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Creative takes on media, marketing and technology from Daisy Alioto and Francis Zierer. Daisy is the CEO of Dirt Media, a next-generation entertainment brand using emerging technology to tell the coolest stories about culture and collecting. Francis is the editor of Creator Spotlight, a weekly newsletter about creators across the world of newsletters. New episodes every Wednesday.

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  • August 14 · 46 min

    Resy Daughter or Line Son?

    We convene three guests to discuss line culture, the business of line-sitting, tech-enabled reservation sniping, reservation app paydays, and shame. Hosts Francis Zierer and Daisy Alioto are joined by: Francky Knapp is a staff writer at Eater, and an award-winning writer with bylines in GQ, VICE, The Daily Beast, and other publications. Brian Wagner is the founder of Spot, an invite-only restaurant booking app that uses agents to immediately book tables across all the major restaurant booking services. Jake Leiber is the chef and owner of Chez Ma Tante in Greenpoint, Brooklyn. Formerly a partner of the Wythe Hotel and founder of Le Crocodile, he’s been cooking in New York City for nearly 20 years. Find a full, linked syllabus of all articles mentioned in this episode here.

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  • July 23 · 1 hr

    Americana Slurry

    We convene three guests to discuss prep, the traditions of Americana, the Kennedys, #OldMoney, and the collapse all of these rules and contexts. Hosts Francis Zierer and Daisy Alioto are joined by: Caroline Hallemann is the Digital Director of Town & Country magazine, where she writes about culture, society, entertainment, and the world of the rich and powerful. Her work has often focused on the British monarchy, and the closest thing America has to a royal family: the Kennedys. She lives in Nashville, Tennessee. Sean Monahan is a writer and trend forecaster based in Los Angeles. He co-founded K-Hole, the trend forecasting group, and currently publishes the newsletter 8Ball. You may know him for coining the term “vibe shift.” Henry Fisher is the founder of Hank’s Americana, a style zine and multimedia art project based in New York City. Find a full, linked syllabus of all articles mentioned in this episode here.

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  • June 26 · 37 min

    Everything is iPod

    We convene three guests to discuss 25 years of the iPod, the consumer hardware End of History, and the possibility of a new consumer hardware Cambrian Explosion. Hosts Francis Zierer and Daisy Alioto are joined by: Molly Mary O'Brien is a freelance video editor and writer living in Los Angeles, California. She is the writer behind the blog “I enjoy Music,” and the host of a podcast about words about music called “And Introducing.” Liz Dorman is a technologist, design engineer, and world wanderer. She is a co-founder of Era, a company working to usher in a new era of computing with an intelligence layer for physical devices. Joy Howard is the Chief Marketing Officer at Back Market, a global marketplace for refurbished electronics. Previously, she’s held similar roles at Lyft, Sonos, Patagonia, Nike, and Coca Cola. Before she got he business degree, she was the vocalist in a shoegaze band, playing with acts like Cat Power and Modest Mouse in the 90s. Find a full, linked syllabus of all articles mentioned in this episode here. 00:00 The iPod's Legacy and Impact 03:04 Personal Experiences with the iPod 06:00 Nostalgia and Cultural Shifts 08:54 The Evolution of Music Consumption 12:05 The Aesthetics of the iPod 14:55 The Right to Repair Movement 17:57 The Future of Consumer Electronics 21:07 The Afterlife of the iPod 24:07 Generational Perspectives on Music Devices 26:55 The Role of Music in Youth Culture 30:06 The Future of Technology and Human Interaction

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  • May 14 · 1 hr 17 min

    The Cut ... for men

    In a new format for Tasteland, hosts Daisy and Francis spoke to three expert guests about the state and future of men's media. We set out to discuss a notion posed by our first guest, John McDermott — that we need The Cut for men. Over three guest conversations, woven together here, we cover the business, output, and social implications of that position. John McDermott is a Los Angeles-based journalist covering arts, entertainment, business, and media, with bylines in The New York Times, WIRED, Esquire, the Chicago Tribune, and more. He was an early staff writer at MEL Magazine and previously covered the digital media industry at Digiday. Alana Hope Levinson is a features editor at WIRED and a writer and editor with deep roots in digital culture, gender, and longform journalism. She previously served as deputy editor at MEL Magazine, overseeing features and special projects, and spent five years running her own editorial consultancy before joining WIRED in late 2025. Chris Gayomali is a writer and editor currently serving as editor of SSENSE. He was previously articles editor at GQ — and before that, site editor of GQ.com — where he edited features and longform work. He also writes HEAVIES, a newsletter about health, wellness, and modern ways of feeling good. Finally, Chris is the host of a new podcast about steroids and the "Enhanced Games," SUPERHUMAN. Find a full, linked syllabus of all articles mentioned in this episode here. 00:00 We're Exploring the Future of Men's Media 03:09 The Need for Quality Men's Content 06:07 Woke and Men's Media 09:08 First-Person Narratives in Men's Magazine Writing 11:54 Masculinities in Modern Media 15:07 Social Media's Influence on Men 17:57 Male Representation in Publishing 20:50 The Intersection of Gender and Media Economics 23:57 Opportunities and Challenges Facing Men's Media 39:44 Consumption Patterns in Men's Media 42:30 How Media is Shaping Masculinity 45:49 Economic Anxiety and Male Identity 52:42 The Crisis of Male Identity and Radicalization 57:40 The Need for a New Narrative in Men's Media 01:01:20The Future of Media Consumption and Male Identity

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  • April 1 · 33 min

    Ep. 87: The Great Slowdown

    No guest this week. Daisy and Francis discuss the concept of 'The Great Slowdown' as a response to media overload and the desire for deeper engagement with content, the idea of 'vibes gambling' in media, and Dirt's recent contest for essays on health and wealth. 00:00 Transitioning to a New Format 03:11 The Great Slowdown: A Response to Media Overload 05:58 Vibes Gambling: The New Media Economy 09:02 Creating Meaningful Engagement in Media 11:59 Exploring Wealth and Health Through Personal Narratives 15:50 The Impact of Social Media on Mental Health 21:59 The Future of Digital Interaction and Content Creation

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    March 25 · 32 min

    Ep. 86: #GuyHobbies ft. Raihan Anwar

    Raihan Anwar is a marketing leader for web3 products and communities at scale. He was a co-founder of FWB and also has his own fragrance business in addition to being a coffee connoisseur – all things we love talking about on this pod. Twitter Desire Paths - 00:00 Navigating Travel Chaos 02:25 Enter Raihan: The Intersection of Culture and Business 06:01 Exploring Fragrance and Identity 08:53 The Art of Taste and Experience 12:11 Podcasting Landscape and Market Dynamics 15:34 The New Media Landscape 17:16 Web 0.5 and Early Internet Ventures 19:22 Coining Terms and Cultural Commentary 25:37 The State of Web3 and Cryptocurrency 30:03 Guy Hobbies and Their Cultural Significance 31:45 Stripe Press and Innovative Publishing _ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by

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  • March 18 · 47 min

    Ep. 85: Artifacts of scenes ft. Elliot Aronow

    Elliot Aronow is the host/producer of minor genius, a culture imprint that publishes zines, hosts parties, and occasionally produces very handsome neckties. Inside that there's also a very discreet private studio where he works as an editor/co-conspirator with visible weirdos to ship finished artifacts. __ Elliot Aronow Instagram LinkedIn minor genius __ Timestamps 00:00 A year as a degenerate gambler 04:00 What is minor genius? 08:25 The tension between punk and preppy 18:46 Reading in public 22:25 Scene vs audience 24:49 Jiu jitsu midlife journey 27:25 A scene memoir 33:08 Never going to be a Beastie Boy 37:42 Artifacts of the 2020s 41:18 What sucks about menswear? __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • March 11 · 42 min

    Ep. 84: Stomp clap hay ft. Jesse Hirsch of Offrange

    Jesse Hirsch is editor of Offrange. He has spent years working as a journalist focused on food and agriculture, most recently as managing editor at The Counter. His work has appeared in The New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Guardian, San Francisco Chronicle, Bon Appétit, Eater, and other outlets. Offrange is a digital publication covering American agriculture, food production, and natural resources. We publish three original stories each week, a monthly podcast, and a weekly newsletter. __ Jesse Hirsch Offrange Twitter/X Instagram LinkedIn __ Timestamps 00:00 Laptop at the cinema 04:15 Sod and cranberry bog 07:15 Offrange and its mission 15:35 Knowing when to rebrand 19:57 The best meal of 2026 21:45 Covering agriculture vs food 27:27 The farming and agriculture audience 33:40 Diversification of writers and contributors 35:45 The evolution of agricultural journalism __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • March 4 · 45 min

    Ep. 83: Bread and circus and Punch

    No guest this week on Tasteland, so Daisy and Francis discuss books they haven't read, iPods, a sad monkey, and the state of modern media startups. __ Daisy Francis __ Timestamps 00:00 Monitoring the situation 02:35 The barbell of modern media 09:11 The 4 revenue streams of a media startup 13:33 Sober in New Orleans 18:26 Health is wealth 24:45 A bit vague 26:59 Texting less, going out more 28:54 25 years of iPod brain 32:46 Punch, the monkey 38:25 Stolen taste __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • February 25 · 48 min

    Ep. 82: 21st century science fiction ft. Pri Desai

    This week we're joined by Pritanka Desai, the COO at Tribute Labs & Partner at ADIN. __ Priyanka Desai LinkedIn Twitter/X The Physical Renaissance: AI Makes You Look Up __ Timestamps 00:00 Hammy Mad Men 04:38 Doomslop moving markets 12:06 The world's transition period in now 17:00 Information overload affecting perception of reality 23:24 Prediction market's role in society 30:27 True crime and information gaps 38:30 AI powered venture capital 45:05 The physical renaissance __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • February 18 · 50 min

    Ep. 81: Bookseller as human algorithm ft. James Webster

    Today on Tasteland we're speaking to James Webster, the co-owner of Recluse Books, an indie bookstore in Dallas-Fort Worth. __ Recluse Books Website Instagram __ Timestamps 00:00 Doing Italian things 03:53 Recluse best sellers 07:28 Logistics of picking and stocking 6,000 books 11:40 Bookstore culture of Fort Worth 15:05 Receiving feedback on book recommendations 17:11 Current reads 24:15 Running bookstore events 29:47 Bookstore location and community impact 36:04 Making books approachable 41:57 Reading hard books because they're hard __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • February 11 · 58 min

    Ep. 80: 36 unrecognizable hours ft. Charly Wilder

    Charly Wilder is writer, award-winning journalist and executive editor at Roads & Kingdoms. __ Charly Wilder Instagram Twitter/X LinkedIn __ Timestamps 00:00 Respect the Quad God 05:45 Maintaining a unique travel journalism perspective 10:51 Looking at the world through many lenses 17:10 The deepest culinary tours on Earth 23:50 The Roads and Kingdoms audience 28:57 Curating contributors 34:16 Joining the Roads and Kingdoms team 37:36 Maintaining and updating city guides 45:03 Thinking about food as a storyteller 48:14 The qualities of a great travel and food writer __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • February 4 · 52 min

    Ep. 79: Not his first Rodeo ft. Sam Levy

    Sam Levy is the former COO of Hinge and co-founder of Rodeo, a new app designed to wrangle the details of your social life and keep you organized. __ Sam Levy LinkedIn Instagram TikTok Rodeo Website App Store TikTok Instagram __ References Patient Capital Will Eat the World __ Timestamps 00:00 Somebody that I used to know 03:35 Patient capital will eat the world 09:27 Infrastructure for your social life 14:15 Managing the user experience 19:44 The expectation of apps as a memory layer 23:56 Types of Rodeo users 27:47 Using TikTok as a research group 35:32 Choosing the name Rodeo 37:13 The evolution of the idea 42:14 A business plan that maintains integrity 48:06 Get offline __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • January 28 · 53 min

    Ep. 78: Panic! On the tech right ft. Julia Black

    Julia Black is a tech and business correspondent at Vanity Fair and freelance writer whose work has also been published in the New York Times, MIT Technology Review, WIRED, The Verge, and others. __ Julia Black Website Twitter/X LinkedIn __ Timestamps 00:00 Resy anxiety 07:35 The reality of modern genetic testing 12:38 Substack on TV 17:50 Evolving opinions and journalistic integrity 23:48 TikTok takeover conspiracies 28:32 The shifting politics of big tech 39:00 Symbolism in politics and ideology 47:44 Holding on to what's meaningful __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • January 21 · 51 min

    Ep. 77: Radiohead message boards ft. Bre Morell from crushed

    This week on Tasteland we're joined by Bre Morell, one half of the duo, crushed. __ crushed Tour dates Listen Instagram Twitter/X __ Timestamps 00:00 Judging a book by its cover 09:29 Brits in an Oasis 14:46 Entering eBay flow state 19:46 Late 90s musical influences 28:11 Nostalgic corners of the internet 33:00 Video game musical influences 38:33 Driving in Texas 41:37 Touring the country as a vegan 44:28 To make timeless music, be genreless __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • January 14 · 49 min

    Ep. 76: Dry phone January ft. Natasha Hoskins

    This week on Tasteland we're joined by the GM and co-founder of Boys Club, Natasha Hoskins. __ Boys Club Website Podcast Instagram Twitter/X Natasha Hoksins LinkedIn __ Timestamps 00:00 The asperges defense 05:38 Into the archives 07:55 Boys Club extended universe 12:23 Golden Globes Polymarket collab 17:15 The Boys Club network 20:27 Twitter muted words reveal 29:17 Trump to Tom Brady chlamydia domino effect 35:50 Traitors in the Industry 41:43 Hooked on Reels 44:12 New year, new LinkedIn strategy __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • January 7 · 56 min

    Ep. 75: The Cosmos Girl ft. Dena Yago

    This week on Tasteland we're joined by Dena Yago, an artist, writer, and founding member of the trend forecasting group K-HOLE. Dena is currently working at Cosmos, a visual discovery and inspiration platform for creatives. __ Dena Yago Website Instagram LinkedIn Twitter/X __ Timestamps 00:00 Smoking Christmas gift 4:44 No smoke without fire 10:00 GQ editor-in-chief predictions 12:40 Name that trend 16:26 Parallel thinking and Darwinism 19:45 The Cosmos secret sauce 25:25 Why books still matter in fast media 32:19 Irony is dead, long live cringe 42:25 The rise of the Cosmos girl 49:04 AI and curation __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • Dec 31, 2025 · 35 min

    Ep. 74: One year after another

    Daisy and Francis bring 2025 to a close by looking back on their defining media of the year and looking ahead to the world of tech and media in 2026. __ Timestamps 00:00 A New England Christmas 04:09 Invisible labor of the holiday season 08:15 Dirt Books 14:13 Songs and albums 2025 18:23 Is 2026 the year of the techlash 22:37 The creator economy in 2026 29:32 Dirt reader's top books of 2025 31:44 Daisy's viral tweet of 2024-2025 __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • Dec 17, 2025 · 1 hr 1 min

    Ep. 73: It goes down in the Google Doc ft. Daniel Spielberger

    This week on Tasteland we're joined by writer and editor, Daniel Spielberger. Daniel is also the executive editor of Study Hall and the host of the Study Hall Podcast. Read the Farmer's Almanac article we discuss here. __ Daniel Spielberger Study Hall Podcast Daniel Docs LinkedIn Twitter Instagram __ Timestamps 00:00 $45 well spent, $5 poorly spent 07:36 Surprise proposal and tweets going viral 11:09 Influencer culture in media 17:50 We need storytellers 24:39 Daniel Docs 28:09 Study Hall 33:08 Too much media about media 44:32 Olivia Nuzzi did it all for nothing 53:43 Grown men shouldn't have birthday parties 58:29 Worst movie of 2025 __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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  • Dec 10, 2025 · 1 hr 2 min

    Ep. 72: Minimum viable meme ft. Jamie Wilkinson

    This week on Tasteland we're joined by Jamie Wilkinson, co-founder of Know Your Meme, VHX, and most recently, Glif. __ Jamie Wilkinson Glif Website GitHub Twitter/X __ Timestamps 00:00 Coke and Wall St 03:26 Memes are a business of their own 11:30 The evolution of memes 17:03 Relationships with social media by generation 26:45 Software sub-cultures of consuming and creating 34:37 The intention of creation 38:45 Creating for yourself 45:02 The state of vibecoding 50:40 The art and value of software creation __ Our intro song, Night Life, is written by Nakisso Peralta and performed by Chillers

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