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The Empowered Leader Podcast

Margaret Williams, MS, ACC

The Empowered Leader is a video podcast for women who have been marginalized, going beneath surface-level leadership advice to name the real tensions of leading inside systems not designed for them: visibility without backlash, authority without permission, and elevating your voice without self-erasure. Each episode interrogates power, bias, and leadership norms while offering a grounded perspective that clarifies what’s personal, what’s systemic, and where your voice and your choices still hold power.

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  • July 25 · 1 min

    Taming Performance Anxiety with Dr. David Lee Fish

    In today’s world, leadership often means public speaking and high-stakes presentations, and performance anxiety can be a significant barrier. In our latest episode, we sat down with Dr. David Lee Fish, a renowned expert in managing performance anxiety and author of the award-winning book The 5-Day Stage Fright Solution, to explore how we can all perform with confidence, even under pressure. Understanding Performance Anxiety Performance anxiety affects a staggering 75% of us, regardless of expertise or field, and it doesn’t fade with success. As Dr. Fish explains, “Even those who rise in their careers often face more performance anxiety than those starting out.” The larger the stakes, the larger the threat but also the greater the opportunity to grow. He breaks the mechanics down into three factors: * Performing in front of others, whether in a boardroom or on stage, can trigger anxiety. * Feeling judged: the perception of being evaluated undermines self-confidence. * The perceived threat of negative judgment from not landing a job to deeper existential fears. Importantly, this anxiety isn’t a lack of confidence. It’s the amygdala, our brain’s ancient threat detector, flooding us with adrenaline better suited for fleeing wild animals than speaking in boardrooms. Harnessing Mindfulness Drawing from his Zen training, Dr. Fish offers mindfulness as the way through: “Only go straight, don’t know.” The mindset prioritizes action over hesitation and detachment from judgment, focusing on the present moment rather than imagined verdicts. My Journey Margaret Williams, the author of The Empowered Leader publication, shared her own battle with feeling “good enough” to write and speak publicly, despite a successful 39-year Army civilian career. Her breakthrough came through mentorship and the courage to share her voice on Substack, something she now helps others achieve. Key Takeaways * Performance anxiety is normal: even accomplished performers like Beyoncé and Adele experience stage fright. * Mindfulness works: detach from judgment and return to the present moment. * Find your community: seek out mentors who provide guidance and encouragement. Take the Next Step 🎧 Listen to the full episode with Dr. David Lee Fish for the complete conversation and practical strategies you can use before your next high-stakes moment. 📖 Explore Dr. Fish’s work at riseup8.com and in The 5-Day Stage Fright Solution. 💬 Subscribe to The Empowered Leader so you never miss a conversation, and if this episode spoke to you, share it with one person who needs to hear that their anxiety isn’t a verdict. The next time you feel the weight of performance anxiety, remember: don’t let the fear of judgment hold you back. It’s time to step into your power with freedom, influence, and authority. Until next time, embrace your journey with confidence and authority. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit substack.iprofessionalcoaching.com/subscribe

  • July 24 · 1 hr 13 min

    Counter-Intuitive Solution for Performance with Dr. Fish

    Summary In this episode, Dr. David Lee Fish shares insights on performance anxiety, mindfulness, and strategies to overcome stage fright, helping professionals perform with confidence under pressure. Thank you Savio P. Clemente, Ms.Yuse, Millie Jones-Cowles, BethAlli Acorn 🇺🇦🇬🇱🇺🇸🦩, AJ, and many others for tuning into my live video! Join me for my next live video in the app. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit substack.iprofessionalcoaching.com/subscribe

  • July 22 · 44 min

    Ask Me Anything (AMA)

    Thank you to everyone who tuned into my live video! Join me for my next live video in the app. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit substack.iprofessionalcoaching.com/subscribe

  • July 21 · 46 min

    The Physics of Persuasion with Dr. JonRobert Tartaglione

    Bio for JonRobert Tartaglione, Ph.D. Founder & Principal Consultant at Influence 51 | Behavioral Scientist Overview Dr. JonRobert Tartaglione is a behavioral scientist, speaker, and executive advisor specializing in the psychology of human influence. As the founder of Influence 51, he translates research in social psychology and behavioral science into practical strategies for leaders, executive teams, and organizations seeking to shape attitudes, improve decision-making, and drive sustainable behavior change. Key Expertise & Focus * Behavioral Science & Influence: Applies psychological frameworks to strategic communications, negotiation, and leadership development. * Leadership & Organizational Change: Helps teams reduce cognitive resistance, earn trust, and align organizational culture with identity-driven motivation. * Keynotes & Workshops: Delivers interactive sessions on persuasion tactics, decision-making biases, and strategic influence. Education & Credentials * Ph.D. in Psychology – University of Cambridge Client Experience Dr. Tartaglione has advised leading corporate, non-profit, and professional organizations across diverse sectors, including: * Corporate & Tech: Visa, Nintendo, Texas Instruments, Cognitiv, McDonald’s * Legal & Financial: DLA Piper, Fox Rothschild, Northwestern Mutual * Non-Profits & Community: Boys & Girls Clubs of America, Big Brothers Big Sisters, Ronald McDonald House Charities * Engineering & Professional Services: Garver, Turner, Wallace Engineering, Vizient, SMPS Talking Points: The Physics of Persuasion Research-backed principles of influence, framed through the laws of motion Framing the Metaphor Persuasion behaves less like magic and more like mechanics. People at rest tend to stay at rest; pushing hard produces pushback; small forces applied consistently build momentum; and messages travel farther when they match the receiver’s natural frequency. The physics is metaphor, but each principle below is anchored to peer-reviewed behavioral research. Use the metaphor for accessibility; use the citations for credibility. 1. Inertia: Objects at Rest Stay at Rest (Status Quo Bias) Samuelson and Zeckhauser (1988) demonstrated experimentally that people disproportionately choose whatever option is framed as the current state, even when alternatives are objectively better — the status quo bias. This is a primary empirical source and one of the most replicated findings in decision science. • Your audience is not neutral; they are at rest. The default option always has a head start, so expect to overcome inertia, not just present merit. • The most efficient persuasion often changes the default rather than arguing against it; make the desired path the pre-set path. • Leadership application: when proposing change, quantify the cost of the status quo explicitly. Inertia survives on the illusion that staying put is free. 2. Friction: Reduce Resistance Before Adding Force Berger (2020) synthesizes research showing that persuasion fails less from weak arguments than from unaddressed barriers and that removing friction (reactance, endowment, distance, uncertainty) outperforms pushing harder. Note: this is a practitioner synthesis by an academic, not a single empirical study; it is best cited as a framework organizing primary findings. • Before adding another argument, ask: what is stopping them? More fuel on a braked car burns the engine, not the road. • Shrink the ask. Uncertainty is friction; pilots, trials, and reversible first steps lower it. • Leadership application: in stakeholder resistance, diagnose the specific brake fear of loss, fear of blame, unclear process, and release it before re-pitching. 3. Newton’s Third Law: Push Hard, Get Pushback (Psychological Reactance) Brehm (1966) established reactance theory: when people perceive their freedom to choose is threatened, they are motivated to restore it — often by doing the opposite of what is demanded. Primary theoretical and empirical source, with a large replication literature since. • Pressure produces an equal and opposite reaction. Hard sells trigger the very resistance they try to crush. • Preserve autonomy explicitly: “the decision is yours” and genuine choice architecture reduce reactance and, counterintuitively, increase compliance. • Leadership application: with senior or skeptical audiences, present options with a recommendation, not a single demand. People defend a corner they are pushed into. 4. Momentum: Small Commitments Compound (Foot-in-the-Door) Freedman and Fraser (1966) showed that people who agreed to a small request were dramatically more likely to later agree to a much larger related request the foot-in-the-door effect, driven by self-perception and consistency. Primary empirical source; effect sizes vary across replications, but the direction is robust. • A body in motion stays in motion. Secure a small, genuine yes before the large one; commitment builds its own momentum. • Sequence matters: agreement on the problem, then the criteria, then the solution. Each yes lowers the activation energy of the next. • Leadership application: in change initiatives, design an early, visible, low-cost win. Momentum is a resource you manufacture, not luck you wait for. 5. Mass: Credibility Bends Trajectories (Source Effects) Hovland, Janis, and Kelley (1953) launched the empirical study of source credibility, showing that the same message changes more minds when delivered by a source perceived as expert and trustworthy. Primary foundational research; the expertise-plus-trustworthiness structure has held up across decades of replication. • The messenger has mass. Identical arguments travel different distances depending on who carries them; invest in who delivers, not only what is delivered. • Borrowed mass works: endorsements, data provenance, and credible allies add weight your own position may not yet carry. • Leadership application: for women whose expertise is discounted in the room, pre-position credibility end the record ahead of you, and enlist validators before the meeting, not during it. 6. Resonance: Match the Receiver’s Natural Frequency Feinberg and Willer (2015) found that political arguments reframed to match the audience’s own moral foundations were significantly more persuasive than arguments delivered in the speaker’s preferred frame. Matz et al. (2017) extended the logic at scale: ads matched to recipients’ psychological profiles outperformed mismatched ones. Both are primary empirical sources (the Matz et al. dataset drew ethical criticism regarding targeting practices — worth acknowledging if pressed). • Systems driven at their natural frequency amplify; driven off-frequency, they dampen. Argue in their values, not yours. • Translation is the skill: the same proposal is “growth” to one listener, “risk control” to another, “legacy” to a third. • Leadership application: map the room before the meeting. One deck, multiple frequencies — tune the framing per decision-maker. 7. Potential Energy: Losses Weigh More Than Gains (with a Caveat) Kahneman and Tversky (1979) proposed in prospect theory that losses loom larger than equivalent gains, and loss framing became a persuasion staple. Flag for accuracy: Gal and Rucker (2018) argue the evidence for loss aversion is weaker and more context-dependent than commonly claimed. The “losses hurt about twice as much as gains” figure is widely repeated but empirically contested; do not present it as settled. • Framing what is at stake as a loss can raise urgency but treat it as a context-dependent tool, not a law. • Credibility application: acknowledging the contested science, briefly, positions you as a rigorous source and inoculates against a well-read skeptic. Source Quality Summary • Primary empirical: Samuelson & Zeckhauser (1988); Brehm (1966); Freedman & Fraser (1966); Hovland et al. (1953); Feinberg & Willer (2015); Matz et al. (2017); Kahneman & Tversky (1979). • Practitioner/synthesis: Berger (2020); Cialdini (2021) — useful organizing frameworks resting on primary literature. • Contested: the magnitude and universality of loss aversion (Gal & Rucker, 2018). References Berger, J. (2020). The catalyst: How to change anyone’s mind. Simon & Schuster. Brehm, J. W. (1966). A theory of psychological reactance. Academic Press. Cialdini, R. B. (2021). Influence, new and expanded: The psychology of persuasion. Harper Business. Feinberg, M., & Willer, R. (2015). From gulf to bridge: When do moral arguments facilitate political influence? Personality and Social Psychology Bulletin, 41(12), 1665–1681. Freedman, J. L., & Fraser, S. C. (1966). Compliance without pressure: The foot-in-the-door technique. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 4(2), 195–202. Gal, D., & Rucker, D. D. (2018). The loss of loss aversion: Will it loom larger than its gain? Journal of Consumer Psychology, 28(3), 497–516. Hovland, C. I., Janis, I. L., & Kelley, H. H. (1953). Communication and persuasion: Psychological studies of opinion change. Yale University Press. Kahneman, D., & Tversky, A. (1979). Prospect theory: An analysis of decision under risk. Econometrica, 47(2), 263–291. Matz, S. C., Kosinski, M., Nave, G., & Stillwell, D. J. (2017). Psychological targeting as an effective approach to digital mass persuasion. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, 114(48), 12714–12719. Samuelson, W., & Zeckhauser, R. (1988). Status quo bias in decision making. Journal of Risk and Uncertainty, 1(1), 7–59. Thank you Mandy Ohman, Sacred Storylines 🎨, Diane, A. Eevie Bateman BethAlli Acorn 🇺🇦🇬🇱🇺🇸🦩, and many others for tuning into my live video with Dr JonRobert Tartaglione! Join me for my next live video in the app. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit substack.iprofessionalcoaching.com/subscribe

  • July 21 · 5 min

    [Update] The Art of Detachment (Expanded)

    Detachment is not indifference. It’s disciplined power. For leaders who survived by over-functioning, detachment feels unsafe at first. You built success on caring deeply, anticipating everything, and carrying what others dropped. You became indispensable. You also became exhausted. Detachment begins the moment you realize: Not everything that moves is yours to manage. And not every outcome is yours to absorb. Liberation: Internal Elevation In the Liberation phase of leadership, detachment is internal authority. It is releasing the compulsive need to: * Fix * Prove * Rescue * Explain It is separating your identity from outcomes, applause, and other people’s comfort. You can care without carrying. You can lead without absorbing. You can influence without attaching your worth to the result. Here’s the hard truth: If your nervous system is fused to every outcome, you are not leading, you are bracing. Notice your body the next time something doesn’t land the way you hoped. Do you tense? Over-explain? Rush to repair? That reaction is attachment. Detachment creates space. Space creates clarity. Clarity restores authority. Behavior Shift: Before responding to a disappointing outcome, pause. Ask: “Is this mine to carry?” Metric to Track: How quickly do I recover from self-doubt this week? Shorter recovery time = stronger detachment. Visibility: Strategic Elevation In Visibility work, detachment becomes leverage. You claim credit cleanly. You state results clearly. You let the story land. You do not: * Over-explain your value * Shrink to soften discomfort * Chase immediate validation Visibility is not performance. It is positioning. Detachment here means: You make the move. And you release the reaction. Silence does not equal failure. Delayed response does not equal rejection. If you find yourself refreshing your inbox or replaying the meeting in your head, that’s attachment resurfacing. Behavior Shift: After one visible leadership move, do not seek reassurance. Metric to Track: How many approval-seeking follow-ups did I resist this week? Transformation: Systemic Elevation Detachment becomes critical in Transformation work. You intervene because it is responsible, not because you need to be the hero. You build coalitions instead of control. You redistribute power instead of hoarding it. You shift norms without tying your identity to the pace of change. Sustainable transformation is collective. Attachment says: “If this fails, I failed.” Detachment says: “I did what alignment required.” That difference protects you from burnout masquerading as purpose. It allows you to: * Mentor without controlling * Sponsor without owning * Advocate without self-erasing You climb without gripping so tightly that you bleed. Behavior Shift: Initiate one system intervention without attaching your worth to the response. Metric to Track: Did I intervene early, or wait for a crisis to validate action? The Nervous System Test Detachment is not coldness. It is the ability to act without your identity being on the line. If your heart rate spikes when someone disagrees, if you feel compelled to “win” the room, if you ruminate for hours afterward, That’s not leadership. That’s anxiety trying to protect you. Authority feels steadier. Slower. Less reactive. Less fused. What Detachment Is Not Detachment does not mean: * You stop caring about justice. * You stop caring about performance. * You stop caring about people. It means you stop tying your worth to whether they respond the way you hoped. You do the work. You speak the truth. You make the move. And then you release the outcome. Weekly Authority Audit To stabilize detachment, ask: * Where did I over-function? * Where did I release control? * Where did I intervene without attachment? * How quickly did I recover from disappointment? Detachment grows through repetition, not intention. Final Stabilization The art of detachment is the quiet decision to lead from alignment instead of anxiety. It is choosing authority over approval. It is caring deeply, without collapsing internally. When you master detachment: * Boundaries hold without guilt. * Visibility feels strategic, not performative. * System change becomes sustainable, not self-sacrificing. You are no longer bracing. You are leading. And that changes everything. This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit substack.iprofessionalcoaching.com/subscribe