The Insurgent Mindset

Success in today’s ever-evolving business landscape demands radically different thinking and actions – what we call Insurgence. In this podcast, you’ll discover how to break free from the limitations of the “incumbent” mindset and transform your business by leveraging the “insurgent” mindset. Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace.

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Monday · 43 min
Taking on Big Sugar: Remedy’s Insurgent Playbook | Episode 46 with William Lawrence
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo sit down with William Lawrence, Commercial Director at Remedy Drinks, to explore the realities of scaling a challenger brand in a market dominated by established giants.From building a category around kombucha to expanding into the mainstream soft drink market with Sodaly, William shares the lessons behind Remedy's growth: including why protecting your core business can be more valuable than chasing every new opportunity, how to innovate without creating unnecessary complexity, and why strategic partnerships and control over your cost base can create a lasting competitive advantage.The conversation also tackles one of the biggest challenges facing growing organisations: how do you introduce the systems, processes and governance needed to scale without losing the agility, culture and entrepreneurial spirit that made you successful in the first place?For leaders navigating disruption, competing against bigger players or planning their next phase of growth, this episode challenges conventional thinking about expansion, innovation and what it takes to stay ahead.-- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace.  Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com.  Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
October 5 · 32 min
Build or Buy? AI Just Changed the Equation | Episode 45
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo explore how AI is reopening one of the oldest questions in enterprise technology: should companies build or buy their software? For decades, the complexity and cost of building custom systems created a powerful moat for enterprise software vendors. AI agents are beginning to weaken that advantage, making customised software faster, cheaper and more adaptable to the way individual businesses actually operate. Matt and Rondo explore what this means for the SaaS model, from the rise of “SaaS bloat” and pressure on general-purpose applications to the emergence of AI-native challengers and outcome-based pricing. They examine why specialised, industry-specific software may prove more resilient, and why simply adding AI features to an existing product may not be enough for incumbents. But the biggest question isn't whether every company should start building its own software. It's which capabilities are strategically important enough to own, and where software can create new value or remove a meaningful constraint on the business. As the economics of enterprise software continue to shift, leaders face a new strategic choice: what should you build, what should you buy, and how quickly should you be willing to change course? -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
September 21 · 42 min
Disruption is Inevitable: Your Old Playbook Is Dead (Here's What Wins Now) | Episode 44
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack why traditional strategies are struggling as AI reshapes the world, customer expectations shift, geopolitical uncertainty grows, and new competition emerges. They explore what happens when outdated assumptions hold organisations back, and why leaders need to rethink how they create value, compete, and adapt. A practical conversation for CEOs, executives, business owners, and strategy leaders navigating a rapidly changing business landscape. Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast challenges you to transcend the status quo and rethink how you compete in today's rapidly changing business landscape. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to The Insurgent Mindset on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and YouTube, and visit www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you'd like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
September 8 · 47 min
Give Your Customers a Seat at the Table | Episode 43 with Simon Elliot
In this episode, Matt and Rondo are joined by Simon Elliot to explore Customer Experience Thinking in the context of theInsurgent Mindset. What does it really mean to understand your customer? How close is your organisation to the people it serves? And what changes when customers become part of the process rather than simply the recipients of an experience? The conversation explores customer proximity, human behaviour, co-creation, customer journey mapping and the role of technology in shaping modern experiences. It challenges leaders to look beyond data and efficiency and consider the human needs, behaviours and relationships that sit behind every customer interaction. Connect with Simon Elliot: https://www.instagram.com/si.elliott/ https://www.linkedin.com/in/si-elliott/ https://www.youtube.com/@TheCustomerExperienceLab https://www.tiktok.com/@customer_experience_lab -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
August 24 · 43 min
The Biggest Mistake Legacy Businesses Make During Disruption | Episode 42 with Ed Harrison
In this episode, Matt speaks with Ed Harrison, an experienced media and publishing executive who has worked across Fairfax Media, Yahoo 7, Isentia and, more recently, the Australian medical publishing sector. Ed has spent much of his career navigating industries undergoing rapid technological and business model disruption. The conversation explores what happens when established competitive advantages begin to disappear. Matt and Ed discuss the collapse of traditional media models, the growing importance of trust and direct customer relationships, why the middle of the market is being squeezed between scale and specialisation, and how AI is creating another major challenge for publishers and content businesses. They also explore how leaders can balance protecting the legacy business that funds the future with investing in what comes next, and why moving too slowly can leave organisations with surprisingly few options. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
August 10 · 26 min
The SaaSpocalypse: Why Companies May Stop Buying Software | Episode 41
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack whether the so-called “SaaSpocalypse” is really a temporary market correction or evidence of a much deeper structural shift. They explore why companies are beginning to replace SaaS tools with AI agents and custom-built systems, how the build-versus-buy equation is changing, and why general-purpose SaaS may face more pressure than specialised solutions. The conversation also examines what incumbent software companies must do to survive, why business models may need to shift from charging per seat toward outcomes, and how CEOs should think differently about software, strategic capabilities and competitive advantage. For leaders making technology and investment decisions today, the question is no longer simply what software to buy — but what capabilities should be built, owned and evolved. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
July 27 · 50 min
Healthcare's New Power Players Won't Be Who You Expect | Episode 40 with Hitesh Vachharajanii
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo sit down with Hitesh Vachharajani, a life sciences executive and founder with almost three decades of experience across pharmaceuticals, medtech and diagnostics. Together they explore why many organisations are applying AI to outdated business models, why efficiency isn't the same as transformation, and why the companies that rethink their operating model, not just automate it, will shape the future. From precision medicine and early disease detection to digital healthcare, clinical trials, patient engagement and the changing economics of healthcare, this conversation explores where the industry is heading and what leaders across every sector can learn from one of the world's most highly regulated industries. Above all, it challenges executives to think like insurgents before they think about technology. You can connect with Hitesh on LinkedIn. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
July 13 · 41 min
The Brutal Truth About Why Great Retailers Fail | Episode 39 with Bernie Brooks
Bernie Brooks has led some of Australia's biggest retailers, built businesses across India, China and Africa, and now advises boards and investors on what separates winners from businesses that slowly disappear. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Bernie joins Matt and Rondo to unpack the future of retail, why Amazon continues to reshape competition, what Kmart understood that Target missed, and why customer obsession has become the defining competitive advantage. The conversation explores AI, supply chains, private label strategy, digital transformation, changing consumer behaviour and the leadership mindset required to thrive in an era where disruption never stops. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
July 12 · 51 min
The Companies That Don't Rebuild Their Workforce Will Disappear | Episode 38 with Lisa Christy
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Lisa Christy joins Matt Tice and Rondo Moses to explore why HR can no longer remain a transactional support function. As AI accelerates the pace of business, organisations must rethink capability, workforce planning, leadership and culture together. The discussion explores why adaptability is becoming more valuable than experience, why CEOs must personally lead AI transformation, and why businesses that fail to build AI capability risk losing both talent and customers. Whether you're a CEO, executive, HR leader or business owner, this conversation challenges long-held assumptions about leadership and offers practical insights into preparing organisations (and people) for an AI-driven future. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice Connect with Lisa Christy on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lisachristyhrdirector/
June 15 · 49 min
The Tokenomics Problem Every CEO Will Soon Face | Episode 37
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack one of the biggest paradoxes shaping business today: why cheaper AI is leading to larger AI bills. They explore token economics, the governance challenges facing boards and CFOs, the risks of uncontrolled AI adoption, and why many organizations are focusing on efficiency while missing the much larger opportunity of value creation. We go beyond cost management to examine a provocative future where AI tokens could become a new asset class, AI-native companies challenge traditional software models, and organizations rethink how value is created. If you're a CEO, executive, board member, or innovation leader trying to understand the economics of AI, this episode offers a framework for thinking beyond automation and toward competitive advantage. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
June 1 · 44 min
Your Annual Planning Process Is Killing Innovation | Episode 36
Every year, leadership teams and boards invest significant time and resources into strategy offsites, planning sessions, and executive retreats. Yet many of these workshops produce little more than incremental improvements, recycled assumptions, and plans that struggle to keep pace with a rapidly changing market. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo challenge conventional thinking around strategic planning and leadership offsites. They explore why most organizations focus too heavily on resource allocation and execution while neglecting the deeper work of questioning assumptions, widening perspectives, confronting uncertainty, and identifying emerging opportunities. From AI disruption and scenario planning to customer involvement and board engagement, this conversation offers practical insights for leaders who want to move beyond annual planning exercises and build more adaptive, resilient, and insurgent organizations. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
May 18 · 47 min
Why Most Leadership Teams Are Already Behind | Episode 35 with Julie Toma
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we sit down with Julie Toma to explore why innovation often dies inside established organizations, how boards can either accelerate disruption or completely block it, and why curiosity, courage, and psychological safety are becoming essential leadership traits in a rapidly changing world. Julie shares insights from her experience across healthcare, marketing leadership, governance, and board strategy — unpacking everything from AI adoption and customer disruption to why fear of failure quietly destroys growth cultures from the inside out. We also dive into the changing role of modern marketing leaders, the growing importance of customer insight and strategic curiosity, and why the best organizations are actively “seeing around corners” before competitors do. This conversation is essential listening for executives, founders, board directors, marketers, and leaders trying to navigate uncertainty without becoming obsolete. Connect with Julie on LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/julietoma/ -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
May 4 · 44 min
The Architecture of Learning, Storytelling, and Challenger Thinking with Jamie Engel | Episode 34
What if the future of learning isn’t about better content—but better design? In this episode, Jamie Engel, founder of Neutopia, breaks down the “architecture of learning” and why most organizations get it wrong. Drawing from a career spanning film, storytelling, and education, he reveals how the convergence of platform, program, and people creates transformational learning experiences—and why storytelling is the most underrated leadership skill in modern business. This conversation explores how leaders can build true learning organizations, harness AI without losing critical thinking, and create cultures driven by curiosity, community, and adaptability. From the hero’s journey as a framework for education to the role of emotion in decision-making, this episode challenges conventional thinking and offers a new blueprint for designing experiences that actually change people—and organizations—for the better. Learn more about Neutopia here: https://neutopia.co/ Connect with Jamie here: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamielengel/ -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
April 20 · 51 min
Your Next Customer Won’t Be Human: Competing in an AI-Driven Market with Katja Forbes | Episode 33
What happens when your next customer isn’t human? We sit down with Katja Forbes (author of Machine Customers) and break down the rapid rise of agentic commerce and what it means for business strategy, customer experience, and competitive advantage. With AI agents already making purchasing decisions and retail agent traffic surging by thousands of percent, the shift is already here, and most leadership teams are underestimating just how fast this transformation is unfolding. This conversation explores how AI-powered buyers are reshaping markets, commoditizing brands, and forcing a rethink of everything from marketing to trust to organizational design. From “algorithmic moats” to value-based differentiation, Katja outlines what it takes to stay competitive when machines, not humans, are evaluating your business. If you’re thinking about AI, digital transformation, or the future of commerce, this episode delivers a clear signal in a world full of noise. Learn more and connect with Katja here: https://www.thecxevolutionist.ai/ -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
April 6 · 43 min
Signal vs Noise: Discernment in a World of Disruption with Stephanie Christopher | Episode 32
In a world defined by constant disruption, the ability to distinguish between signal and noise has become one of the most critical leadership skills. In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, the conversation explores how mid-market leaders are navigating uncertainty, identifying meaningful trends, and making faster, more confident decisions in an increasingly complex environment. Joined by Managing Director of Vistage ANZ, Stephanie Christopher, drawing on her insights from peer advisory networks and real-world leadership experiences, the discussion unpacks how CEOs are evolving their approach to AI, from early curiosity to practical application, and why the real opportunity lies not just in efficiency, but in growth. The episode also explores the ongoing challenges of talent, the realities of a multi-generational workforce, and the importance of strategy and execution in a rapidly shifting market. At the core of the conversation is a deeper leadership capability: discernment. The ability to read signals, trust instinct, absorb diverse perspectives, and act decisively is what separates those who disrupt from those who are disrupted. For leaders looking to stay ahead in 2026, this episode offers a grounded perspective on how to build adaptability, sharpen judgment, and operate with clarity in a noisy world.--Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo MosesProduced by Faith MoavenzadehOriginal Music by Caius Tice Connect with Stephanie: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stephaniechristopherceo/
March 23 · 43 min
Don’t Let Private Equity Catch You with Your Pants Down | Episode 31
Most mid-market CEOs believe they’re building valuable businesses, but when private equity shows up, they quickly discover how much value they’ve left on the table. In this episode, we break down the critical difference between two types of leaders: those who manage for performance, and those who architect for enterprise value. Using a simple example of two identical $5M EBITDA businesses with dramatically different outcomes, the conversation reveals why valuation multiples (not just growth) determine real wealth creation. The episode explores the shift from being a “taker” to a “maker”, from reacting to deals on the back foot to proactively engineering a business that commands premium valuations. From leadership dependency and customer concentration to scalable models, defensible advantages, and buyer-specific value drivers, this is a deep dive into how sophisticated investors think and how leaders can stay ahead of them. Because if you’re not actively building for value, someone else will. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
March 21 · 43 min
An Analysis of the Economic, Political, and Military Impacts of the War in the Middle East | BONUS
In this timely bonus episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Matt and Rondo unpack the economic, political, and military impacts of the ongoing conflict in the Middle East. From rising fuel costs and inflationary pressure to tightening capital and increasing recession risk, the conversation explores how early shockwaves are already affecting global markets and business decision-making. The episode also examines how different actors are playing fundamentally different strategic games - military, political, and economic - and why this misalignment is prolonging uncertainty and complicating any path to resolution. Ultimately, the focus turns to what this means for leaders. In a volatile, supply-constrained environment, success will depend on scenario planning, strategic positioning, and the ability to move decisively while others hesitate. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
March 9 · 49 min
Doing Things Right vs Doing The Right Things | Episode 30
Too often, companies treat efficiency as the goal, focusing on cutting costs and eliminating waste. But productivity is something different entirely: it’s about creating more value for customers and the market. The discussion unpacks how organizations frequently become highly efficient at the wrong things, leaving significant value on the table. Matt and Rondo explore the strategic tension between doing things right (efficiency) and doing the right things (productivity), highlighting why leaders must intentionally allocate limited resources toward activities that increase output and customer value. From AI adoption and workflow redesign to system-wide thinking across operations, finance, and people management, the conversation reveals how companies often optimize individual functions instead of the entire business system, which ultimately limits firm productivity and long-term growth. This episode challenges leaders to rethink their metrics, resource allocation, and operational mindset, shifting away from efficiency for efficiency’s sake and toward value creation, strategic productivity, and sustainable business performance. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
February 23 · 44 min
The Resilience Advantage: Why Future-Proof Businesses Think Beyond Strategy with Renae Hanvin | Episode 29
In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, we sit down with Renae Hanvin, Founder and CEO of Resilient Ready, to explore why resilience is emerging as one of the most critical capabilities for modern organizations. Drawing on her background in crisis management, corporate responsibility, and disaster recovery, Renae shares how her work now focuses on helping small businesses, governments, and enterprises build practical, everyday readiness in the face of disruption, uncertainty, and rapid change. The conversation challenges the traditional view of resilience as a reactive exercise reserved for worst-case scenarios. Instead, Renae outlines how leaders can embed resilience into daily operations through simple, behavior-driven actions, applying principles like the 80/20 rule to prepare for the majority of disruptions - whether economic, technological, or environmental - without creating complex planning frameworks that businesses rarely use. From the role of community connection and “social capital” to the opportunity for organizations to become both more productive and more prepared, this discussion reframes resilience as a strategic advantage. For executives, founders, and operators looking to future-proof their organizations, this episode offers a new lens on leadership, adaptability, and building businesses that are designed to withstand whatever comes next. Connect with Renae Hanvin or read more about Resilient Ready. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice
February 9 · 54 min
Bad News Fast: Building an Insurgent Culture as a First-Time CEO | Episode 28 with Rob Lawrence
What does insurgent leadership really look like when the responsibility sits squarely in the CEO seat? In this episode of The Insurgent Mindset, Rob Lawrence, CEO of Otelier, breaks down the realities of leading through disruption in a laggard industry facing rapid technological change. The conversation explores how hospitality technology is evolving, why SaaS is undergoing a long-overdue reckoning, and how AI is fundamentally reshaping productivity, organizational structure, and competitive advantage. Along the way, Rob shares candid reflections on the loneliness of the CEO role, the importance of moving faster on hard decisions, and how cultures of accountability, recognition, and learning create real leverage in uncertain markets. This episode is a grounded look at challenger leadership, AI strategy, and what it takes to build momentum when markets are choppy and expectations are rising. -- Hosted by seasoned strategy consultants Matt Tice and Rondo Moses, with a combined 50 years of experience, this podcast will challenge you to transcend the status quo and reshape how you think about and approach competing in the business marketplace. Learn more at www.insurgencegroup.com. Subscribe to “The Insurgent Mindset” on Apple Podcasts, Spotify Podcasts or Youtube, and visit us as www.insurgencegroup.com to learn more. Have questions or topics you’d like us to cover in a future episode? Email us at theinsurgentmindset@gmail.com. This podcast is hosted by Matt Tice & Rondo Moses Produced by Faith Moavenzadeh Original Music by Caius Tice

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