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System of Systems

Adam Lehrer, Matthew Denicola

All culture is propaganda. Everything you hold dear is connected to that which subjugates you. Deconstruct art, culture, and politics, and attempt to understand the pervasive conformism that has saturated it all.

Hosted by Adam Lehrer and Matthew DeNicola

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  • August 19 · 1 hr 35 min

    UnSafety Propaganda (W/ Tarik Sadouma)

    Artist, filmmaker and founder of the Amsterdam art collective The Unsafe House (and, yes, former member of KIRAC) Tarik Sadouma joins the crew on the occasion of the release of the Unsafe House's new film Scorched Earth. The film, which chronicles the inner conflicts of the Unsafe House in a manner that blends fact and fiction while documenting Tarik's attempts to take over the U.S. pavilion of the Venice Biennale with Curtis Yarvin (and other exploits,) is the most clear enunciation of The Unsafe House's aesthetic and values. The conversation veers from the film, to the lie that "wokeness is dead," to the importance of reading Yarvin and Michele Houellebecq as art, and not just as political critique. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/systemofsystems/posts/unsafety-w-tarik-167137744?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link Soundtrack: The Meads of Asphodel "My Beautiful Genocide" https://music.apple.com/us/album/my-beautiful-genocide/1445305890?i=1445305893 A Blaze Colour "The New Ones" https://music.apple.com/us/album/the-new-ones/1762256954?i=1762256958 Skeptics "Spade" https://music.apple.com/us/album/spade/734206058?i=734206129 Mott the Hoople "All the Young Dudes" https://music.apple.com/us/album/all-the-young-dudes/155712973?i=155713011 LINKS: The Unsafe House https://www.the-unsafe-house.com/ Watched Scorched Earth https://www.the-unsafe-house.com/scorched-earth

  • June 23 · 1 hr 46 min

    Made You Loox (W/ Faina Brodksy)

    Artist Faina Brodsky illuminates on the difficulty (or not) of being beautiful in the art world and her and Adam wade into performance enhancing drugs and looksmaxxing. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON: https://www.patreon.com/systemofsystems/posts/made-you-loox-w-161879111?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link OST: UV Pop "Sleep Don't Talk" https://music.apple.com/us/album/sleep-dont-talk/1676648297?i=1676648709 Anenzephalia "Final Pulse" https://music.apple.com/us/album/final-pulse-live/281189783?i=281189890 Of the Wand and Moon "MEgin Runar" https://music.apple.com/us/album/final-pulse-live/281189783?i=281189890 The Lollipop Shoppe "Someone I Knew" https://music.apple.com/us/album/someone-i-knew/1735833654?i=1735834048

  • Aug 13, 2025 · 1 hr 21 min

    Joaquin Mumbles

    Ari Aster's 'Eddington' is awful SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/posts/joaquin-mumbles-136432946?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link OST: Opener: Artificial Intelligence 'Foul Play' https://music.apple.com/us/album/artificial-intelligence/80761425?i=80761269 Blutkult 'Sinister Runes' (attached) My Dad is Dead 'Boiling Over' https://music.apple.com/us/album/boiling-over/1547315201?i=1547315205 Al Kapone 'Da Death Penalty' https://music.apple.com/us/album/da-death-penalty/1441997725?i=1441997737 Ian Stuart 'To Freedom We Ride'

  • Jul 21, 2025 · 37 min

    PREVIEW It Was Not Conceptual (w/ Matt Forney)

    We're joined by author and Terror House Press editor-in-chief Matt Forney for a free-wheeling conversation about upstate New York, immigration, literature and video games FULL EPISODE: https://www.patreon.com/posts/it-was-not-w-134641634?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link OST Mark Broom "Lemon" https://music.apple.com/us/album/lemon/1347654714?i=1347654721 Slutet "Match Questions" Overhang Party "La Fantome de la Liberte" https://music.apple.com/us/album/le-fantome-de-la-liberte/306222404?i=306222410 The Fugs "I Couldn't Get High" https://music.apple.com/us/album/i-couldnt-get-high/1439276930?i=1439276943 Martin Dupont "Take a Look" https://music.apple.com/us/album/take-a-look/1455203505?i=1455203797 LINKS: Matt at Twitter: https://x.com/realmattforney?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor Matt's website: https://mattforney.com/ Matt's vintage video game Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@MatthewForney

  • Jul 16, 2025 · 1 hr 24 min

    Asgardsrei (W/ Vlad Davidzon)

    Adam's friend and Tablet Mag colleague, the European politics writer and Ukraine expert Vlad Davidzon, joins the show to discuss the state of the war between Russia and Ukraine. Vlad is a politics and war writer but also something of a bon vivant. He keeps notebooks of drawings and collages that are quite good. Vlad phoned in from the Unsafe House, the art collective (of sorts) of none other than painter and former Kirac member Tarik Sadouma. Tarik makes a brief appearance. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON https://www.patreon.com/posts/asgardsrei-w-134279195?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link OST: DK Energerytk "Egepretkv" https://music.apple.com/us/album/%D0%B5%D0%BD%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B3%D0%B5%D1%82%D0%B8%D0%BA/1681714424?i=1681714871 Kroda "Hasta la Muerte" https://youtu.be/E_m481QjdyM?si=WWm4uWX7tkmkB745 Monument Strakha "I Know Why" https://ultrasomnambulau.bandcamp.com/album/never-cry Peste Noire live at Asgardsrei https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XGVdCUdGS1w Chervi "Evil Game" https://ultrasomnambulau.bandcamp.com/album/evil-game-2 LINKS: Check out Vlad's new Substack https://vladislavdavidzon.substack.com/ The Unsafe House https://www.the-unsafe-house.com/ Check out Vlad's art https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/vlad-davidzon-ukraine-notebooks-art

  • Jul 2, 2025 · 1 hr 37 min

    We're Back (w/ Kieran Saint Leonard)

    Apologies about our slow pace, work and life priorities have distanced us from our cause, which we are now here to reclaim once more. Beginning with this conversation with UK writer and musician Kieran Saint Leonard centered around Kieran's new novel Muse, a semi-autobiographical glimpse into the dangers of alluring women and Los Angeles occultism. LINKS: Buy Kieran's book at Hyperidean Press ⁠https://www.hyperideanpress.com/books⁠

  • Jun 4, 2025 · 40 min

    PREVIEW: Jack Off of All Trades (W/ Noah Stalgia)

    New York artist Noah Stalgia discusses embracing art and leaving furniture design behind FULL EPISODE at Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/posts/jack-off-of-all-130732691?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link LINKS: Noah website https://www.noahstalgia.com/artworks

  • May 26, 2025 · 1 hr 49 min

    Nuked Overton

    The boys discuss Ye nuking the overton window and how genuine or disingenuous leftists' complaints about the Trump admin are SOUNDTRACK Plagal Grind "Receivership live" Air Conditioning "Unravel your Navel" Offenders "Face Down in the Dirt" Victim Kennel "In Case of Aggression" SUBSCRIBE to our podcast's Patreon

  • Apr 28, 2025 · 1 hr 40 min

    FriendFiction (w/Omar King)

    Writer Omar King, as well as publisher Evan Papadakis, join the show to discuss his new short story collection An Odyssey of Dingbats, published on friends and former guests Dan Baltic's and Matt Pegas' new imprint New Ritual Press, to talk about his book, porn, Los Angeles, egirl writing, "friendfiction", Hubert Selby, Jr, autism and more SOUNDTRACK The Hospitals "Hairdryer Peace" Blue Eyed Devils "Fearless" Plamen "Servants of Nothing" The Brothers Johnson "Stomp" LINKS Purchase Omar's book HERE

  • Apr 7, 2025 · 43 min

    PREVIEW Trash American Style (w/ Malcolm Tent)

    Malcom Tent is an under appreciated legend of underground rock n' roll. From entering into the punk fold in South Florida in the 1980s with his hardcore band Broken Talent, to forming the sub-underground noise rock collective Bunny Brains, to playing in one of the most important lineups of American black metal group Profanatica, to collaborating with none other than GG ALLIN, to owning the iconic record shop Trash American Style, to acting as the proprietor of the label TPOS, Tent's distinctive stamp is all over the American sub-underground. Luckily enough, he's here on the podcast, telling all of these stories. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON FOR THE FULL EPISODE https://www.patreon.com/posts/trash-american-w-126126685?utm_medium=clipboard_copy&utm_source=copyLink&utm_campaign=postshare_creator&utm_content=join_link LINKS: Malcolm Tent website https://www.malcolmtent.net/ Bunny Brains https://www.bunnybrains.com/ Malcolm's Youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/@malcolmtent5186

  • Mar 15, 2025 · 45 min

    PREVIEW The Codependent Benefactor (w/ Philip Van Den Hurk and Stefan Ruitenbeek)

    A very special episode here, featuring none other than Dutch artist and director of the infamous KIRAC film series Stefan Ruitenbeek and his benefactor, the Dutch art collector Philip Van Den Hurk. We attempt to understand just why Philip would allow himself to become a character in the KIRAC universe, which Philip explains brings him a kind of limit experience. Stefan explains the erotic dynamics in their relationship. Episode ends with Philip trying to strawman Adam with the abortion issue. SUBSCRIBE TO OUR PATREON FOR FULL EPISODE HERE LINKS: Watch KIRAC episodes here https://www.keepingitrealartcritics.com/wordpress/ Follow KIRAC at X: @realKIRAC

  • Feb 25, 2025 · 39 min

    PREVIEW DOGEing Bullets (W/ Shay Semple)

    Artist and MAGA OG Shay Semple joins once more to discuss the radical first month of the Trump presidency OST Kraftwerk "Computer Love" ESG "Shinin and Grindin" M8 "Sword Shards" Kim Fowley "Bubblegum" Peste Noire "La dernier putsch" The Bomber Jackets "Legends Never Die"

  • Feb 8, 2025 · 1 hr 34 min

    Melrose Place (w/ Zach Brown)

    Artist Zach Brown joins the show to discuss one of the stranger and more era specific art works of the 1990s, Darren Starr's adult nighttime soap series Melrose Place OST Dead Girl's Party "I'm a Tick Tock Bomb" Hunger! "Workshop" Diapsiquir "Aprés"

  • Jan 23, 2025 · 42 min

    Rockin Back Inside My Heart (w/ Jack Mason)

    The life, the legacy, and the art of David Lynch, with Jack Mason of The Perfume Nationalist SOUNDTRACK Julee Cruise "Rockin' Back Inside my Heart" Brother JT "This is the Life" Felt "Primitive Painters" Roy Orbison "In Dreams" LINKS TPN The Films of David Lynch Part One and Part Two

  • Jan 13, 2025 · 40 min

    PREVIEW Opportunism and Moralism (w/ Kat Chamberlin)

    Artist Kat Chamberlin discusses her political discontent and Dean Kissick's recent panel with Anna and Dasha SUBSCRIBE FOR FULL EPISODE Soundtrack: Mortuary Drape "Larve" Datblygu "Hollol, Hollol, Hollol" Das Kabinette "Something's On Your Mind" Mirrors "Shirley" LINKS: Kat Chamberlin website

  • Dec 23, 2024 · 1 hr 18 min

    Goodbye 2024

    Memorable art, music, film and memes of 2024 OST Red Lorry Yellow Lorry "Pushing On" Horsepower Electronics "Gorgon Sound" Thergothon "Elemental" NOFX "Vanilla Sex"

  • Dec 4, 2024 · 1 hr 34 min

    Magic Man (w/ Christopher Zeischegg)

    Author and filmmaker Christopher Zeischegg discusses his semi autofictional 2020 novel The Magician, a new film based on that text, and a little bit about his previous life in pornography OST: Cabaret Voltaire "A Touch of Evil" The Obsessed "Tombstone Highway" Metal Urbain "Ultra Violence" The Diplomats "Who I Am" Miss Kittin and the Hacker "Homme a la Mode" LINKS Christopher Zeischegg website Follow Chris on Twitter: @chriszeischegg

  • Nov 26, 2024 · 40 min

    PREVIEW Omertà (w/ Med Gold)

    Sensitive young man and friend of the show Med Gold joins to discuss too good and decent men wildly condemned and deliberately misunderstood by the media SUBSCRIBE FOR FULL EPISODE LINKS: Read Med's essay on The Sopranos

  • Nov 21, 2024 · 36 min

    Monologue: 'The Apprentice'

    Adam discusses Ali Abbasi's Trump biopic, Sebastian Stan's incredible performance, and portraiture in general, and finds in the film a surprisingly and perhaps accidentally positive portrait of the President Elect READ THE ESSAY HERE and HERE

  • Oct 23, 2024 · 40 min

    Psychogeography (W/ Chino Amobi)

    Multi-hyphenate artist, musician and writer Chino Amobi calls in from Houston to talk about his masterful new album Eroica and the state of the whole goddamn world LINKS: Chino Amobi at Bandcamp Chino's Eroica Flora Chino At Instagram: @chinoamobi

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