The Next Level

The Bulwark

Sarah Longwell, Tim Miller, and Jonathan V. Last bring their signature political insight and banter to the masses in The Next Level podcast. Tune in to hear them discuss the news of the week, break down campaigns and elections, and wade into pop culture feuds. www.thebulwark.com

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Mar 31, 2023 · 19 min
The (First) Indictment (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Sarah and JVL go deep on the day everyone knew would eventually get here. Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here: https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 29, 2023 · 51 min
A Mass Shooting in the Center of the Culture War
In the wake of the latest mass shooting in Nashville, the gang breaks down where the country stands when it comes to protecting our children from gun violence. They discuss whether the Republican Party has given up attempting to find an alternative solution to gun control, as well as the culture war fallout from the potential gender identity of the shooter. Plus, Donald Trump's insane rally in Waco, Texas shows how insane he is, but also what a force he continues to be. Can Ron DeSantis continue to sidestep a full on confrontation with the Donfather? Chris Christie seems like he maybe be up for that fight, but not all the hosts are convinced he's actually turned a corner. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 26, 2023 · 55 min
A Republican Party That Is So Toxic (with Jane Lynch)
The spectacular Jane Lynch (Glee, Party Down) joins Tim and Sarah this week, and turns out she's a huge fan of Never Trumpers! They discuss Donald Trump's indictment, Hollywood, cancel culture, and of course, gay stuff. If you've ever wanted to know if Sue Sylvester would support Trump or Ron DeSantis, you won't want to miss this episode! Plus, Tim and Sarah give their updated thoughts on Florida’s escalation of its “Don’t Say Gay Bill.” Watch the gang record this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kc5vWgbWgRQ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 24, 2023 · 22 min
Meet Beta Ron (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Sarah and JVL talk about Ron DeSantis’s not-really-a-pivot on Ukraine, what it says about his campaign, and what we’re learning about him as a political commodity. Also: Why do the anti-antis hate the Never Trumpers above all others? Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here: https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 22, 2023 · 44 min
Stormy Days Are Here For Him
Donald Trump's indictment seems inevitable, but how long it will take before an arrest actually happens is anyone's guess. Regardless, Ron DeSantis has taken his first slight swing at his would-be rival, but he's just using Marco Rubio's failed 2016 playbook. Watch the gang record this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8Fi-ikGsBw Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 19, 2023 · 51 min
Reminder: It's All Nonsense (with Rep. Colin Allred)
Tim and JVL welcome Rep. Colin Allred to the Sunday show to discuss Rep. Jim Jordan’s bogus Weaponization of the Federal Government committee, his potential challenge to Sen. Ted Cruz, and his journey to the Tennessee Titans as an undrafted football player. Plus, how do you pronounce DeSantis? Tim and JVL debate, as even Meatball Ron doesn’t seem to know. Watch the gang record this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hQ3DcU3ROds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 17, 2023 · 20 min
What Will Fox Do About Trump vs. DeSantis (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Need an extra dose of JVL and Sarah in your week? Take a listen to this clip from today's The Secret Podcast and subscribe to Bulwark+ to hear new episodes every Friday! Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here: https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 15, 2023 · 48 min
So You Want To Be A Menace?
DeSantis says Ukraine's security is not a priority for the U.S., and (some) GOP politicians are pushing back. How long will it last? And why doesn't Trump get the same criticisms? Plus, Fox News blames Silicon Valley Bank's "wokeness" for it failure, and the TNL hosts have some choice words for them. Watch the gang record this episode live here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcPGCSZa44g Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 12, 2023 · 48 min
This Is Our Origin Story (with Adam Brody)
A new adventure begins for the TNL gang with our new Sunday show! Catch Tim and either JVL or Sarah interview all sorts of guests every Sunday night!The show welcomes actor Adam Brody (The OC, Fleishman Is in Trouble) to discuss his entry into political discourse, his career in Hollywood, and his new movie "Shazam! Fury of the Gods," in theaters March 17th!Watch the gang record this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zETbAN_KEMk Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 10, 2023 · 11 min
Florida Man vs. Florida Man (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)
Need an extra dose of JVL and Sarah in your week? Take a listen to this clip from today's The Secret Podcast and subscribe to Bulwark+ to hear new episodes every Friday! Check out all The Secret Podcast episodes here: https://thesecretpodcast.thebulwark.com/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 9, 2023 · 48 min
Tucker & Donald, Lying On TV, H-A-T-E Passionately! (with Amanda Carpenter)
Amanda Carpenter subs in for Sarah to help the boys chastise Tucker Carlson, Kevin McCarthy, Elon Musk and Fox News for their irrespnsible handling of Jan. 6. Plus, a stunning takedown of No Labels potentially spoiling the 2024 election with third party candidates, and a Tim rant on Andrew Sullivan accusing The Bulwark of wanting Trump to beat DeSantis. Watch the gang record this episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-snexk8zoU And tune in for TNL's new Sunday night show! Featuring a new guest every week! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Mar 1, 2023 · 41 min
Trumpy With A Chance Of Meatball Ron
Tim shares his experience following Ron DeSantis throughout Florida. Plus, is the crime wave to blame for Lori Lightfoot getting the ax in Chicago? And will Tennessee's drag ban hold up against the First Amendment? Watch the gang record the episode here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCpbVRrVbpw Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Feb 22, 2023 · 41 min
Irreconcilable Differences
Everyone's favorite lunatic Marjorie Taylor Greene thinks the U.S. needs a national divorce. She's an expert on the subject. Plus, Biden's trip to Ukraine on Presidents' Day should be a moment of unity, but MAGA shills like Ron DeSantis are breeding disunity when we most need it. This episode of The Next Level was recording on February 21, 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Feb 15, 2023 · 52 min
It's Just A Sweet Sweet Fantasy Haley
Nikki Haley launches her bid for the presidency and she's the perfect candidate ... for 2015. Are her presidential ambitions pure fantasy? Plus, Elon Musk blows a fuse over Biden's more popular tweet, as Republicans continue losing their minds over Chinese balloons. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Feb 8, 2023 · 50 min
State of the Sausage Maker
Sarah, Tim and JVL break down Biden's State of the Union speech. Consensus? The president did what he does best! Watch the gang record each episode of The Next Level on our official YouTube channel! Make sure to like and subscribe! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Feb 3, 2023 · 40 min
Normie Kabuki Theatre
Larry Hogan walks back comments he'd support Trump if he was the GOP's 2024 nominee, while Chris Sununu doubles down. Plus, Nikki Haley's narrow path to victory and the hurdles facing the police reform debate. This episode of The Next Level was recorded on February 2, 2023. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jan 25, 2023 · 59 min
No B.S—Live From Seattle
The gang finish their road trip with a live show in Seattle this weekend with columnist Dan Savage! Here's what went down! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jan 21, 2023 · 16 min
Bonus: No B.S—Live From LA - Part 1 (PREVIEW)
The gang hit the road this week with a live show from the Avalon Hollywood. To listen to the entire show go to The Next Level at https://thenextlevel.thebulwark.com/p/no-bs-live-la#details. Part two of the show features our guest, Jon Favreau, host of the Pod Save America podcast. Listen here. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jan 21, 2023 · 13 min
Bonus: No B.S—Live From LA - Part 2 (PREVIEW)
This is part two of our Jan. 19 live show from the Avalon Hollywood with special guest Jon Favreau, former Obama speechwriter and host of Pod Save American. To listen to the entire show go to The Next Level at https://thenextlevel.thebulwark.com/p/bonus-live-from-la-pt-2#details Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Jan 18, 2023 · 50 min
Gas Stove: A Knives Out Controversy
Sonny Bunch joins Tim and JVL to talk Republican fury over suggestions to ban gas stoves. Plus, debates on the trajectory of social media and Ron DeSantis’ new education policy. Join the gang from The Next Level in Hollywood on January 19 and in Seattle on January 21. Learn more here: TheBulwark.com/events Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

The Next Level

The (First) Indictment (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)

A Mass Shooting in the Center of the Culture War

A Republican Party That Is So Toxic (with Jane Lynch)

Meet Beta Ron (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)

Stormy Days Are Here For Him

Reminder: It's All Nonsense (with Rep. Colin Allred)

What Will Fox Do About Trump vs. DeSantis (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)

So You Want To Be A Menace?

This Is Our Origin Story (with Adam Brody)

Florida Man vs. Florida Man (The Secret Podcast PREVIEW)

Tucker & Donald, Lying On TV, H-A-T-E Passionately! (with Amanda Carpenter)

Trumpy With A Chance Of Meatball Ron

Irreconcilable Differences

It's Just A Sweet Sweet Fantasy Haley

State of the Sausage Maker

Normie Kabuki Theatre

No B.S—Live From Seattle

Bonus: No B.S—Live From LA - Part 1 (PREVIEW)

Bonus: No B.S—Live From LA - Part 2 (PREVIEW)

Gas Stove: A Knives Out Controversy