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The Dust Up

Jimmy Slade Productions

The Dust Up is a series of conversations about surfboard designs, shaper interviews and lots more.

The Dust Up is for anybody interested in shaping as well as all the surfboard nerds out there. It's all about the boards and we love talking about surfboards.

Hosted by Cory Russell along with special co hosts Luke Howarth, John Robertson and Christian Pritchett.

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#36
Sunday · 1 hr 16 min
Ep 36 - Outside The Bay with Tyler Bales from Fin Match
In this episode I talk with Tyler Bales from Fin Match. Tyler took up hockey as a young boy and prioritised learning everything he could about every aspect of the equipment. Skates and hockey sticks have many variables depending on the position they play as well as personal preferences. It was in his early teenage years when he discovered a love for surfing. As his ability improved, the questions he had about his equipment increased. Over time he realised a lot of his questions and sometimes confusion related to surfboard fins. Tyler identifies a trip to Mexico as the turning point in his fin journey. The waves were small so he decided to use the MR (plus trailer) fins in his Tomo Sci Fi 2.0. The radical change in the boards performance had a profound and lasting effect on him. Fast forward a few years and Tyler decided he wanted to create a resource that could clarify what various fins did and simplify how a person would select their next set of fins. www.finMatchsurf.com was born. Fin Match allows users to input basic information to find fins that best match there request. It also allows users to create a profile to log their surfboard and fin quivers. One of the highlights of the website for me was the ability for users to log their surf sessions identifying which board they rode, which fins they used and the surf conditions. This information can then be exported to a person's shaper or coach. Tyler and I discuss the various parts of the website, challenges people experience with fins and much more. I hope you enjoy our chat. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#35
August 9 · 2 hr 44 min
Ep 35 - Shaper Interview with Ian Chisholm - Southcoast Surfboards
In this episode I chat with Ian Chisholm from Southcoast Surfboards. Ian's early working life was doing night shift in the fruit and vegetable industry. The hours were unusual and the work was hard, but that only helped him develop his solid work ethic. Ian's path to making surfboards was similar to many, but when he created Southcoast Surfboards around 30 years ago, he had planned to manage a Victorian wholesale surfboard business. The first people he reached out to were two industry heavyweights, Wayne Deane and Brett Munro. It wasn't long until Ian figured out the success of his business would require him to get involved with building boards. Ian tells how he had to educate himself on the process of making boards from briefly watching a friend near Ulladulla and learn quickly from his mistakes. Ian set up shop in Torquay when it was a lot smaller town and the people in the surfboard factories would keep to themselves. In time, Ian would establish good friendships with most of them and 'take his seat at the table in the industry'. Over the decades, Ian has honed his craft, worked with top ranking surfers and train some of the next generation of top surfboard builders. We chat about how to improve the quality of your workmanship, tips and tricks for working with resin tints and pigments and establishing a solid process to work with a range of materials. Ian and his wife Ange, (who recently won the women's over 40’s Australian Title) have curated a space in Torquay that combines a surfboard factory, showroom and coffee shop under the one roof. Ian shapes a wide selection of boards including mini simmons, retro fish, mid lengths and all sorts of longboards. As he is the first ‘longboard shaper’ to be a guest on the podcast we talk about longboarding competitions, having a WSL longboard event at Bells Beach and working with his highly talented team of CJ Nelson, Soleil Errico and Ben Considine. At the start of 2025, he suffered a major health scare and it was his determination and pragmatic approach developed from making surfboards that ensured his recovery. Ian is always honest and straight forward but he balances that with a healthy sense of humour. I hope you enjoy our chat... Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#34
July 9 · 1 hr 58 min
Ep 34 - 'STAB in the dark' Season 11 - Surfboard Review
In this episode I sit down with Luke Howarth from Howie Shapes and Nick Blair from Joistik Surfboards to talk about what we observed in each board's performance submitted to 'STAB in the dark' - Season 11. Shapers are often asked for their opinion of regarding different boards on 'STAB in the dark'. Ethan Ewing is such a supremely talented surfer that demands a lot from his equipment. It was easy to see when a board would underperform or fail for Ethan, but why? Why did a particular board fail at a point during a turn? Why did some boards transition between turns better than others? Most importantly, which one did we think performed best? I have a lot of respect for Howie and Nick, so I really enjoyed the opportunity to hear their perspectives and share my own observations. We discuss the influence of outlines, rockers and fin placement that we identified as the reason for each board's performance. During our conversation we share some insights into the surfboard industry and as always have a good laugh. Make no mistake this is not a fluff piece, and we are honest in our appraisals. We also discuss possible ideas that we would like to see in future 'STAB in the dark' seasons, and I share an idea from co-host at large - Johnny 'Robbo' Robertson that might blow your mind! After the last season of 'Stab in the dark' with Kelly Slater, I received many messages asking what we would shape for him? What surfboard design characteristics would we implement? Nick and Howie provide their answers as an extra conversation after the episode. This was a fun episode to record but it may be one for the real surfboard nerds...? Enjoy! Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#33
May 14 · 42 min
Ep 33 - Surfboard Myths - 'Litres' are not the answer with Matt Hurworth - MH Surfboards.
In this episode Luke Howarth and I chat with Matt Hurworth from MH Surfboards about the litres written on the bottom of your surfboard are not the answer. 'Volume' and 'litres' ambushed the surfboard industry approximately 20 years ago with the growth of surfboard design programs and shaping machines. Many of the big surfboard brands use litreage and stock dimensions to create a small, medium and large concept to convince the surfboard shop that all bases are covered for sales. Matt has been in the surfboard industry for decades and wanted to dive deeper to explain the various nuances with surfboard design that can influence the final 'litres' number. These include style of board, where you surf, how you surf and what type of construction the board is. We discuss the alternative reasons people may think they require more volume including: - the efficiency that can be gained from a longer board or flatter entry rocker which will make a board paddle better - the surfer actually seeking weight in their board so they can push against the increased momentum - the different bouyancy you get with different surfboard cores - the inaccuracies of using 'litres' for grom boards and boards for older people due to the requirements these surfers have on boards. Finally, I present the proposition of 'flotation vs water displacement' and present Matt and Luke with Archimedes' Principle to get their thoughts and opinions. Enjoy. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#32
April 22 · 31 min
Ep 32 - Surfboard Myths - CAD programs create perfect surfboards with Sam Tehan - Force 9 Surfboards
We kick off the 'Surfboard Myths' series with Sam Tehan from Force 9 surfboards. We live in a world saturated with marketing bullshit and as the surf industry went corporate, surfboards followed. Topics will be suggested by the Dust Up community, and we will get them on to discuss the myth. We are not trying to discredit any brand or people in the industry and will do our best to address the actual myth. In this episode we chat to Sam about how people view CAD programs and what exactly does the program do? Sam has been in the industry for many years and is surrounded by numerous robots, machines and 3D printers at Force 9 surfboards. Many think shapers simply input length, width and thickness but it is way more complicated than that. Like any computer program it will do what the user tells it to do.A good surfboard designer uses CAD programs as a tool similar to how shapers use any other tool in their shaping bay. The journey to learn how to use these programs is never ending but it takes years to be proficient. This has resulted in many high-profile shapers not even designing their own files. The main point of these episodes is to help customers understand what is true and what is marketing spin. If your shaper cannot explain what a design element contributes to the performance of a board, find another shaper. I hope you enjoy our chat... Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#31
April 6 · 1 hr 27 min
Ep 31 - Shaper Interview with Nick Masarin - Microjet Surfboards
In this episode I chat with Nick Masarin from Microjet Surfboards. Nick started shaping in the late 60's and experienced the shortboard revolution in the Sydney surf industry. Surfboard design was changing so rapidly at the time that often no two boards were the same. Numerous surfboard design ideas were potentially left on the shaping room floor. I doubt he knew it but this would become the foundation for Nick's surfboard designs in the future. Nick talks about his love for fast man-made creations, namely jet fighter airplanes. Traditionally, a lot of surfboard shapers look to fish fins or follow George Greenough philosophies. Nick didn't just stick his toe in on the jet airplane designs; he jumped in the deep end. Microjet surfboard designs usually have a small wing alongside the side fins in the outline of the board. Other strong design elements you may see are jet shaped tail outlines, jet like angular fins and various bottom contour designs. Nick is not trying to make a 'NEW' design for the surfboard market and seems more interested in pursuing designs. One of the biggest challenges Nick faces is his boards can be overwhelming for people. He speaks about his desire for more high-level surfers to test his designs as well as making a couple of boards for Brad Gerlach. The funniest part of our conversation is Nick is a self-proclaimed dumpster diver and loves turning discarded materials into something useful. He explains how he sources a lot of his blanks from reject cuts, carbon fibre from dumpsters and slightly imperfect fibre glass cloth from industry reps. Nick describes himself as 'not much of a talker' but he is a lot of fun to speak with, and I know his boards will inspire many ideas amongst surfboard shapers around the world. I really hope you enjoy our chat... Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#30
March 22 · 1 hr 36 min
Ep 30 - Outside The Bay with Dan Treloar from Grow Blanks
In this episode I chat with Dan Treloar from Grow Blanks. Grow blanks are made in Kenya, Africa from agave storks or poles, as Dan refers to them. The internal fibrous material is strong, lightweight and a natural alternative to traditional surfboard cores. Dan talks about the agave farm, situated between two national parks filled with beautiful native animals such as elephants, zebras and lions. We talk about selecting the right agave poles in the field and sorting them into various densities to use for different blanks. Dan explains the challenges of manufacturing in Kenya and the importance of building relationships with good suppliers. We discuss tips for shaping the agave blanks and more importantly, glassing the agave blanks. Dan conducts his own testing on kite boards and also relies on feedback from shapers and glassers in the surfboard industry to create the best specification information sheet. In recent months, Grow blanks has worked with Gary McNeill to create some agave core boards for Dave Rastovich. The feedback has been positive so far and Dan looks forward to working with this A-team of shaper/surfer in the future. What started as a possibility only a few years ago has quickly grown into a reality. Grow blanks are currently available in Europe and the United States, the first 40-foot container is about to land in Australia in a couple of months. It was great to Dan on the podcast and proud to say it is the first podcast he has done. I really hope you enjoy our chat... Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#29
March 7 · 1 hr 55 min
Ep 29 - Surfboard Design Elements - Fin Placement and Fins
In this episode, Luke Howarth from Howie shapes and I discuss fin placements and fins. Fins can seem like a simple aspect of a board to some and extremely complex to others. We both love fins and learning about them, but we are not fin experts. I would suggest many shapers have concentrated more on their designs over the last couple of decades since the introduction of fin systems. The good old days of purchasing a board with the fins selected by the shaper to work best with the board would simply be glassed on. There was no second purchase to enable the board to be surfed and there was no excessive lists of fins in catalogues. For a while it seemed like the most important aspect of fins was their colour or the team rider associated with that fin. I heard people describe fin companies as arrogant and greedy due to their lack of support for the majority of the surfboard industry, only looking to jump on 'HOT' selling brands to ensure their sales. There is more to fins than that and so I sat down with Howie to chat all things fins. From single fins to quad fins, where we place our fins on boards, what our experiences have been with different fin set ups. We talk about what adjustment to fin cant or toe we have tried to try to improve a boards performance. It was a great conversation, and I really hope everybody will get something out of it. I cannot stress enough we do not claim to be fin experts and look forward to the feedback from the dust up community about wat they do with their fin placement and fins. I hope you enjoy our chat about fins... Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#28
February 18 · 1 hr 10 min
Ep 28 - Outside The Bay with John from Sanded Australia
In this episode I chat with John from Sanded Australia, a surfboard materials supplier on the Central Coast of New South Wales, Australia. The beginning of John's relationship with the surfboard industry goes all the way back to when he was a young man making boards with his friends. One of his friends was involved in building boats so that is where they sourced their materials - Expanded Poly Styrene (EPS) foam and epoxy resin. In the years to follow John pursued windsurfing and would become sponsored. This allowed for him to work with his shaper/designer and have a good insight into how the windsurfing community was quick to embrace alternative materials and push the technology of the various constructions looking for an advantage. Sanded started out from a shed in the backyard as John established himself, made important contacts and built stock. He was able to sustain this for a few years but ultimately had to secure more space. John speaks about the impact COVID period had on his business and the continual growth since. Business has been so good he tells how he will have to look for a bigger warehouse in the next 12 months. The main driving force behind John's success is his open mindedness and willingness to try different things. The collaborative work he has done with Colan Australia to develop Flax, Basalt and Pineapple cloth has set him apart from other suppliers. Furthermore, John's honest appraisal of the products he tests has surfboard manufacturers at all levels paying attention. John knows the value of good customer relations and many people I know speak highly of his customer service and quick delivery times. Sanded ships products all over the world and we are lucky to have someone like John in our industry in Australia. I hope you enjoy our conversation Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#27
January 18 · 58 min
Ep 27 - Shaper Interview with Beau Armstrong - Armstrong Surfboards
In this episode I chat with Beau Armstrong from Armstrong Surfboards. I was travelling home from Queensland when I stopped into the Bennett Surfboard showroom and was greeted by a young man behind the counter, Beau. We chatted briefly and I discovered he made surfboards. I told him I would check out his social media and headed off down the road. As I drove the many hours back to Victoria, I thought a lot about how I observed the surfboard industry and wondered what draws younger people into the industry these days. In my experience the surfboard is the same everywhere, however it also has its differences. Beau is a young man in his mid-teens that was looking for a new challenge. As he travelled home from a family holiday, Beau started researching surfboard shaping. After many hours of watching YouTube clips and dissecting what information he could from the videos, he purchased a surfboard blank and proceeded to hack at it in his front yard. Beau had been bitten by the surfboard bug and his journey had started. I was keen to hear how his journey into the surfboard industry was going, what attracted him to surfboards as well as what his future plans are. It turns out Beau has been fortunate enough to meet great people in the Sydney surfboard industry, and they have provided him with an invaluable education. I am really excited to kick off the year chatting with Beau as it represents fresh starts and big opportunities. I really hope you enjoy our conversation... Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#26
Aug 16, 2025 · 1 hr 12 min
Ep 26 - Surfboard Design Elements - Foil / Flex
In this episode, Luke Howarth from Howie shapes and I discuss the subtleties of a surfboard foil or profile. The distribution of foam in a surfboard is often overlooked but it can have a big impact on how your board performs. We chat about the evolution of foil in a surfboard and how it relates to the different styles of boards. I ask Luke about what he thinks of 'swing weight' which is a term commonly used in discussing bigger boards and explain why I prefer to focus on 'momentum'. You cannot talk about surfboard foils without discussing the various deck designs available such as s decks, single concave and double concave decks as well as the Greg Webber 'Crinkle cut' design that melted social media. Ultimately, we end up discussing flex and who we see as the shapers pushing the boundaries. Flex is difficult to measure in a surfboard and how we want the board to flex for optimum performance changes for different waves. Luke shares his experiences with stringerless EPS boards, his research and development process and how he applies carbon on them. Surfboard foil is not talked about enough but hopefully our chat will stimulate some further discussion. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#25
Aug 6, 2025 · 2 hr 8 min
Ep 25 - Shaper Interview with Scott James - SJS Customs
In this episode I chat with Scott James from SJS Custom. Scott first appeared on my radar through social media. The boards he was creating and the way he was presenting them really stood out amongst the many. It piqued my interest. I was keen to chat with Scott to hear more about his back story and it did not disappoint. Scott grew up in the town of Dunedin on the very south coast of New Zealand. He told me how he fell in love with the curves of a surfboard and sought out the local craftsman to learn. Sourcing surfboard materials was difficult and the idea of making surfboards a career was more like a dream. Scott pursued a trade and ignored his love for making surfboards for more than two decades. Then... Scott made some big life changes, including moving to the Gold Coast of Australia. The passion for making surfboards had become too much and he made it his career. I really enjoyed my conversation with Scott as he is a one-man operation and works hard to refine his craft. His attention to detail and willingness to try different things or take risks is very familiar to me. A sliding doors moment led Scott to find a solution to a design idea that had been formulating in his brain. The way in which he could apply vee and various combinations of concave was now clear to him... the 'Scoop' bottom was created. In addition to making custom surfboards for customers Scott also hosts people who wish to make their own surfboard or refine their surfboard making skills. Please note we did experience some minor internet difficulties, but I am sure you will still enjoy our chat. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#24
Jul 6, 2025 · 1 hr 26 min
Ep 24 - Shaper Interview with Gary McNeill - Gary McNeill Concepts
In this episode I catch up with Gary McNeill from Gary McNeill Concepts. I first met Gary when I was working on the Gold Coast nearly 20 years ago. From the very first meeting I found him to be friendly, dedicated, talented and a real individual pursuing his own path. Gary grew up surfing competitively, but a few changes in life would motivate him to move from Wollongong to the Gold Coast. He started working for Nev surfboards. Soon after starting work, he was promoted to production manager at a time when Nev was one of the biggest surfboard brands in Australia. In the years that followed, Gary would be poached by DHD and JS before deciding to focus on his own surfboard brand. After a couple of decades surrounded by high performance surfboards, Gary wanted something different. His first step was joining the Formula Energy surfboard family until he decided he wanted 100% control of his surfboards. It took two years of research and development with the highly talented Dave Rastovich to establish his surfboard range. It was during this time that Gary and Dave explored the Taurus channel, a design so good that Gary cannot believe more people are not doing them. Gary continues to design without constraints and is always producing something new like the 'Frankenfish'. Gary provides a bit of information from behind the scenes of STAB's - Electric Acid Surfboard Test, his journey with flax cloth as well as a few tips and tricks on how to use it best. I hope you enjoy my chat with Gary McNeill. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#23
Jun 22, 2025 · 2 hr 10 min
Ep 23 - Outside The Bay with Damien Cole from Varuna Surfboards
In this episode we catch up with Damien Cole, former CEO of Varuna surfboards. The surfboard industry is a fickle beast; it owes nobody anything and we are regularly reminded of this. Earlier this year Varuna surfboards closed its doors for the last time. Varuna surfboards was a new type of wooden construction with a focus on reducing the environmental impact as well as improving the lives of Indonesians who had experienced large scale deforestation. It was great to catch up with 'Damo' and discuss his colorful journey over the last several years. You see, Damo was not your typical CEO that exists in a world of buzz words and networking soirees. Damo is grass roots. After embarking on a career in the mines, he pivoted into environmental science, which subsequently led to him putting his hand up as an independent candidate in the local state election. If that was not taxing enough, he agreed to become an organiser in the 'Fight for the Bight' campaign - a movement against oil drilling exploration in the southern waters of Australia. Damo experienced two severe brain injuries over the last few years. He talks about going through some tough times and dark moments in his recovery. His resilience is only matched by his intelligence, and I have nothing but respect for what he has achieved. Unfortunately, the timing of his last head injury could not have come at a worst time and the realisation of how big a task Varuna was, had become clear... it was time to call it a day. I really hope you enjoy our chat. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#22
Jun 8, 2025 · 1 hr 27 min
Ep 22 - Shaper Interview with Sergio Gomez - Gomez Surfboards
In this episode I chat with Sergio Gomez from Gomez surfboards. Sergio grew up on the coast of Argentina. The town was rather large, but surfing was considered counterculture and there were only two surf shops. Sergio fell in love with surfing and on one occasion when his board was being repaired, he borrowed his friend's brother's board. The board went amazing! It was like no other board he had ever ridden, and he took up the challenge to find out why? Sergio learnt how to shape, glass and sand surfboards and as a young adult began to travel. He searched for the waves he had seen in the magazines and happily discovered it coincided with local surfboard industries. Many years have passed, and many surfing destinations have been crossed off his list. Sergio is currently residing on the west coast of Victoria and shapes all types of surfboards. During our conversation Sergio talked about various construction types he has explored and his interest in the pursuit of more sustainable materials. Speaking with Sergio, it's clear he is a very creative person and the decision to create a book about surfboard design is less surprising. The result is over 300 pages of a rich photographic gallery with surfboard design presented in an easy way to understand. The book is called ' Shape Shifter' and I would encourage you to grab a copy, you will not be disappointed. I hope you enjoy my chat with Sergio Gomez. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#21
May 24, 2025 · 1 hr 21 min
Ep 21 - Shaper Interview with Dylan Perese - DP Surfboards
In this episode I chat with Dylan Perese from DP surfboards and inventor of the soon to be released 'Leashbar'. Dylan caught the bug for shaping in his early teens and instantly knew this was what he wanted to do. A couple of years later he left school to focus on surfboards and never looked back. A member of a thriving surf community south of Sydney as well as an opportunity to work with Graham King was all he needed to establish himself a solid reputation for making great boards. Speaking with Dylan it is clear he is very determined, meticulous and business savvy. I caught up with Dylan after he recently consolidated his glassing factory and showroom to a new space in Bulli. Any praise he receives for the quality of his boards is quickly shared with his team with whom he has great respect. Dylan is also the creator of the soon to be released 'Leashbar'. A new type of leg rope plug that allows the user to attach their leg rope to the board using the rail saver and eliminate the need for a string. I predict this will be a game changer for the surfboard industry. I hope you enjoy my chat with Dylan Perese. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#20
May 3, 2025 · 1 hr 4 min
Ep 20 - Outside The Bay with Daniel Hawes from Shapers Collective NZ
In this episode, I chat with Daniel Hawes from Shapers Collective, New Zealand. Howie and I recently discussed the feedback we received about the difficulties currently facing shapers around the world. Shortly after hearing our chat, Daniel reached out to share a business model he is implementing. An Australian expat living in a town named Mangawhai, tucked right up in the north of New Zealand. After establishing Small Kine Ding Repairs many years ago, it was uncommon for him to come across New Zealand shaped surfboards in his factory. Daniel had crossed paths with many shapers in New Zealand and heard about many more. He explained to me how many of the local shapers are not supported by the surf shop boutiques and instead carve out a living doing custom orders. Daniel was motivated and felt compelled to try and promote local shapers. It wasn't long before he found himself evaluating space in his factory and deciding to build a retail space. The new showroom would be named the Shapers Collective NZ and instead of the traditional surf shop business model, Daniel came up with the idea to charge a one-off fee for a rack space. This fee would subsidize his rent, and the shaper could curate and manage the rack space. His idea quickly expanded to include local manufacturers and owners of fins surfboard wax, board bag and more. Daniel wanted to support as many local New Zealand surf industry businesses as he could. His passion for surfing and pride in locally made is undeniable. There are many twists and turns ahead for Daniel establishing Shapers Collective NZ but we certainly wish him all the best. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#19
Apr 6, 2025 · 2 hr 31 min
Ep 19 - Shaper Interview with Wayne Roach - Roach Approach Surfboards
In this episode, I chat with Wayne Roach from Roach Approach surfboards. Wayne's story is a classic tale about a boy that fell in love with surfing at a young age and developed a passion for surfboards. Wayne or 'Roachy' as he is more commonly known, was a product of the bustling surf industry in Cronulla during the 70's and 80's. Roachy worked under multiple brands including Jackson, Southern Comfort, and Force 9 before jetting around the world to shape. An avid surfboard designer who played a big part in the creation of the four fin surfboard. During this time Roachy was competing at a high level and would work with some of the great surfers in history. He finally established his own brand - Roach Approach in the 90's. Roachy moved to Torquay in the early 2000's and it was there that he attained one of his greatest desires and win an Australian title. Throughout our conversation Roachy was keen to point out the many people that have contributed to his rich and colourful life. He is still enthusiastic about shaping boards and told me he is travelling to remote Indonesia this year for a surf trip. Please note, I recorded this chat a year ago but unfortunately have been pressed for time. At the time Bennet Foam had recently closed. I hope you enjoy my chat with Wanye Roach! Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#18
Mar 25, 2025 · 59 min
Ep 18 - Surfboard Design Elements - Rails
In this episode, Luke 'Howie' Howarth and I discuss the alluring and sexiest design aspect of a surfboard... Rails. Rails come in all shapes and sizes to best satisfy the shaper's accompanying design ideas. The perfect rail is different for different styles of surfboards. We discuss some of the shaper's rails that we like as well as what makes a bad rail in our opinion. I throw a few different rail designs at Luke to get his ideas as well as give an insight into deck channels or ' love handles' and what I learnt from master craftsman = William 'Stretch' Riedel. We did try to restrict the amount of jargon used when discussing rails but they are very personal and we rely on adjectives to try to paint a picture for listeners. We hope you enjoy our chat and please be sure to like and subscribe to show your support. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.
#17
Apr 25, 2024 · 1 hr 33 min
Ep 17 - Shaper Interview with Dan Thomson - TOMO Surfboards
In this episode we speak with Dan Thomson from Tomo Surfboards. Dan is arguably the most creative surfboard designer of the last 20 years. The art of surfboard shaping and designing was handed down from his father, Mark Thomson. Dan and his father would discuss all aspects of hydrodynamic theory to improve their understanding of real surfboard design. In the mid 2000's Dan moved to America after a chance encounter that led to him riding a selection of 'fish' boards from some of the industry's best. Around the same time Dan was thinking a lot about the 'Golden Rule' or Fibonacci sequence and how it could be applied it to his surfboard designs. It wasn't long before this way of designing boards made complete sense to him and the idea of what surfboards may look like in the future became clear. The result was a series of boards such as the Vanguard, Deathstar and Vader. Dan's creativity over the next 10-15 years was some of the most prolific in surfboard history. If you look at his various model in his range, nearly every board is unique with its own purpose. When Dan teamed up with Firewire the racks in surf shops seemed to change overnight and looked very different with an array of plan shapes, rockers, concaves and channels. I was really excited to speak with Dan as his unique board designs and creativity is an inspiration to me, as I am sure it is to others. Send us Fan Mail Support the show Check out the stories on our Instagram home page to see the accompanying photo gallery for each episode. @the_dust_up_podcast If you like the music you hear on the podcast, we created 'The Dust Up' playlist on Spotify with all the songs from the episodes for you to listen to. Last but not least, please be sure to subscribe and if you have the time to rate and review our podcast.

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