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The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight

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In the golden age of air travel, flying was sold as glamorous, luxurious, and effortlessly chic. But for the young women working the aisles at 30,000 feet, the reality was very different. When Patt Gibbs joined American Airlines in the 1960s, she was trained to be slim, smiling, and subservient. Stewardesses like her were weighed like luggage, forced to retire at 32 years old, banned from marriage, and expected to endure sexual harassment with grace. One extra pound, one birthday too many, or one wedding ring and your wings were clipped. But when Patt walks into a union meeting on a whim, everything changes. The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight tells the story of the stewardesses who refused to be grounded. From secret meetings to landmark discrimination cases to high-stakes union votes, these women challenged America’s biggest airlines and the sexism baked into the industry itself. A powerful sisterhood began to form across cabin aisles and crew lounges. They weren’t just fighting for better contracts. They were fighting for control of their own lives.

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S6 · E6
Today · 43 min
The Girlfriends S6/E6: What’s at Steak
As stewardesses push for dignity at work, everyday encounters expose how deeply power and sexism run in the airline industry. From union politics to moments of personal reckoning, Nell traces how one stewardess is forced to confront the cost of following the rules and the courage required to break them. The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/ You heard archive from an NBC special Report called The Teamsters Union Power, a clip from an ABC News story on Loving v Virginia and a CBS report celebrating the first ATM. SUPPORT ORGANISATIONS United States Mental Health 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – call or text 988, or chat online - https://988lifeline.org/ NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) – education, support groups, and helpline: 1-800-950-6264 - https://www.nami.org/ United Kingdom Mental Health Samaritans – 24/7 phone support at 116 123 - https://www.samaritans.org/ Mind – mental health information and support - https://www.mind.org.uk/ Australia Mental Health Lifeline Australia – 24/7 crisis support: 13 11 14 - https://www.lifeline.org.au/ Beyond Blue – mental health support and helpline: 1300 22 4636 - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/ Canada Mental Health Talk Suicide Canada – call or text 988 (nationwide) - https://988.ca/ Crisis Services Canada – nationwide crisis support network - https://thelifelinecanada.ca/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S6 · E5
September 21 · 44 min
The Girlfriends S6/E5: Wed to the Wings
In the 1960s, marriage could cost a stewardess her job. As a result, United Airlines flight attendant Celeste Brodigan lives a double life, hiding her husband from management. When the truth is discovered, the airline begins watching her every move until Celeste stands up for herself and her marriage, sparking a wider rebellion across the industry. The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/ You heard archive including chanting from the documentary The March by James Blue, a news clip from AP on the Civil Rights Act Of 1964, The National Airlines Commercial: "Fly Me", and a clip from NBC’s Hunter Brinkley Report. SUPPORT ORGANISATIONS United States Mental Health 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – call or text 988, or chat online - https://988lifeline.org/ NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) – education, support groups, and helpline: 1-800-950-6264 - https://www.nami.org/ Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) – hotline 1-800-656-HOPE; also online chat - https://rainn.org Pregnancy, Reproductive Health, Abortion Support All-Options Talkline – non-directive support around pregnancy, parenting, abortion, adoption: 1-888-493-0092 - https://www.all-options.org/find-support/talkline/ Planned Parenthood – medical and counselling services across the US - https://www.plannedparenthood.org/ United Kingdom Mental Health Samaritans – 24/7 phone support at 116 123 - https://www.samaritans.org/ Mind – mental health information and support - https://www.mind.org.uk/ Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence Rape Crisis England & Wales – national helpline and local support centres - https://247sexualabusesupport.org.uk/ The Survivors Trust – specialist sexual violence support https://thesurvivorstrust.org/ Pregnancy, Reproductive Health, Abortion Support BPAS (British Pregnancy Advisory Service) – abortion and reproductive counselling - https://www.bpas.org/ NHS Sexual Health Services – local clinics and counselling - https://www.nhs.uk/nhs-services/sexual-health-services/ Australia Mental Health Lifeline Australia – 24/7 crisis support: 13 11 14 - https://www.lifeline.org.au/ Beyond Blue – mental health support and helpline: 1300 22 4636 - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/ Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence 1800RESPECT – national sexual assault, domestic & family violence counselling service: 1800 737 732 - https://1800respect.org.au/ Reproductive Health / Pregnancy Support Marie Stopes Australia – abortion and reproductive health services + counselling - https://www.msiaustralia.org.au/ Canada Mental Health Talk Suicide Canada – call or text 988 (nationwide) - https://988.ca/ Crisis Services Canada – nationwide crisis support network - https://thelifelinecanada.ca/ Reproductive Health / Pregnancy Support Action Canada for Sexual Health & Rights – sexual health information, abortion access line - https://www.actioncanadashr.org/ Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence The Canadian Association of Sexual Assault Centres (CASAC) – directory of local crisis centres. Ending Violence Association of Canada – provincial crisis lines - https://endingviolencecanada.org/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S6 · E4
September 14 · 44 min
The Girlfriends S6/E4: Wings of Change
In 1950s America, airlines refused to hire Black women as stewardesses. When Patricia Banks Edmiston is repeatedly rejected, she refuses to stay silent. By calling in civil rights leaders and taking on Capital Airlines, Patricia launches a landmark discrimination case that reshapes the skies and the industry. The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/ SUPPORT ORGANISATIONS United States Mental Health 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – call or text 988, or chat online - https://988lifeline.org/ NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) – education, support groups, and helpline: 1-800-950-6264 - https://www.nami.org/ Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) – hotline 1-800-656-HOPE; also online chat - https://rainn.org United Kingdom Mental Health Samaritans – 24/7 phone support at 116 123 - https://www.samaritans.org/ Mind – mental health information and support - https://www.mind.org.uk/ Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence Rape Crisis England & Wales – national helpline and local support centres - https://247sexualabusesupport.org.uk/ The Survivors Trust – specialist sexual violence support https://thesurvivorstrust.org/ Australia Mental Health Lifeline Australia – 24/7 crisis support: 13 11 14 - https://www.lifeline.org.au/ Beyond Blue – mental health support and helpline: 1300 22 4636 - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/ Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence 1800RESPECT – national sexual assault, domestic & family violence counselling service: 1800 737 732 - https://1800respect.org.au/ Canada Mental Health Talk Suicide Canada – call or text 988 (nationwide) - https://988.ca/ Crisis Services Canada – nationwide crisis support network - https://thelifelinecanada.ca/ Sexual Harassment, Sexual Violence The Canadian Association of Sexual Assault Centres (CASAC) – directory of local crisis centres. Ending Violence Association of Canada – provincial crisis lines - https://endingviolencecanada.org/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S6 · E3
September 7 · 47 min
The Girlfriends S6/E3: The Golden Age
In the 1960s, stewardesses were forced to retire at 32, no matter their skill or experience. When Patt Gibbs and her colleagues publicly challenge the age rule, they confront a culture that values women only while they look young. The fight turns personal when a beloved mentor is quietly pushed aside. The archive you heard included the commercial “the Air Strip” from Braniff International and a 1963 television address by President John F. Kennedy on civil rights from John F. Kennedy Library Foundation. The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/ You can listen to new episodes of The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. SUPPORT ORGANISATIONS United States Mental Health 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – call or text 988, or chat online - https://988lifeline.org/ NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) – education, support groups, and helpline: 1-800-950-6264 - https://www.nami.org/ United Kingdom Mental Health Samaritans – 24/7 phone support at 116 123 - https://www.samaritans.org/ Mind – mental health information and support - https://www.mind.org.uk/ Australia Mental Health Lifeline Australia – 24/7 crisis support: 13 11 14 - https://www.lifeline.org.au/ Beyond Blue – mental health support and helpline: 1300 22 4636 - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/ Canada Mental Health Talk Suicide Canada – call or text 988 (nationwide) - https://988.ca/ Crisis Services Canada – nationwide crisis support network - https://thelifelinecanada.ca/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S6 · E2
August 31 · 41 min
The Girlfriends S6/E2: Losing It
Behind the cocktails and movie stars, stewardesses’ jobs depended on staying under strict weight limits. When Patt Gibbs is suspended for gaining a few pounds, a company doctor hands her diet pills with potentially dangerous consequences. As women push their bodies to extremes, Patt begins to fight back and discovers how costly defiance can be. You heard archive from the documentary The Rise of Labor from the CIA collections of the U.S. National Archives. The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/ You can listen to new episodes of The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. SUPPORT ORGANISATIONS United States Mental Health 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – call or text 988, or chat online - https://988lifeline.org/ NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) – education, support groups, and helpline: 1-800-950-6264 - https://www.nami.org/ Eating Disorders NEDA (National Eating Disorders Association) – helpline chat, screening tool, and resources - https://www.nationaleatingdisorders.org/ United Kingdom Mental Health Samaritans – 24/7 phone support at 116 123 - https://www.samaritans.org/ Mind – mental health information and support - https://www.mind.org.uk/ Eating Disorders & Body Image BEAT Eating Disorders – helpline, online chat, and resources - https://www.beateatingdisorders.org.uk/ Australia Mental Health Lifeline Australia – 24/7 crisis support: 13 11 14 - https://www.lifeline.org.au/ Beyond Blue – mental health support and helpline: 1300 22 4636 - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/ Eating Disorders & Body Image Butterfly Foundation – helpline + online chat for eating disorders: 1800 33 4673 - https://butterfly.org.au/ Canada Mental Health Talk Suicide Canada – call or text 988 (nationwide) - https://988.ca/ Crisis Services Canada – nationwide crisis support network - https://thelifelinecanada.ca/ Eating Disorders NEDIC (National Eating Disorder Information Centre) – helpline and online chat https://nedic.ca/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S6 · E1
August 24 · 43 min
The Girlfriends S6/E1: On Air
In the golden age of flying, air travel looked glamorous, but for the women working onboard, it was tightly controlled. Nell McShane Wulfhart takes us inside American Airlines’ “Charm Farm” where young stewardesses, like Patt Gibbs, were trained to be thin, obedient, and perfectly groomed. But everything changes after Patt impulsively attends a union meeting. The archive you heard was the 1967 commercial “Presenting the Losers” by Eastern Air Lines. The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/ You can listen to new episodes of The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. SUPPORT ORGANISATIONS United States Mental Health 988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – call or text 988, or chat online - https://988lifeline.org/ NAMI (National Alliance on Mental Illness) – education, support groups, and helpline: 1-800-950-6264 - https://www.nami.org/ United Kingdom Mental Health Samaritans – 24/7 phone support at 116 123 - https://www.samaritans.org/ Mind – mental health information and support - https://www.mind.org.uk/ Australia Mental Health Lifeline Australia – 24/7 crisis support: 13 11 14 - https://www.lifeline.org.au/ Beyond Blue – mental health support and helpline: 1300 22 4636 - https://www.beyondblue.org.au/ Canada Mental Health Talk Suicide Canada – call or text 988 (nationwide) - https://988.ca/ Crisis Services Canada – nationwide crisis support network - https://thelifelinecanada.ca/ See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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August 17 · 3 min
Introducing The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight
In the golden age of air travel, flying was sold as glamorous, luxurious, and effortlessly chic. But for the young women working the aisles at 30,000 feet, the reality was very different. The Girlfriends: Flight or Fight tells the story of the stewardesses who refused to be grounded. From secret meetings to landmark discrimination cases to high-stakes union votes, these women challenged America’s biggest airlines and the sexism baked into the industry itself. A powerful sisterhood began to form across cabin aisles and crew lounges. They weren’t just fighting for better contracts. They were fighting for control of their own lives. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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August 10 · 41 min
Relisten to The Girlfriends: Spotlight: Nadya & Pussy Riot Punk the President
Re-listen to the best of The Girlfriends: Spotlight: When Nadya Tolokonnikova saw her country Russia change under President Vladimir Putin’s authoritarian regime, she knew she had to do something. She started the iconic ski-mask-wearing art protest collective Pussy Riot. On February 21st, 2012, they performed their anti-Putin protest song, Punk Prayer, in a Moscow church, launching Nadya into overnight activist fame… and a prison labour camp. The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit Novel.Audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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August 3 · 43 min
Relisten to The Girlfriends: Spotlight: Hélène Outwits the Nazis
Re-listen to the best of The Girlfriends: Spotlight: Germany. Spring 1945. The writing is on the wall for the Nazis. And thousands of women are marching along dirt roads. If they stop walking, they’ll be shot. Their route is lined with piles of corpses. It’s a death march. Among these women are The Nine. Nine young women, all members of the French resistance, who have formed an extraordinary bond of friendship and support in the concentration camp in which they’ve been held. Their unofficial leader is 25-year-old Hélène Podliasky. And she’s about to suggest something incredible: The Nine are going to escape. Hélène’s story is told by her great niece, the writer Gwen Strauss. The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit novel.audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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July 27 · 49 min
Relisten to The Girlfriends: Spotlight: Lu Ann Escapes the Order
Re-listen to the best of The Girlfriends: Spotlight: When Lu Ann Cooper was just fifteen years old, she was told to drop out of school and marry her first cousin. She would be his fourth wife. Lu Ann grew up inside the so-called Kingston Clan, a religious sect where, Lu Ann claims, every man is expected to have many wives, and every woman is expected to have many children. All with the aim of building up the Kingdom of God. But one day, Lu Ann couldn't take it anymore. She decided she had to escape… The foundation Lu Ann runs to support other people who have fled polygamy is Hope After Polygamy. The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit Novel.Audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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July 20 · 40 min
Relisten to The Girlfriends: Spotlight: Rose Solves, At Least, 86 Cold Cases
Re-listen to the best of The Girlfriends: Spotlight: Rose Brady’s job running Baltimore County’s SVU was a frustrating one. The sexual violence crimes she and her team were investigating were just the tip of the iceberg. Her department was sitting on thousands of unsolved rape cases, dating back decades - with little hope of ever finding the perpetrators. That was until Rose made an incredible discovery: At a local hospital, a diligent forensic pathologist had kept in storage all the biological evidence from every rape exam he had ever performed. This could be the key to getting justice for hundreds of desperate women. This is a story of hard work, dogged persistence and a series of incredible coincidences… Rose has her own show with her daughter, Sam: Sgt. Brady's Crime Podcast (not affiliated with The Girlfriends: Spotlight): https://podfollow.com/1560081982 If you’ve been affected by sexual violence, there are organisations which can help. In the US: https://www.nsvrc.org/survivors In the UK: https://survivorsnetwork.org.uk/get-help/ The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit Novel.Audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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July 13 · 38 min
The Girlfriends: Spotlight, E24: Sucheta Exposes the Big Bull
In 1992, the Bombay Stock Exchange in India was skyrocketing. And at the centre of this chaotic, testosterone fuelled world was Harshad Meta: a man with aviator shades, a Lexus, and a reputation as a financial wizard. To millions, he was "The Big Bull," a self-made hero who promised wealth to anyone who followed his lead. But Sucheta Dalal, one of the only female journalists covering the financial markets, wasn’t buying the hype. When she started digging into Harshad Meta, she uncovered something explosive. She had 24 hours to get to the bottom of it - with her career, and the fate of the Indian economy on the line. This is the story of how one dogged journalist exposed a scam so big it sparked a financial revolution. The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit novel.audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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#23
July 6 · 38 min
The Girlfriends: Spotlight, E23: Anna Catches a Catfish
Anna Rowe thought she’d found the perfect man: attentive, caring and totally devoted to his children. But Anna gradually started to suspect that things weren’t quite what they seemed… Her doubts led her to some late night dating app sleuthing. What Anna discovers will unravel everything she thought she knew about love, trust, and the man she was madly in love with. And it will set her on a path to save thousands of women from romance fraud. The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit novel.audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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#22
June 29 · 36 min
The Girlfriends: Spotlight, E22: Carolyn Builds a Wisterhood
On Valentine's Day 2000, Carolyn Moor's life changed forever when a hit-and-run accident killed her husband Chad. She was left a widow in her 30s - and with two young daughters to raise alone. And she discovered that when you’re a young widow, there’s not very much support - especially not the sort of support you need to get through the long years of grief-stricken child rearing. So, Carolyn founded The Modern Widows Club - dedicated to enabling women of all ages and backgrounds to embrace life after widowhood. She calls it ‘a wisterhood’. Plus we hear from the nurse who witnessed Carolyn’s darkest moment, and used it to fight for positive change. The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit novel.audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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June 22 · 1 min
The Girlfriends: Spotlight Is Back...
The number 1 hit true crime series is back with more women fighting crime, battling injustice and seriously kicking ass. In The Girlfriends: Spotlight, our global gang of girlfriends grew to include Pussy Riot’s punk icon and political prisoner Nadya Tolokonnikova, British Nigerian beauty queen and founder of Miss Trans Global, Miss saHHara and ‘The Erin Brockovich of East Africa’, environmental activist Phyllis Omido. Now host Anna Sinfield returns with more incredible stories. The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit Novel.Audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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#21
June 22 · 31 min
The Girlfriends: Spotlight, E21: Morrell Breaks the Ban
When Morrell Andrews’s attacker was convicted of her sexual assault, she thought her fight was over. But it was just beginning. Because in Canada, where Morrell lives, ‘Publication Bans’ were enshrined in law. These bans meant that no one, including the survivor themselves, is allowed to publicly name the victim of a sexual offense. Effectively, if Morrell talked about her story in the press, or on her own social media - or even if she texted her friends or emailed her therapist about it - she could face a criminal conviction and a fine. Morrell wasn’t going to stand for that. With the support of a group of other survivors, she began an extraordinary legal and media battle to change the Canadian criminal code forever… The Girlfriends: Spotlight is produced by Novel for iHeartPodcasts. For more from Novel visit novel.audio See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S5 · E10
June 15 · 26 min
The Girlfriends S5/Bonus Ep 4: How to Catch a Con-artist
Why did it take law enforcement so long to pay proper attention to Derek Alldred’s pattern of fraud against women all over the country? In bonus episode four, Anna takes a deep dive into the investigation that finally brought Derek down, and the shortcomings of the many that came before. In this four part mini-series, we take a deep dive into our archive of never before heard interviews, to take a closer look at the key themes that underpinned Trust Me Babe. If you’re affected by any of the themes in this show, our charity partners NO MORE have available resources at https://www.nomore.org. To learn more about romance scams, and to access specialised support, visit https://fightcybercrime.org/ The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/. You can listen to new episodes of The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “iHeart True Crime+, and subscribe today! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S5 · E9
June 8 · 26 min
The Girlfriends S5/Bonus Ep 3: Blazing Lies
When Derek Alldred was finally convicted in 2017, it was far from his first run-in with the law. In fact, more than a decade earlier, he found himself in the crosshairs of one determined California fire investigator, named Tom Oldag, who suspected him of a very different kind of fraud. In bonus episode three, Anna takes a deep dive into one strand of Derek Alldred’s colourful criminal history. Featuring real archival recordings from Captain Tom Oldag’s extensive investigation. In this four part mini-series, we take a deep dive into our archive of never before heard interviews, to take a closer look at the key themes that underpinned Trust Me Babe. If you’re affected by any of the themes in this show, our charity partners NO MORE have available resources at https://www.nomore.org. To learn more about romance scams, and to access specialised support, visit https://fightcybercrime.org/ The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/. You can listen to new episodes of The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “iHeart True Crime+, and subscribe today! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S5 · E8
June 1 · 28 min
The Girlfriends S5/Bonus Ep 2: Help! My Bestie’s Dating a Scam Artist
Confronting your bestie’s terrible boyfriend about his toxic behaviour can be tempting, but is it always the best course of action? How do you strike a balance between protecting your friend from becoming isolated, and being honest with them about your fears? In bonus episode two, Anna talks to social worker - Jen Lawrence - to learn more about the red flags of romance scammer behaviour, and what you can do about them. In this four part mini-series, we take a deep dive into our archive of never before heard interviews, to take a closer look at the key themes that underpinned Trust Me Babe. If you’re affected by any of the themes in this show, our charity partners NO MORE have available resources at https://www.nomore.org. To learn more about romance scams, and to access specialised support, visit https://fightcybercrime.org/ The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/. You can listen to new episodes of The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “iHeart True Crime+, and subscribe today! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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S5 · E7
May 25 · 29 min
The Girlfriends S5/Bonus Ep 1: Get Back Down Here Off Your High Horse
In the years leading up to Derek’s conviction, his victims sometimes came forward to the media about their experiences. But when they did so, the reaction from the public wasn’t always sympathetic. In bonus episode one, Anna takes a closer look at the stigma that surrounds romance fraud with journalist Rachel Monroe, who covered Derek’s sentencing for The Atlantic back in 2018. In this four part mini-series, we take a deep dive into our archive of never before heard interviews, to take a closer look at the key themes that underpinned Trust Me Babe. If you’re affected by any of the themes in this show, our charity partners NO MORE have available resources at https://www.nomore.org. To learn more about romance scams, and to access specialised support, visit https://fightcybercrime.org/ The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe is produced by Novel for iHeart Podcasts. For more from Novel, visit https://novel.audio/. You can listen to new episodes of The Girlfriends: Trust Me Babe completely ad-free and 1 week early with an iHeart True Crime+ subscription, available exclusively on Apple Podcasts. Open your Apple Podcasts app, search for “iHeart True Crime+, and subscribe today! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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