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The Fraud Boxer Podcast

Jordan Harris

A podcast for fraud prevention, payments, and cybersecurity professionals, hosted by people who work in the industry every day. Jordan Harris hosts, alongside co-hosts Cambria Valente ("Fraud Focus") and Jacqueline Chilton ("Payments Corner"). We bring real, hands-on experience to every conversation, along with sharp questions for our guests and honest takes on the trends shaping the industry.

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  • S5 · E107
    September 3 · 49 min

    The State of Fraudcasting

    Solution providers across payments and fraud prevention are launching shows right now, and that is a good thing. More voices in this space means more people learning out loud. Jordan sits down with Brian Davis to talk about what it actually takes to keep one running. This one is less about fraud and more about the machine behind the content: setting goals before you set a budget, getting marketing and the C suite aligned on what an episode is supposed to do, and what happens when a sponsor expects conversions from a campaign that was built for awareness. Brian brings the demand gen and community perspective. Jordan brings four years of running a show as a team of one. They get into the guest pool question nobody plans for, where a fraud cast should plant its flag in the funnel, why the attribution argument tends to sort itself out, and how different production models all end up working for different goals. Jordan also walks through his gear stack and the specific choices that make a show look and sound the way he wants, including the piece of equipment most people skip. If you run marketing at a vendor, host a show, appear on webinars, or are thinking about pointing a camera at yourself for the first time, there is something in here worth stealing. Topics covered: Founder led and executive led content strategy Podcast sponsorship goals, CTAs, and realistic expectations First touch and last touch attribution in B2B payments marketing Why enterprise merchants weigh fraud podcast invitations carefully Editorial independence when your show and your employer share a space Recording podcasts on the conference floor Microphones, mirrorless cameras, lighting, and audio levels for video Editing workflows, distribution, and why consistency beats production value Equipment Mentioned and Suggested: Sony a6700 - https://a.co/d/03P0tsuf Shure MV7+ - https://a.co/d/03P0tsuf Shure SM7dB - https://a.co/d/03P0tsuf Fifine Mic - https://a.co/d/03P0tsuf Other mentions: Interface for mic to computer - https://a.co/d/0fCRRpiK Cloudlifter (not needed for Sm7dB only SM7B regular) - https://a.co/d/07HYP75U Sony ZVE-10 (non usb 4k) - https://a.co/d/07HYP75U ------------------------------------ This episode is brought to you by ⁠WhoBilled.me⁠. Ever seen a charge on your statement like "POS CHECK CARD PURCHASE DEBIT * SUPERCELL" and had no idea what it was? Merchants get about 25 characters to identify themselves, your bank wraps its own labels around that, and a location field gets stapled on the end. The result reads like a ransom note — so people dispute their own kids' in-game purchases and shrug off the charges that were actually fraud. Paste the descriptor into ⁠https://WhoBilled.me⁠ and find out who really billed you, how to reach them, and what the charge was probably for.

  • S5 · E106
    August 19 · 57 min

    AI Fraud Detection Is Now a Commodity — Here's What Actually Wins

    Everyone in fraud and risk is building AI agents. Almost nobody is asking the harder question: if every team has access to the same models, what's left that's actually yours? In this episode of Fraudboxer, Jordan sits down with Richard Meng, founder and CEO of Roe AI (YC-backed, San Mateo), and Tal, an 18-year risk leader who has built and scaled programs across fintech, payments, lending, issuing, marketplaces, and merchant environments. Together they make the case that AI itself is becoming a commodity — and that the real competitive advantage is structured risk knowledge: the fraud typologies, investigation frameworks, and institutional expertise that live in your team's heads, in Jira tickets, and in Slack threads where no agent can reach them. The conversation covers why single signals like velocity, device mismatch, and risky IP no longer mean what they used to; why fraud teams stay permanently reactive; what happens to entry-level analyst roles as AI absorbs L1 work — and what new roles replace them; whether rules and machine learning models are dying or just getting a makeover; and why the sub-300ms reality of real-time fraud decisioning means an LLM is never going to be the thing that blocks a transaction. They also get into the idea of an open, industry-wide fraud typology map — a shared taxonomy of attack patterns and recommended investigations that any team's AI agents could consume. Not a data consortium, not PII sharing, and not the kind of closed, invite-only working group that leaves newer practitioners out in the cold. Whether that can actually get built is the open question of the episode. If you work in fraud, risk, compliance, AML, trust and safety, or payments — or you manage a team that does — this one reframes what "using AI" actually means. As Jordan puts it: most people say they use AI, but they're reading AI, not using it. The fraudsters figured out the difference a while ago. WHAT'S COVERED Why AI models are becoming a commodity, and contextual intelligence is the real moat Fraud typologies - ATO, ACH fraud, friendly fraud, push payment fraud, triangulation schemes, return abuse, promo abuse - and why each needs its own investigation path The medicine analogy - why the diagnostic framework beats raw intelligence Velocity, device mismatch, and risky IP - signals that no longer mean fraud on their own What happens to L1 analyst roles, and the new jobs that get created instead Are rules dead? A story from inside Uber's rules engine and the Grafana dashboard that showed fraudsters reverse-engineering rules in real time Why sub-300ms decisioning means rules and ML models aren't going anywhere Rule performance monitoring - the thing almost nobody actually does How Roe AI is building a shared financial crime knowledge base, and whether it should be an open standard Where fraudsters are already outpacing defenders on AI adoption LINKS Roe AI: ⁠https://www.roe-ai.com⁠ Roe AI careers (they're hiring, including SMEs): ⁠https://www.roe-ai.com/careers⁠ Richard Meng on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/berkeleymeng/⁠ Tal Yeshanov on LinkedIn: ⁠https://www.linkedin.com/in/talyeshanov/⁠ WhoBilled.me: ⁠https://whobilled.me⁠ This episode is brought to you by ⁠WhoBilled.me⁠. Ever seen a charge on your statement like "POS CHECK CARD PURCHASE DEBIT * SUPERCELL" and had no idea what it was? Merchants get about 25 characters to identify themselves, your bank wraps its own labels around that, and a location field gets stapled on the end. The result reads like a ransom note — so people dispute their own kids' in-game purchases and shrug off the charges that were actually fraud. Paste the descriptor into ⁠https://WhoBilled.me⁠ and find out who really billed you, how to reach them, and what the charge was probably for.

  • S1 · E105
    June 30 · 39 min

    The Frightening New Way Scammers Are Using AI

    "In crypto, if your money's gone from your wallet, everything can be gone in one second immediately." Most people picture online scams as one person in a basement sending sketchy emails. The reality is far bigger and far more organized. In this episode, recorded at the Safeguard conference in Colorado Springs, host Jordan sits down with Nikita, co-founder and CEO of ⁠Chain Patrol⁠, to talk about how modern fraud actually works. We get into why stolen crypto almost never comes back, how scam operations now run like real companies with engineers and developers, and how artificial intelligence has made sophisticated attacks cheap enough to target everyday people instead of just high-value executives. Nikita also opens up about the human cost behind these operations, including trafficking victims forced to run scams against their will, and a documentary his team has been quietly working on. We also discuss one of the largest crypto thefts in history, how the attackers pulled it off, and why the weakest point in nearly every story is a person rather than a piece of code. Whether you work in fraud and security or you just want to understand how to keep yourself and your family safe, this one is packed with stories you have not heard and warnings you will want to remember. Visit ChainPatrol to learn more: ⁠https://chainpatrol.com⁠ V I D E O S T O W A T C H N E X T Think you can't be scammed? Think again: https://youtu.be/bAwpKd2IlGo From CIA to Cyber Intelligence: 2026 Cyber Intelligence Predictions! https://youtu.be/3gPkMfPU31c -------------------------------------------- 🛡️ A massive thank you to today’s sponsor, Incognia! IP addresses are constantly rotating, masked by VPNs, or spoofed by fraudsters, leaving fraud and risk teams completely in the dark about web traffic. Incognia’s ⁠https://hubs.li/Q04hKHN30⁠ -------------------------------------------- "The education itself becomes a vector of attack in some ways." -------------------------------------------- Inquiries: sponsorships@fraudboxer.com --------------------------------------------

  • S5 · E104
    June 15 · 36 min

    The Dark Web’s Biggest Secret: Why Traditional Fraud Tools Simply Don't Work Anymore

    "Fraudsters move upstream... We aimed all of our fraud prevention at the checkout. Where did they go? Upstream to the account access." Ever wonder how cybercriminals manage to stay one step ahead of digital security? In this episode, Alexander Hall from ⁠IPQS⁠ takes you behind the scenes while we were at the Safeguard Conference in Colorado. Many businesses focus all their security energy purely on the final checkout page, but the threat landscape is shifting fast. We talk about the hidden traps currently being set across the internet, why traditional security scores often miss the big picture, and how the industry is fighting back. If you want to know how your data is being targeted—and the clever network setups being used to stop attackers before they ever reach a real user—this conversation is a must-watch. Whether you run an online business, work in tech, or just want to understand how the underground economy works, this interview offers a fascinating look into the future of online safety. Checkout ou IPQS here: ⁠https://www.ipqualityscore.com⁠ -------------------------------------------- ➡️ Did you catch the biggest takeaway from our IPQS interview? Fraudsters have moved upstream. They aren’t just hitting your checkout page anymore; they are targeting user accounts, deploying human-like bots, and exploiting stolen identities long before a payment is ever made—meaning that if you rely on traditional post-transaction chargeback data, you are already 90 days too late. That is where IPQS comes in (⁠www.ipqualityscore.com⁠). Trusted by Fortune 500 companies, IPQS uses a global network of over 10,000 live dark web honeypots and real-time Fraud Fusion™ technology to instantly flag account takeovers, malicious residential proxies, and sophisticated botnets before the damage is done. With fully customizable dashboard risk sliders, you can easily adjust your scoring models for IP reputation, device fingerprinting, and email age based exactly on your business needs. Stop chasing chargebacks and start stopping bad actors on Day 1—visit ⁠www.ipqualityscore.com⁠ today to protect your platform! -------------------------------------------- "Stolen identities are being used to create businesses, and I personally cannot imagine a level higher than that." -------------------------------------------- Inquiries: sponsorships@fraudboxer.com -------------------------------------------- #fraudprevention #cybersecurity #digitalsecurity #onlinefraud #cyberattacks #identitytheft #dataprotection #secureaccount #safeguard #techtrends #cybercrime #phishingscams #dataprivacy #internetsafety #riskmanagement #threatdetection #networksecurity #ecommercesafety #frauddetection #hackers #onlinesafety #businesssecurity #securitytrends #infosec #scamprevention #digitaldefense #cyberdefense #fraudfighters #hackprevention #datasecurity #onlinebusiness #cybersecurityawareness #techsecurity #accountsecurity #fraudmanagement #identityprotection #privacyprotection #cyberthreats #onlinesecurity #businessprotection #fraudrisk #securitystrategy #cyberrisk #safeguardconference #itsecurity #corporatecard #muleaccount #accounttakeover #digitalfraud #fraudtrends

  • S5 · E103
    June 9 · 45 min

    Your Customer Just Filed a Chargeback… And Took the Product Too!

    "Something which is really nice with Visa is that for every problem that they create, they have a solution for it, but you just need to pay for it..." What happens when an impromptu honeymoon scroll on Instagram leads to a complete career pivot into the world of fraud prevention? In this episode of Fraud Boxer, Jordan Harris sits down with Ben Herut, Chief of Staff at Chargeflow, to unpack the complex, fast-moving ecosystem of payment risk and dispute resolution. From the hidden operational burdens that merchants face during a chargeback surge to the psychological toll of fighting friendly fraud, this conversation breaks down why traditional methods just aren't cutting it anymore. If you've ever wondered how major financial shifts correlate directly to a rise in payment disputes, Ben's inside look from both the issuer and acquirer sides provides a rare, dual-perspective view of the industry. The core of the discussion centers around the evolution of Visa's Compelling Evidence rule, shifting from its original framework to the newly updated standards. Jordan and Ben debate the strict timelines merchants now have to navigate, the nuances of cross-merchant and cross-acquirer data tracking, and how the massive looming shadow of the Visa Acquiring Monitoring Program (VAMP) changes the math for ecommerce businesses. Instead of relying on generic tech hype, the episode explores how actual data science, real-time intelligence, and post-payment risk modeling can save a business from losing both its revenue and its physical products. Stick around until the end to hear predictions on agentic commerce, changing network protocols, and how modern banking apps have made it almost too easy for good customers to act bad. V I D E O S T O W A T C H N E X T : How MAG is helping merchants fight back: https://youtu.be/TKMyDL6ydiI Why do your sales skills suck? https://youtu.be/JLMqz0ls4gU -------------------------------------------- 🛡️ A massive thank you to today’s sponsor, Incognia! IP addresses are constantly rotating, masked by VPNs, or spoofed by fraudsters, leaving fraud and risk teams completely in the dark about web traffic. Incognia’s Verified IP Location fixes this. Instead of relying on outdated ISP records, Incognia infers IP locations dynamically using real-world device observations to give you a live, unmaskable location layer for every single web session. Catch ATOs from unexpected regions and stop VPN spoofing without hurting your good users. Learn exactly where your web traffic is actually coming from here: https://hubs.li/Q04hKHN30 -------------------------------------------- "Anytime that you see a surge of chargebacks, you could correlate it to a financial event in a person's life..." -------------------------------------------- Inquiries: sponsorships@fraudboxer.com -------------------------------------------- #FraudBoxer #Chargeflow #FraudPrevention #FriendlyFraud #ChargebackManagement #ChargebackMitigation #PaymentFraud #EcommerceFraud #FraudDetection #RiskManagement #DisputeResolution #ChargebackDefense #FirstPartyFraud #CompellingEvidence #CE30 #VisaRules #VAMP #VisaAcquiringMonitoringProgram #MastercardRules #MerchantCompliance #3DSecure #OrderInsight #EcommerceBusiness #OnlineRetail #MerchantServices #EcommerceTips #BusinessOperations #RetailTech #SubscriptionBusiness #PhysicalGoods #RevenueRecovery #ProfitMargins #Fintech #PaymentProcessing #PaymentGateway #Acquirer #MerchantAccount #DigitalPayments #FintechTrends #PaymentOrchestration #CardNotPresent #BNPL #DataScience #MachineLearning #AgenticCommerce #TechInBusiness #PredictiveAnalytics #DataIntelligence #BusinessHacks #RetailProblems #EntrepreneurLife #InsideTheIndustry

  • S5 · E102
    May 11 · 49 min

    Think You Can’t Be Scammed? Think Again. (The New AI Reality)

    "We’re well past the point of just saying, 'We’re going to write killer rules and be fast.' We’re in a different space now—it’s time to grow." Ever wonder how the digital cat-and-mouse game has changed since the early days of the internet? In this episode of Fraud Boxer, host Jordan Harris sits down with Seth Ruden from ⁠Transmit Security⁠ to pull back the curtain on the evolution of cybercrime. From the "wild west" of manual list scrubbing and high-stakes bank breaches to the modern era of automated identity theft, they explore why the old ways of catching bad guys are dead. You’ll learn why modern security is shifting "left"—stopping the threat at the front door before a single dollar ever moves. The conversation takes a deep dive into the next frontier of risk: Agentic AI and the rise of sophisticated social engineering. Seth breaks down the "Australian Model" that's actually winning the war on scams and explains why your digital identity is the most valuable currency you own. Whether you’re curious about how AI "cockroaches" operate or want to know how banks are using predictive intent to shield customers from romance and investment scams, this episode is a masterclass in staying one step ahead of the code -------------------------------------------- ➡️ Special thanks to Incognia for making this episode possible and providing the cutting-edge technology needed to ground digital identity in the physical world. To learn more about how they utilize persistent device IDs to stay ahead of sophisticated evasion tactics like app reinstalls and factory resets, visit ⁠https://www.incognia.com/blog/incognias-network-graph-persistent-device-id-for-faster-fraud-investigations⁠ -------------------------------------------- "Is fraud just, at its core, an identity problem?" -------------------------------------------- #CyberSecurity #FinTech #IdentityAccessManagement #FraudPrevention #AI #Infosec #DigitalIdentity #FraudDetection #TechTalk #IAM #Siam #FraudRisk #SocialEngineering #AccountTakeover #ATO #ScamAlert #OnlineSafety #Authentication #ZeroTrust #TransactionSecurity #CyberCrime #RiskManagement #DataProtection #FraudSquad #CyberResilience #IdentityTheft #AgenticAI #MachineLearning #GenAI #FutureOfTech #AIforGood #PredictiveAnalytics #Automation #AIsafety #SmartSecurity #TechInnovation #AIStrategy #BankingSecurity #EcommerceFraud #FinServ #CyberAwareness #DigitalTransformation #OpenBanking #CustomerExperience #IdentitySecurity #PaymentSecurity #AustraliaTech #CyberStrategy #TransmitSecurity

  • S5 · E101
    April 27 · 29 min

    How Major Retailers are Winning the Payments War

    "In the end, we’re all trying to make a better way for consumers to shop. We want those transactions to be completed in the most easy, efficient manner possible." Unlock the secrets of the payments industry as John Drechny, CEO of the Merchant Advisory Group (MAG), joins the show to share how collaboration between major retailers drives massive innovation. From the surprising origin story of how Walmart and other giants teamed up to form their own advocacy powerhouse to the real-world impact of eliminating antiquated chargeback rules, this conversation explores how merchants are finally getting a seat at the table with networks and legislators. You will discover how collective influence is shaping the future of AI in retail, the push for faster payment competition like FedNow, and why the simple act of networking can solve the most complex technical hurdles. Whether you are a seasoned professional or new to the space, this episode provides an insider look at how the MAG is simplifying the consumer shopping experience and advocating for a more efficient global marketplace. Links from the video: Merchant Advisory Group (MAG) - https://www.merchantadvisorygroup.org John Drechny - https://www.linkedin.com/in/john-drechny-480b962 -------------------------------------------- ➡️ Special thanks to Incognia for making this episode possbile and providing the cutting-edge technology needed to ground digital identity in the physical world. To learn more about how they utilize persistent device IDs to stay ahead of sophisticated evasion tactics like app reinstalls and factory resets, visit https://www.incognia.com/blog/incognias-network-graph-persistent-device-id-for-faster-fraud-investigations

  • April 22 · 30 min

    MacBooks for Free? The Hidden Loophole Costing Merchants Billions

    Another one LIVE from the MRC 2026 show floor in Las Vegas, this episode breaks down the high-stakes battle against digital deception with Super.com’s Allen Newton and the Joe Midtlyng from Incognia. Uncover why an incredible 90% of digital goods fraud might actually originate from your own users and how "fraud as a service" allows anyone to launch massive attacks without technical skills. From AI deepfakes tricking ID checks to a bold "personal opinion" on how to finally penalize first-party fraudsters, this talk reveals the hidden war happening behind every click. Watch to see how top platforms use agentic tech and device signals to stay ahead of the curve and protect their bottom line. Special thanks to Incognia for making this episode possbile and providing the cutting-edge technology needed to ground digital identity in the physical world. To learn more about how they utilize persistent device IDs to stay ahead of sophisticated evasion tactics like app reinstalls and factory resets, visit https://www.incognia.com/blog/incognias-network-graph-persistent-device-id-for-faster-fraud-investigations

  • S5 · E100
    April 13 · 50 min

    What Happens in Vegas... Stays in Your Risk Strategy: The Biggest Bombshells from MRC 2026!

    "The great thing about the MRC is the way merchants come together to talk about the real issues of fraud and risk in an environment where they’re not competing with each other." In this episode of the Payments Corner Jacqueline and Jordan step into the future of fraud prevention with this deep dive into the highlights of MRC Vegas 2026, where industry leaders tackle the explosive rise of Agentic AI and its impact on digital commerce. This episode goes beyond the hype to explore the critical shift from viewing fraud as a purely payments-based problem to recognizing it as an intricate challenge of identity and permissioning. Discover how top merchants are collaborating to dismantle sophisticated "Liar Buyer" schemes and organized fraud rings that utilize "Fraud-as-a-Service" tools to scale policy abuse at an alarming rate. From the nuances of global payment strategies to the strategic implementation of passkeys and AI-driven operations, this discussion reveals the actionable insights needed to protect your platform while maintaining a seamless user experience for good customers. Special thanks to ⁠Incognia⁠ for sponsoring this episode and providing the cutting-edge technology needed to ground digital identity in the physical world. To learn more about how they utilize persistent device IDs to stay ahead of sophisticated evasion tactics like app reinstalls and factory resets, visit ⁠https://www.incognia.com/blog/incognias-network-graph-persistent-device-id-for-faster-fraud-investigations

  • S5 · E99
    March 30 · 39 min

    Fraud Focus: Is Your Store Ready for AI? The 'Invisible' Traffic Filling Your Queues

    Check if your app is vulnerable to cloning attacks at www.incognia.com/fraudboxer "20% of all of the CNP transactions that we saw, like purchases that were processed on our network, were AI-related in some way." Coming at you from MRC Las Vegas 2026, Jordan and Cambria are back on the mics and break down the shifting world of agentic commerce and its impact on digital fraud prevention. We explore the move from traditional machine learning to AI-driven decisions and highlighting the risks merchants face with identity loss and liability in automated checkout flows. This discussion offers an inside look at how industry leaders are building orchestration layers to secure autonomous shopping while balancing consumer ease with modern security protocols. Buy Cambria's AI Demon Hunters Mug: https://fraud-boxer.sellfy.store/p/fraud-fighting-demon-hunters/ -------------------------------------------- ➡️ Don't let fraud eat your margins. Join the companies moving beyond passwords and pins. Visit www.incognia.com to learn how to protect your platform and your users today. Big thank you to them for making this episode possible!

  • March 25 · 29 min

    Why Your "Secure" Account is a Fraudster’s Playground (Live at the Incognia Booth!)

    Visit ⁠https://www.incognia.com/fraudboxer⁠ to request a free vulnerability test In this special episode filmed live at MRC 2026 in Las Vegas, Jordan sits down with Andre Ferraz, CEO of Incognia, and Steven Coates, Ticketmaster's Director of Global Fraud Prevention, to dissect the evolving landscape of Account Takeover (ATO) attacks. The discussion centers on how modern ATOs have shifted from simple credential theft to sophisticated schemes where the account itself holds more value than a stolen credit card. You will learn why traditional security measures like SMS-based 2FA are increasingly vulnerable to SIM swapping and phishing, and how grounding digital identity in physical location behavior can provide a 99.9% accurate, frictionless authentication experience. By leveraging "smart friction" and indoor location intelligence, platforms can effectively distinguish between a legitimate user setting up a new device and a professional fraudster, ultimately reducing ATO rates to zero. Ready to see where your own mobile application might be vulnerable to these sophisticated attacks? Visit https://www.incognia.com/fraudboxer to request a free vulnerability test and discover the hidden gaps in your current security stack. Whether you are battling organized device farms or looking to reduce user friction, this expert assessment will help you stay one step ahead of the fraudsters. Steven Coats: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steven-coats-32b19b57/ André Ferraz: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreferraz/

  • March 23 · 31 min

    How One Fraudster Created 100,000 Accounts (LIVE from the Incognia Booth at MRC 2026)

    Visit ⁠incognia.com/fraudboxer ⁠to request a free vulnerability test! In the first session filmed at MRC 2026 in Las Vegas, host Jordan Harris is joined by Andre Ferraz, CEO of Incognia, and fraud expert Dajana G. from Wolfe LLC to dive deep into the multi-million dollar world of promo and refund abuse. While many companies focus on credit card fraud, this discussion reveals how sophisticated bad actors use app cloners, device farms, and "Fraud as a Service" tools to scale policy abuse into a professionalized business model. You will learn why traditional device fingerprinting is failing, how fraudsters reverse-engineer security signals, and why grounding digital identity in physical location is the only way to stop 100,000-account bot rings from eroding your margins. This must-watch interview provides a strategic roadmap for fraud fighters looking to bridge the gap between marketing growth and platform integrity in an AI-driven landscape. Ready to see where your platform is most at risk? Visit ⁠https://www.incognia.com/fraudboxer⁠ to request a free vulnerability test and discover the hidden gaps in your current mobile security stack. Whether you’re battling promo hunters or organized device farms, this is your chance to get ahead of the fraudsters with an expert assessment of your app's defenses. Guests: Dajana G - CP Fraud Strategy at The Wolfe Companies - https://www.linkedin.com/in/dajanagp André Ferraz - CEO and Founder of Incognia - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreferraz

  • S5 · E98
    March 9 · 25 min

    AI Fools Humans But Can't Fool Physics | Here's Why

    Request Your Free Vulnerability Test: https://www.incognia.com/fraudboxer "The amount of investment going toward generating deep fakes is so much bigger than the investment in defending against them; it’s an asymmetrical and impossible challenge." In this episode I sit down again with André Ferraz, CEO and CO-Founder of Incognia, to explore a revolutionary approach to security: shifting the focus from detecting AI to verifying what is grounded in the physical world. As generative AI makes it nearly impossible to distinguish between real and fake digital media, the battle has become asymmetrical. Ferraz explains that while AI can spoof voices, faces, and documents, it cannot replicate a human’s "world line", or the unique trajectory an individual moves through in physical space and time. By leveraging advanced 3D location intelligence and the ecosystem of physical hardware we carry, such as smartwatches and phones, and how Incognia creates an identity signal based on pure physics. This strategy moves beyond point-in-time checks to analyze behavioral consistency, ensuring that a user’s digital presence matches their real-world environment. André Ferraz - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreferraz Incognia: www.incognia.com ---------------------------- #FraudPrevention #AIFraud #Deepfakes #CyberSecurity #IdentityVerification #FraudAsAService #Incognia #FinTech #DigitalIdentity #GenerativeAI #MachineLearning #SocialEngineering #PhishingPrevention #VoiceSpoofing #Biometrics #OnlineSecurity #FraudDetection #TechTrends #FutureOfFraud #DeviceFingerprinting #LocationIntelligence #SmartDevices #CyberCrime #IdentityTheft #Authentication #FraudFighters #AIRevolution #DigitalSafety #DataProtection #AccountTakeover #DeviceFarms #SyntheticIdentity #PhysicalWorldIdentity #WorldLine #IndoorLocation #3DMapping #MobileSecurity #AppSecurity #TechInnovation #FraudBoxer #AndreFerraz #JordanHarris #SecurityStrategy #ScamAlert #DigitalTrust #AIAgents #AutomationFraud #UserVerification #NetworkSecurity #RiskManagement

  • S5 · E97
    March 2 · 36 min

    Is Your App Fueling the Fraud Supply Chain?

    Request Your Free Vulnerability Test: https://www.incognia.com/fraudboxer "You have entire businesses built around fraud. Many of these people aren't even committing the crime; they’re just building the software for the fraudsters." In this episode of Fraud Boxer, Jordan Harris sits down with Andre Ferraz, CEO and Co-founder of Incognia, to pull back the curtain on the booming Fraud as a Service (FaaS) economy. We move beyond basic surface-level threats to discuss the sophisticated supply chain of hardware and software like app cloners, device farms, and GPS spoofing tools that allow bad actors to automate and scale attacks with professional efficiency. Ferraz explains how these tools, often disguised as legitimate developer resources, enable massive "buy for you" schemes and welcome bonus abuse. You will learn why traditional device fingerprinting and GPS signals are no longer enough to stop modern fraudsters and how location-based behavioral biometrics can ground digital signals in the physical world to identify even the most elusive device resets and bot rings. André Ferraz - https://www.linkedin.com/in/andreferraz Incognia: www.incognia.com ---------------------------- #FraudAsAService #FraudPrevention #CyberSecurity #FinTech #AppCloners #DeviceFarms #IdentityTheft #OnlineFraud #FraudBoxer #Incognia #DigitalIdentity #GPSSpoofing #AccountTakeover #FraudDetection #CyberCrime #RiskManagement #AppSecurity #MobileFraud #BonusAbuse #EcommerceSecurity #TechTalk #FraudIntelligence #InformationSecurity #PaymentFraud #AntiFraud #DigitalSecurity #BotDetection #CyberSecurityAwareness #Authentication #IdentityVerification #SoftwareSecurity #CyberRisk #FinTechSecurity #MachineLearning #LocationIntelligence #DeviceFingerprinting #MoneyLaundering #AccountProtection #SafeTech #FraudTrends #TechInterview #DataPrivacy #CyberDefense #ApplicationSecurity #MuleAccounts #RetailFraud #ScamAlert #TrustAndSafety #MobileAppSecurity #SecurityStrategy

  • S5 · E96
    February 23 · 56 min

    Navigating the Fintech Conference Circuit in 2026

    "Bring product people to conferences. That’s what sells more than a BDR wearing a vest." In this episode we welcome back Brian Davis to discuss the strategic side of the fraud and fintech conference circuit. Moving beyond simple networking, the conversation highlights how to prioritize meetings based on contract size, the evolving dress codes of the industry, and the distinct differences between traditional massive conferences and intimate, practitioner-led retreats. Brian shares his transition from the practitioner to the vendor side, offering a unique look at how companies plan their booth presence and why "double opt-in" meetings are becoming the gold standard for high-value networking. From the nuances of curated industry events like Safeguard to the logistics of navigating major shows like MAG and MRC, this episode provides a professional roadmap for making the most of conference season without the burnout. Safeguard Events Colorado Event: https://www.safeguardevent.com Brian Davis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/briandavis21/

  • S5 · E95
    February 9 · 1 hr 10 min

    Your Best Customer Is a Bot? The Wild Reality of Agentic AI

    "The worst part about agentic commerce is that, unfortunately, these are the best customers you will ever get. These people are 100% intending to purchase." This episode features a deep dive into the future of agentic commerce, exploring how autonomous AI agents are moving beyond simple searches to actually making purchases on behalf of consumers. Robbie MacDiarmid from CMSPI joins me to discuss the technical challenges of securing bot-driven transactions, and the necessity of new payment protocols to handle this automated traffic. We examine the friction between traditional fraud prevention, which has spent years trying to block bots, and a new reality where these agents might actually be a merchant's most valuable, high-intent customers. From biometric authentication and "proof of work" to the potential for AI to handle the "toil" of daily life like grocery shopping and doctor appointments, this conversation provides a professional look at how the fintech landscape must adapt to a world where bots, not humans, are clicking the buy button.

  • S5 · E94
    January 26 · 50 min

    No One is Talking about the Downsides of Agentic AI

    Get your free guide to ready your business for Agentic AI from DataDome here: https://rb.gy/v3bc27 "It’s not as dumb as the original bots that were just repeating an action. The agent will see that you’re releasing a new security feature and adapt in hours. It changes the way you fight." In this episode we sit down with industry veteran Simon Marchand from DataDome to discuss the rapidly evolving landscape of Agentic AI and its impact on digital commerce. As we navigate 2026, the shift from basic bots to autonomous AI agents is transforming how consumers shop, but it is also handing fraudsters a powerful new toolkit. Simon shares his 16-year journey from bank practitioner to evangelizing advanced security technologies, explaining why businesses must adapt to this new revenue stream without falling victim to high-speed, automated attacks. The conversation covers the critical balance between welcoming legitimate AI agents—the high-intent buyers of the future—and defending against sophisticated schemes like deepfake identity theft and automated refund abuse. Simon introduces three pillars for modernizing your defense: implementing edge-based technology to verify agent intent, breaking down the silos between cybersecurity and fraud teams, and upskilling talent to handle AI-driven threats. Whether you are a small merchant or an enterprise leader, this episode provides a roadmap for securing your business in the age of agentic commerce. Visit www.datadome.co to learn more about how they can help you in this fight today! Also don't forget to get your free guide to ready your business for Agentic AI from DataDome here: https://rb.gy/v3bc27

  • S5 · E94
    January 12 · 49 min

    From CIA to Cyber Intelligence: 2026 Cyber Intelligence Predictions!

    Get the 2026 Predictions Report: ⁠HERE⁠ Cybersecurity expert and former CIA analyst Adam Darrah from ZeroFox joins us to share critical insights from their new ⁠industry forecast ⁠on the evolving threat landscape through 2026. We discuss how professionalized criminal groups and nation-state actors are moving beyond simple scams to execute sophisticated operations that blend human psychology with high-tech automation. While the rise of gen AI has simplified the process for attackers to create believable social engineering campaigns, the most significant shift lies in the hybrid approach where technology handles the heavy lifting of data discovery before human specialists step in to finalize the exploit. We also provide a rare look at the strategic motivations behind ransomware and the shifting dynamics of the dark web, offering a professional perspective on why traditional security measures must adapt to combat more calculated, economically driven digital threats. Enjoy!

  • S4 · E93
    Dec 29, 2025 · 46 min

    Holiday Special: Talking Fraud with Brian Davis 2025!

    "They just build what they think we want, and most of the time it’s not what we want." In this Holiday Special episode Brian Davis is BACK to discuss the evolving landscape of webinars, networking, and the fraud prevention industry. We explore the importance of live interactions, the upcoming May retreat focused on high-level networking, and the shifts in market conversations. We also get into the challenges faced by solution providers, the cyclical nature of orchestration, and personal updates, including Brian's new role and future aspirations for this show. We even talk about insights on effective sponsorship strategies and the importance of customization in marketing efforts. Enjoy! Checkout Safeguard to register for the Colorado event mentioned in the episode: https://www.safeguardevent.com/

  • S4 · E92
    Dec 22, 2025 · 28 min

    Payments Corner: Money 20/20 Recap!

    "Now to watch crypto move into stablecoin as opposed to cryptocurrency, it really seems to be moving stablecoin into the main stage." Jacqueline and Jordan both attended Money 20/20 this year in Vegas! We discuss our experience there in this episode of payments corner and how we feel it marked a pivotal shift for the financial industry as it moved from theoretical hype to tangible execution. The conference highlighted how financial technology is being rebuilt around this core infrastructure, transitioning from simple automation to "agentic commerce" where autonomous AI agents manage entire shopping cycles, from discovery to secure payment. Beyond AI, the passage of stablecoin legislation has catalyzed a new era of "programmable money," leading major institutions like Western Union to launch their own digital payment tokens for faster, 24/7 cross-border settlements. As these instant payment rails become the global baseline, the focus has intensified on building an "architecture of trust"—replacing static security with adaptive, AI-driven fraud prevention and "Know Your Agent" (KYA) frameworks to safely manage autonomous financial interactions.

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