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The Learning Scientists Podcast

Learning Scientists

A podcast for teachers, students, and parents about evidence based practice and learning.

  • 99 episodes
  • Updated July 16

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  • July 16 · 8 min

    Episode 99: How Should Students Use (And Not Use) Flashcards?

    Episode 99: How Should Students Use (And Not Use) Flashcards? Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 99, Megan talks about flashcards. Flashcards are a tool like anything else; they can be used to promote effective learning strategies, and also used in ways that are not so effective. This brief episode is designed to help students understand the best ways to use flashcards, and ways to avoid using flashcards. Want to read more about flashcards and retrieval practice? Check out the posts below. Be Your Own Teacher: How to Study with Flashcards: https://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2016/2/20-1 Learning with Flashcards: https://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2023/2/3-1 How to use Retrieval Practice: https://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2016/6/23-1 The 5-Sided Flashcard: https://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2019/4/4-1 A Student's Perspective on the Use and Helpfulness of Retrieval Practice: https://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2016/7/19-1 Leveraging AI in a Research-Driven Way: Augmenting Feedback During Spaced Retrieval Practice Using ChatGPT: https://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2023/10/19-1 Hi I'm Dr. Megan Sumeracki, and I want to talk a little bit about flashcards. I know flashcards can be a really popular way for students to study and they really can be a great tool as long as they're used to promote effective learning strategies. It's not that flashcards are inherently good or bad, it's that they can be used in lots of different ways and some of those ways promote effective learning strategies while some of those ways don't. It's a tool like anything else and the tool can be used well and not so well. So, with flashcards one thing to keep in mind is that making the flashcards might not be the most effective way to study. Sometimes students will tell me that making the flashcards is the part that's really important for them. That they like taking their index cards and copying content onto the flashcards. Copying our notes or copying content isn't necessarily a great way to, to learn the information in the long run. If a student is having to think about what to include and what not to include and how the different concepts are related to one another; as they're thinking about what to put on those cards, that might be an effective an effective exercise. But just copying the content isn't really beneficial in and of itself. And so if you have access to somebody else’s cards you don’t need to worry about it. Making the flashcards themselves isn’t particularly helpful unless it forces you to think about what’s important and what’s not important and forces you to kind of organize the information. So however you end up with your flashcards, once you actually have them, you want to use them to practice retrieval. Retrieval practice is all about bringing information to mind from your memory. And so if you take an index card, and let’s say you have a term on one side and a definition on the other side, if what you’re doing is looking at the term and thinking, hmmm, that seems familiar and then flipping it over and reading the other side of the card, that’s not retrieval practice. That’s just repeated reading, but with a flashcard. What you really want to do is force yourself to bring the information to mind from memory. So if you’ve got index cards, flashcards with terms and definitions, you wanna look at the term and see if you can put the definition into your own words. Say it out loud. To a friend, or a pet, or just the wall. Or even take a blank sheet of paper and write out what you can remember about the term based on, on the term that you have on the index card. You’re basically using the index card as a cue. That’s practicing retrieval. And then, you can flip the card and take a look and see what you got right and what you might need to work on more. But in this way you’re forcing yourself to try to bring the information to mind from memory before giving yourself feedback. And it’s okay if you don’t remember everything, or even if you don’t remember anything right away. Trying to practice retrieval before taking a look will make that that extra study opportunity, that looking, the feedback, more beneficial. And you can work your way up to being able to explain the information from your own memory. Now, in addition, it’s not a great idea to use flashcards just to memorize terms and definitions. If that’s all you need to know, if you really do just need to be able to recite the definition of a term then this way of using flashcards with terms and definitions can be great. But a lot of times what we’re trying to do is learn what a term or what a concept is and then also understand. Understand how it can be used in a lot of different situations. Understand how it’s similar to other concepts. Understand how it’s different from other concepts. And you can use flashcards for this higher order more meaningful learning as well. You just have to be really intentional about it. And so one thing you might do is forget about the definitions on the other side. Just grab two flashcards at random with two different concepts on those cards. And from your memory, do the best you can to explain what each one is, in your own words. So not reciting the definition but just explaining what it is on your own. And then, think of all the ways those concepts are similar, and think of all the ways those concepts are different. Sometimes you might randomly grab two concepts that are really, really similar to one another but they have one key difference. And knowing what that key difference is helps you discriminate between those two concepts. Sometimes you might grab two concepts that seem completely unrelated to one another, and the differences are huge. But there might be one way that they’re similar. Or at least you can identify what way they both fit into some organizational structure. So, for example, I teach research methods. And if I’m teaching the students about independent and dependent variables. They’re not the same thing, but they are similar. They’re both variables within an experiment. One of them is manipulated within an experiment; the other one is measured. And knowing what the key difference is, is really important. There might be two concepts that are really different from one another. Like … knowing what the institutional review board is and, gosh, and then it’s going to be hard in research methods to even come up with something that’s totally different… But knowing what the institutional review board is and maybe also knowing what a dependent variable is. And those things are pretty different. They’re both research methods, but the institutional review board is all about examining ethics of an experiment or studies and looking over what a researcher is planning to do to make sure that we are protecting the participants in the study. Whereas a dependent variable is, within an experiment, the variable that is being measured. But of course there is a relationship between them. So, I might describe what those two things are, and say they’re really different. One is a variable and one is an ethical body. But the similarity, what makes them, what makes them linked up is that an institutional review board is going to look at a researchers' proposed dependent variables to make sure that the types of questions that the participants are being asked or the types of things that the researcher is asking them to do feels, feels safe. And so in that way they’re somewhat similar. And so it’s okay if you grab two concepts that seem completely unrelated because you’re learning them together for a reason. And if you can figure out what the key the key similarity is, the reason they’re both in the same organizational structure, that’s going to help you. And so, in this way, you can use retrieval practice not just for memorizing but also for this sort of higher order more meaningful learning. And learning and being able to apply the information in the long run, which often is the goal in education or the classes that we’re taking. We want to pass our classes but we also want to know the information and be able to use it in future classes and in life or our careers in the future. So, I'm going to go ahead and link to a couple of blog posts that describe effective ways of using flashcards so that if you want to read about this more or learn more about retrieval practice you can.

  • June 4 · 37 min

    Episode 98: Executive Functioning in the Classroom with Sarah Oberle and Mitch Weathers

    Episode 98: Executive Functioning in the Classroom with Sarah Oberle and Mitch Weathers Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 98, Cindy interviews Sarah Oberle and Mitch Weathers, experts in executive functioning. They are authors of a new book: Executive Functions for Every K-3 Classroom: Promoting Self-Regulation for a Strong Start. In this episode, Sarah and Mitch define executive functioning and how it differs from related topics like motivation and working memory. The conversation touches on executive functioning across different grade levels and populations and how to distinguish between more and less evidence-based executive functioning work. During the conversation, Cindy refers to a model of working memory which is described here. To learn more about executive functioning, you can visit any of the links below: 1) https://www.learningscientists.org/blog/2018/1/9-1 2) https://www.learningscientists.org/learning-scientists-podcast/2018/6/20/episode-21-executive-function-development-with-emma-blakey 3) https://www.learningscientists.org/learning-scientists-podcast/2025/7/3/episode-91-executive-functioning-in-special-education-with-sean-mccormick

  • May 7 · 8 min

    Episode 97: Thinking Is Hard

    Episode 97: Thinking Is Hard Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 97, Althea reads her blog post Thinking is Hard.

  • Dec 18, 2025 · 34 min

    Episode 95: Supporting Neurodivergent Kids and Adults with Emily Kircher-Morris

    Episode 95: Supporting Neurodivergent Kids and Adults with Emily Kircher-Morris Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 95, Cindy talks with Emily Kircher-Morris, M.A., M.Ed., LPC, a licensed professional counselor specializing in supporting neurodivergent kids and adults (and their families). Emily hosts the popular Neurodiversity Podcast and had authored multiple books, including Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools: Transforming Practices So All Students Feel Accepted and Supported. Cindy and Emily discuss the definition of neurodiversity, the complex legal process of getting accommodations for students, and tips and tricks for educators to recognize and meet the needs of neurodivergent students. In the episode, Emily references several research articles and resources, listed below. Rinn, A. (2021). Social, emotional, and psychosocial development of gifted and talented individuals. Routledge. Butera, C., Ring, P., Sideris, J., Jayashankar, A., Kilroy, E., Harrison, L., ... & Aziz‐Zadeh, L. (2020). Impact of sensory processing on school performance outcomes in high functioning individuals with autism spectrum disorder. Mind, Brain, and Education, 14(3), 243-254. SPACE Training Podcast Episode

  • Oct 30, 2025 · 7 min

    Episode 94: Retrieval Practice in the Health Professions

    Episode 94: Retrieval Practice in the Health Professions Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 94, Althea reads her blog post Retrieval Practice in the Health Professions.

  • Sep 25, 2025 · 38 min

    Episode 93: Compassion Fatigue in Educators with Dr Chiara Horlin

    Episode 93: Compassion Fatigue in Educators with Dr Chiara Horlin Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 93, Carolina chats with Dr Chiara Horlin, a Senior Lecturer in Psychology in the School of Psychology and Neuroscience at the University of Glasgow, about wellbeing in educators and specifically about a phenomenon called ‘compassion fatigue’. Compassion fatigue is the psychological, emotional, and physical strain of consistently emphasizing with people in distress when supporting them. A usual scenario could be educators providing pastoral care to their students and engaging in constant empathic engagement. In this episode, we discuss how compassion fatigue manifests in different educational sectors, explore the risk factors, the personal and professional impact, and highlight ways to manage compassion fatigue. Chiara has conducted studies on this topic and you can read them here.

  • Aug 14, 2025 · 38 min

    Episode 92: Science Communication with Leonardo Feletto

    Episode 92: Science Communication with Leonardo Feletto Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 92, Althea talks with Leonardo Feletto. Leo has a PhD in Molecular Biology and is now a science teacher. But most important for this particular episode, Leo is a science communicator. Below is a link to the peer-reviewed paper about engaging students in science communication (and, the full PDF is freely accessible!): Kiessling, T., Christina, C., Katrin, K., Enzingmüller, C., Kremer, K., Katrin, K., Dittmann, S., Schulenburg, H., & Parchmann, I (2025). How can we enable school students to learn and participate in science engagement initiatives? Roles and tasks of enablers. Journal of Science Communication, 24(4), N02. https://doi.org/10.22323/148020250716165543

  • Jul 3, 2025 · 37 min

    Episode 91: Executive Functioning in Special Education with Sean McCormick

    Episode 91: Executive Functioning in Special Education with Sean McCormick Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 91, Cindy talks with Sean McCormick, founder and Executive Director at EF Specialists. They discuss the research on executive functioning training, especially for neurodiverse students, and the degree to which it transfers to everyday life. In the episode, they mention several research studies, including: Diamond, A. (2013). Executive functions. Annual Review of Psychology, 64(1), 135-168. https://doi.org/10.1146/annurev-psych-113011-143750 Blair, C., & Razza, R. P. (2007). Relating effortful control, executive function, and false belief understanding to emerging math and literacy ability in kindergarten. Child Development, 78(2), 647-663. https://doi.org/10.1111/j.1467-8624.2007.01019.x Melby-Lervåg, M., & Hulme, C. (2013). Is working memory training effective? A meta-analytic review. Developmental Psychology, 49(2), 270. https://doi.org/10.1037/a0028228 For free resources, please visit efspecialists.com.

  • May 22, 2025 · 8 min

    Episode 90: Dual Coding-Can There Be Too Much of a Good Thing?

    Episode 90: Dual Coding-Can There Be Too Much of a Good Thing? Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 90, Megan reads her blog post Dual Coding: Can There be too Much of a Good Thing?

  • Apr 10, 2025 · 8 min

    Episode 89: Who Should Create Study plans?

    Episode 89: Who Should Create Study plans? Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: For some of our podcast episodes, we are going to read blog posts, audiobook style. This allows listeners to access the written material from the blog in audio form, which we imagine may help some who don’t have much time for reading (but DO have time to listen in the car). It also allows us to bring some of our most interesting, important, and/or popular posts back into the spotlight. Today’s episode is our first of this type! In Episode 89, Carolina reads her blog post Who should Create Study Plans?

  • Feb 27, 2025 · 22 min

    Episode 88: Quick Podcast Updates and a Discussion About Multitasking

    Episode 88: Quick Podcast Updates and a Discussion About Multitasking Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 88, Megan, Cindy, Carolina, and Althea talk about the new direction of the Learning Scientists Podcast, and about multitasking! We started this podcast a number of years ago, and over time the podcast has morphed and changed. We want to be really intentional about the podcast. To that end, we got together and talked about what we love about the podcast, things we want to do better, and some new ways to spread the science of learning to move people. We’re going to have three types of podcast episodes: Conversations with students and/or educators about their experiences with the science of learning. With these episodes, we’re really making space for our listeners to hear from others about their experiences while teaching and learning. Of course, in our conversations, we’ll still be talking about the science behind the concepts we’re talking about. These episodes can allow listeners to gain new perspectives, and can even serve as concrete examples of how the science of learning can be applied in various settings. Bite-size research episodes. In these episodes, we’ll focus on peer-reviewed research. One or a few of us will talk through a research paper to bring the science to you, wherever you listen. These episodes may also include guests to talk about their peer-reviewed research on learning, or the research surrounding their area of expertise. Audio-book versions of our blog posts. We know that some people prefer (or must, because of time constraints) listen rather than read. We have hundreds of great blog posts, and we want to bring that content to even more people. So, for some episodes, we will read our blog to create another format for that information to be shared. If you’re interested in being a guest on our podcast, you can send us a pitch! Please fill out this form. If you’re an educator or student wanting to talk about your personal experiences with the science of learning, we especially want to encourage you to fill it out. Let us know that you’re a student/educator, and how you use the science of learning in your own teaching/learning. We also talked about multitasking on the podcast, because we know that so many people multitask while listening (in the car, in the shower, while doing dishes, etc.). We mentioned the Whodunnit video on the episode. You can watch the Whodunnit video here. Below are some additional resources about mutlitasking from our blog: Multitasking and Selective Attention by Althea Need Kaminske Engagement and Interest by Althea Need Kaminske New Findings Inform the Laptop versus Longhand Note-Taking Debate by Carolina Kuepper-Tetzel Focus Tips for Students: How to Effectively Ignore Irrelevant Information, a guest post by Erin Miller

  • Jan 16, 2025 · 37 min

    Episode 87: Executive Functioning Skills with Mitch Weathers

    Episode 87: Executive Functioning Skills with Mitch Weathers Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 87, Cindy chats with Mitch Weathers, a veteran teacher and Founder and CEO of Organized Binder. Mitch discusses what exactly is meant by executive functioning, his own learning struggles as a student, and his many projects aimed at improving students’ executive functioning skills including his recently released book, Executive Functions for Every Classroom: Creating Safe and Equitable Learning Environments.

  • Nov 7, 2024 · 42 min

    Episode 86: EdTech and AI with Jared Cooney Horvath (Recorded Live from ResearchED)

    Episode 86: EdTech and AI with Jared Cooney Horvath (Recorded Live from ResearchED) Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In episode 86, Cindy talks with Dr. Jared Cooney Horvath, neuroscientist, educator, and author of Stop Talking, Start Influencing: 12 Insights from Brain Science to Make Your Message Stick. In this episode, Jared reviews some of the history of technological advancements, how technology has impacted learning, and shares some of his ideas for how artificial intelligence may impact both learning and society moving forward. Jared is open to hearing your thoughts about the episode, which you can share by clicking here. This episode was recorded in front of a live audience at a researchED event in Wilmington, DE (October, 2024).

  • Sep 12, 2024 · 28 min

    Episode 85: Digital Literacy with Natalia Kucirkova

    Episode 85: Digital Literacy with Natalia Kucirkova Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 85, Megan talks with Natalia Kucirkova, PhD, a Professor of Early Childhood and Development at the University of Stavanger in Norway and Professor of Reading and Children’s Development at The Open University, UK. Natalia leads a network of learning scientists, WiKIT, who support diverse EdTech organizations to be more evidence-based and aligned with the science of learning. She is author of the open-access book, How and Why to Read and Create Children’s Digital Books: A Guide for Primary Practitioners and The Future of the Self: understanding Personalization in Childhood and Beyond. Read more about Natalia and the impact of EdTech here.

  • Aug 1, 2024 · 50 min

    Episode 84: An Evidence - Based Approach to Teaching Reading and Writing – An Interview with Dominic Wyse and Charlotte Hacking

    Episode 84: An Evidence - Based Approach to Teaching Reading and Writing – An Interview with Dominic Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 84, Carolina talks to Dominic Wyse and Charlotte Hacking; the authors of the brand-new book “The Balancing Act: An Evidence-Based Approach to Teaching Phonics, Reading and Writing”. Together they explore the chapters of the book that takes a research-informed approach to teaching pupils how to read and write. The book also features scaffolding for teaching practice including complete lesson plans that can be used in the classroom right away! They also discuss what parents can do to support reading and writing skills in their children. The episode concludes with a range of practical tips. Further resources for this episode: Get the book: “The Balancing Act: An Evidence-Based Approach to Teaching Phonics, Reading and Writing” by Dominic Wyse and Charlotte Hacking. Book press release: “Rigid Approach to Teaching Phonics is ‘Joyless’ and is Failing Children, Experts Warn” Open access paper: “Decoding, reading and writing: the double helix theory of teaching” by Dominic Wyse and Charlotte Hacking The Conversation: “Isolated phonics lessons aren’t working: Here’s a better way to teach young children to read and write” by Dominic Wyse The Guardian view on English lessons: Make classrooms more creative again (Editorial) Centre for Literacy in Primary Education (CLPE): The books section on this website comes with concrete book suggestions to use in primary classrooms.

  • Jun 20, 2024 · 21 min

    Episode 83: An Interview with We Do It For the Culture founder Jamila Sams

    Episode 83: An Interview with We Do It For the Culture founder Jamila Sams Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 83, Althea interviews Jamila Sams, CEO and founder of We Do It For the Culture (TM), a culturally responsive social emotional learning curriculum rooted in Hip-Hop culture for middle and high school students. Jamila discusses the five components of social-emotional learning, hip-hop, and shares examples of how the curriculum has connected with students. To learn more go to https://wedoit4theculture.com/

  • Mar 28, 2024 · 21 min

    Episode 81: STP Talk -- Science Communication about Retrieval Practice

    Episode 81: STP Talk -- Science Communication about Retrieval Practice Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 81, Megan, Cindy, Carolina, and Althea walk through their Society for the Teaching of Psychology (STP) Annual Conference on Teaching (ACT) talk! The episode was recorded in October 2023 when all four Learning Scientists were together in Portland, Oregon for the conference. After they gave their formal talk, they recorded their talk in one of their hotel rooms to reach more people. Related to this talk, they recently published a paper in Educational Psychology Review paper on science communication about retrieval practice. The paper is geared toward researchers, calling for research on effective science communication efforts. Sumeracki, M. A., Nebel, C. L., Kaminske, A. N., & Kuepper-Tetzel, C. E. (2024). Turning roadblocks into speed bumps: A call for implementation reform in science communication about retrieval practice. Educational Psychology Review, 36, 22. https://doi.org/10.1007/s10648-024-09854-5

  • Feb 15, 2024 · 23 min

    Episode 80: An Interview with Kareem Farah from The Modern Classrooms Project

    Episode 80: An Interview with Kareem Farah from The Modern Classrooms Project Learning Scientists This episode was funded by listeners like you. For more details on how to help support our podcast and gain access to exclusive content, please see our Patreon page. Show Notes: In Episode 80, Cindy interviews Kareem Farah, CEO and co-founder of the Modern Classrooms Project. To access their free course go to: http://learn.modernclassrooms.org/.