Sidebar Advisors

SideBar Advisors

Sidebar Advisors Attorney Podcast explores the career moves, risks, and decisions that shape a life in law.

Hosted by Niraj Chhabra, financial planner and founder of Sidebar Advisors, the show features candid conversations with attorneys, legal leaders, and professionals connected to the legal industry.

Guests share how they navigated firm changes, leadership, business growth, career pivots, and the moments that pushed them to bet on themselves.

Each episode offers a practical look at the professional, personal, and financial choices attorneys face as their careers evolve.

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#97
Thursday · 52 min
Nema Milaninia of Freshfields: From Prosecuting War Crimes to Advising on Global Risk
Send us Fan Mail Nema Milaninia’s legal career has taken him from BigLaw to The Hague, inside one of the world’s largest technology companies, and ultimately back to private practice. Now a partner at Freshfields, Nema advises companies and senior executives navigating complex investigations, regulatory matters, and high-stakes legal and reputational risk. Earlier in his career, he spent eight years as an international prosecutor working on cases involving genocide, war crimes, and crimes against humanity before later moving in-house at Alphabet. In this episode, Nema joins Niraj Chhabra to discuss what those very different environments taught him about practicing law, making decisions under pressure, and viewing a problem from more than one perspective.
#96
Tuesday · 1 hr 1 min
Cody Barbo of Trust & Will: How Technology Is Reshaping Estate Planning
Send us Fan Mail Cody Barbo has spent his career building technology companies, but his latest venture brought him into one of the legal profession’s most traditional practice areas. Cody is the co-founder and CEO of Trust & Will, a digital estate planning platform that has helped more than 1.3 million families create estate plans. In this episode, he joins Niraj Chhabra to share the entrepreneurial journey that led him there, including being fired from his previous startup and identifying the opportunity behind Trust & Will just weeks later. The conversation also looks at the broader evolution of legal tech, the rapid growth of AI-powered legal companies, which parts of the profession Cody believes are most susceptible to disruption, and what attorneys can do to remain valuable as technology becomes more integrated into legal work..
#95
September 10 · 50 min
Michael Gordon of Gordon, Fournaris & Mammarella, P.A.: How A Niche Trusts Practice Became A National Business
Send us Fan Mail Michael Gordon didn’t initially plan on becoming a trusts and estates attorney. Today, he leads a national estate planning practice at Gordon, Fournaris & Mammarella, P.A. In this episode, Michael joins Niraj Chhabra to share how he recognized an emerging opportunity around Delaware trusts early in his career and helped grow what began as a small, locally focused practice into a national estate planning group. Michael explains why Delaware has become an important jurisdiction for sophisticated trust and estate planning, the situations where attorneys outside the field should recognize potential planning opportunities for their clients, and what it takes to earn the trust of ultra-high-net-worth families.
#94
September 8 · 1 hr 3 min
Pat Murphy of King & Spalding: Why In House Isn't The Easier Path
Send us Fan Mail Pat Murphy has experienced the legal profession from almost every angle. Before returning to King & Spalding as a partner, Pat spent 26 years in-house, including senior litigation roles at GE Healthcare and Fresenius Medical Care. His career has also included time in the Marine Corps, FBI, Senate Judiciary Committee, and private practice. In this episode, Pat joins Niraj Chhabra to discuss what really changes when an attorney moves in-house, why corporate legal work can carry a very different kind of pressure, and what outside counsel often misunderstand about the executives they advise.
#93
September 2 · 1 hr
Stacey Brown Randall of Building A Referable Business: How Attorneys Can Build Referrals Without Asking
Send us Fan Mail Most attorneys know referrals matter. Far fewer have an actual system for generating them. Stacey Brown Randall, founder of Building A Referable Business and creator of the Referrals Without Asking methodology, joins the SideBar Advisors Podcast to challenge one of the most common pieces of business development advice: that you have to ask for referrals to receive them. Stacey explains why great work alone doesn’t create a consistent referral pipeline, how attorneys can identify and nurture the people most likely to refer them, and what it takes to stay top of mind without becoming overly promotional or transactional. We also discuss how referral strategies differ across practice areas, why authentic relationship-building matters more than gimmicks, and how one attorney went from receiving six referrals a year to more than 70 annually by building a repeatable system. For attorneys who want to grow through relationships without constantly asking for business, this episode offers a practical framework for doing it differently.
#92
August 26 · 1 hr 2 min
Markus Funk of White & Case: Inside Operation Family Secrets and a Career In Public Service
Send us Fan Mail Markus Funk has prosecuted mob murders, helped shape rule-of-law initiatives overseas, and built a career advising companies facing complex government scrutiny. In this episode of the Sidebar Advisors Podcast, Markus, a partner at White & Case and former federal prosecutor, takes us inside Operation Family Secrets, one of the most significant organized crime prosecutions in U.S. history. He shares how he unexpectedly landed on the case, what it was like prosecuting members of the Chicago mob, and the courtroom moment that resulted in a defendant threatening his life. Markus also reveals a remarkable detail about Casino: one of the real-life killers portrayed in the film actually appears on screen reenacting a murder he committed. Beyond the mob stories, we discuss Markus's work on rule-of-law initiatives in Kosovo, his transition from prosecutor to private practice, what he learned about business development in BigLaw, and why some of the biggest opportunities in his career came from taking risks without knowing exactly where they would lead.
#91
August 19 · 1 hr 10 min
Quinn Murphy of Gordon Rees: Building a Career by Playing the Long Game
Send us Fan Mail Quinn Murphy has built his legal career around a simple philosophy: play the long game. Now Managing Office Partner of Gordon Rees Scully Mansukhani’s Tampa office, Quinn joins the SideBar Advisors Podcast to share the career decisions that took him from a Division II basketball player and aspiring therapist to trial lawyer, business developer, and law firm leader. Quinn discusses why he began building his network years before he expected it to generate business, why he was willing to step backward in title to create better opportunities for his future, and what younger attorneys often misunderstand about the business of law. He also shares how athletics shaped his approach to criticism and delayed gratification, and how surviving stage four cancer changed his perspective on faith, family, and time.
#90
August 12 · 1 hr 1 min
Ryan Kimler of Financial Clarity: Hiring, Pricing, and Growing a Law Firm with Confidence
Send us Fan Mail Building a successful law firm requires more than great legal work. Ryan Kimler, founder of Financial Clarity and fractional CFO to professional service firms, joins the SideBar Advisors Podcast to discuss the financial decisions that shape a growing law practice. From hiring your first attorney to setting profitable rates and balancing personal income with business growth, Ryan shares practical advice for firm owners looking to scale with confidence. We also discuss why many attorneys wait too long to hire, the hidden costs of underpricing legal services, how to think about profitability beyond revenue, and why building the right financial team around your business can make all the difference.
#89
August 5 · 48 min
Brent Wible of White & Case: Success, Family, and the Doors You Choose to Walk Through
Send us Fan Mail What does a successful legal career actually look like over the long term? Brent Wible, partner at White & Case LLP and former senior official at the U.S. Department of Justice, joins the SideBar Advisors Podcast to reflect on a career that took him from small-town Kentucky to Yale Law School, the Peace Corps, and ultimately some of the DOJ's most significant corporate enforcement matters. Our conversation goes beyond the cases themselves. We discuss career ambition, public service, balancing family with demanding work, transitioning to private practice, and why some of the biggest career opportunities come from simply recognizing the doors that open along the way. It's a thoughtful conversation about leadership, career evolution, and how success changes as life changes.
#88
July 29 · 1 hr
Val Dahiya of Morrison Foerster: Building A Career Through Change and Challenge
Send us Fan Mail Not every career transition is driven by ambition. Sometimes it's driven by life. Valerie Dahiya, partner at Morrison Foerster and former SEC attorney, joins the SideBar Advisors podcast to share how an unexpected family circumstance led her from a career she loved in government into private practice—and what she learned adapting to an entirely different side of the legal profession. We also talk about leadership, mentorship, business development, balancing career and family, the realities of becoming a managing partner, and why continuous learning has shaped every stage of her career.
#87
July 23 · 41 min
Ryan Fayhee of Akin Gump: DOJ to Private Practice - Risk & High-Stakes Decisions
Send us Fan Mail What does it look like to make legal decisions when the stakes extend far beyond the courtroom? Ryan Fayhee, partner at Akin Gump Strauss Hauer & Feld LLP and former senior official in the U.S. Department of Justice's National Security Division, joins the SideBar Advisors podcast to discuss his career investigating some of the government's most consequential sanctions and export control matters before transitioning into private practice. We explore how complex cross-border investigations unfold, what companies often misunderstand about regulatory risk, why strong leadership matters during a crisis, and how Ryan navigated leaving what he calls "the best job" he ever had to build a new career advising global organizations.
#86
July 15 · 1 hr 7 min
Carolyn Daly of Cohen Seglias: Building, Growing, and Letting Go of a Law Firm
Send us Fan Mail What does it actually take to build, and eventually walk away from, a successful law practice? Carolyn N. Daly has experienced nearly every stage of a legal career: associate, partner, law firm owner, and now partner at Cohen Seglias. In this episode of the SideBar Advisors podcast, she shares what she learned from building her own firm, why succession planning is often overlooked, and what ultimately led her to join a larger platform after more than a decade of running a successful practice. We also discuss business development, retirement planning for firm owners, burnout, authenticity in the legal profession, and how attorneys can make career decisions that align with both their professional and personal goals.
#85
July 9 · 1 hr
John Hellerman of Hellerman Communications: Why Great Lawyers Still Need Marketing
Send us Fan Mail Most attorneys assume good work will eventually speak for itself. John Hellerman isn't so sure. John is the founder of Hellerman Communications, where he helps lawyers and professional service firms build credibility through thought leadership, media exposure, and strategic communications. In this episode of the SideBar Advisors podcast, we discuss why reputation is what drives business development, how attorneys can become known for the work they want to do, and why the goal of marketing isn't simply getting noticed — it's creating trust before a client ever picks up the phone. We also explore positioning, media strategy, career development, and practical ways lawyers at every stage can build authority in a competitive market.
#84
July 6 · 52 min
Shannon McClure Roberts of Blank Rome: Leadership, Growth, and High-Stakes Litigation
Send us Fan Mail Shannon McClure Roberts is a partner at Blank Rome, where she represents pharmaceutical and medical device companies in complex product liability and mass tort litigation. In this episode of the SideBar Advisors podcast, Shannon reflects on the decisions and experiences that shaped her career - from building a practice over nearly two decades at Reed Smith to making the move to Blank Rome, and how her perspective on leadership, business development, and long-term growth has evolved along the way. We discuss what it takes to lead in high-pressure environments, why authentic relationships matter in building a practice, how AI may reshape the legal profession, and why emotional intelligence will become an even more valuable skill for lawyers. The conversation also explores confidence, mentoring, career transitions, and creating opportunities for the next generation of women in law.
#83
June 24 · 55 min
Chuck Cotter of Morrison Foerster: Why Being Bad Early Doesn't Define Your Career
Send us Fan Mail What if being "bad early" doesn't disqualify you from long-term success? Chuck Cotter is a partner at Morrison Foerster and has built one of the leading legal practices serving founders and consumer brands. His path there was anything but straightforward. In this episode of the SideBar Advisors podcast, Chuck shares how he went from struggling as a junior associate to building a niche practice that eventually brought him back to Big Law on his own terms. After relocating from New York to Colorado, he found himself starting over with no book of business, no established network, and growing pressure to prove himself. We discuss how he built a practice around industries he genuinely cared about, why authentic relationships matter more than traditional networking tactics, and how tactful translating of complex legal and financial issues became a key differentiator with founders and entrepreneurs. We also talk about leadership, business development, work-life balance, and why protecting time for family and health isn't separate from professional success—it's part of sustaining it.
#82
June 17 · 40 min
Benjamin Softness of King & Spalding: Career Risk, Optionality, and Leaving a Dream Job
Send us Fan Mail For many attorneys, landing an in-house role at a company like Google feels like the destination. Benjamin Softness made the unusual decision to leave. In this episode of the SideBar Advisors podcast, Benjamin, now a partner at King & Spalding, reflects on his path from private practice to Google and back again. We discuss how in-house experience changes the way lawyers think, the tradeoffs between stability and long-term upside, and why career decisions become more complicated as family, ambition, and professional goals evolve. We also talk about AI governance, regulatory risk, dual-lawyer households, and what Benjamin calls the "cranking years" — a period when many professionals are simultaneously building careers, raising families, and investing heavily in their future.
#81
June 10 · 1 hr 7 min
Laurin Johnson of MB Law Firm Consulting, LLC: What Lawyers Need to Know About Running a Firm
Send us Fan Mail Most attorneys spend years learning the law, but very little time learning how to run a business. In this episode of the SideBar Advisors podcast, Laurin D. Johnson, Esq., LL.M., CEPA®, consultant with MB Law Firm Consulting, LLC®, joins Niraj to talk about the operational side of running a law firm — the part many lawyers are forced to figure out only after they become owners, partners, or firm leaders. Laurin works with law firms on operations, leadership structure, profitability, hiring, succession planning, and the systems needed to support sustainable growth. She explains why many firms struggle as they scale, how inconsistent processes quietly drain time and profitability, and why documenting and delegating work is essential if a firm wants to grow beyond its founders. This episode is a practical look at what it takes to build a stronger practice — not just a busier one.
#80
June 3 · 1 hr 5 min
Abe Kwon of Lowenstein Sandler LLP: Career Risk, Success, and Building a Life That Actually Fits
Send us Fan Mail Success gets a lot more complicated once you actually start achieving it. Abe Kwon is a partner at Lowenstein Sandler LLP, where he advises founders, startups, and venture-backed companies. But this conversation was really about the decisions behind the resume — career pivots, risk, family, and figuring out what success actually means as priorities change over time. In this episode of the SideBar Advisors podcast, we talk about career pivots, taking risks when things are already going well, and how he found work that actually aligned with his personality and interests. Abe also shares candidly about balancing partnership, family life, nonprofit leadership, and the evolving relationship many professionals have with money, success, and time as their careers progress. A lot of legal careers look polished from the outside. This episode gets into what they actually feel like behind the scenes.
#79
May 20 · 56 min
Dr. Anthony Mazzarelli: What Law Firms Can Learn From Healthcare Leadership
Send us Fan Mail Dr. Anthony Mazzarelli has built a career at the intersection of medicine, law, leadership, and public communication. A practicing physician, healthcare executive, bioethicist, and JD, he’s spent years leading in environments where decisions carry real human and institutional consequences. In this episode of the SideBar Advisors Podcast, we explore what law firm leaders and senior attorneys can learn from healthcare systems about: • Decision-making under pressure • Governance and accountability • Burnout as a leadership problem — not just a personal one • How incentives quietly shape culture • Why communication is now a core leadership skill We also discuss how Anthony unexpectedly stepped into media, what being behind the microphone taught him about persuasion and clarity, and why credibility in high-stakes professions doesn’t require silence. Anthony is also the author of books focused on leadership, culture, and navigating complexity — work that reflects his belief that technical excellence alone is not enough to sustain modern institutions. If you’re a managing partner, senior attorney, or professional navigating leadership in a high-liability environment, this conversation will resonate.
#78
May 13 · 1 hr 1 min
Seth Rokosky of Duane Morris LLP: Career Decisions, Appellate Law, and Why Having a Plan Matters
Send us Fan Mail Seth Rokosky, partner at Duane Morris LLP, didn’t build his career by following a straight line. From choosing New York over D.C. to make a dual legal career work, to carving out an appellate practice where few opportunities existed, Seth shares how long-term thinking, tradeoffs, and persistence shaped his path. In this episode, we talk about how he approached career decisions alongside his wife, what it really takes to build a niche practice from the ground up, and how his background in competitive chess influences the way he thinks about strategy, risk, and decision-making. A practical conversation on planning ahead, adapting when things don’t go as expected, and building a career that actually fits your life.

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