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Talking Businessly

Daniel Coulbourne & John Drexler

We (John and Daniel) are co-founders of a small software development agency. This is a recording of our weekly "state of the company" call where we discuss the nitty gritty details of running our business day-to-day.

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#102
August 12 · 45 min
100: Daniel fires himself
Daniel took a job! John built the write-only tool of his dreams. We wonder if $1T AI valuations are real. We briefly broach Altman's wafer.
#101
August 4 · 44 min
99: Cosmetically holed
We're back from Laracon (and Gen Con).
#100
July 23 · 56 min
98: John fires himself
No, seriously.
#99
July 14 · 35 min
97: Introducing Crux
Daniel built something very cool. Try Crux here.
#98
July 9 · 45 min
96: Neither great, nor drunk
John is back from his honeymoon. Daniel played in a poker tournament. We talk about a wide range of topics, none of which have anything to do with running a web development agency.
#97
June 10 · 54 min
95: We get hired to resolve unpleasantness
We have a new client. We have so many topics we can't discuss. So we talk about fun things instead.
#96
May 12 · 33 min
94: How to get paid
We got $40k that was owed to use months ago.
#95
April 28 · 36 min
93: Be a good guy
We talk about BJJ, but I promise it's actually interesting. We plead with a former client to be a good guy.
#94
April 21 · 41 min
92: The trap I set for you seems to have caught my leg instead
We're learning a lot from early Tidy users. We're sending a cease and desist.
#93
April 16 · 39 min
91: The agency's agency
We have an idea to do Thunk marketing and Tidy marketing at the same time. And it feels like a breakthrough.
#92
April 2 · 40 min
90: You have to pre-launch before you launch
Tidy marketing is in full swing. Please join our mailing list to support the launch! tidyup.agnecy
#91
March 19 · 1 hr 23 min
89: The zero risk agency (empaneling Justin Jackson)
After hemming and hawing for 20 minutes, we are joined by the inimitable Justin Jackson. He gives us an absolute treasure trove of good advice for launching and marketing Tidy.
#90
March 14 · 49 min
88: Setting pass/fail criteria on our projects
Laracon.EU was a blast. We continue to develop the sales funnel. We need to know whether our growth plans are actually working. So we set some simple goals for the next 6 weeks.
#89
February 24 · 34 min
87: tidyup.agency
We have quietly launched our client management app. It has invoices, agreements, schedules, time sheets, reports, and more. We'll be doing a full marketing blitz soon. Daniel has been cooking up an extremely cool AI feature.
#88
February 18 · 36 min
86: Holacracy, if you can keep it
John went on a Claude frenzy, and Kapow is nearly here. We reach out to bankers and learn a little bit about how their world works. John believes in benevolent dictatorships more than "flat organizations."
#87
February 3 · 51 min
85: Our billion dollar theory of the future
It feels like there's a dark cloud over web development right now. So where does Thunk fit into the future, and how do we win? We lay it all out here.
#86
January 27 · 43 min
84: You are here
We had a very bad week. In related news, we are looking for a new client.
#85
January 6 · 39 min
83: Do a good job ™
Our goal for 2026 is to do a good job. John wants to start doing some serious, long term business development.
#84
Dec 16, 2025 · 43 min
82: AI fatigue
We gave ourselves raises. John is weary of AI. Daniel is using Claude skills.
#83
Dec 9, 2025 · 42 min
81: We set up pay bands
We hired someone. We set up standardized pay bands. We discuss how we use AI, and what makes a bad AI-driven pull request. We like Three Body Problem. John sang in choir.

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