The Grey Area

The Grey Area Podcast is a CP Media Production hosted by Gabriel Smilovic, Stella Pyles, and Matthew Blackman - the generation that's figuring it out right now. Three people in their 20s at the intersection of creativity and business, navigating the ambiguous middle where nothing is certain and the rules are being rewritten.

Conversations here reside in the space between - not black, nor white. This isn't a self-help podcast. It's not a news show. It's for people building creative careers who haven't figured it out yet — and aren't pretending they have. We're not here to tell you what to think — we're here to open the floor.