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Ian Luckett

The IT Experts Podcast with Ian Luckett, is designed to help ambitious IT/MSP business owners build a profitable tech business.

In this show you will learn the complete tried and tested strategies that are working today as Ian helps techie business owners in the IT / MSP community on a daily basis.

The content of this Podcast is a blend of expert advice and Interviews with some of the most successful people in the industry, offering massive value and a wise range of topics from his MSP profit Builder System.

Whether his guests are experts from large enterprises, established IT/MSP businesses, serial entrepreneurs, or world class techies, they all have great stories and content to share.

So, if you are preparing your IT/MSP business for growth, then we will help by sharing what IS and what ISN'T working in business right now.

Our outcome for you listening to this podcast is that we help you to spend quality time working ON your business rather than being consumed IN it!

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Sunday · 36 min
EP300 - 300 Episodes later, What We Have Learnt with Ian Luckett & Stuart Warwick
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, Stuart and I mark a genuine milestone, our 300th episode, and 300 episodes later we sit down to share what we have learnt across seven years and every one of those conversations. This is not a tidy list of tips. It is a set of honest reflections on what has changed, what has stayed true, and what we would tell our younger selves if we could. We start with the belief that has shifted the most for Stuart. Every MSP owner knows they need a plan, and that has never changed. What has changed is the recognition that most owners already know what to do. The real gap is accountability, having someone or something that holds you to the actions you already know you need to take. Overwhelm shows up more than almost anything else in our coaching sessions, and it nearly always comes from a blurry list of a hundred things rather than a lack of knowledge. 300 episodes later, my own thinking has shifted too, particularly around vision, mission and values. I once believed that work was reserved for bigger businesses with bigger budgets. Seven years on, I have watched smaller MSPs transform once they get genuine clarity on who they are, who they help and why. That clarity becomes the foundation the rest of the plan sits on. Some lessons have stayed constant the whole way through. Stuart is firm that MSPs do not need more leads, they need a better business to bring those leads into. Structure, people, process and culture are the legs of the stool, and if any of them are weak the business cannot carry the weight of growth. On my side, the advice that remains just as true today is that MSPs must understand their target market properly. Too many businesses try to serve everybody, end up competing on price, and repeat the same generic messaging as every other provider in the channel. We also talk candidly about the mistake we see repeated most often, waiting for a crisis before making a change. Stuart shares how businesses often join us shortly before losing a major client, and how that shift from growth thinking to survival thinking can set a business back for months. I share a similar pattern, where owners have tried a marketing agency, a salesperson or a lead generation service without first understanding their own model, their own audience and their own value. Looking ahead, Stuart believes the next three years demand stronger processes, documentation and governance, so that AI can be layered onto a business that is genuinely ready for it. I focus on people, and the importance of bringing in younger, more driven talent who can push a business forward rather than simply maintaining what already exists. Being brave enough to shake up a settled team matters too. Finally, we reflect on the lessons we each wish we had understood sooner. For me, it is the power of a properly connected operating model, one that content, pricing, packaging and account management all hang off, rather than a model that looks good but lacks a true, connected story. Stuart reminds us that this connected story is what allows a business to articulate its value to employees, prospects and existing clients alike. If you are somewhere between four hundred thousand and nine hundred thousand pounds in turnover and feel stuck, this episode will resonate. Structure, accountability and a genuine understanding of your value are the threads that run through everything we have learnt, 300 episodes later. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
August 23 · 30 min
EP299 - Why Most MSPs Stay Stuck – The Cost of Waiting, Overthinking and Not Taking Action with Neil Shaw and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I sit down with Neil Shaw to unpack why most MSPs stay stuck, and what it really takes to build lasting momentum after years of plodding along. Neil spent over thirty years in the IT industry, built and exited his own MSP, and now helps other owners avoid the traps he fell into himself. We start by exploring what stuck actually looks like. It rarely means rock bottom. More often it is an owner who has found a level of success and settled there, surrounded by choice paralysis, too many options, and no clear next step. This is one of the clearest reasons why most MSPs stay stuck, they default to what they know rather than making a deliberate decision to move forward. We talk about the danger of referral success. When new business keeps arriving without effort, there is little pressure to build proper marketing or sales processes, which quietly reinforces why most MSPs stay stuck for years longer than they need to. Neil shares how he and his business partner stripped their own business back to basics, figuring out exactly what was missing before hiring ahead of need rather than waiting until they were creaking under pressure. We spend real time on letting go, and Neil is candid about how hard this is for techie owners who are used to doing everything themselves. His advice is simple and powerful. Look at the tasks that belong to old you rather than business owner you, and find the right person to take them on, even if they only reach eighty percent of your standard to begin with. Shiny object syndrome comes up too, particularly with the flood of AI tools now aimed at MSPs. Neil's advice cuts through the noise. Before buying anything new, work out what would break if you were away for a day, a week, or a month, then fix those things first. We also get into some of the most common regrets Neil has seen, firing bad clients too late, waiting too long to raise prices, and holding onto delivery work that should have been handed off years earlier. This theme of avoidable delay runs right through why most MSPs stay stuck, and Neil is refreshingly direct about the fact that most owners already know what needs to change, they simply have not made the decision yet. One of the most practical moments comes when Neil walks through his own client matrix, ranking accounts by spend and by how much hassle they cause, then working through the list from least favourite upwards. It is a simple, repeatable way to raise prices with confidence and free up capacity for the clients who deserve it. We also talk about trust, and how building a team who can think for themselves, rather than constantly asking permission, is one of the biggest unlocks for any owner trying to step back from day to day delivery. Towards the end we shift to momentum itself. Motivation fades fast once real life gets in the way, so Neil talks about the value of an accountability partner, someone to share your roadmap with and lean on when the energy dips. His rapid fire answers say it all, the best decision he ever delayed was getting rid of a bad client, and the worst was not raising prices sooner. If you recognise any of this in your own MSP, the message from this episode is clear. Understanding why most MSPs stay stuck is the first step, and taking one small, imperfect action this week is the one that actually moves you forward. You can find Neil Shaw through his LinkedIn and website. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
August 16 · 22 min
EP298 - Why Your Summer Holiday is the Ultimate MSP Leadership Test with Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I explain why your summer holiday is the ultimate MSP leadership test. It is that time of year again, when the sun is out, the diary clears a little, and MSP owners either head off on holiday or spend the whole time thinking about it. This episode is not really about holidays at all. It is about what happens to your business when you step away from it, and what that reveals about the leadership you have built. I ask a simple question early on. Can you truly switch off when you go away, or are you still checking emails by the pool and worrying about what is happening back at the office? I am honest about my own habits here. I love what I do, and I like to use my holidays as strategic thinking time, scribbling ideas on a notepad rather than fully disconnecting. That said, there is a big difference between staying connected because you enjoy it and staying connected because the business cannot function without you. That difference is exactly what makes your summer break the ultimate MSP leadership test. I talk through the common fears that come up for owners when they consider stepping away. My clients need me. My team will not cope. Something important might come in and I am the only one who can deal with it. Every single one of these is a leadership issue rather than a holiday issue. If clients still need you directly, something is broken in your delegation and your SOPs. If your team cannot function for a few days, that points to gaps in training, trust, and clarity around roles. I share how Stuart and I have spent the last couple of years deliberately building the business so that when one of us is away, the team steps up rather than the other one having to fill the gap. Everybody knows their role, their boundaries, and what good, great, and not so great look like. That structure is what allows the business to keep moving, and it is a great example of passing your own MSP leadership test in practice. I set out five things to check before, during, or after your holiday. Step away from the business to take stock, rating yourself honestly against your numbers, your team, and your lead generation. Reflect on where you are at and what would genuinely make you happier with the performance of the business. Reset your thinking, remembering that you become the average of the people you spend time with, and that a good book or a stretch conversation can shift your perspective. Reconnect with your vision, your values, and what you actually want your life and your business to look like. Finally, give your team permission to step up, setting clear expectations so they can make decisions confidently within defined boundaries. I also touch on trust, asking listeners to rate how much trust they place in their team and to be honest about what is holding that back. Great leaders do not prove their value by being indispensable. They prove it by making everyone around them better, so the business keeps rowing in the same direction whether the owner is present or not. The heart of this MSP leadership test is one honest question. If you disappeared for two weeks with no contact at all, what would happen to your business? Whatever your answer is becomes your next leadership project. Your holiday is not the problem. It is the audit that shows you exactly where your business still depends on you, and exactly where a stronger, more valuable, more scalable MSP is waiting to be built. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
August 9 · 34 min
EP297 - How to Use Vendor MDF for MSPs so Everyone Wins with Gemma Telford and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I sit down with Gemma Telford from the Archer Agency to unpack one of the most underused resources available to growing MSPs, vendor Marketing Development Funds, or MDF. With two decades of experience across tech marketing, including roles at Ingram Micro, Sage and Palo Alto Networks, Gemma Telford brings a rare view from both sides of the channel, having worked with vendors, distributors and partners alike. We open with a wider discussion on why so many MSP owners struggle to embrace marketing in the first place. Many of us built our businesses on technical strength rather than promotional confidence, and Gemma and I agree that the answer often lies in reframing marketing as simply clear messaging about how you help people, rather than something big or intimidating. Bringing in dedicated marketing support, rather than expecting founders or inexperienced hires to carry the whole function, is one of the most reliable paths to sustainable growth. From there, we move into the heart of the episode, MDF itself. Gemma Telford explains that marketing development funds sit within a vendor's budget specifically to help partners sell more of their products and services. Despite the funds being widely available, research referenced in the episode suggests that around sixty percent of MDF goes unused every quarter. The reasons are practical rather than mysterious. Vendors often allocate funding to whoever asks loudest, application processes can be convoluted, and many MSPs simply are not aware the money exists or how to access it. A significant part of our conversation focuses on the mismatch between vendor expectations and MSP realities. Vendors frequently want to see leads or return on investment within a single quarter, which rarely reflects how MSP sales cycles actually work. Gemma Telford shares an encouraging example of an ERP vendor taking a longer-term view, building multiyear plans with partners and trusting that results will follow, even if not immediately. This kind of collaborative thinking, she suggests, is exactly what more vendors need to adopt. Practical advice runs throughout the episode. Rather than approaching every vendor at once, Gemma recommends we choose one vendor to start with, ideally one connected to a business goal such as growth in a particular sector or vertical. From there, building a genuine plan, complete with revenue targets and a proposed timeline, gives vendors something concrete to support rather than a vague request for cash. Case studies and proof points are also flagged as powerful tools, since vendors are always seeking evidence that their products deliver real results for real customers. We also touch on the importance of relationships within the channel. Strong connections with account managers and channel teams can open doors that generic outreach never will, and we both agree that treating vendor partnerships as a genuine collaboration, rather than a transactional exchange, tends to produce the best long-term outcomes. Towards the end of the episode, Gemma Telford sets out three changes that would make MDF programmes work better for everyone. Vendors moving away from rigid quarterly ROI expectations, supporting partners to build their own plans rather than being overly prescriptive, and simplifying the application process so partners are not discouraged before they even begin. For any MSP wondering where to start, my advice is refreshingly simple, get a plan in place, understand your specialisms and messaging, and proactively approach your vendors rather than waiting to be noticed. This episode is a valuable listen for any MSP owner who has heard of MDF but never quite understood how to access it, or for those keen to strengthen their vendor relationships and unlock funding that is often sitting untouched. You can connect with Gemma Telford on LinkedIn or find out more about her work at the Archer Agency. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
August 2 · 18 min
EP296 - Beyond the Money, What Wealth Really Means for MSP Business Owners with Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I take a step back from the usual growth tactics and invite you into a conversation about what wealth really means for MSP owners. We are past the midpoint of 2026, and rather than waiting until year end to reflect, I wanted to offer a checkup from the neck up right now, while there is still time to make the second half count. I talk through the MSP journey many of us recognise. You start in survive, move into drive, then into thrive, and eventually reach arrive, the point where the business works for you rather than the other way round. Along that journey, it is easy to lose sight of your original why. You get caught up in the grind, in the day to day running of the business, and somewhere along the line the reason you started fades into the background. This episode is my attempt to help you reconnect with it, because understanding what wealth really means to you personally changes everything about how you build and run your MSP. I share why Stuart and I built The MSP Growth Hub the way we did. Our own why is rooted in family, in supporting people with additional needs, and in using the business as an enabler for something much bigger than turnover or profit margin. That is the thread that runs through this episode. Profit should be treated as fuel for your vision, not the end goal itself. When you start asking what wealth really means beyond the numbers on a balance sheet, you open the door to a much richer definition of success, one that includes freedom, fulfilment, relationships, and the life you actually want to live outside the business. I cover the danger of decisions driven by fear rather than by vision and values, and how burnout, stress, and anxiety often show up when purpose has quietly disappeared from the picture. I share a simple challenge you can do right now, wherever you are reading or listening from. Revisit your original why. Write down how it has evolved. Bring your team into that conversation. I mention two books that have shaped my own thinking recently, Simon Sinek's Start With Why and Arnold Schwarzenegger's Be Useful, both of which pushed me to think bigger about the supported living homes I want to help build. We also explore the people you surround yourself with. You become the average of the five people you spend the most time with, so if you want a bigger vision for your business and your life, it pays to move towards people who inspire and challenge you rather than those who keep you small. I talk about building reflection into your leadership rhythm, measuring how far you have come rather than only how far you have left to go, and leading with transparency even when others doubt what you are trying to achieve. Ultimately, this episode is an invitation to define what wealth really means to you, in your own words, on your own terms. It might mean more time with family, more freedom to choose how you spend your Fridays, or the ability to give back to your community in a meaningful way. Whatever it looks like for you, the message stays the same. Profit is your fuel. It is not the finish line. I hope this gives you space to reflect and reconnect with your own purpose as an MSP owner. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
July 26 · 30 min
EP295 - How Smashing Down Invisible Ceilings in Your MSP Can Help Your Culture Grow with Yvonne Matzk and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I sit down with Yvonne Matzk to explore a subject I rarely get the chance to talk about on this show, the invisible ceilings that hold back talent, culture, and growth inside our businesses. Yvonne Matzk is the founder of Coachere, a coaching and consulting practice supporting leaders and the next generation of talent in the IT industry, and also the founder of the Channel Community, a free network built to help emerging talent find mentoring in a safe and inclusive environment. I loved hearing the story behind her book, Smashing the Class Ceiling, born from research showing that only nine percent of people working in tech came from a low socioeconomic background. Yvonne Matzk and her fellow founders at the Channel Community realised how many of them had come from working class backgrounds themselves, and decided to raise awareness of this gap by aligning with the Social Mobility Foundation. What started as a podcast grew into a book, designed to showcase people who started from humble beginnings and went on to build genuinely impressive careers. Yvonne Matzk introduces the idea of the class pay gap, a concept she told me she had never heard of until she began this work, despite having lived its effects throughout her own career. She reflects candidly on her early years on a training wage, doing work worth considerably more, and later struggling even as a business owner to ask for what she was worth. She explains that people from working class backgrounds often carry a quiet sense of gratitude that stops them from demanding fair value, while those from more privileged upbringings tend to carry a natural confidence that opens doors more easily. Listening to this, I could see clearly how it creates a hidden pool of talent that most MSPs never think to look for, simply because they keep recruiting from the same familiar places. Yvonne Matzk and I spent time discussing why this matters so much for MSP culture. Hiring people who look, sound, and think alike feels comfortable, yet it quietly limits how a business solves problems and challenges itself to grow. Yvonne Matzk argues that talent is everywhere, while opportunity is not, and I agree that businesses need to actively remove unnecessary barriers such as rigid degree requirements if they want access to that wider pool. She points to research showing that resilience, passion and work ethic predict success far more reliably than qualifications ever could, and these are the traits I encourage every MSP owner to recruit for. We also explored confidence, or as Yvonne Matzk prefers to call it, courage. She describes confidence as a learned behaviour shaped by upbringing and environment rather than something people are simply born with or without. Overcoming that conditioning, she says, starts with recognising fear for what it is and choosing to act anyway. I found this links directly into leadership, where Yvonne Matzk made clear to me that culture always starts and ends with the owner. If a leader is not willing to be vulnerable, admit uncertainty and model the behaviour they want to see, no amount of clever recruitment will shift the culture underneath it. Yvonne Matzk shared some genuinely practical steps I want every listener to try. She suggests MSP owners ask their own teams what the culture genuinely feels like, rather than assuming, and recommends simple anonymous surveys as a starting point for honest feedback. She encourages leaders to benchmark where their culture sits today against where they want it to be, then commit to closing that gap deliberately. I want to leave you with the same challenge Yvonne Matzk gave me, sense check your culture, ask your people what they really think, and rethink where you are looking for talent, because most skills are transferable and the right people are often hiding in plain sight. Connect with Yvonne Matzk through her LinkedIn and websites: Coachere and The Channel Community. You can get her book here. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
July 19 · 21 min
EP294 - The Real Reason your MSP Marketing Didn't Work with Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I tackle one of the most common frustrations I hear from MSP owners every single week, the belief that MSP marketing simply does not work. I hear it constantly. Someone has tried an agency, a friend who knows social media, some pay per click, or a few Facebook ads, and each time the results fell flat. The real issue, as I explain, is not the tactic itself. It is the absence of a system that connects every activity back to booked calls and revenue. I open by challenging you to interrogate your marketing agency with one question, how does what you are doing connect to more booked calls. I have found that many agencies do not understand the MSP model, focusing on surface level activity like website redesigns and vague positioning work rather than a measurable path to pipeline. Inside The MSP Growth Hub, this connection between activity and results sits at the heart of the New Client Runway framework I teach from day one. I also address the MSP habit of leaning heavily on referrals. While steady referrals feel comfortable, I point out that this approach leaves owners exposed. If your biggest client leaves or a referral source dries up, you can lose a significant chunk of monthly recurring revenue overnight, with no backup plan in place. This is where account management, paired with consistent MSP marketing, becomes essential for protecting and growing your income. A central theme of the episode is what I call the stop start marketing cycle. I describe the familiar pattern, a quiet pipeline triggers a burst of marketing activity, a referral arrives, focus shifts back to delivery, and a few months later, the cycle repeats. I call this Groundhog Day marketing and I link it directly to why so many MSPs remain stuck under a million pounds in turnover. Without consistent visibility, you never build the compounding authority needed to be recognised as the expert in your niche. To fix this, I share five practical steps for building an effective MSP marketing system. The first is committing to a twelve-month runway rather than a three-month test, broken down into quarters and months so you know exactly what to focus on and when. The second is setting leading indicators, tracking visibility, conversations, and engagement rather than only watching for closed deals. I share a real example of a client who needed fresh leads, better numbers, and a profit first mindset, showing how leading indicators reveal what is really happening in your business. The third step is building weekly consistency. I recommend posting on LinkedIn at least three times a week from your personal profile and a couple of times from your company page, alongside keeping your Google Business Profile updated. I remind you that people buy from people, and visibility builds the trust required before anyone books a call. I also stress that the money is in the follow up, encouraging you to stay professional, purposeful, and persistent with every new conversation rather than sending one message and giving up. The fourth step is tracking pipeline momentum using our ONCAM framework, One New Client A Month, which helps you understand how many conversations and what conversion rate you need to hit your growth goals. The fifth step is treating MSP marketing as a genuine cost of growth, with a proper budget attached, reported on regularly alongside your other key performance indicators. I close by reminding you that sustainable growth is built on visibility, not luck. I encourage you to step outside your comfort zone, commit to the process, and trust that consistent MSP marketing compounds over time into a stronger brand, a healthier pipeline, and a more confident position in your market. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
July 12 · 54 min
EP293 - Intelligent MSP Operations – AI, Automation and Observability at Scale – The MSP Insights Panel Discussion
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I hosted an MSP Insights Roundtable on AI, automation, and observability at scale, bringing together three brilliant guests, Joe Burns, Fiona Challis, and Nick Horner. What struck me straight away was how all three agreed on one thing before we even got into the detail. AI, automation, and observability only work when you understand your own processes first. Joe walked us through how his MSP, Reformed, built its operational maturity by identifying repetitive tasks, spotting where human error crept in, and asking his team what they actually disliked doing. Only once that groundwork was done did he bring in automation, including an early AI triage system on the service desk, and it paid off. Nick added a perspective I loved, describing how starting small with clients avoids the scope creep that can derail an automation project before it even gets going. He shared a story about a modest HR automation that grew organically once the client saw the value for themselves, and how bringing end users into the process from day one builds the kind of trust that makes AI, automation, and observability actually stick. Getting genuine buy in, as Nick put it, turns a nervous stakeholder into a project sponsor rather than a blocker. Fiona introduced an idea I keep coming back to, becoming your own customer zero, assessing your own readiness before you ever take an AI conversation to a client. She told us most MSPs score only two or three out of five on her readiness assessment, which shows how much foundational work is still undocumented across our sector. We spent time discussing how observability has changed, moving away from juggling dashboards across Microsoft 365, PSA, and RMM tools towards a single intelligent layer that pulls everything together securely and quickly. Nick made the point that speed and accuracy no longer need a dedicated Power BI specialist, and Fiona reminded us that the ROI conversation always starts with measuring a baseline before you change anything. One of my favourite moments came from Joe, describing a law firm that spent three to four hours every week cross checking court lists against their case management system, a task his team solved with an agent in fifteen minutes. Fiona echoed this, encouraging MSPs to lead with one practical win rather than an overwhelming pitch, because solving a single small problem tends to open the door to many more conversations. We also got into the tension between compliance and outcome. Fiona argued that clients buy the outcome AI delivers rather than the technology itself, and Joe pushed back with honest feedback from his law firm clients, who want compliance answered first given how sensitive that sector is to reputational risk. Both agreed that governance needs to be built into the foundations of any deployment rather than bolted on afterwards. Drawing on Daniel Priestley's thinking around demand and supply tension, Joe warned us against pouring all our energy into operational capacity while neglecting sales and marketing, a gap that can quietly erode margins even as efficiency improves. Fiona picked this up with real enthusiasm, describing how AI and automation can make selling feel far more natural, framing every client conversation as a business problem to solve rather than a service to pitch. She introduced the three pillars she coaches MSPs towards, capacity, experience, and revenue, and stressed the importance of owning your intellectual property rather than giving away your hard built agents for free. We closed by sharing how each of us measures success, from outcome-based tracking to client and employee satisfaction scores, before final takeaways. Nick urged everyone to embrace the shift and stay ahead of the curve, Joe reminded us that capacity means nothing without the ability to sell it, and Fiona encouraged listeners to stop overthinking and take the first step. I came away from this session convinced, more than ever, that AI, automation, and observability can genuinely transform an MSP, provided the fundamentals are respected along the way. Connect with Fiona Challis through LinkedIn and website. Connect with Joe Burns through LinkedIn and website. Connect with Nick Horner through LinkedIn. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
July 5 · 27 min
EP292 - Inside The MSP Growth Hub - May 2026 Intensive Roundup with Stuart Warwick, Julie Hutchison, Peter Williamson and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we take you inside The MSP Growth Hub for a look at what happened during the May 2026 Intensive event. Ian Luckett is joined by his business partner Stuart Warwick and coaches Julie Hutchison and Peter Williamson, each sharing what unfolded across two days dedicated to helping MSP owners build stronger, more capable teams. At the heart of the conversation is MSP team alignment, and why it sits right at the centre of scaling a business with confidence. Stuart opens by explaining the theory behind the Intensive itself. The MSP Growth Hub runs this event three times a year, and each one is themed around one of the three pillars of the Scale with Confidence model. This May the focus was Amplify Capacity, using a framework called Embed and Connect to help growing MSPs align their people behind the strategy and goals of the business. Stuart describes how the vision and annual plan cascade down into a sixteen week plan, then into departmental plans, then into a daily and weekly rhythm across the business. This is MSP team alignment in practice, connecting people to systems, plans and direction so the business becomes a genuine asset rather than something that owns the owner. Ian reflects that around eighty percent of the challenges MSP owners bring to The MSP Growth Hub trace back to a leadership opportunity rather than a team problem. He and Stuart discuss the difference between a peer group and a structured programme, and how pausing to look back at progress is often the moment clients realise how far they have actually come. That pause, built into the Intensive itself, gives them the chance to calibrate against others on the same journey, working towards genuine MSP team alignment rather than isolated effort, and walk away with practical steps rather than vague encouragement. Julie takes listeners through her session on maximising team dynamics, focused squarely on MSP team alignment through clarity of function and clarity of requirements. She shares a memorable exercise called There's Been a Breach, where clients were deliberately given incomplete information about roles and responsibilities. The resulting confusion mirrored exactly what happens back in their own businesses when expectations are not clearly set. Julie explains that most people arrive at work wanting to do a good job, and that a leader's role is to set them up to succeed by removing ambiguity around who owns what. Peter Williamson, newer to The MSP Growth Hub coaching team, brings his background in governance to the conversation. He describes helping clients map every function in their business against the people who currently hold the skills to deliver it, revealing gaps that point directly to training needs or new hires. Peter's simple diagnostic question, asking each team member whether they understand their role and have what they need to do it well, proved to be a powerful starting point for many owners in the room. He also shares a story from one client who, after embedding clearer roles and responsibilities, took a holiday for the first time in three years because their team could confidently carry on without them. Across all three conversations, a consistent thread emerges. MSP team alignment is not a soft nice to have, it is the mechanism that turns a business from something the owner is trapped inside into something that can scale on its own rhythm. Whether through cascading plans, clarity exercises, or mapping skills against functions, the Intensive gave clients practical tools alongside the confidence to use them. The episode closes with a reminder that these insights are available to any MSP owner ready to bring more structure to their team. Getting the fundamentals of roles, responsibilities and communication right creates the foundation for sustainable growth, freeing owners to lead rather than firefight. How to build a high performing technical team, when you do not know where to start by Ian Luckett STOP Attracting the Wrong People to Your MSP with Julie Hutchison and Ian Luckett Ready to find out if we're the right fit to help you scale? Book a right fit clarity call: https://go.themspgrowthhub.com/are-we-the-right-fit Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
June 28 · 38 min
EP291 - The Real Lessons Learned from a £500k MSP Ransomware Attack with Ken Roulston & Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we share one of the most honest and eye-opening conversations we have ever had about a ransomware attack and the devastating impact it can have on an MSP. Ken Roulston joins me to openly discuss the events that led to a real world cyber incident which ultimately cost more than £500,000, challenged every part of the business, and tested the resilience of the leadership team in ways few business owners ever experience. This conversation is not designed to create fear. It is designed to create awareness. Every MSP owner believes they have the right security in place, the right backups running and the right processes protecting both their own business and their clients. Ken's experience demonstrates why confidence must always be backed up with verification, discipline, and continual improvement. Ken shares the full story of how a successful acquisition appeared to strengthen the business before a ransomware attack turned everything upside down. What began as a routine business trip quickly became one of the most stressful weekends of his career. A private data centre belonging to the newly acquired business had been compromised, leaving more than forty client environments inaccessible. As the investigation unfolded, it became clear that the attackers had gained access through one of the least protected customer environments before remaining undetected for several months. One of the biggest lessons from this ransomware attack is that strong technology alone is never enough. Human error, incomplete backup verification and inconsistent security standards combined to create a perfect opportunity for attackers. The discussion explores how backup systems appeared to be functioning correctly while failing to produce recoverable data when it mattered most. It is a reminder that testing your disaster recovery process is every bit as important as performing the backup itself. Ken explains the difficult decision to negotiate with the attackers after discovering there was no viable way to restore the systems independently. He openly describes the emotional pressure of balancing legal advice, customer expectations, and the financial impact while attempting to recover critical business systems. It is an extraordinary insight into a situation that many MSP owners hope they will never face, although every provider should prepare for the possibility. As the recovery began, the challenge shifted from retrieving encrypted information to rebuilding more than forty client environments from the ground up. The team worked around the clock for weeks to restore services, rebuild trust and move customers onto more resilient cloud infrastructure. Despite the enormous disruption, the business retained the majority of its recurring revenue and emerged with valuable lessons that continue to shape how Ken advises MSPs today. Throughout the episode we explore the practical actions every MSP should take immediately. Ken highlights the importance of enforcing minimum security standards across every client, verifying backups regularly, maintaining isolated recovery environments, and investing in your own cybersecurity with the same commitment you expect from your customers. One of the strongest messages throughout the conversation is that MSPs cannot afford to become complacent. Your clients' security directly affects your own business, making security standards a shared responsibility rather than an optional service. We also discuss how ransomware attacks continue to evolve as cybercriminals become increasingly sophisticated. With artificial intelligence accelerating both defensive capabilities and cyber threats, MSPs must continually review their security posture, educate their teams, and ensure every client understands the importance of maintaining modern cybersecurity standards. Building resilience is no longer about reacting to incidents. It is about creating systems, habits and leadership that reduce risk long before an attack occurs. If you are responsible for protecting client environments, leading an MSP or planning future growth, this episode offers valuable lessons drawn from genuine experience rather than theory. Ken's willingness to share one of the most difficult periods of his career provides an opportunity for every MSP owner to strengthen their own business before a ransomware attack forces those lessons upon them. The conversation serves as a powerful reminder that preparation, leadership and continual improvement remain the strongest defence against an ever-changing threat landscape. Every MSP can learn from this experience and use these lessons to build greater confidence, stronger security and a more resilient business for the future. Connect with Ken Roulston through LinkedIn. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
June 21 · 31 min
EP290 - The Impact of Self-Awareness on You, Your Team, and Your Business with Mark Stevens, Julie Hutchison, and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we explore one of the most powerful leadership skills any MSP owner can develop: self-awareness. While many business conversations focus on strategy, sales, systems, and growth, this discussion takes a different path. I am joined by leadership coach Julie Hutchison and Managing Director of Mark1 IT Mark Stevens to unpack how self-awareness impacts you, your team, and ultimately the success of your business. The conversation begins with Mark sharing his own leadership journey and the challenges he experienced as his business grew. Like many MSP owners, he found himself frustrated when team members did not perform in the way he expected. He wanted people to move at the same speed, think in the same way, and approach challenges with the same intensity. Over time, that created pressure, frustration, and a growing disconnect between what he wanted from his team and what they were able to deliver. What makes this episode particularly valuable is Mark's honesty. Rather than focusing on what was wrong with his team, he reflects on what he discovered about himself. Through coaching, reflection, and experience, he began to understand that many of the challenges within the business were connected to the way he was showing up as a leader. This realisation became the starting point for meaningful change. Julie explains that self awareness is not simply about understanding your personality. It is about recognising the impact your behaviour has on other people. Every leader influences the confidence, motivation, and performance of their team. When leaders become more aware of how they communicate, react under pressure, and set expectations, they create an environment where people can thrive. A key moment in the discussion centres around behavioural profiling and understanding different communication styles. Mark shares how learning about his DISC profile helped him recognise that not everyone thinks, works, or processes information in the same way. What felt obvious and straightforward to him often felt overwhelming or unclear to others. Developing greater self-awareness allowed him to adapt his communication and lead people more effectively. The conversation also explores the relationship between self-awareness and emotional intelligence. Mark talks openly about recognising the impact of stress, fatigue, and even lifestyle choices on the way he interacted with his team. Rather than allowing frustration to dictate his behaviour, he learned to pause, reflect, and respond more intentionally. This shift created stronger relationships and helped build trust throughout the business. One of the most powerful themes throughout the episode is the idea that leadership starts with personal responsibility. It is easy to blame team members when results are not where you want them to be. It takes courage to hold up the mirror and ask what role you might be playing in the situation. Julie introduces the concept of "Can't, Won't, Don't", a framework that helps leaders understand whether team members lack capability, confidence, motivation, or clarity. Instead of assuming people are underperforming, leaders are encouraged to become curious and seek understanding. As self-awareness increases, leaders become better equipped to identify the real barriers holding their teams back. They stop reacting emotionally and start creating conditions where people can succeed. This leads to improved communication, stronger accountability, and greater engagement across the organisation. Mark also shares how greater self-awareness transformed the culture inside Mark1 IT. What was once a source of frustration became a business environment he genuinely enjoys. Team members became more confident. Conversations became more productive. The business became more structured and aligned. Most importantly, people started taking ownership and making decisions with confidence. The discussion highlights another important lesson for MSP owners. Self-awareness is not a destination. It is an ongoing process. Every stage of business growth brings new challenges, new responsibilities, and new opportunities for personal development. The leaders who continue to learn, reflect, and adapt are the ones who create sustainable success for themselves and their teams. Throughout the episode, Ian, Julie, and Mark remind us that people are the most valuable asset in any business. Systems, technology, and processes all matter. Yet the way leaders think, behave, and communicate has a profound impact on everything else. When leaders invest in their own growth, they create ripple effects that influence culture, performance, and long-term business results. If you have ever found yourself frustrated with your team, questioning why people are not taking ownership, or wondering why progress feels slower than it should, this episode offers a valuable perspective. It provides practical insights, honest reflections, and powerful reminders that leadership begins with understanding yourself first. Self-awareness creates clarity. Clarity builds confidence. Confidence helps people perform at their best. When leaders embrace that journey, they create stronger businesses and more fulfilling places to work. Connect with Mark Stevens through LinkedIn and his website. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
June 14 · 33 min
EP289 - Having a Stand vs Mastering the Show – Why Most MSPs Get Events Wrong with Steve Lloyd and Ian Luckett
In this episode of the IT Experts Podcast, we explore one of the most overlooked opportunities for MSP growth: exhibitions and events. If you have ever invested time and money into a trade show, only to come away wondering whether it was worth it, this conversation with Steve Lloyd is essential listening. Many MSP owners know they need to get out into the market, meet potential clients, build relationships, and generate fresh opportunities. The challenge is that exhibitions can often feel uncomfortable, especially for technical founders who are far more confident discussing technology than approaching strangers in a busy exhibition hall. The result is that many businesses turn up with a couple of banners, a table full of brochures, and a hope that the right people will stop by. According to Steve Lloyd, that approach is exactly why so many exhibitors fail to see a return on their investment. Throughout this episode, Steve Lloyd shares a completely different way of thinking about exhibitions. Rather than viewing them as a one-day event, he encourages MSPs to see them as part of a much larger business development process. Success begins long before the doors open and continues long after the exhibition has finished. One of the most powerful insights from the conversation is the idea that you are not simply renting a stand. You are creating a temporary shop inside a temporary shopping centre. When viewed through that lens, everything changes. You start thinking about customer experience, visibility, engagement, staff preparation, and follow up. You begin asking better questions about what success actually looks like and how you can create meaningful conversations with the people who matter most. Steve Lloyd explains that many exhibitors make the mistake of accepting the standard setup provided by the venue. Tables become barriers. Brochures create clutter. Team members sit behind their stand waiting for visitors to approach. Unfortunately, that approach rarely creates energy, excitement, or engagement. Instead, Steve Lloyd encourages businesses to take ownership of their space. Every element of the stand should support a clear message. Visitors should immediately understand who you help, what problem you solve, and why they should engage with you. Simplicity becomes a competitive advantage. Clear messaging consistently outperforms complicated explanations and technical jargon. The discussion also highlights an important challenge many MSP owners face. Technical expertise does not automatically translate into effective communication. It is easy to fall into the expert trap and overwhelm prospects with information. Steve Lloyd explains that successful exhibitors learn how to simplify complex ideas and connect with people who may have very little technical knowledge. Confidence comes from clarity, and clarity helps create stronger conversations. Another key theme throughout the episode is preparation. Steve Lloyd introduces what he calls the Exhibition Life Cycle, a framework built around preparation, promotion, execution, and follow up. Each stage plays a critical role in determining the overall success of an exhibition. Preparation involves far more than ordering banners and booking accommodation. It includes defining objectives, developing messaging, planning customer journeys, training staff, preparing follow up processes, and ensuring there are no surprises on the day. The more preparation that happens in advance, the more confident and effective your team becomes during the event itself. Promotion is another area where many businesses leave opportunities on the table. Steve Lloyd encourages exhibitors to build anticipation before the event begins. The most successful stands create awareness and excitement before visitors even arrive at the venue. This helps maximise engagement and creates momentum throughout the event. When it comes to execution, the conversation focuses heavily on human interaction. While games, competitions, and attractions can help capture attention, Steve Lloyd believes that well trained staff remain the most valuable asset on any exhibition stand. Great conversations consistently outperform gimmicks when it comes to building trust and generating quality leads. The discussion also challenges the traditional approach to exhibition competitions. Rather than offering prizes that attract everyone, Steve Lloyd recommends prizes that attract the right people. A free workshop, assessment, training session, or educational event creates far more value than generic prizes that have no connection to your expertise. The goal is to bring prospects into your world and allow them to experience the value you provide. Perhaps the most important takeaway from this episode is that exhibitions are not about making immediate sales. They are about starting meaningful conversations with the right people. Every interaction becomes part of a larger relationship building process that continues long after the exhibition has ended. If you want to generate better results from your next event, this conversation with Steve Lloyd provides a practical framework you can implement immediately. From creating stronger messaging and improving stand design to building effective follow up systems, the advice shared in this episode will help you approach exhibitions with greater confidence, structure, and purpose. Whether you are attending your first trade show or looking to improve the return on events you already invest in, the lessons from Steve Lloyd offer a clear roadmap for turning exhibitions into a powerful growth channel for your MSP. Connect with Steve Lloyd through LinkedIn and his website. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
June 7 · 31 min
EP288 - Why Poor Governance is Killing the Value of Your MSP and How to Fix it with Ken Roulston and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I sit down with Ken Roulston to explore a topic that many MSP owners know they should be paying attention to, yet often leave until much later than they should. Governance. Now, before you switch off thinking this is a subject reserved for larger businesses, stay with me. This conversation is one of the most important discussions we've had around protecting the value of your MSP, reducing unnecessary risk and building a business that is genuinely attractive to a future buyer. Ken brings a huge amount of experience to this conversation. Having built and successfully exited a £17 million MSP, he has seen first hand what separates valuable businesses from those that struggle to achieve the valuation their owners expect. Through his work with MSPs across the UK and Ireland, Ken regularly helps business owners understand the factors that drive value and the mistakes that can quietly destroy it. One of the points I often make is that every MSP owner will eventually sell their business. Whether that happens in five years, ten years or twenty years is almost irrelevant. At some stage, ownership changes hands. The question is whether you will be rewarded properly for all the hard work, investment and sacrifice that went into building it. That is where Governance comes in. Throughout our conversation, Ken and I unpack why Governance is far more than a compliance exercise. Good Governance creates confidence. It gives buyers reassurance. It reduces risk. It demonstrates professionalism. Most importantly, it helps you build a stronger business today, regardless of whether an exit is anywhere on your immediate horizon. We begin by looking at financial Governance and why understanding your numbers is only part of the story. Many MSP owners can tell you their monthly revenue and profitability. Far fewer fully understand the financial responsibilities that come with being a company director. Ken explains the importance of financial controls, cashflow management, solvency and proper accounting practices. These are not optional activities. They are part of your legal responsibility as a business owner. We also discuss how poor financial Governance can raise serious red flags during an acquisition. Buyers want confidence that a business is being managed professionally. Strong reporting, clear approval processes, documented decisions and consistent financial management all contribute to a stronger valuation and a smoother due diligence process. From there, we move into legal Governance, which is often where hidden problems begin to emerge. Ken shares examples of acquisitions where customer contracts, supplier agreements and employee terms created unexpected complications. In some cases, a single clause buried within a contract was enough to significantly impact the value of a deal. One example in particular highlights how an overlooked contract clause could force a buyer to seek approval from every customer before completing an acquisition. It is a powerful reminder that Governance is not about having paperwork in place. It is about understanding exactly what those documents mean and how they affect the future of your business. We also spend time discussing employee Governance. As MSP owners, our people remain our greatest investment and often our largest cost. Strong Governance creates clear expectations, supports accountability and helps protect both employees and the business. Ken explains why current employment contracts, documented processes and professional HR support are essential if you want to build a resilient organisation. Towards the end of the episode, we broaden the conversation into business risk. This is an area we regularly help MSP Growth Hub members address because many business owners spend their days helping clients manage risk while overlooking risks within their own organisations. Ken shares practical examples of the risks every MSP should be assessing, including customer concentration, supplier dependency, cashflow exposure and operational vulnerabilities. We discuss why creating a risk register does not need to be complicated and how taking time to identify potential threats can significantly improve decision making and business resilience. If you want to build a stronger MSP, improve its future value and avoid the costly mistakes that catch many owners out during an exit process, this episode is packed with practical insights. Governance may not be the most glamorous topic in business, although it could be one of the most valuable conversations you will have this year. As Ken says throughout the discussion, buyers are looking for confidence, credibility and professionalism. Good Governance helps you demonstrate all three. Connect with Ken Roulston through LinkedIn and his website. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
May 31 · 16 min
EP287 - Get Your Time Back Part 2 - Stop Being the Default Decision-Maker in your MSP with Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I continue our Get Your Time Back series by tackling one of the biggest challenges I see MSP owners facing every single day, becoming the default decision-maker in their business. If your team comes to you for every answer, every approval, every problem, and every decision, there is a good chance you've become the bottleneck without even realising it. The frustrating part is that most MSP owners believe they have a workload problem when in reality they have a leadership pattern that is holding the business back. Throughout this episode, I explain why being overwhelmed is often less about the amount of work and more about how decisions flow through the business. When every road leads back to you, growth slows down, confidence across the team drops and you end up spending your days firefighting rather than leading. I share why teams naturally mirror the behaviour of their leaders. If you are constantly stepping in to rescue situations, provide answers and solve problems, your team will quickly learn that the easiest option is to come straight to you. Before long, you find yourself carrying the weight of every decision while capable people around you stop trusting their own judgement. One of the key concepts I explore is the difference between a parent to child relationship and an adult to adult relationship inside your MSP. When leaders constantly provide solutions, they unintentionally create dependency. When leaders coach instead of rescue, they create ownership, accountability and confidence. That shift is where real growth begins. We also look at why many people hesitate to step forward and make decisions. In most cases it comes down to fear. Fear of getting something wrong. Fear of making a mistake. Fear of looking silly in front of colleagues or clients. If every challenge is immediately taken away from them, that fear never gets challenged and confidence never grows. I share a simple but powerful analogy about learned behaviour and how teams can become conditioned to operate below their potential. Over time, people stop looking for solutions because they believe someone else will provide them. If that someone is always you, becoming the default decision-maker becomes a cycle that gets harder and harder to break. The cost of staying in that position is significant. It limits growth, slows progress and prevents you from spending time on the strategic activities that will move your MSP forward. More importantly, it prevents your team from developing into the confident, capable people you need them to become. That is why I introduce one of the coaching frameworks we use inside The MSP Growth Hub, the GROW model. This simple approach helps leaders stop rescuing and start coaching. It gives your team the opportunity to think, solve problems and take ownership while allowing you to step back from being the default decision-maker. We walk through each stage of the framework, from defining the goal and understanding the reality, through to exploring options and agreeing the way forward. When used consistently, this approach can transform the quality of conversations inside your business and help create a culture where people take responsibility rather than waiting for instructions. I also share practical techniques you can start using immediately, including one simple habit that can dramatically reduce interruptions throughout your day. It starts with resisting the urge to answer every question straight away and instead helping people think through the solution themselves. If you are serious about getting your time back, building a stronger leadership team and creating a business that works for you rather than you working for it, this episode will give you practical ideas that you can start implementing today. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
May 24 · 19 min
EP286 - Get Your Time Back Part 1 - Don't Confuse Activity With Achievement with Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I kick off a brand-new two-part series focused on one of the biggest frustrations MSP owners face, how to get your time back. If you constantly feel busy, overwhelmed, reactive, or like your week disappears before you have made any real progress, then this episode is for you. I want to help you stop confusing activity with achievement and start focusing on the things that genuinely move your MSP forward. Every day inside The MSP Growth Hub, we speak to MSP owners who are stretched in every direction. They are buried in emails, firefighting problems, approving decisions, and carrying the weight of the business on their shoulders. The challenge is that being busy creates the illusion of progress. Ticking tasks off a list feels productive. Clearing your inbox feels satisfying. Yet none of it guarantees that you are building a business that gives you more freedom, more profit, or more control over your future. In this episode, I unpack why so many MSP owners stay trapped in reactive mode for years and how that slowly impacts growth, leadership, confidence, and even mental wellbeing. I talk openly about the habits, behaviours, and leadership patterns that stop owners from creating space to think strategically and lead effectively. If you want to get your time back, there has to come a point where you stop measuring success by how hard you are working and start measuring success by the outcomes you are creating. One of the most important ideas I explore in this episode is strategic thinking time. Years ago, someone once told me that leaders need time to think. At the time, I thought it sounded ridiculous because there was always work to do, clients to support, and targets to hit. Looking back now, it was one of the most valuable lessons I have ever learned. If you never create space to think clearly, plan properly, and focus on the bigger picture, you stay stuck reacting to everyone else's priorities instead of leading your business forward with intention. I also share practical lessons around protecting your time and becoming more disciplined with your diary. If you want to get your time back, you need to treat your own thinking time with the same level of importance as a client meeting. You need to stop allowing interruptions, distractions, and reactive requests to consume every available hour in your week. Strategic time cannot be something you fit in when everything else is finished because everything else is never finished. Another huge theme in this conversation is leadership and empowerment. Many MSP owners unintentionally train their teams to rely on them for every decision. Over time, that creates bottlenecks, frustration, and dependency across the business. I explain why creating clear decision filters and empowering your team to think independently is one of the fastest ways to reduce pressure and improve performance. When your people feel trusted and supported to solve problems themselves, the business becomes stronger and you create the space needed to focus on higher value work. I also dive into the importance of measuring what actually matters inside your MSP. Too many businesses stay focused on symptoms instead of identifying root causes. Whether it is inconsistent delivery, project issues, poor accountability, or operational inefficiency, lasting improvement only happens when you step back and understand what is really driving the problem. This is where leadership, process, and accountability all connect together. Artificial intelligence and automation also come into the conversation. There is a huge amount of excitement around AI right now, although I share a grounded perspective on what it can and cannot do. AI is not a magic fix for broken businesses. Before you automate anything, you need clear processes, strong structure, and a business that already understands how it should operate. Technology can accelerate progress, although it still relies on strong foundations underneath it. One of the most practical parts of this episode is where I explain the difference between £10 tasks, £100 tasks, and £1,000 tasks. So many MSP owners spend their week trapped inside low value admin work that could be automated, delegated, or removed completely. If you truly want to get your time back, you need to consistently move yourself towards the work that creates the biggest impact for your business, your team, and your future. This episode is packed with practical ideas to help you protect your time, improve your leadership, and create more focus inside your MSP. My goal is to help you stop being a busy fool and start building a business that genuinely works for you rather than you working for it. When you create space to think strategically, empower your people properly, and focus on what truly matters, growth becomes far more sustainable and far more enjoyable. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
May 17 · 35 min
EP285 - Beyond Recruitment- How to Attract and Retain the Right Staff with Zoe Chatley and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we go beyond recruitment and explore what it really takes to attract and retain the right staff in your MSP. Many MSP owners tell us that finding good people feels harder than ever. They advertise roles, interview candidates, and still end up wondering why the right people are not applying, or why talented team members leave after a short period of time. The truth is that attracting and retaining the right staff starts long before you post a job advert. In this conversation, I am joined by Zoe Chatley, founder of The Channel Recruiter, who specialises in helping businesses across the IT channel recruit exceptional people. Zoe brings more than 20 years of recruitment experience and shares practical insights that every MSP owner can apply straight away. We begin by exploring why recruitment has changed so much. Candidates are no longer looking only at salary and job titles. They are thinking much more carefully about the type of company they want to work for, the culture they want to be part of, and whether the business genuinely values its people. That means if you want to attract and retain the right staff, you need to think like a marketer. Your future employees are researching your business in exactly the same way that prospects research your services. They visit your website, review your LinkedIn presence, read employee feedback, and look for evidence that your business offers a positive and supportive place to work. This is where employer branding becomes incredibly important. Employer branding is much more than your logo or the design of your website. It is the reputation your business has as a place to work. It includes the way your team talks about the business, the stories you share online, and the consistency between what you say and what your employees experience every day. Zoe explains that one of the strongest tools available to MSPs is their Employee Value Proposition, often called the EVP. Your EVP is the complete package of benefits, flexibility, support, and opportunities you offer to your team. This includes hybrid working, holiday entitlement, healthcare, career development, flexibility for family life, and the little things that make people feel trusted and valued. When you want to attract and retain the right staff, your EVP needs to be clear, meaningful, and visible. It should appear in your job adverts, on your website, throughout your interview process, and in the everyday experience your employees have once they join your business. We also discuss company culture and why it plays such a critical role. Culture is what people experience when they work in your business. It is how people communicate, how leaders behave, and how the team supports one another. One of the simplest ways to measure your culture is by looking at staff retention. If talented people stay with you for many years and speak positively about the business, that is usually a very strong sign that your culture is healthy. Values are another essential part of this process. Your company values act as your internal compass. They guide decisions, shape behaviour, and help you identify people who align naturally with your business. When you attract and retain the right staff, you are looking for individuals whose values match your own. Skills can be developed. Character, attitude, and integrity are much harder to teach. One of the most valuable parts of this episode is Zoe's perspective on transferable skills. If you are struggling to recruit within the IT industry, there are exceptional people outside the channel who may be a perfect fit. Sales professionals, customer service specialists, and technically minded individuals from other sectors often bring fresh energy, resilience, and strong people skills. With the right support and development, these individuals can become some of your strongest team members. As Zoe says, do not hire for need. Hire for strength. That one idea can completely change the way you build your team. If you want to attract and retain the right staff, start by reviewing your culture, clarifying your values, strengthening your EVP, and telling your story more confidently. The businesses that do this consistently become magnets for the right people. And when you have the right people in the right seats, growth becomes much easier. Connect with Zoe Chatley through LinkedIn HERE or through their website HERE. You can also send her an email at zoe@thechannelrecruiter.co.uk. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
May 10 · 19 min
EP284 - The MSP Owner Bottleneck: Every MSP Needs a Superhero Until It Wants to Scale with Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I want to help you break free from one of the biggest growth blockers I see in the MSP world, the MSP Owner Bottleneck. If you constantly feel pulled into every issue, every escalation, every client conversation, and every decision inside your business, then this episode is for you. I unpack why so many MSP founders become the superhero inside their organisation, how that behaviour develops over time, and why it eventually limits scale, leadership growth, profitability, and even the long-term value of the business itself. For many MSP owners, the MSP Owner Bottleneck starts with good intentions. In the early years, you are the technical expert, the trusted advisor, the problem solver, and the person clients rely on when things go wrong. That level of involvement often helps build the business initially because clients trust you personally and your team leans on your experience to navigate difficult situations. Over time though, this creates a dangerous dependency where everything flows back through you. Every important decision, every escalation, and every challenge eventually lands on your desk. In this conversation, I talk openly about the role of the superhero founder inside MSPs. Many owners spend years stepping in to save projects, solve client issues, rescue support situations, and make decisions that nobody else feels confident making themselves. The challenge is that while this creates short term stability, it stops the business from developing real leadership depth. Teams stop taking ownership because they know the owner will eventually step in and fix things anyway. Clients continue contacting you directly because they have been trained to do so. Before long, the MSP Owner Bottleneck becomes stronger every year, leaving the business stressful, reactive, and difficult to scale. One of the key messages I share in this episode is that what helped you build your MSP will not necessarily help you scale it. Many founders eventually reach a point where the business no longer supports the life or goals they originally wanted because too much depends on them personally. You may have built a successful MSP that generates revenue and supports a team, although growth begins to stall because leadership and accountability have never been fully distributed throughout the organisation. The result is an MSP owner constantly firefighting, permanently busy, and struggling to focus on strategic growth. I also explore how the MSP Owner Bottleneck impacts employee engagement, accountability, and leadership development. When team members never receive real ownership or authority, they struggle to grow into stronger leaders. Senior engineers and managers begin waiting for approval rather than making confident decisions themselves. Escalation replaces ownership. I explain why ambitious employees often leave environments where they cannot grow, while others remain stuck operating below their full potential. This creates a cycle where recruitment becomes reactive rather than strategic, adding even more pressure onto the founder. Another important area we unpack is the relationship between MSP owners and their clients. Many founders unintentionally train clients to contact them directly for support, reassurance, or decision making. While this can feel valuable in the short term, it weakens the trust clients have in the wider business. I explain why scalable MSPs create trust in systems, processes, leadership teams, and structure rather than relying entirely on the founder relationship. This shift becomes essential for any MSP that wants stronger operational maturity, improved scalability, and higher business valuation in the future. I also spend time discussing the emotional side of leadership and the role ego quietly plays inside growing MSPs. Being the person who fixes everything can feel rewarding. It creates a sense of importance, control, and security. For technically minded founders especially, stepping away from that role can feel uncomfortable because the business has been built around your expertise for years. Real growth happens when you begin empowering others, creating accountability, and allowing leaders inside the organisation to own outcomes confidently. Throughout the episode, I share practical ways to reduce dependency and build stronger leadership structure inside your MSP. We talk about redirecting client communication through proper channels, allowing managers to own difficult conversations, encouraging team members to bring solutions instead of problems, and building a healthier rhythm of accountability across the business. These small changes create massive leverage over time. One of the strongest points I make in this episode is that scaling an MSP requires a move away from reactive heroics and towards proactive structure. Accountability, consistency, communication, and leadership development become the foundations of sustainable growth. When your leadership team feels trusted and empowered, the business becomes calmer, more scalable, and significantly more valuable. The MSP Owner Bottleneck also directly affects exit planning and business valuation. Buyers look carefully at leadership depth and operational independence when assessing MSPs. Businesses heavily dependent on the founder carry greater risk and often achieve lower valuations. In contrast, MSPs with strong systems, empowered leaders, and operational consistency become far more attractive acquisition opportunities. Building a business that can thrive without constant founder involvement creates genuine transferable value and far more long-term options. This episode is a reminder that sustainable growth does not come from working harder or rescuing more situations personally. It comes from building leaders, creating structure, and developing a business that can operate successfully without depending on one individual for every outcome. If you recognise yourself inside the MSP Owner Bottleneck, this conversation will give you practical ideas, clarity, and confidence to begin making the shift. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
May 3 · 54 min
EP283 - MSP Channel Insights Panel- Cybersecurity, Compliance and Resilience – with Neil Smith, Gene Kim, David Clarke, and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we explore what it really takes for MSPs to build a strong foundation in cybersecurity, compliance, and resilience in a world where risk is constantly evolving. In this special roundtable session, I am joined by Neil Smith, Gene Kim, and David Clarke, who each bring deep, practical experience from the front line of cybersecurity and compliance within the MSP space. You will hear how the role of the MSP has shifted from simply managing IT systems to becoming a central part of how businesses manage risk. As Neil Smith shares from his own journey, the demand from clients has changed significantly. Businesses are no longer asking for technical support alone. They want reassurance that they are protected, aligned with standards, and prepared for whatever may come next. This is where cybersecurity, compliance, and resilience come together as a core offering rather than an add on. Gene Kim expands on this by highlighting how trust is now directly linked to revenue. Clients expect MSPs to provide clear visibility, consistent reporting, and confidence that systems are secure and recoverable. This is not about tools alone. It is about outcomes. MSPs are now expected to help clients prove they are operating securely, not only for their own peace of mind, though also for insurers, auditors, and stakeholders. A strong theme throughout the conversation is education. As Neil Smith explains, many businesses still believe they are not a target or that basic protection is enough. The role of the MSP is to guide clients through understanding their risks in a calm and structured way. This is not about creating fear. It is about building awareness and helping clients make informed decisions that support long term stability. David Clarke brings a valuable perspective on compliance and governance. He highlights how frameworks such as GDPR and Cyber Essentials provide a strong foundation, though they are not a one-off exercise. Cybersecurity, compliance, and resilience require continuous attention. It is similar to securing your home. You do not lock the door once and forget about it. You maintain awareness and take responsibility over time. The conversation also explores the importance of clearly defined responsibility. MSPs play a critical role in implementing and managing systems, though the ownership of risk always sits with the client. David Clarke reinforces that understanding who owns the risk leads to stronger, more productive conversations. When this is clear, businesses can make better decisions and avoid confusion during critical moments. Supply chain security is another key focus. With MSPs relying on a growing number of vendors and tools, every decision introduces potential exposure. Gene Kim and Neil Smith both emphasise the need for transparency, trust, and careful evaluation when selecting partners. It is not only about functionality. It is about reliability, communication, and how those vendors respond when something goes wrong. When the discussion moves to incident response, the tone becomes even more practical. Every MSP needs a clear and well understood plan. David Clarke explains the importance of rapid escalation, strong leadership, and access to the right expertise at the right time. Decisions need to be made quickly, often with incomplete information, and preparation makes all the difference. Neil Smith adds that these conversations should happen before an incident occurs. Working through scenarios with clients, even in a simple tabletop format, can highlight gaps and build confidence. Gene Kim reinforces this by stressing the importance of having systems that can recover quickly and maintain control during an incident. Resilience is the thread that connects everything discussed in this episode. It is not enough to reduce risk. Businesses need to be able to continue operating when challenges arise. Cybersecurity, compliance, and resilience work together to create that outcome. When done well, they provide stability, confidence, and a platform for growth. This episode makes one thing very clear. MSPs who fully embrace cybersecurity, compliance, and resilience will stand out. As Neil Smith demonstrates through his own positioning, this creates a powerful advantage in the market. It builds trust, strengthens relationships, and supports long term success. If you want to position your MSP as a trusted advisor and create a more secure, scalable business, this episode offers clear and practical direction. Focus on the fundamentals, build strong frameworks, educate your clients, and keep refining your approach. Over time, this creates a business that not only protects clients, though also grows with confidence. Connect with Neil Smith through LinkedIn HERE. Connect with Gene Kim through LinkedIn HERE. Connect with David Clarke through LinkedIn HERE. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
April 26 · 23 min
EP282 - Why Should I Attend the 2026 MSP Show in London with Aaron Fletcher, Alexandra Harris and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, we explore why the 2026 MSP Show in London is becoming one of the most valuable events for MSP owners and their teams who want clarity, direction, and real progress in their business. I am joined by Aaron Fletcher and Alexandra Harris, the driving force behind the event, who share what makes this year's show such a powerful opportunity for growth. This is not about turning up to another event and walking away with a bag of merchandise. This is about making a conscious decision to invest time in learning, connecting, and building momentum. The 2026 MSP Show brings together MSP owners, senior leaders, and technical teams in a way that feels both structured and flexible. As Alexandra Harris explains, the event has been designed to give attendees the freedom to move, choose, and engage with the sessions that matter most to them. You are not being pushed from one session to another. You are given space to think, learn, and connect in a way that suits your style. Aaron Fletcher shares how the event continues to evolve each year, bringing fresh ideas, more energy, and a stronger focus on delivering value. This is not a static conference. It is a living environment that reflects what MSPs actually need right now. That energy creates a completely different experience, one that feels closer to a collaborative space than a traditional event. What stands out immediately about the 2026 MSP Show is the focus on value. Every session is designed to give you something practical that you can take back and apply. There is no filler content and no product pitching disguised as education. Instead, you will hear from industry experts who understand the real challenges MSPs are facing and who are there to guide you forward with clarity and confidence. One of the strongest elements of the 2026 MSP Show is the way it has been built around real feedback from the MSP community. Alexandra Harris explains how the team gathered input from across the industry to shape the agenda, ensuring the topics are relevant, timely, and aligned with the current challenges MSPs face. This approach means you are far more likely to leave with ideas that create immediate impact. Another powerful reason to attend the 2026 MSP Show is the opportunity to connect with others in the industry. Running an MSP can feel isolating at times. Being in a room with people who understand your challenges creates a different level of energy. Conversations that start casually can quickly turn into valuable partnerships, new ideas, or solutions to problems that have been sitting unresolved for months. This year, the introduction of MSP hot topic roundtables adds another layer of value. As Aaron Fletcher highlights, these smaller group discussions create space for honest conversations and shared experiences. You are not sitting quietly in a large audience. You are actively contributing, learning from others, and gaining insights that are directly relevant to your situation. The 2026 MSP Show also creates a balance between learning and experience. There is a strong sense of energy throughout the event, with opportunities to network, explore new ideas, and step away from the day to day demands of running your business. When you give yourself space to think, you make better decisions. When your team is involved, they gain clarity on the direction of the business and feel more aligned with where you are heading. From a strategic perspective, attending the 2026 MSP Show is not a cost. It is an investment. When approached with intention, it becomes a project. You can plan who you want to meet, which sessions will support your goals, and how you will follow up afterwards. This is where the real return comes from. The conversations you have, the ideas you capture, and the actions you take afterwards all contribute to the growth of your MSP. There is also significant value in the co-located Service Desk and IT Support Show, which Aaron Fletcher and Alexandra Harris explain has been running for decades and brings together a wider ecosystem of tools, vendors, and expertise. This creates an environment where both the commercial and technical sides of your business can grow together. Ultimately, the 2026 MSP Show is about helping you step back, reset your thinking, and move forward with purpose. With insights from Aaron Fletcher and Alexandra Harris, this episode gives you a clear view of what is possible when you surround yourself with the right people, the right ideas, and the right opportunities. If you are serious about building a business that works for you and not the other way around, this is your opportunity to take action. Register to join the 2026 MSP Show HERE. Connect with Aaron Fletcher HERE and with Alexandra Harris HERE. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!
April 19 · 40 min
EP281 - Stop Working IN Your MSP - Make It Work For You - with Mit Patel, Darren Strong, Paul Green and Ian Luckett
In this episode of The IT Experts Podcast, I sit down with Mit Patel, Darren Strong, and Paul Green for a powerful panel discussion focused on one of the biggest challenges MSP owners face, how to stop working in your MSP and start building a business that works for you. This is a topic I see come up time and time again. Many MSP owners start from a technical background, and before they know it, they are deep in the day to day, solving problems, firefighting, and carrying the weight of the business on their shoulders. If you want to stop working in your MSP, there has to be a conscious shift in how you think, plan, and lead. Mit kicks things off by sharing something I see all the time. Most MSPs are not spending enough time planning, or they do not know where to start. The truth is, it does not need to be complicated. You need clarity on where you are now and where you want to get to in the next twelve months. From there, it is about breaking that down into simple, consistent actions that move you forward. Darren builds on this and brings it back to consistency. Without a clear plan, you end up making decisions based on how you feel in the moment. One day you move in one direction, the next day it changes. Over time, that creates confusion across your team and slows everything down. If you want to stop working in your MSP, your plan needs to guide your decisions and shape the behaviour of your business. Paul then brings in a perspective that I know will resonate with many of you. Too many MSPs are running on hope. Hoping they will find time for marketing. Hoping nothing disrupts the day. Hoping things will improve. That can go on for years. The shift happens when you decide to take control and build something with purpose. If you truly want to stop working in your MSP, you need to carve out time every day to focus on growth and the future of the business. We also spend time talking about leadership, because this is where things really start to change. I have seen it in my own journey and with the MSPs we support. When your team understands the vision and knows what matters most, everything starts to move faster. Mit shares how aligning the team around clear quarterly priorities creates momentum and builds a culture where people feel part of the success. This is essential if you want to stop working in your MSP and create something that grows beyond you. Another important part of the conversation is around speed and structure. In the early days, you can change direction quickly. As your business grows, that becomes harder. Paul explains the importance of staying flexible while putting the right systems in place. You need structure to scale, while still keeping enough agility to respond to change. That balance is key if you want to stop working in your MSP and keep moving forward. Darren then brings it back to operational maturity, and this is where many MSPs hit a wall. You can only rely on hard work for so long. Long hours and constant pressure lead to fatigue, and eventually something has to change. This is often the moment when you realise that what got you here will not get you there. To stop working in your MSP, you need systems, measurement, and accountability that support consistent performance. We also explore what is happening in the world of marketing and AI. There is a lot of noise right now, and it is easy to get distracted. Paul makes it clear that while AI is a powerful tool, it does not replace clear thinking. The fundamentals still matter. You need to understand your ideal client, communicate clearly, and build trust. When your marketing works properly, it creates a steady flow of opportunities, which is a huge step towards being able to stop working in your MSP. We finish the episode with some simple actions that you can take straight away. Paul talks about finding time every day to work on your business. Mit suggests blocking out dedicated time each week for planning. Darren reinforces the importance of accountability and making sure you follow through on what you commit to. When you bring all of this together, planning, leadership, consistency, and accountability, you create a business that no longer relies on you being involved in everything. That is the goal. To stop working in your MSP is about building something with clarity and structure, where the business continues to grow, whether you are there or not. Connect with Mit Patel on LinkedIn HERE and discover more about Assurix HERE. Connect with Darren Strong HERE. You can also visit his website HERE and stream the Scale Up podcast HERE. Connect with Paul Green on LinkedIn HERE. You can also explore his website HERE and tune into his MSP Marketing Podcast HERE. Make sure to check out our Ultimate MSP Growth Guide, a free guide that walks you through a proven process to take your MSP from stuck to scalable, without working even more hours. It's 44 pages rammed with advice, insights and inspiration to help you decide what support is available to you now if you want to grow and scale your business. Click HERE to get your copy. Connect on LinkedIn HERE with Ian and also with Stuart by clicking this LINK And when you're ready to take the next step in growing your MSP, come and take the Scale with Confidence MSP Mastery Quiz. In just three minutes, you'll get a 360-degree scan of your MSP and identify the one or two tactics that could help you find more time, engage & align your people and generate more leads. If you're serious about growth and want to explore what this could look like for your MSP, you can book a Right Fit Clarity Call with us HERE. OR To join our amazing Facebook Group of over 400 MSPs where we are helping you Scale Up with Confidence, then click HERE Until next time, look after yourself and I'll catch up with you soon!

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