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The AAMFT Podcast

American Association for Marriage and Family Therapy

The AAMFT Podcast is an all-access pass to the latest news, developments, and thought leaders in the world of systemic therapy. Hosted by Dr. Eli Karam, it strives to relate, educate, and innovate one episode at a time. The episodes explore topics that relationship-based therapists care about, and features unique conversations and interviews with established experts. The show provides information and education on direct practice and emerging trends in the MFT profession.

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Friday · 1 hr 21 min
Episode 147: Training the Next Generation of Systemic Therapists
In this episode, Eli is joined by Dr. Ben Caldwell, Dr. Sarah Lyon & Dr. Sofia Georgiadou for a conversation reflecting on the evolving landscape of MFT education, supervision, and training, exploring how programs can prepare emerging clinicians for the complexity, responsibility, and privilege of working with challenging client systems.
August 14 · 1 hr 16 min
Episode 146:All-Star Panel Series with Fred Piercy & Sean Davis
In this episode of The All-Star Panel Series, Eli is joined by mentor and mentee Sean Davis and Fred Piercy for a heartfelt conversation about the pivotal moments that shaped their professional journeys and the enduring importance of mentorship in the development of systemic therapists.
July 11 · 1 hr 6 min
Episode 145: Danica Patrick and Vienna Pharaon
In this groundbreaking episode, Dr. Eli brings together female sports legend Danica Patrick and esteemed LMFT, Vienna Pharaon, for an intimate conversation about the transformative power of systemic therapy. Together, they delve into Danica's journey of healing from an emotionally abusive relationship, exploring the courage it takes to confront personal patterns and break generational cycles. This episode offers profound insights into systemic therapy's role in fostering resilience and repairing important bonds. Join us as we uncover stories of vulnerability, strength, and the deep human connection at the heart of therapy.
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June 26 · 50 min
Episode 144:Couples Therapy for Relationships with Eating Disorders
In this episode, Eli and Dr. Kim Lampson discuss the role of shame and secrecy in relationships, the lived experience of the non-eating disorder partner, and how therapists can help couples navigate difficult conversations.
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June 12 · 1 hr 24 min
Episode 143: All-Star Panel Series Bill Doherty & Patricia Papernow
The All-Star Panel Series continues with a thoughtful and deeply meaningful conversation featuring Bill Doherty and Patricia Papernow two of the most respected voices in the study of commitment, relationships, and family life.
May 22 · 56 min
Episode 142: Marginalized Couples in Therapy
In this episode, Eli is joined by Akilah Riley-Richardson for a discussion about systemic trauma, relational power, and culturally responsive couple therapy. Drawing from her book Marginalized Couples in Therapy, Akilah explores how race, gender identity, sexuality, and societal oppression shape intimate relationships and influence the therapy process
April 24 · 41 min
Episode 141: The Self Leads the Way: The Future of IFS
In this episode, Dick Schwartz and Toni Herbine -Blank join Eli to discuss the future of Internal Family Systems therapy. This conversation will explore how the model continues to evolve—shaping trauma treatment, couples work, and the broader psychotherapy landscape.
April 10 · 52 min
Episode 140:All-Star Panel Series Dick Schwartz & Toni Herbine-Blank
In this episode of The All-Star Panel Series, our host Eli is joined by Dr. Dick Schwartz and Toni Herbine-Blank to explore the role of compassion, curiosity, and self-leadership in helping individuals and couples move beyond protective patterns toward deeper connection. Listen wherever you get your podcasts or at aamft.org/podcast #AAMFT #Clinician #Mentalhealth #Counseling #MFT
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March 13 · 1 hr 40 min
Episode 139: AAMFT All-Star Panel Series Froma Walsh, Celia Falicov & Mary Jo Barrett
In this installment of the All-Star Panel Series, Eli is joined by Dr. Froma Walsh, Mary Jo Barrett, and Dr. Celia Falicov for a rich conversation on resilience, trauma, and the essential role of culture in healing.
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February 20 · 1 hr 12 min
Episode 138:All Star Panel Series Jill Freedman, Gene Combs & Diane Gehart
In this second installment of the All-Star Panel Series, Eli is joined by Jill Freedman, Gene Combs, and Diane Gehart for a conversation that will explore the heart of postmodern and integrative systemic therapy—story, meaning, mindfulness, and the transformative power of collaborative dialogue.
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January 23 · 1 hr 43 min
Episode 137: All-Star Panel Series
In the first AAMFT Podcast episode of 2026, Eli introduces the All-Star Panel Series featuring Cloé Madanes and Frank Dattilio for an in-depth conversation highlighting the enduring legacy of the late Norman Epstein. This series is devoted to legacy, mentorship, and the core ideas that advance our field of systemic therapy.
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Dec 12, 2025 · 48 min
Episode 136: Loving Someone with Mental Illness
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Michelle Sherman to explore the delicate balance between supportive love and codependency, the hidden struggles of family members, and practical strategies for maintaining connection when mental health creates uncertainty.
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Nov 14, 2025 · 49 min
Episode 135: Classic MFT Models Through the Lens of BIPOC Therapists
In this episode, Eli is joined by Dr. Steve Harris and Dr. Ronald Asiimwe, who share insights on representation, mentorship, and making MFT more accessible to diverse practitioners.
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Oct 24, 2025 · 1 hr 38 min
Episode 134: Early Career MFTs
In this episode, Eli hosts a roundtable of six MFTs who share their early career journeys navigating the transition from grad school to successfully obtaining licensure and building caseloads.
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Sep 26, 2025 · 50 min
Episode 133: Socio-Emotional Relationship Therapy (SERT)
In this episode of the AAMFT Podcast, Eli is joined by Dr. Carmen Knudson-Martin for an in-depth discussion about Socio-Emotional Relationship Therapy (SERT).
Aug 22, 2025 · 52 min
Episode 132 - The Unspoken Experiences of Systemic Supervisors of Color
On this episode, Eli is joined by Dr. Anderson and Dr. Smith to discuss their research findings and emphasize the unique training needs for supervisors of color and the sociocultural factors that often affect the supervisory relationship.
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Jul 25, 2025 · 56 min
Episode 131: Ketamine Assisted Therapy with Couples
In this episode, Eli sits down with Dr. Tammy Nelson to discuss Ketamine Assisted Relational Psychotherapy (KARP) as a potential pathway to release old habitual thoughts and patterns of relating to your partner.
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Jun 27, 2025 · 47 min
Episode #130: The Evolution of Systemic Diagnosis
In this episode, Dr. Eli sits down with Dr. Priest to discuss the theory-driven assessment and the EPIC model for diagnosing the history, structure, and boundaries of family systems.
Jun 13, 2025 · 1 hr 3 min
129: Personal Grief Rituals
In this episode, Dr. Eli sits down with Paul Martin to discuss a new model of mourning that honors the uniqueness of each loss.
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May 23, 2025 · 1 hr 1 min
Episode #128: The Importance of Therapist “Way of Being”
In this episode of the AAMFT Podcast, Dr. Eli sits down with Dr. Fife and Dr. Whiting to explore the therapist’s “way of being” as a meta-intervention.

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