The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

Phoebe Gates & Sophia Kianni

As former Stanford roommates and now business partners, Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni share their experience as startup founders and the complexities of being young professionals—from financial literacy, social impact, and navigating networking (ever been hit on through LinkedIn?). With exclusive access to top experts, they offer an inside look at their chaotic lives alongside career insights from their network of thought leaders. Watch The Burnouts pursue their dreams while trying to keep their lives from going up in flames. Will they burn out? We’ll find out.

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52 episodes
Updated May 7
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May 7 · 35 min
Why Most People Lose Arguments (Sales Tricks That Made Shelby Sapp $1M/Month at 24)
Sales master Shelby Sapp breaks down the tactics she uses to win over anyone in sales and relationships, and provides the top hacks to be more confident.
April 23 · 29 min
Shark Tank Icon: Turning $1,000 to $1Billion! (ft. Barbara Corcoran)
Shark Tank star Barbara Corcoran's boyfriend loaned her $1,000 to start a business, left her for a younger woman, and told her she'd never succeed without him — she turned that insult into a $66 million real estate empire. She breaks down the three traits every successful entrepreneur shares, how she rewired the "tape" in her head at 35, and why she still bets on people with unhealthy childhoods.
April 9 · 30 min
What Really Happens at Billionaires' Private Parties (Michael Rubin)
Michael Rubin breaks down the real engine behind his world: relationships. He shares the truth about the White Party and how Fanatics became a $40 billion company.
March 26 · 23 min
Dating 101 as an Ambitious Woman: How to Seduce Anyone (ft. Chloe Shih)
Chloe Shih tells all her best dating tips for ambitious women, from how to flirt to what kind of man to date.
March 12 · 49 min
Billionaire Makeup Artist Spills the Kardashians' Beauty Secrets & How Celebs get Perfect Faces
Anastasia Soare, founder of Anastasia Beverly Hills, reveals the secret behind the brow-shaping method that made her a billionaire and racked up clients from Oprah Winfrey to Kim Kardashian.
March 5 · 42 min
Alex Cooper: The TRUTH About Call Her Daddy and my $100M+ Media Empire
Alex Cooper, host of Call Her Daddy and founder of Unwell, details the behind-the-scenes chaos of building a media empire and shines a light on the hard lessons she learned along the way.
February 26 · 36 min
Celebrity Stylist: How To Stand Out, Style Celebrities & 10-min Morning Fashion Upgrade (Rachel Zoe)
Celebrity stylist Rachel Zoe details her rise to the world of Hollywood, lessons on how to style well, and personal stories from her marriage and her time on Real Housewives.
February 19 · 45 min
Money Expert: Quit Your 9-5 and Get Rich the Easy Way. This is What I Did. (ft. Sahil Bloom)
Finance expert and author of "The 5 Types of Wealth" Sahil Bloom breaks down how to build a life of wealth beyond just money. Sahil explains why he quit his high-paying, prestigious job, how he makes money on his own terms today, and how anyone can do the same to create a fulfilling life without regrets.
February 12 · 38 min
Fashion Design Expert: How to Make Iconic Outfits & Make It Big in Fashion (Rebecca Minkoff)
Rebecca Minkoff moved to New York City with no money or connections and turned a $3.25 an hour internship into a global fashion brand. Learn how she did it and how to do it today, plus hear about Rebecca's experience on Real Housewives of New York.
February 5 · 40 min
Duolingo CEO: How to Brainwash Yourself to Success and Get Addicted to Learning. Follow these habits
Luis Von Ahn is the CEO and co-founder of Duolingo. Hear him break down the secrets of the Duolingo owl marketing, and how to rewire your brain to learn.
January 29 · 16 min
The TOP Lessons from Building a $185M Business (Sophia Kianni & Phoebe Gates)
Over the last 10 months, we’ve had a front-row seat to the career playbooks of people at the very top of their fields. We’ve seen what actually works, what doesn’t, and what separates momentum from hype, and we’re sharing it all with you. In that same time, The Burnouts has grown into a community of more than 200,000 subscribers, and we launched Phia, which has already reached one million users and raised a $35 million Series A. In this episode, we’re breaking down the lessons that stuck with us
January 15 · 1 hr 5 min
The Money Expert: 5 Businesses That Can Make You RICH (Without a 9-to-5!) ft. Codie Sanchez
Codie Sanchez made herself a millionaire by buying overlooked businesses NOBODY told her about. Now she teaches others to do the same with her company Contrarian Thinking, and has published a book "Main Street Millionaire: How to Make Extraordinary Wealth Buying Ordinary Businesses." Learn her secrets and figure out how to get rich without hard work, without debt, and with no necessary degree.
January 8 · 46 min
$400M Investor: They're lying about how you get rich! Turn $0 into Millions (Harry Stebbings)
He started a podcast in his bedroom at 18. Today, he runs a $400M venture fund. Harry Stebbings breaks down the confidence gap holding people back, why likeability beats intelligence, and how content, persistence, and audacity quietly create real leverage.
January 1 · 45 min
Meet the 25 year-old Victoria's Secret model who's NASCAR's only female driver (ft. Toni Breidinger)
One day she was racing Daytona, the next she was shooting for Victoria’s Secret…NASCAR driver Toni Breidinger breaks down the millions it takes to compete, being the only woman racing full-time, and how social media made the difference between quitting and making it.
Dec 18, 2025 · 35 min
Meet the 25-Year-Old Taking Over the $2B Elie Tahari Empire
From sleeping in New York parks with $100 to inventing the tube top and building a billion-dollar fashion empire, Elie Tahari and his son Jeremey share the raw, generational story of ambition, survival, and legacy.
Dec 11, 2025 · 38 min
Poppi Founder: How I Went from Stay-at-Home Mom to Building a $2B Healthy Soda Empire
In this episode, Allison Ellsworth reveals the full, unfiltered journey behind Poppi—from health struggles and homemade recipes to viral TikToks, A-list fans, Shark Tank chaos, and the kind of scale that ends with a PepsiCo acquisition and a completely new life.
Dec 4, 2025 · 36 min
Meet the Cult Gaia Founder Who Turned Rejection Into a $50 MILLION Brand
Jasmin Larian Hekmat shares how a failed $38 idea went viral and transformed her side hobby into the multimillion-dollar fashion brand Cult Gaia.
Nov 27, 2025 · 32 min
Meet the Oxford Student Who Built Three Multimillion-Dollar Brands by 25 (ft. Grace Beverley)
Grace Beverley joins Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni to share how she went from anonymous Oxford fitness posts to building multimillion-dollar brands before 25, opening up about pressure, bias, grief, ambition, and what it really takes for young women to succeed without burning out.
Nov 20, 2025 · 43 min
Billionaire Steve Madden Went to Prison, SUED Adidas, Sold Designer DUPES and Built a Fashion Empire
Steve Madden joins Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni to share how he turned $1,100 and a lifelong instinct for design into one of the most influential fashion brands in the world. This episode dives into his creative philosophy, cultural impact, and the lessons that shaped his decades-long career.
Nov 13, 2025 · 46 min
How a Stay-at-Home Mom Built the $255 Million Drybar Empire (ft. Alli Webb)
Founder and beauty innovator Alli Webb built Drybar into a $255M empire that transformed the industry. In this episode, Alli joins Phoebe Gates and Sophia Kianni to share how a simple blowout idea became a national brand, what really happened after she sold the company, and how she rebuilt her identity through her new venture, Messy. This conversation is an honest look at success, burnout, and starting over.

The Burnouts with Phoebe & Sophia

Why Most People Lose Arguments (Sales Tricks That Made Shelby Sapp $1M/Month at 24)

Shark Tank Icon: Turning $1,000 to $1Billion! (ft. Barbara Corcoran)

What Really Happens at Billionaires' Private Parties (Michael Rubin)

Dating 101 as an Ambitious Woman: How to Seduce Anyone (ft. Chloe Shih)

Billionaire Makeup Artist Spills the Kardashians' Beauty Secrets & How Celebs get Perfect Faces

Alex Cooper: The TRUTH About Call Her Daddy and my $100M+ Media Empire

Celebrity Stylist: How To Stand Out, Style Celebrities & 10-min Morning Fashion Upgrade (Rachel Zoe)

Money Expert: Quit Your 9-5 and Get Rich the Easy Way. This is What I Did. (ft. Sahil Bloom)

Fashion Design Expert: How to Make Iconic Outfits & Make It Big in Fashion (Rebecca Minkoff)

Duolingo CEO: How to Brainwash Yourself to Success and Get Addicted to Learning. Follow these habits

The TOP Lessons from Building a $185M Business (Sophia Kianni & Phoebe Gates)

The Money Expert: 5 Businesses That Can Make You RICH (Without a 9-to-5!) ft. Codie Sanchez

$400M Investor: They're lying about how you get rich! Turn $0 into Millions (Harry Stebbings)

Meet the 25 year-old Victoria's Secret model who's NASCAR's only female driver (ft. Toni Breidinger)

Meet the 25-Year-Old Taking Over the $2B Elie Tahari Empire

Poppi Founder: How I Went from Stay-at-Home Mom to Building a $2B Healthy Soda Empire

Meet the Cult Gaia Founder Who Turned Rejection Into a $50 MILLION Brand

Meet the Oxford Student Who Built Three Multimillion-Dollar Brands by 25 (ft. Grace Beverley)

Billionaire Steve Madden Went to Prison, SUED Adidas, Sold Designer DUPES and Built a Fashion Empire

How a Stay-at-Home Mom Built the $255 Million Drybar Empire (ft. Alli Webb)