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Jusman So

The Endurance Lab Podcast is a long-form conversation series exploring training, nutrition, performance, recovery, and endurance sport through the lens of long-term health and longevity.

Designed for midlife runners and endurance athletes who care about improving performance without sacrificing long-term well-being, each episode features thoughtful, evidence-based conversations with experts across endurance sport, including researchers, coaches, and specialists in specific areas of performance, alongside midlife athletes who’ve achieved meaningful performance breakthroughs later in life.

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  • #29
    Yesterday · 1 hr 25 min

    The Fastest Way to Become a Fat Adapted Runner After 40 (According to Science)

    Can you become a highly fat-adapted runner without going fully keto — and without sacrificing your ability to use carbohydrates when performance demands it? In this episode of The Endurance Lab, I sit down with exercise and nutritional physiology researcher Matt Carpenter to unpack the science of fat adaptation for endurance runners, including runners over 40. We explore what being “fat adapted” actually means, why fat adaptation is a spectrum rather than an on/off switch, and whether a ketogenic or low-carbohydrate diet is really necessary to increase fat oxidation. Matt explains how endurance training, mitochondrial capacity, carbohydrate availability and diet interact to determine how much fat you can oxidize during exercise. We also discuss how quickly fat oxidation can change, why becoming better at burning fat doesn’t automatically improve performance, and how going too far with carbohydrate restriction could reduce your metabolic flexibility and ability to perform at higher intensities. Most importantly, we get practical. Matt explains how recreational runners training around 5–7 hours per week can use carbohydrate periodization, low-carbohydrate meals and selected fasted training sessions to improve fat oxidation — while strategically using carbohydrates around hard training and racing. We also dive into Matt’s research on keto-adapted athletes and carbohydrate supplementation, including why strategically introducing carbohydrate around exercise may improve performance without necessarily undoing the adaptations developed through a low-carbohydrate diet. If you’re interested in becoming a more fat-adapted runner, ketogenic diets for endurance athletes, metabolic flexibility, fasted training, carbohydrate periodization, fat oxidation, endurance nutrition or how to fuel your running after 40, this conversation brings the science together without taking a dogmatic “high-carb vs keto” position. ➡️ Join The Endurance Lab Inner Circle on Telegram 👉 https://t.me/TheEnduranceLabInnerCircle 🔥 FIND YOUR TRUE ZONE 2 WITH TYMEWEAR Tymewear Vita Pro measures your breathing in real time to identify your individual physiological thresholds and help you train at the intensity you actually intend to train at. ➡️ Endurance Lab listeners SAVE $100 OFF the Tymewear Pro Training membership Code: E-LABTW26 👉 https://www.tymewear.com/E-LABTW26 ➡️ Listen to my conversation with TimeWear founder Anar Larson: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/episode/5sz25EZjGUHoGSaA38nHwM CHAPTERS 0:00 How to Become Fat Adapted 1:23 Do You Need Keto? 4:21 What Fat Adaptation Means 5:52 Mitochondria and Fat Oxidation 7:57 Fat Adaptation Is a Spectrum 10:18 Do You Need Ketosis? 15:31 Strategic Carbohydrate Use 20:17 Do Carbs Undo Fat Adaptation? 23:56 Long-Term Keto Adaptation 30:59 Fueling Long Runs on Keto 35:39 How Quickly Can You Adapt? 40:01 Diet vs Endurance Training 42:36 Fat Adaptation on 5–6 Hours 45:04 Metabolic Flexibility 49:11 Maximizing Fat AND Carbs 54:58 Train Low, Race High 57:17 Matt’s Carbohydrate Study 1:00:20 When to Use Carbohydrates 1:07:10 Keto vs High Carb: Who Wins? 1:12:29 Does Fasted Training Work? 1:16:19 Practical Fat-Adaptation Strategy 1:18:36 Why a Hybrid Approach Works 1:23:31 What Endurance Means to Matt LINKS & RESEARCH Matt Carpenter — University of Northampton: https://www.northampton.ac.uk/directories/people/matt-carpenter/ Matt Carpenter — Research Profile / Publications: https://pure.northampton.ac.uk/en/persons/matt-carpenter/ Matt Carpenter — Instagram @mattendurancescientist Carpenter, Brouner & Spendiff (2024) — Carbohydrate Supplementation Improves Ultra-Endurance Performance in a Keto-Adapted Individual: https://hrcak.srce.hr/ojs/index.php/kinesiology/article/view/27167 Volek et al. (2016) — Metabolic Characteristics of Keto-Adapted Ultra-Endurance Runners: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26892521/

  • #28
    August 22 · 34 min

    From 100kg to Running a 100-Mile World Record

    ➡️ Join The Endurance Lab Inner Circle on Telegram 👉 https://t.me/TheEnduranceLabInnerCircle Aleksandr Sorokin went from weighing around 100 kilograms, smoking, drinking alcohol, and living an unhealthy lifestyle to becoming one of the greatest ultrarunners in the world. In this episode of The Endurance Lab, Aleksandr shares how he transformed his life, lost the weight, discovered ultrarunning, and eventually broke multiple world records in his 40s. His achievements include: 🏃 100 km world record — 6:05:35 🏃 100 mile world record — 10:51:39 🏃 6-hour world record — 98.496 km 🏃 12-hour world record — 177.410 km 🏃 24-hour world record — 319.614 km He became the first runner to break the 11-hour barrier for 100 miles, and during that same race he also set the 12-hour world record. What makes Alexander’s story even more remarkable is that he did not begin running seriously until around age 32. Before that, after finishing his earlier sporting career in kayaking, he says his lifestyle became unhealthy — alcohol, cigarettes, poor food choices, and his body weight climbed to around 100 kg. Running initially started as a way to lose weight. Then he discovered ultra-running. A few years later, he was winning major races. By his early 40s, he was breaking world records. Alexander explains how his training evolved from roughly 60–80 km per week to peak weeks around 250–300 km, why long runs of 30–50 km became the foundation of his training, how he uses interval sessions to maintain speed as he gets older, and why recovery has become increasingly important in his mid-40s. We also discuss what runners over 40 can learn from his progression, why starting later does not necessarily mean your best running years are behind you, and how consistency, training variety, mileage and simply loving the process have shaped his career. For masters runners, recreational runners, marathoners and ultrarunners, Alexander’s journey is a powerful example of how dramatically running performance can change even when you start later in life. ➡️ Save $100 on Tymewear Pro Training Membership Code: E-LABTW26 👉 https://www.tymewear.com/E-LABTW26 ➡️ Listen to my conversation with TimeWear founder Anar Larson: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/episode/5sz25EZjGUHoGSaA38nHwM 00:00 From 100 kg to running 1:35 Alexander’s world records 2:50 His life before running 5:43 From weight loss to world records 7:18 Did he ever expect to become elite? 10:01 Strength training and cross-training 11:03 Starting running in his 30s 12:52 Can runners still improve after 40? 16:54 How his training volume evolved 20:56 How his speed training changed with age 24:16 Mileage vs structured training 25:29 When he reached his peak 28:46 How runners over 40 can still improve 29:39 What recreational runners can learn from him 31:21 Heart rate vs pace 33:08 What to do when your best years feel behind you

  • #26
    August 21 · 1 hr 9 min

    Lactate Gels: The Next Generation of Sports Gels? (Science Explained)

    ➡️ Join The Endurance Lab Inner Circle on Telegram👉 https://t.me/TheEnduranceLabInnerCircle In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Aitor Viribay, co-founder of FLF (From Lab to Field), to discuss the science behind exogenous lactate—why elite cycling teams are suddenly interested in it, how it compares with carbohydrates and ketones, and whether drinking lactate could become the next major breakthrough in endurance fueling. We discuss: • Why lactate is no longer considered the "bad guy" • How exogenous lactate works inside the body • Whether lactate is actually a preferred fuel over glucose • How it compares with ketones • Whether it could improve endurance performance • Possible effects on the brain, recovery and fatigue • Why the science is still in its early stages • What athletes should realistically expect today If you've been hearing rumours about pro cycling teams using lactate during races, this episode explains the science directly from one of the researchers developing the technology. ➡️ Save $100 on Tymewear Pro Training Membership Code: E-LABTW26 👉 https://www.tymewear.com/E-LABTW26 ➡️ Listen to my conversation with TimeWear founder Anar Larson: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/episode/5sz25EZjGUHoGSaA38nHwM 🏃 5K, 10K, Half & Full Marathon Training Plans 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/training-plans 🎓 Exclusive Discounts & Resources 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts Exolactate Learn more about Exolactate and FLF: https://flf.shop Research website: https://exolactate.com 00:00 Why lactate may be the body's preferred fuel 01:00 Why elite athletes are suddenly interested in exogenous lactate 05:11 Is lactate where ketones were a few years ago? 08:08 How Aitor became interested in lactate research 10:17 How carbohydrates become lactate 12:14 Which organs actually use lactate? 14:12 Why lactate gets "VIP treatment" in the body 20:40 Is lactate a by-product of carbohydrate oxidation? 22:05 Where lactate fits among carbohydrates, fat and ketones 25:20 What happens after you drink exogenous lactate? 29:43 Is exogenous lactate different from natural lactate? 31:16 What's actually inside Exolactate? 38:04 Is exogenous lactate safe? 40:37 Does exogenous lactate bypass the cost of producing lactate? 42:26 Lactate, buffering and fatigue 45:40 Can lactate break through the carbohydrate ceiling? 47:25 Does lactate make carbohydrates work better? 49:51 Will lactate replace carbohydrates? 50:36 Lactate vs ketones 52:25 Training vs racing with exogenous lactate 55:07 Which athletes benefit the most? 57:38 Could lactate reduce central fatigue? 58:25 Recovery benefits 59:41 Why creating an exogenous lactate gel was so difficult 1:05:00 How much lactate do athletes actually need? 1:08:42 The biggest takeaway about exogenous lactate 1:09:33 What endurance means to Aitor

  • #25
    August 14 · 1 hr 26 min

    The Science of Muscle Cramps and How to Prevent Them

    In this episode of The Endurance Lab Podcast, I sit down with Dr. Kevin Miller, one of the world's leading researchers on exercise-associated muscle cramps. We dive into the latest science behind muscle cramping, why the traditional dehydration theory doesn't fully explain what happens, and Dr. Miller's new Multifactorial Theory of Muscle Cramping. Dr. Kevin Miller is a Professor and Athletic Trainer at Texas State University. He is the Director of the Heat Emergency Assessment and Treatment (H.E.A.T) Lab in the Department of Health and Human Performance. His research expertise includes the causes, treatments, and prevention of exertional heat illnesses with a specific emphasis on exercise-associated muscle cramping and exertional heatstroke. He has published over 75 peer-reviewed manuscripts and given over 120 presentations on exertional heat illnesses. He has Chaired or co-authored 5 different official heat illness position statements including the 2021 NATA Roundtable on the Prehospital Care of Exertional Heatstroke and the 2015 NATA Position Statement on Exertional Heat Illness. He is a Fellow of the NATA, Associate Editor for the Journal of Athletic Training, member of the Korey Stringer Institute’s Medical and Science Advisory Board, and consultant to schools, hospitals, Universities, and companies for his expertise in heat-related illness. ➡️ Dr. Kevin Miller: For consultancy-related assistance on heat or muscle cramping, you can contact Dr. Miller at kmconsultingtx@gmail.com. ➡️ Save $100 on Tymewear Pro Training MembershipCode: E-LABTW26 👉 https://www.tymewear.com/E-LABTW26 ➡️ Listen to my conversation with TimeWear founder Anar Larson: 👉 https://open.spotify.com/episode/5sz25EZjGUHoGSaA38nHwM 🏃 5K, 10K, Half & Full Marathon Training Plans 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/training-plans 🎓 Exclusive Discounts & Resources 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts We also discuss: • What actually causes muscle cramps • Why stretching works immediately • Why dehydration isn't the whole story • Whether electrolytes actually matter • Bananas, pickle juice, tonic water and salt tablets • Heat vs cold environments • Why elite athletes still cramp • How to prevent cramps • What to do when a cramp strikes • The surprising science behind vinegar and pickle juice • Practical advice every endurance athlete should know 00:00 Introduction 02:21 What actually causes muscle cramps? 06:02 Nervous system vs muscle — where do cramps start? 09:02 Why Kevin started researching muscle cramps 12:00 Why cramps become so painful 14:59 The Multifactorial Theory of cramping 18:07 Does dehydration actually cause cramps? 24:37 Do electrolytes matter? 31:00 Why stretching stops cramps 32:35 Hydration vs cramp prevention 40:45 Exercise cramps vs night cramps 43:21 Do bananas prevent cramps? 46:04 Does pickle juice really work? 53:19 Coconut water and muscle cramps 57:53 Heat, cold and cramping 01:02:30 How to prevent muscle cramps 01:08:48 Does conditioning reduce cramping? 01:11:08 Best way to treat a cramp 01:17:43 Recovery after exercise 01:21:13 The biggest takeaway 01:22:33 Biggest mistakes athletes make 01:25:07 What endurance means to Dr. Kevin Miller #MuscleCramps #Endurance #Running #Triathlon #SportsScience #ExerciseScience #Hydration #Electrolytes #Marathon #UltraRunning #Cycling #Performance #EnduranceLab

  • #24
    August 7 · 1 hr 28 min

    Hypoxic Training: The Science of Getting Faster With Less Oxygen

    Can training in low oxygen actually make you a faster runner without adding more training hours? In this episode of The Endurance Lab, I speak with Dr. Barney Wainwright, Senior Research Fellow at Leeds Beckett University, about the science of hypoxic (altitude) training and why many elite endurance athletes now use it to break through performance plateaus. We discuss how hypoxic training works, whether it actually improves sea-level performance, the physiological adaptations behind altitude training, and whether an altitude generator is worth the investment for recreational runners and cyclists. If you've reached a plateau despite consistent training, this episode explains why hypoxic training may be one of the few remaining tools capable of producing meaningful physiological adaptations that traditional training cannot. 🫁 Save $100 on Tymewear Pro Training Membership Code: E-LABTW26 👉 https://www.tymewear.com/E-LABTW26 🫁 10% Off ISOCapnic BWB Device Code: JusmanSo 👉 https://shop.isocapnic.com?sca_ref=10462834.lsRLwaoT7WUNdYI 🏃 5K, 10K, Half & Full Marathon Training Plans 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/training-plans 🎓 Exclusive Discounts & Resources 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts 🫁 Customised hypoxic and heat training programs by Dr. Barney Wainwright and his team at Leeds Beckett University Health and Performance Hub: https://www.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/carnegie-school-of-sport/health-and-performance-hub/ In this episode you'll learn: • How hypoxic training improves endurance performance • The difference between central and peripheral adaptations • Why elite athletes use altitude training • Whether altitude tents, masks and generators actually work • Heat training vs hypoxic training • How to choose the right hypoxic training method • Whether a $3,000 altitude generator is actually worth the investment Connect with The Endurance Lab 📩 Email: jusman@theendurancelab.run 00:00 Why hypoxic training isn't cheap—but can be worth it 00:53 Can low oxygen training actually make you faster? 03:48 What is hypoxic (altitude) training? 06:02 Different types of altitude training explained 07:18 Natural altitude vs simulated altitude 09:43 What counts as moderate and high altitude? 11:32 What actually happens inside your body at altitude? 15:00 Acute vs long-term adaptations to hypoxia 21:35 Red blood cells, EPO and oxygen delivery 24:05 Muscle adaptations beyond red blood cells 30:17 Does altitude training improve sea-level performance? 41:39 Why altitude generators are so practical 46:56 Biggest misconceptions about hypoxic training 52:17 Can smartwatches accurately measure SpO₂? 54:11 Heat training vs hypoxic training 1:06:00 Best hypoxic training equipment for recreational athletes 1:11:46 Breathing devices, respiratory muscle training & breath holds 1:17:43 Blood flow restriction training 1:22:21 What's the best investment for endurance performance? 1:25:01 Altitude generator or carbon wheels? 1:26:46 What endurance means to Dr. Barney Wainwright

  • #23
    July 31 · 1 hr 16 min

    Do Exogenous Ketone Supplements Work Better Than Keto Diet?

    Why Ketone Supplements Work Better for High-Carb Runners 🫁 Save $100 on Tymewear Pro Training Membership Code: E-LABTW26 👉 https://www.tymewear.com/E-LABTW26 Most runners assume that if ketones are beneficial, the athletes already producing the most ketones naturally would benefit the most from ketone supplements. But the science suggests something more complicated. In this episode of The Endurance Lab, I sit down with ketone researcher Dr. Jonathan Little to break down the surprising differences between nutritional ketosis and exogenous ketones — and why ketone supplements may actually make more sense for high-carb endurance athletes than runners following a ketogenic diet. We discuss: - Why taking ketone supplements is NOT the same as being in ketosis - The difference between endogenous ketosis and exogenous ketones - Why ketone supplements raise insulin and suppress fat burning - Why keto-adapted runners may get less benefit from ketone supplements - Whether ketone esters can actually improve marathon performance - The truth about ketones as the “fourth macronutrient” - Ketone supplements vs carbohydrates for endurance performance - Whether high-carb runners should consider ketone esters - The potential role of ketones in recovery, glycogen replenishment, inflammation, sleep, and brain health Jonathan Little has spent over a decade researching ketones, ketogenic diets, metabolic health, insulin resistance, and exercise physiology. His work helps separate the hype around exogenous ketones from what the science actually shows. 00:00 Ketone Research Background 01:48 Endogenous vs Exogenous Ketosis 07:02 Why Supplements Reduce Fat Burning 08:14 Metabolic Health Benefits Compared 10:48 Keto Weight Loss Explained 13:48 Keto vs High Carb For Runners 20:52 Sports Gels Metabolic Risk 27:10 Types of Ketone Supplements 33:18 D vs L BHB Differences 36:07 BHB Thresholds and Tradeoffs 38:51 Acute vs Sustained Ketone Dosing 40:21 Ketogenic Marathoner Scenario 46:11 High Carb Athlete Reality Check 48:43 Recovery and Adaptation Focus 50:53 Why Performance Can Drop 53:46 Practical Advice for Runners 54:52 Recovery Benefits Breakdown 01:00:02 Brain and Inflammation Potential 01:08:46 Metabolic Health Takeaways 01:09:56 Defining Endurance Closing

  • #22
    July 24 · 1 hr 30 min

    Effortless Speed: Technique To Run Faster With Less Effort | Paul Mackinnon

    In this episode, I sit down with running biomechanics coach Paul Mackinnon to break down the science behind efficient running technique. After completing a one-on-one running form analysis with Paul, I completely changed how I think about running mechanics. We discuss why over 95% of runners leak energy through inefficient movement, why improving your running form can improve running economy, reduce injury risk, and help you run faster using the same fitness. We cover arm swing, cadence, heel striking, midfoot striking, overstriding, ground contact time, vertical oscillation, running economy, biomechanics, force production, and the simple cues that helped me immediately feel lighter and more effortless while running. ► The Core Program of Cues - https://www.tbrunner.com/membership/ ► Code: ELP (for 25% off your first month) Connect with Paul Mackinnon ► Website: https://www.tbrunner.com/ ► YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/thebalancedrunner ► Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thebalancedrunner/?hl=en In this episode* Why running form matters * How biomechanics affect running economy * Why physics determines efficient running * The biggest running form mistakes * Why most runners overstride * Heel strike vs midfoot strike * Does cadence really matter? * Ground contact time explained * Vertical oscillation explained * Why arm swing is the most misunderstood part of running * The connection between arm swing and knee drive * Why elite runners move differently * Running efficiency vs running economy * How better running mechanics can reduce injuries * The easiest running form cue anyone can implement today Timestamps 00:00 Why arm swing is so important 01:12 My running form breakthrough after working with Paul 02:42 Why running form actually matters 04:01 Does better running form improve running economy? 06:20 How to change your running technique safely 09:17 Structural asymmetry vs movement asymmetry 12:44 The biggest running form mistakes 16:32 Running form and injury risk 18:20 Why self-awareness is the first step 22:13 Why arm swing changes everything 25:58 The real purpose of your arms while running 29:27 Why lifting—not pushing—is the secret 32:41 Perfect arm swing explained 35:03 The truth about vertical oscillation 42:13 Heel strike vs midfoot strike 48:15 The biggest myth about cadence 53:31 Ground contact time explained 59:40 Why your torso should stay quiet 1:04:34 Why elite runners use their glutes 1:13:10 What happens during a running form analysis 1:19:49 The easiest running cue to improve immediately

  • #21
    July 17 · 1 hr 24 min

    The Most Accurate Way To Find ZONE 2 | Arnar Lárusson

    Anar Larsson from Tymewear explains why heart rate, pace, power, and even lactate can mislead runners when trying to find their real physiological Zone 2. They often end up training in Zone 3 instead. We talk about VT1, VT2, ventilation, fat oxidation, durability, and why many endurance athletes accidentally train too hard even when they think they are doing easy aerobic training. 🫁 Save $100 on Tymewear Pro Training Membership Code: E-LABTW26 👉 https://www.tymewear.com/E-LABTW26 🫁 10% off Isocapnic BWB DeviceCode: JusmanSo 👉 https://shop.isocapnic.com?sca_ref=10462834.lsRLwaoT7WUNdYI 🏃 5K, 10K, Half & Full Marathon Training Plans 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/training-plans 🎓 Exclusive Discounts & Resources👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts In this episode: • Why many runners are not really in Zone 2 • Why heart rate can drift without your physiology changing • Why ventilation may be a better marker of intensity • How VT1 and VT2 define your real training zones • Why fat oxidation matters for endurance performance • How to improve durability and delay fatigue • Why breathing muscles can be trained • How Tymewear Vital Pro measures ventilation in real time Connect with The Endurance Lab: 📩 Email: jusman@theendurancelab.run Chapters: 00:00 Are You Really Zone 2? 03:00 What Zone 2 Means 06:02 Ventilation vs Lactate 10:32 Why Heart Rate Misleads 15:20 Measuring Physiological State 22:25 Why Generic Zones Fail 26:25 Power Needs Physiology 29:11 Zone 3 Stagnation 30:17 Anar’s Background 34:00 Ventilation as Ground Truth 37:39 Ventilation vs Heart Rate 39:41 How Tymewear Measures Breathing 45:26 Finding VT1 and VT2 50:59 Where Ventilation Fails 56:04 Breathing Rate vs Tidal Volume 58:36 Tymewear Vital Pro 1:03:57 Training in Heat 1:07:49 What Is Durability? 1:11:28 Other Real-Time Tools 1:13:48 Stress and Breathing 1:14:54 Training Breathing Muscles 1:17:13 ISOCapnic BWB #runningover40 #marathontraining #zonetwotraining #heartratetraining #endurancetraining

  • #20
    July 3 · 1 hr 4 min

    Heat Training for Runners Over 40 | Sports Scientist

    Most runners think about training in terms of mileage, intervals, and long runs. Very few think about heat as a performance tool. But heat training could be one of the most accessible and evidence-based performance levers available to any recreational runner — and it requires no extra miles, no gym membership, and no expensive equipment.In this episode Dr. Daniel Snape — sports scientist, environmental physiologist, and the researcher behind the heat and altitude programs for 2025 UTMB winners Tom Evans and Ruth Croft — breaks down exactly how heat training works, what it does to your body, and how any runner over 40 can use it to run faster at a lower heart rate without adding more mileage or intensity to their week. Whether you have access to a sauna, a hot bath, or just a treadmill and some extra layers, this episode will change how you think about what counts as training. Customised heat and hypoxic training programs by Dr. Daniel Snape and his team at Leeds Beckett University Health and Performance Hub: https://www.leedsbeckett.ac.uk/carnegie-school-of-sport/health-and-performance-hub/ 0:00 Run faster at the same heart rate 4:00 Heat training vs heat acclimatisation 8:10 What temperatures are we actually targeting 9:51 Plasma volume — what it is and what heat training does to it 11:14 Hematocrit and red blood cells explained 13:44 Does heat training affect the heart 15:01 What training zone are you actually in during a heat session 16:32 How heat training changes your sweat response 18:54 Core temperature and performance range 20:07 VO2 max — how much does heat training actually increase it 22:19 EPO — how heat training naturally upregulates it 24:51 Are older athletes more vulnerable to heat stress 26:29 How to measure core temperature safely 44:39 Passive protocols — saunas and hot baths5 2:42 Active heat training — intensity and pacing 54:42 The ideal heat training block for a goal race 59:01 How long do the adaptations last 1:00:47 Maintenance dose to keep adaptations 1:01:19 The one thing any runner can do at home 1:02:31 When heat training is not worth it

  • #19
    June 20 · 1 hr 15 min

    The ONLY 4 Supplements You Need To Run Faster For Longer

    Patrick Wilson is an exercise physiologist, sports nutrition researcher, and author of The Athlete's Gut. He has spent his career studying how the gut responds to food, fluid, and supplements during exercise — and what actually works versus what the industry wants you to believe. In this episode Patrick breaks down the optimal carbohydrate intake per hour based on the actual dose response research, why going above 90 grams may not give you what you think it does, how gut training works and how quickly you can adapt, the truth about sodium bicarbonate and how to use it without destroying your race, what caffeine abstaining before a race actually does, and which supplements are genuinely worth your money and which ones are not. The Athlete's Gut — https://www.amazon.com/Athletes-Gut-Digestion-Nutrition-Distress/dp/194800710X 0:00 The supplement industry0:57 Optimal carbs per hour9:21 The high carb and glycogen paradox11:40 Risks of high carb for recreational runners15:37 Risks of fasted and low carb training19:03 How to build a fuelling strategy without lab access24:12 Gel osmolality 26:57 Gut training 31:29 How quickly can gut training happen36:12 Heat and its effect on carb tolerance38:15 Sodium bicarbonate 43:59 How to use bicarb without the GI disaster54:49 Caffeine — sublingual vs oral delivery1:02:23 Should you stop caffeine before a race1:05:43 Acetaminophen as a performance aid1:09:28 Creatine for runners 1:11:54 Final takeaway on supplements and performance #SportsNutrition #RunningSupplements #CarbsForRunners #EnduranceLab #GutTraining #SodiumBicarbonate #CaffeineAndRunning #MarathonNutrition #RunFaster #UltraRunningNutrition #EndurancePerformance #PatrickWilson #TheAthletesGut #RunningScience #MarathonTraining #FuelingForPerformance #RunnersNutrition #TrailRunningNutrition #UltraMarathon #ErgonicAids

  • #18
    June 12 · 1 hr

    Deena Kastor’s Advice To Runners Over 40 | Olympic Medalist

    Deena Kastor is a three-time Olympian, bronze medalist, former American marathon record holder, Chicago and London marathon champion, and US women's masters marathon record holder at 42 with a time of 2:27. She is one of the most decorated American distance runners of all time. But what made her great was not just her training. It was what she did with the six inches above her shoulders. In this episode Deena breaks down exactly how she trained her mind to run faster, the daily practices that made her simultaneously happier and quicker, how she broke the masters marathon record despite wildfires, allergies, the flu, and a flawed race, why comparison does not have to steal your joy, and what runners over 40 need to hear about their relationship with the sport as times start to change. This is a conversation about the science and practice of thinking your way to better running. Resources: 1. Deena's Book: Let Your Mind Run - https://www.amazon.com/Let-Your-Mind-Run-Thinking/dp/1524760757 2. Deena's Website: https://www.deena-kastor.com/ 3. Andrew Kastor's Coaching: https://www.coachkastor.com/ 0:00 The mindset shift that changed everything 6:42 How to structure mental training 12:04 Does positive thinking actually make you faster 13:47 Mental approach as a masters athlete 15:48 Breaking the masters marathon record at 42 22:18 How to handle the pain cave in a race 26:20 Training now at 53 29:34 Recovery and how it has changed with age 31:05 How environment shapes running longevity 34:16 Advice for runners whose times are declining 36:29 Advice for runners still improving after 40 38:10 Navigating the decline from elite to masters 43:23 How to handle comparison 45:57 Training with only 5 to 6 hours a week 47:08 When injury takes running away 49:52 The book — Let Your Mind Run 57:54 How to work with Deena and Andrew 58:44 Final message to runners over 40 #DeenaKastor #MindsetForRunners #RunningMindset #RunnersOver40 #MastersRunning #MarathonMindset #EnduranceLab #LetYourMindRun #MarathonTraining #RunFasterAfter40 #MentalTraining #PositivePsychology #RunningMotivation #MastersMarathon #RunningOver40 #EliteRunning #MarathonPerformance #RunningLongevity #ThinkFaster #WomenRunning

  • #17
    June 5 · 1 hr 4 min

    2 UTMB Wins Prove You Don’t Need 120g Carbs | Paul Booth

    Everyone seems to be chasing 120 grams of carbs per hour at the moment. But the research says that performance actually starts to dip after 100 grams per hour. And the fuelling plan behind two UTMB wins proves it. Paul Booth is a sports nutritionist, exercise physiologist, and lead nutritionist for the Salomon International Team with 26 years in university academia and 92 ultras completed himself. In 2025 he built the customised fuelling strategies that won both the men's and women's UTMB 100. But what makes this conversation valuable is not what Tom Evans and Ruth Croft did. It is what you can take from it and apply to your next race. In this episode Paul breaks down exactly how much carbohydrate you actually need per hour based on your intensity and fitness level, why going above 100 grams per hour may actually hurt your performance, how to train your gut so it does not fail you on race day, the glucose to fructose ratio that the research actually supports, and the one fuelling hierarchy mistake most ultra runners are making right now. Whether you are racing a marathon, a 100k or a 100 miler this is the most practical fuelling conversation you will find. Paul Booth: Website: https://performancegainsnutrition.com/ Instagram: @ultra.endurance.nutritionist Show notes links: 1. Ricardo Costa — Gut Training Research (the key paper Paul references)https://cdnsciencepub.com/doi/abs/10.1139/apnm-2016-0453 2. Ricardo Costa — Gut Training Systematic Review (most comprehensive overview)https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37061651/ 3. O'Brien and Rowlands — The 0.8 fructose to glucose ratio paper (2011)https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpgi.00419.2010 4. O'Brien and Rowlands — Fructose Maltodextrin Ratio Governs Performance (2013)https://www.researchgate.net/publication/255958218_Fructose-Maltodextrin_Ratio_Governs_Exogenous_and_Other_CHO_Oxidation_and_Performance 5. Alan McCubbin — Sodium ingestion and endurance performance systematic reviewhttps://research.monash.edu/en/publications/impact-of-sodium-ingestion-during-exercise-on-endurance-performan/ 0:00 Why 120g/hr has no research behind it 1:11 The UTMB fuelling strategy explained 4:20 What lab testing actually reveals 13:06 How to deliver carbs during a race 16:35 Carb strategy for recreational runners 21:35 Do elites need more carbs than amateurs 28:36 Fuelling the second half of your race 33:30 Gut training and osmolality 38:18 Glucose to fructose ratios 43:05 More carbs does not mean better performance 50:47 Feeding frequency and electrolytes 57:54 The fuelling hierarchy 1:01:13 Final takeaway for your next race 1:03:46 What endurance means to Paul Booth

  • #16
    May 22 · 1 hr 10 min

    I Was Wrong About Carbs! 120g/hr Breaks World Records | Tim Noakes

    In this episode we cover what his new paper actually claims about muscle glycogen versus blood glucose, why he now believes 120 grams of carbs per hour works — and why the mechanism is not what anyone thought, the difference between fueling your metabolism and stimulating your brain, why recreational runners may be unknowingly developing pre-diabetes, the central governor theory updated, and his single most important training recommendation for every endurance athlete. Prof. Tim Noakes is a South African sports scientist, physician, and Emeritus Professor at the University of Cape Town. He is the author of the landmark book Lore of Running, one of the most comprehensive references in endurance sport ever written. He ran the Comrades Marathon nine times. He pioneered research on hyponatremia in endurance athletes that has saved lives worldwide. He developed the Central Governor Theory of fatigue. And he has spent decades challenging mainstream thinking on carbohydrates, muscle glycogen, and what actually limits human performance. Professor Tim Noakes has spent nearly 50 years studying endurance performance. He helped build the science of carbohydrate loading. He championed low carb for athletes. And in this conversation, he changed his mind — live — about something he had argued against for years. This is one of the most scientifically dense and genuinely surprising conversations in the history of this podcast. The carbohydrate paper: "Carbohydrate Ingestion on Exercise Metabolism and Physical Performance" by Prof. Tim Noakes and colleagues https://academic.oup.com/edrv/article/47/2/191/8432248?login=false The best impact paper: "Carbohydrate ingestion eliminates hypoglycemia and improves endurance exercise performance in triathletes adapted to very low- and high-carbohydrate isocaloric diets" by Prof. Tim Noakes and colleagues https://journals.physiology.org/doi/full/10.1152/ajpcell.00583.2024 The debate paper:"Does a low-carbohydrate diet impede endurance sports performance? Debate Consensus" by Prof. Tim Noakes and Prof. Louise M Burke https://ajcn.nutrition.org/article/S0002-9165(26)00080-8/fulltext 0:00 Prof. Tim Noakes changed his mind 1:11 His new paper on carbohydrates and performance 9:44 Two glucose pools — muscles vs blood 17:11 Muscle glycogen vs blood glucose explained 21:34 Low glycogen fat burning and carbs during exercise 26:09 Does 120 grams per hour actually work 33:07 Practical carb strategy by athlete type 37:34 Should you carb load the liver 42:27 Practical advice for masters runners 53:06 The central governor theory updated 59:36 Mistakes runners will make after this conversation 1:02:18 The Norwegian method — final takeaway 1:07:23 What endurance means to Prof. Noakes

  • #15
    May 15 · 1 hr 11 min

    Run Your Fastest Marathon After 45, Even If You Started Late | Matt Fitzgerald

    In this episode Matt breaks down exactly why recreational runners become their own ceiling, what he learned training alongside professional runners half his age in Flagstaff, why the 80/20 rule does not need to change as you get older, the carbohydrate debate that is dividing the endurance world right now, and the psychological edge that separates athletes who reach their potential from those who never do. If you want to run your fastest marathon after 40 this is the conversation you need to hear. Matt Fitzgerald's books - https://mattfitzgerald.org/books/ Dream Run Camp - https://dreamrun.com/ Matt Fitzgerald Coaching - https://mattfitzgerald.org/coaching/ 0:00 Fastest marathon after 40 3:31 Time as a limiter 6:06 Training with elites 9:00 More moderate intensity 10:51 The carb debate 18:05 Carbs per hour 21:15 Carb periodization 28:36 80/20 for masters runners 32:52 Low volume and 80/20 35:46 Hyperpolarized training 39:07 Psychology of endurance 47:46 Toughness vs smart racing 50:23 Mental lessons from elites 53:47 Dream Run Camp 1:01:47 What runners take home 1:04:26 What Matt is figuring out

  • #14
    May 8 · 59 min

    The Real Reason Runners Over 40 Keep Getting Injured | Brodie Sharpe

    Most runners think getting injured comes down to weak glutes, bad form, or worn out shoes. But physiotherapist Brody Sharp says the real reason is almost always something else entirely — and most runners over 40 are missing it completely. In this episode, Brody breaks down the load versus capacity model that explains 90% of running injuries, why strong and weak runners get injured at exactly the same rate, how to use carbon shoes and minimalist shoes as tools to build a more robust and durable body, and the one training ratio that could keep you running injury free for the next decade. Resources: Run Smarter Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/au/podcast/the-run-smarter-podcast/id1494778818 YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@RunSmarterwithBrodieSharpe Website and online coaching: https://runsmarter.online/ Run Smarter Book: https://www.amazon.com/Run-Smarter-Evidence-based-Guidance-Opinions/dp/0645520705 0:00 Why runners over 40 keep getting injured 2:42 Early warning signs of injury 7:46 What runners get wrong about injuries 10:05 Load vs capacity explained 13:40 How to measure your training load 17:59 Carbon shoes and injury risk 21:03 How to transition into carbon shoes 28:35 Barefoot and minimalist shoes 31:37 Protocol for transitioning to minimalist shoes 37:10 Heel striking — is it actually a problem? 39:15 Does prehab actually prevent injury 43:45 What to do when injured 48:38 Injury and mental health 51:50 The 80/20 rule for masters runners

  • #13
    May 1 · 1 hr 9 min

    MOST Runners Get Lactate Threshold WRONG | Dr Peter Tran

    Most runners train to improve their lactate threshold. But what if improving it is actually making you slower? In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Peter Tran — sports medicine PhD, 1:14 half marathoner, and co-founder of Athyx — to break down everything runners over 40 need to know about lactate, how to actually use it to guide training, and why most of what you've heard about lactate threshold training is wrong. We also get into fueling strategies, the truth about high carb versus low carb for endurance athletes, and the future of continuous lactate monitoring — including Peter's new wearable device that could change how runners train forever. Get your Hume Health Body Pod with up to 50% OFF 👉 https://humehealth.com//discount/ENDURANCELAB?redirect=/pages/hume-body-pod&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=ENDURANCELAB Use code: ENDURANCELAB Get 10% off the Athyx Flux 1 👉 https://www.athyx.com/ Use Code: ELAB10 To receive your discount, you need to create an account on the Athyx website. The Endurance Lab Training Plans (5K, 10K, Half & Full Marathon) 👉 http://theendurancelab.run/training-plans Check out all of the exclusive discounts from Partners of The Endurance Lab 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts 0:00 Why lactate matters 4:39 LT1 and LT2 explained 11:22 Lab vs real world testing 17:52 Maximal lactate steady state 24:11 Using lactate to guide training 29:48 One test tells you nothing 32:06 Shifting the lactate curve 36:29 Lactate data over time 39:42 Lactate vs heart rate 45:04 High carb vs low carb and lactate 50:46 Continuous lactate monitoring 56:15 Athyx Flux One #LactateThreshold #RunningScience #MastersRunners #EnduranceTraining #Zone2Training #LactateTraining #RunFaster #MarathonTraining #RunningOver40 #ContinuousLactate #Athyx #RunSmarter #EnduranceLab #FatAdaptedRunning #HighCarbRunning #TrainingLoad #RunningPerformance #VO2Max #LT1LT2 #NorwegianMethod

  • #12
    April 17 · 59 min

    The Secret to Running FAST Even As You Get OLDER | Jeannie Rice

    Jeannie Rice is one of the most remarkable masters runners in the world. In this conversation, she shares how she is still breaking world records in her late 70s, from the 1500m all the way to the marathon, and what really matters if you want to stay fast, healthy, and competitive as you age. We talk about the real reasons behind her longevity in running: consistent mileage, simple training, smart recovery, staying injury-free, disciplined sleep, healthy nutrition, and the mindset that keeps her improving decade after decade. Jeannie also breaks down her weekly training, how much speed work she still does, why she recovers so quickly, and what runners in their 40s and 50s should prioritize now if they want to still be performing at a high level later in life. If you’re interested in masters running, marathon training, longevity, injury prevention, recovery, VO2 max, world records, and what it actually takes to keep running strong into your 70s, this episode is packed with lessons. The Endurance Lab Training Plans (5K, 10K, Half & Full Marathon) 👉 http://theendurancelab.run/training-plans Check out all of the exclusive discounts from Partners of The Endurance Lab 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts Follow Jeannie Rice - https://www.facebook.com/jeannie.k.rice Chapters00:00 Intro 00:23 World records in her 70s 05:04 What makes Jeannie different 11:14 Jeannie Rice’s weekly training 18:08 Recovery, durability, and staying injury-free 22:41 Sleep, nutrition, and race fueling 30:44 What to prioritize in your 40s and 50s 40:12 Genetics vs training 45:48 Racing younger runners and aging performance 50:33 Jeannie’s race calendar and goals 55:13 What endurance means to Jeannie Rice

  • #11
    April 10 · 55 min

    The Low-Carb Strategy Behind 200-Mile Ultramarathons | Steak, Not Pasta | Andrea Moore

    Andrea Moore is one of the most accomplished ultra runners in the sport, completing eight races over 200 miles in just eight months in 2025. In this conversation, we explore what it really takes to race at the edge of endurance, from 100 milers to 200+ mile ultras, and how fueling, fat adaptation, recovery, mindset, and durability all change as the distances get longer. Andrea shares how her approach evolved from road running to trail and ultra racing, why she shifted to a low-carb, fat-adapted fueling strategy, how Vespa changed her recovery and muscle durability, and why she believes ultra running is as much emotional and spiritual as it is physical. We also talk about training for ultramarathons, back-to-back long runs, high-intensity work for ultra athletes, strength training, injury prevention, and why the pain cave is not something to fear but something to move toward. If you’re curious about ultra running, 100 mile races, 200 mile races, fat adaptation for endurance, ultra fueling, recovery after long races, or the mindset needed to go deep into suffering and keep moving, this episode is for you. The Endurance Lab Training Plans (5K, 10K, Half & Full Marathon) 👉 http://theendurancelab.run/training-plans Check out all of the exclusive discounts from Partners of The Endurance Lab 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts Follow Andrea Moore: Instagram: @andthensome1 TikTok: @andthensome1 Chapters: 00:00 Endurance is ... 01:20 Andrea Moore’s 200-mile journey 06:32 Low-carb fueling, Vespa, and fat adaptation 14:24 Road marathon vs ultra running 19:48 Fueling during 200-mile races 24:38 Strength training and training for your first ultra 30:18 Why ultra runners still need speed work 35:03 Big mileage vs mobility and mindset 40:06 Running toward the pain cave 46:40 Why more older runners move into ultras 49:50 Staying durable and recovering after 200 miles

  • #10
    April 1 · 1 hr 11 min

    #1 HRV Mistake Most Runners Make | Dr. Marco Altini

    Most runners track HRV, but very few actually know how to use it correctly. In this conversation, Dr. Marco Altini explains what HRV can tell you, what it can’t, and how to use it to make better training decisions without becoming a slave to the data. Get your Hume Health Body Pod with up to 50% OFF👉 https://humehealth.com//discount/ENDURANCELAB?redirect=/pages/hume-body-pod&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=ENDURANCELAB Use code: ENDURANCELAB The Endurance Lab Training Plans (5K, 10K, Half & Full Marathon) 👉 http://theendurancelab.run/training-plans Get 10% off the Isocapnic BWB to train your respiratory muscles 👉 https://shop.isocapnic.com/?sca_ref=10462834.lsRLwaoT7WUNdYI Use code: JusmanSo Check out all of the exclusive discounts from Partners of The Endurance Lab 👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts Dr. Marco Altini is a physiological data scientist, HRV researcher, coach, and the founder of HRV4Training. Over the last 15 years, he has worked at the intersection of physiology, wearable technology, machine learning, and endurance performance to help athletes better understand stress, recovery, and training readiness. In this episode, we go far beyond the usual “high HRV is good, low HRV is bad” conversation. We break down how HRV should actually be interpreted in the real world, why resting heart rate still matters, when HRV is useful for adjusting training, and why context matters more than any single number on your watch. We also discuss how HRV changes with age, how life stress compares to training stress, whether HRV can predict overtraining, how tapering affects HRV before a race, and whether HRV is really a meaningful marker of long-term health and longevity. Resources: Marco Altini Substack: https://marcoaltini.substack.com/ Marco Altini personal site: https://www.marcoaltini.com/ HRV4Training: https://www.hrv4training.com/ Coaching: https://marcoaltini.substack.com/p/coachcorner-my-training-philosophy iPhone App: https://apps.apple.com/app/hrv4training/id686923970 Android App: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.asma.hrv4training If you are a runner or endurance athlete over 40 trying to train smarter, recover better, and make sense of what your wearable is telling you, this conversation will help you understand HRV in a much more practical and nuanced way. In this episode, we cover: • what HRV actually reflects physiologically • why HRV and resting heart rate should be viewed together • how to know when an HRV change is meaningful • when low HRV should change your training • why HRV is more useful for holding back than pushing harder • whether HRV can help detect overload or injury risk • how HRV changes with aging • life stress vs training stress • whether HRV is linked to metabolic health • what happens to HRV during taper week • whether HRV predicts longevity • morning HRV readings vs overnight wearable data • how women’s HRV can change across the menstrual cycle • whether strength training affects HRV This episode is especially for runners who want to use wearable data intelligently, improve training quality, and avoid misreading HRV trends. Chapters 0:00 Intro 0:45 Why HRV matters 10:14 Why RMSSD is the standard 15:39 When HRV should change training 20:37 HRV for hard vs easy days 31:15 How HRV changes with age 38:04 Life stress, metabolic health, and seasonality 47:01 Overtraining, tapering, and long-term health 55:16 Morning vs overnight HRV reading 1:04:00 Sex differences, hormones, and strength training

  • #9
    March 22 · 1 hr 7 min

    #1 Breathing Technique To Run Faster With Less Effort | Dr. Andrew Sellars

    Can your breathing be the hidden reason running feels harder than it should? Get 10% off the Isocapnic BWB to train your respiratory muscles👉 https://shop.isocapnic.com/?sca_ref=10462834.lsRLwaoT7WUNdYIUse code: JusmanSo In this episode of The Endurance Lab, I sit down with Dr. Andrew Sellars to explore one of the most overlooked performance limiters in endurance sport: breathing. Most runners focus on aerobic fitness, mileage, and strength training — but almost nobody trains the muscles that power every breath. Dr. Sellars explains how inefficient breathing can quietly drain performance, why the respiratory system may be the bottleneck for many runners, and how targeted breathing training can improve running economy, VO2 max, and overall endurance. We talk about how the respiratory muscles affect performance, why breathing may decline with age if left untrained, and how runners can improve it without adding more mileage. We also dive into CO2 tolerance, nasal vs mouth breathing, respiratory muscle training, and how breathing patterns can influence how hard running feels at marathon pace and beyond. Get the Hume Health Body Pod for up to 50% off👉 https://humehealth.com//discount/ENDURANCELAB?redirect=/pages/hume-body-pod&utm_source=youtube&utm_medium=influencer&utm_campaign=ENDURANCELABUse code: ENDURANCELAB Train smarter with Athletica and get 15% off for as long as you stay subscribed!👉 https://athletica.ai/?via=theendurancelabUse code: JUSMAN Get 15% off all NovaaLab red light therapy products👉 https://tidd.ly/46iKcApUse code: EnduranceLab15 Check out all exclusive partner discounts from The Endurance Lab👉 https://theendurancelab.run/exclusive-discounts In this episode, we cover: • Why breathing is often ignored in endurance training • How the respiratory system can limit running performance • Why breathing can use up a significant amount of energy during hard efforts • The role of respiratory muscles in fatigue • Whether breathing gets worse with age • CO2 tolerance and why it matters for runners • How respiratory muscle training works • How breathing affects VO2 max • Nasal breathing vs mouth breathing for runners • Why slower, deeper breathing may help running feel easier • How to integrate breathing training into marathon prep Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:40 Who Is Dr. Andrew Sellars?2:15 Is Breathing Limiting Your Running? 7:26 How Does Breathing Limit Performance? 10:43 What Actually Limits Your Breathing? 16:08 The Low-Hanging Fruit Most Runners Ignore 18:08 What Is CO₂ Tolerance? 25:45 How To Improve CO₂ Tolerance? 29:41 What is Respiratory Muscle Training? 34:438 How Much Faster Can Breathing Training Make You? 41:37 Can Respiratory Muscle Training Improve VO₂ Max? 47:07 How Would Respiratory Muscle Training Fit Into A Training Plan? 57:013 The Best Breathing Pattern for Marathon Pace 01:02:14 Nasal vs Mouth Breathing #running #endurancetraining #breathing #vo2max #marathontraining #runningperformance #zonetraining #respiratorytraining #nasalbreathing #mastersrunning #theendurancelab #jusmanso

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