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The Audit Podcast

Trent Russell

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September 15 · 45 min
Ep 295: How to Engage Stakeholders w/ Scott Madenburg (ARC∙Hybrid)
In this repeat episode of The Audit Podcast, Trent Russell revisits his conversation with Scott Madden, former Chief Audit Executive and former Senior Product Marketing Manager and Market Advisor at AuditBoard, and now founder and president of Arc Hybrid. Scott and Trent discuss the human side of internal audit, including building relationships with stakeholders, creating rapport, hiring for character, navigating cost cutting and turnover, and building an internal audit function from the ground up. They also explore how teams can think differently about technology, risk, and the skills needed to build stronger audit functions. Scott will also be speaking at the Audit Analytics and AI Conference on October 21st and 22nd. His sessions will cover the dual AI engine audit lifecycle model, platform agnostic zero code methods for running a hybrid audit process, and how to evaluate when to build custom AI solutions versus relying on existing software architecture. The conference is virtual and available on demand. Timecodes 00:00 Introduction + Audit Analytics and AI Conference 02:38 AI and the Human Element 09:08 Building Relationships and Stakeholder Engagement 17:52 Hiring, Character and Team Building 25:44 Cost Cutting, Turnover and Organizational Risk 32:33 Building an Internal Audit Function 40:41 Scott's Career, Arc Hybrid and Lessons Learned 44:45 Final Thoughts Be sure to connect with Trent Russell on LinkedIn and check out Green Skies Analytics for more resources on audit analytics and AI. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Green Skies Analytics, the services firm that helps internal audit teams make analytics actually work. Whether your audit team needs help with an analytics or AI strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit analytics, visit Green Skies Analytics to learn more and schedule a call.
September 8 · 37 min
Ep 294: How Auditors Can Take Back Control of Their Time w/ Bill Engelhaupt (Auditology)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Bill Engelhaupt, author of The Productive Auditor and founder and principal of Auditology LLC, joins the show to discuss how internal audit professionals can take back control of their time, reduce distractions, and build more productive audit teams. Bill explains why productivity isn't simply about getting more things done. It's about protecting your attention for the work that matters most. He shares how interruptions, fragmented work, and constant notifications can turn a task that should take 20 or 30 minutes into an hour, and why creating dedicated blocks of uninterrupted time can make such a difference. Bill also breaks down his approach to the "Power Hour," a protected block of time where teams agree to eliminate interruptions and focus entirely on getting important work done. He explains how audit leaders can establish this as a team norm and why it can be just as valuable for managers and leaders who need uninterrupted time to review and complete work. The conversation then shifts to prioritization and productivity for audit leaders. Bill explains why teams can fall into the trap of cherry-picking easier tasks while more important work gets pushed aside. He shares how sprints, daily huddles, and clear team priorities can help auditors stay focused on the work that matters most. Bill also discusses psychological safety and its role in high-performing audit teams. He explains why auditors and clients need to feel comfortable speaking up about problems and concerns, and how leaders can create an environment where people feel safe sharing uncomfortable information. He also introduces the idea of a pre-mortem as a way to identify potential problems before an audit begins. The conversation also covers building trust with audit clients, including why auditors should focus on asking questions that encourage real information rather than simply confirming what they already expect to hear. Bill explains why asking "why?" can sometimes put people on the defensive and offers a better approach for getting people to open up. Finally, Bill shares practical strategies for managing distractions, from turning off Slack and Teams notifications to putting your phone away and preparing your workspace before starting a focused work block. He also discusses the growing challenge of AI as both a productivity tool and a potential distraction. 03:36 Why Interruptions Are Killing Productivity 05:01 How to Protect Your Attention 06:06 The Power of 90-Minute Work Blocks 08:55 How Fatigue Impacts Audit Judgment 11:29 Why Slack and Teams Make Work Take Longer 12:32 Why Humans Are Wired for Distraction 13:27 When AI Becomes a Productivity Distraction 15:13 What Audit Leaders Should Protect Their Time For 16:54 How to Prioritize the Work That Matters 19:20 The Role of Psychological Safety in Audit Teams 23:05 Using a Pre-Mortem to Identify Problems Early 24:13 How to Build Psychological Safety With Audit Clients 25:44 Asking Better Questions During an Audit 26:33 Why You Should Stop Asking "Why?" 27:53 The One Thing Audit Leaders Can Do Tomorrow 29:27 Practical Ways to Protect Your Focus 32:06 Breaking the Habit of Checking Your Phone 34:12 How Productivity Can Give You Your Life Back Be sure to connect with Bill Engelhaupt on LinkedIn and check out The Productive Auditor and his other resources for practical advice on productivity and internal audit. Be sure to connect with Trent Russell on LinkedIn and check out Green Skies Analytics for more resources on audit analytics and AI. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Green Skies Analytics, the services firm that helps internal audit teams make analytics actually work. Whether your audit team needs help with an analytics or AI strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit analytics, visit Green Skies Analytics to learn more and schedule a call.
September 2 · 30 min
Ep 293: The Future of Internal Audit: AI, Trust, and Human Judgment w/ Rania Bijlani
This week on The Audit Podcast, Rania Bijlani, Founder & CEO of RB Advisory & Consultancy, joins the show to discuss how internal audit leaders can prepare for the future of the profession, embrace AI without losing human judgment, and build stronger partnerships across the organization. Rania explains why auditors need to move beyond simply using AI tools and start thinking about how they can audit AI, govern its use, and become part of the strategic conversation around AI. She breaks down the three biggest risks she sees for auditors: failing to learn AI, using it only superficially, and becoming overly reliant on it. She also explains why discernment and judgment will become even more important as AI takes on more of the work. Rania also shares her approach to helping internal audit teams become AI-ready, emphasizing that training alone isn't enough. Teams need a strategy, an actionable plan, and implementation support to turn what they learn into meaningful change. The conversation then shifts to one of Rania's biggest areas of expertise: building trust, influence, and real partnerships within the organization. She breaks down the foundation of trust, why credibility and shared purpose matter, and how auditors can move beyond policing the business to becoming true partners. Finally, Rania shares the biggest lesson she's learned from hosting her own podcast, Impact Legacy with Rania: across industries and leadership roles, it is the human skills — authenticity, self-belief, strategic thinking, emotional intelligence, and relationship-building — that truly make leaders stand out. Check out Rania's podcast - Impact Legacy with Rania 04:35 Will Auditors Survive AI? 07:02 The Three Biggest AI Risks for Auditors 08:00 Why Auditors Need Discernment, Not Just Judgment 09:24 Why Human Connection Still Matters 14:20 How Internal Audit Leaders Can Prepare for the Future 16:34 Why AI Training Alone Isn't Enough 18:04 How to Build Real Partnerships Within the Organization 19:38 The Foundation of Trust 21:16 Why Relationships Are Built Over Time 22:38 How Trust Builds Influence and Impact 24:12 Lessons From Hosting Impact Legacy 25:03 What Business Leaders Really Care About 26:06 Why Human Skills Make Leaders Stand Out 27:28 Rania's Advice for the Future of Internal Audit Be sure to connect with Rania Bijlani on LinkedIn and check out RB Advisory & Consultancy for more resources on internal audit, risk, governance, leadership, and AI readiness. Be sure to connect with Trent Russell on LinkedIn and check out Green Skies Analytics for more resources on audit analytics and AI. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Green Skies Analytics, the services firm that helps internal audit teams make analytics actually work. Whether your audit team needs help with an analytics or AI strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit analytics, visit Green Skies Analytics to learn more and schedule a call.
August 26 · 20 min
IA on AI - Ai4 Conference Takeaways
Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.
August 19 · 6 min
IA on AI - Share with your CISO
Links: Visa Releases Its AI-Powered Cyber Defense System to Open Source Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.
August 11 · 48 min
Ep 292: AI and Analytics for Audit Leaders w/ Tim Buckley
This week on The Audit Podcast, Tim Buckley, founder of Beyond the Lines, joins the show to interview Trent Russell, founder of Green Skies Analytics, about how AI and analytics can fundamentally change the way internal audit teams operate. Trent explains why audit leaders need to move beyond isolated AI use cases and think about how technology can reshape the entire audit operating model. He breaks down why teams need an AI and analytics methodology, how AI can improve planning and reporting, and why analytics should be focused on finding meaningful insights rather than simply increasing efficiency. Trent also shares real-world examples of teams using AI agents and orchestration to automate large portions of audit planning, explains how AI can help identify risks auditors may otherwise miss, and discusses the growing importance of human judgment and critical thinking as more audit work becomes automated. He also offers practical advice for audit leaders looking to overcome management resistance and start making meaningful changes today. 05:03 Why AI and Analytics Matter for Audit Leaders 06:18 Why You Need to Rethink the Audit Operating Model 08:21 Isolated AI Use Cases vs. Real Transformation 11:17 Where AI and Analytics Are Overhyped and Underused 16:27 How AI Can Change Audit Planning 19:30 Using AI and Analytics to Improve Audit Quality 23:13 How AI Can Transform Audit Reporting 26:01 Why Auditors Need to Protect Judgment and Critical Thinking 34:47 Governance and the Human-in-the-Loop 43:50 What Audit Leaders Can Change in the Next 30 Days Be sure to connect with Trent Russell on LinkedIn and check out Green Skies Analytics for more resources on audit analytics and AI. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Green Skies Analytics, the services firm that helps internal audit teams make analytics actually work. Whether your audit team needs help with an analytics or AI strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit analytics, visit Green Skies Analytics to learn more and schedule a call.
August 5 · 15 min
IA on AI - Why Data Governance Is the Key to AI Success
What does it actually take to prepare your organization for AI? Is training your own AI model realistic? And why are data governance and process audits becoming more important than ever? In this episode of The AI on AI Podcast, Trent sits down with Brian Kuenzi to demystify open-weight AI models, model training, and the practical steps organizations should take before implementing AI at scale. They discuss why clean, well-governed data is the foundation of successful AI adoption, how process audits can uncover opportunities for automation, and why simply connecting AI to messy systems won't solve underlying business problems. Whether you're an internal auditor, business leader, or AI practitioner, this episode offers practical guidance on building an AI-ready organization—from strengthening data governance to designing workflows that allow AI agents to deliver real value. In this episode: What open-weight AI models are and who should use them What AI model training actually involves Why clean, structured data is essential for AI success How process audits prepare organizations for AI automation The importance of AI and data governance Why disconnected systems limit AI's potential Security, guardrails, and safely deploying AI agents in the enterprise Practical advice for building an AI-ready organization Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and check out the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.
July 29 · 20 min
IA on AI - The Best AI Tools Right Now for Work and Life w/ Brian Kuenzi
What are the best AI tools to use right now? Is Google Gemini finally catching up to Claude and ChatGPT? And what are open-weight AI models—and why is everyone suddenly talking about them? In this episode of The AI on AI Podcast, Trent sits down with Brian Kuenzi to discuss how their AI workflows have changed, why Gemini has become Brian's go-to personal assistant, and how businesses should think about choosing AI models. They also explore Anthropic's Co-work updates, Microsoft's AI strategy, and why open-weight models could be the next major shift in enterprise AI. Whether you're an internal auditor, business leader, or simply trying to keep up with the rapidly changing AI landscape, this episode breaks down the latest developments in a practical, easy-to-understand way. In this episode: • Why Brian switched from Claude to Gemini • Claude vs. ChatGPT vs. Gemini • Anthropic Co-work updates • Microsoft's evolving AI strategy • What open-weight AI models are • Why model-agnostic AI is the future • Practical advice for implementing AI in your organization Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.
July 22 · 6 min
IA on AI - The Internal Audit Future (or not)
Links: Tom McLeod's post Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.
July 15 · 4 min
IA on AI - Why Amazon Has Dropped its Internal AI Usage Leaderboard
Links: Why Amazon Has Dropped its Internal AI Usage Leaderboard Be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-audit-podcast Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theauditpodcast TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@theauditpodcast?lang=en Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel.
July 7 · 23 min
Ep. 291: Pioneering in the AI Front w/ Martin Preedy (Reddit)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Martin, Head of Internal Audit at Reddit, joins the show to discuss why the opportunity for internal audit is bigger now than ever and how auditors can move from backseat drivers to helpful copilots. Martin shares how he learned Reddit's complex digital advertising business by being a humble "sponge". He explains his unique hiring strategy—hiring for a "major" in deep technical craft (like data science or engineering) and teaching the "minor" of audit later. He also breaks down his approach to navigating tough risk conversations and reveals how his team uses generative AI to automate 70% of their recurring SOX testing. 02:32 How Martin Uses AI in His Personal Life 03:45 The One Thing Every Auditor Should Do 06:06 How to Learn a New Business Quickly 07:30 Why Internal Audit Has Its Biggest Opportunity Yet 10:13 Rethinking Audit Hiring: Specialists Over Traditional Auditors 14:12 Teaching Audit Skills to Technical Experts 16:12 How to Have Tough Conversations About Risk 18:04 AI Use Cases Inside Reddit's Internal Audit Team 21:24 Final Thoughts Be sure to connect with Martin on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.
June 30 · 25 min
Ep. 290: Prepping for the Board w/ Erin Banet (Humana)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Erin Banet, Chief Audit Executive at Humana, joins the show to discuss what goes into preparing audit committee meetings and how the CAE role is evolving beyond traditional internal audit. Erin explains how she builds audit committee agendas, prepares board members throughout the year, and why overcommunication is critical to successful meetings. She also shares how she uses industry publications and AI tools to stay ahead of emerging risks and keep discussions focused on topics like cybersecurity, AI governance, and compliance. The conversation then shifts to enterprise risk management. Erin discusses overseeing ERM alongside internal audit, SOX, and other risk functions, why she began with a maturity assessment, and how combining these responsibilities gives audit leaders a more strategic role within the organization. The episode closes with a discussion on the difference between enterprise risk management and the traditional audit risk assessment, along with practical ad 01:17 – Personal AI Use Cases 03:17 – Audit Committee Meetings: Cadence, Preparation & Board Communication 08:13 – Publications, AI Tools & Staying Ahead of Emerging Risks 11:18 – Over-communication Strategies for Audit Committee Success 14:02 – Taking Ownership of Enterprise Risk Management (ERM) 19:18 – Conducting ERM Maturity Assessments & Building a Roadmap 21:12 – Internal Audit Risk Assessments vs. Enterprise Risk Management 24:13 – Thinking Like a Risk Strategist: The Future of Internal Audit Be sure to connect with Erin on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.
June 23 · 27 min
Ep 289: The Future of SOX? w/ Casey Atwater (ZoomInfo & Internal Audit Collective)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Casey Atwater, former Head of Audit at ZoomInfo and founder of Internal Audit Collective, joins the show to talk about how AI is changing SOX, internal controls, and the way internal audit work gets done. We focus on what's actually changing in practice. Casey shares why SOX is no longer just a testing exercise, but a design and architecture problem. As systems change faster and AI gets embedded into day-to-day work, the way controls are built and maintained has to change with it. He explains why controls need to live inside workflows instead of being tracked in spreadsheets, and why management will increasingly take ownership of control design and execution. Internal audit still plays a role, but it shifts more toward advising, reviewing change, and focusing on higher-risk areas outside routine SOX testing. We also talk about the gap between automation and complexity. Even though more systems are being added, many organizations are not seeing meaningful efficiency gains in controls. Casey walks through why that mismatch exists and what it means for audit teams. The conversation ends with practical ways audit teams can start adapting now—by reducing redundant controls, looking harder at which systems actually need to be in scope, and working more directly with control owners to fix issues instead of just documenting them. He also makes the point that while tools and AI will change a lot of the technical work, relationships and communication inside the business still matter just as much. 1:42 — ControlBridge AI & the future of SOX 16:16 — Continuous monitoring 09:13 — Getting management to own controls 20:18 — AI beyond testing automation 22:24 — Practical actions for audit leaders 25:17 — Final Thoughts Be sure to connect with Casey on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.
June 16 · 31 min
Ep 288: The Dead-End Strategy Most Organizations Are Following w/ Angelo Poulikakos (Protiviti)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Angelo Poulikakos, Global Leader of Internal Audit and Financial Advisory Capabilities at Protiviti, joins the show for a wide-ranging conversation on AI, innovation, and what it means to stay relevant in a rapidly changing profession. Drawing from his experience helping organizations navigate AI adoption, Angelo shares how his own use of AI has evolved, why context matters more than prompts, and how audit leaders can move beyond simply becoming faster and cheaper to delivering deeper insights and greater value. He also discusses Protiviti's internal strategy for embracing AI, building future-ready talent, and transforming how audit work gets done. The conversation explores the balance between human creativity and AI, the importance of critical thinking in an AI-driven world, and why staying hungry to learn, experiment, and innovate is essential for the future of internal audit. 2:05 - Creativity, Critical Thinking & Technology 8:13 - From Prompt Engineering to Context Engineering 16:58 = What's Next for AI 19:06 - The EAT Framework for Internal Audit Transformation 29:25 - Final thoughts Be sure to connect with Angelo on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.
June 9 · 31 min
Ep 287: First 100 Days as a CAE w/ Danielle Ritter (GitLab)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Danielle Ritter, VP and Head of Internal Audit at GitLab and former CAE at Instacart, joins the show to share lessons from her leadership journey and practical advice for audit professionals at every stage of their careers. Drawing from her experience leading audit functions across multiple organizations, Danielle discusses what matters most during a CAE's first 100 days, how to build credibility with stakeholders, and why strong relationships are essential to an effective audit function. She also shares how her team is embracing AI, developing new skills, and preparing for the future of the profession. 2:06 – Using AI in work and everyday life 5:16 – Where CAEs should focus: insights vs. efficiency 6:46 – Day One: listening and learning 10:11 – Navigating the CAE interview process 13:09 – How to define and demonstrate value 16:40 – What information belongs in the boardroom 19:00 – A practical approach to building strong relationships 22:45 – AI and the future of job security 27:55 – Making time for self-directed learning 30:07 – Final thoughts: your career does not define you Be sure to connect with Danielle on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.
May 28 · 43 min
Ep 286: The Human Side of Audit Transformation w/ Aadesh Gandhre & Idania Orengo (DTCC)
This week on The Audit Podcast, Aadesh Gandhre, CAE at DTCC, steps in as guest host for a conversation with his colleague, Idania Orengo, Chief of Staff, Internal Audit at DTCC, about the human side of audit transformation. Drawing from their experiences at DTCC, they discuss how culture, communication, and leadership help build high-performing audit teams. They explain that innovation is not always driven by technology. Sometimes it comes from simplifying processes, building trust, and creating an environment where people feel comfortable sharing ideas. The conversation also highlights the importance of mentorship, collaboration, and strong relationships in driving successful transformation within internal audit. 6:15 - Early Days at Goldman 7:45 - What Makes a Great Leader 9:55 - Feedback, EQ & Confidence 13:55 - The Human Side of Transformation 16:08 - Building DTCC's Audit Culture 18:58 - Leadership Behind the Scenes 23:27 - Strong Teams & Communication 25:36 - ERGs, Identity & Inclusion 27:48 - AI vs Human Connection 30:00 - Innovation That Actually Works 34:10 - Changing the View of Internal Audit 39:50 - Finding Your Voice 41:30 - Final Thoughts Be sure to connect with Aadesh and Idania on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.
May 26 · 34 min
Ep 285: How MIT Leaders Are Building AI That Works w/ Michelle Jackson and Edgar Berrio (MIT)
This week, Michelle Jackson and Edgar Berrios, internal audit leaders at MIT, join the show. Drawing from their work at MIT, they share a practical perspective on how AI is being integrated into the audit process. Their approach goes beyond the technology itself, emphasizing the importance of guidelines, mindset, and human oversight to create AI solutions that are effective and responsible. The conversation explores how AI is transforming audit teams today. From defining agentic AI to practical use cases like drafting audit findings and improving communication, Michelle and Edgar break down what's actually working in practice. They also discuss the importance of clear governance and human review to ensure quality outputs. The episode also includes a real-world walkthrough showing how to build an AI agent using Copilot. Be sure to connect with Michelle and Edgar on LinkedIn. 1:32 - Best Chat prompts 5:10 - Agentic AI Explained 7:00 - Prioritizing Company Use Cases for Agentic AI 10:20 - Developing Guidelines and Guardrails for Agentic AI 14:23 - How to Build an Agent 25:55 - Drafting an Audit Finding 32:17 - Final Thoughts Be sure to connect with Mark on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.
May 19 · 3 min
The 2026 Audit Analytics and AI Conference Spring
It's tomorrow! The Audit Analytics and AI Conference is here! One thing I hear constantly at conferences is that there's plenty of AI talk, but not enough real examples of how teams are actually using it day to day. That's always been the goal of this conference. This year, we went back through five years of speakers and brought back some of the highest-rated sessions, the people who didn't just talk theory, but actually pulled up their screens and showed how they're using AI and analytics in practice. And if you can't make it live tomorrow, recordings will be available as well. Last chance to register here: https://theauditanalyticsconference.com/register/
May 5 · 22 min
Ep 284: Inside Audit, AI, and What Actually Works w/ Andrew Struthers-Kennedy
This week, Andrew Struthers-Kennedy takes over hosting duties for The Audit Podcast… and interviews me! We cover audit, risk, AI, and technology, with a conversation that ties closely to themes from The Audit Analytics and AI Conference, where innovation and practical adoption are front and center. We get into where AI is showing up in the audit process, what teams can realistically start implementing today, and where vendors vs. in-house solutions make the most sense. I also reflect on six years of podcast conversations with audit leaders and share one of the biggest lessons I've learned. Be sure to connect with Andrew on LinkedIn. 5:23 - Predictions for audit 2026 8:05 - AI or bust 11:16 - Most memorable pieces of advice from the audit podcast 15:15 - Trent answers Rapid fire questions 15:20 - How AI should be utilized in audit teams 17:15 - The audit analytics and AI Spring conference 21:10 - Wrap Up Be sure to connect with Mark on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.
April 28 · 42 min
Ep 283: Topical Requirement: Organizational Behavior w/ Sandro Boeri (Chartered Institute of Internal Auditors)
This week, Sandro Boeri, former President of the Chartered Institute of Internal Auditors and a globally recognized voice in the profession, joins the show. He brings a perspective shaped by decades in the profession—combining practical experience with a strong focus on leadership, culture, and how internal audit needs to evolve to stay relevant. Rather than focusing only on tools, he emphasizes mindset, discipline, and the role auditors play in influencing better decisions. The conversation centers on how the role of internal audit is shifting. From using AI as a thinking partner in everyday scenarios to the growing pressure to clearly articulate value, he shares what's changing—and what auditors need to do about it. He also breaks down the idea of moving beyond hindsight-based assurance toward becoming a trusted advisor present in key decisions. Be sure to connect with Sandro on LinkedIn. 6:00 - Dealing with difficult emails using LLM 8:55 – The Adoption Journey of AI 11:43 – What Are You Teaching Right Now 13:00 – Is Internal Audit Becoming Irrelevant 15:42 - Why Audit Needs to Sell Its Value 16:30 - Why Audit Needs to Sell Its Value 20:17 - How Do You Audit Culture 25:43 - Selling Findings 27:46 - What Happens When AI Does the Audit Work 34:05 - Why Influence is the One Skill That Will Matter Most 40:15 – Final thoughts Be sure to connect with Mark on LinkedIn. Also, be sure to follow us on our social media accounts on LinkedIn, Instagram, and TikTok. Also be sure to sign up for The Audit Podcast newsletter and to check the full video interview on The Audit Podcast YouTube channel. This podcast is brought to you by Greenskies Analytics, the services firm that helps auditors leap-frog up the analytics maturity model. Their approach for launching audit analytics programs with a series of proven quick-win analytics will guarantee the results worthy of the analytics hype. Whether your audit team needs a data strategy, methodology, governance, literacy, or anything else related to audit and analytics, schedule.

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