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  • S12 · E7
    Thursday · 52 min

    Agents are taking over data! So what comes next? with Tristan Handy

    Agents will build data infrastructure at every layer and become its primary consumers. Tristan Handy, President and Co-founder of Fivetran / dbt Labs joins Juan and Tim where we unpack the big shift that is happening: teams need to move from working in the process (picking up individual tickets) to working on the process (building the factories that handle those tickets). In this episode, we break down what this means for data roles, why open components matter more than vendor stacks, and the socio-political problem nobody's talking about, deciding what counts as truth so your agents (and humans) ask the right questions in the first place. Topics discussed: Agents as builders and consumers Data roles are collapsing From working IN to working ON Loop building as the competitive advantage Business understanding beats technical specs From humans in the loop to humans out of the loop Open components over vendor stacks Defining truth is a political problem Data observability becomes business observability Real-time becomes necessary Humans delegate outcomes, set goals, sit in control See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E7
    Thursday · 5 min

    TAKEAWAY - Agents are taking over data! So what comes next? with Tristan Handy

    This is the takeaway episode with Tristan Handy, President and Co-founder of Fivetran / dbt Labs where he joins Juan and Tim to discuss how agents will build data infrastructure at every layer and become its primary consumers. We unpack the big shift that is happening: teams need to move from working in the process to working on the process, what this means for data roles, why open components matter more than vendor stacks, and the socio-political problem nobody's talking about, deciding what counts as truth so your agents (and humans) ask the right questions in the first place. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • Wednesday · 22 min

    Speed, Cost, Quality: Pick All Three — Inside ServiceNow's Globalization Agent

    #Localization #Globalization #ServiceNow #AI A translation can be word-for-word accurate and still be completely wrong. In this episode, Bobby Brill sits down with Sam Smyth, Product Manager on the globalization side at ServiceNow, to get into what happens after you decide to go multilingual — the tools, the governance, and the quiet work nobody sees until it breaks. Sam spent fifteen years in localization operations and management before joining ServiceNow, and he's blunt about what actually goes wrong: it's rarely the translator. It's the content you sent them. We get into Localization Workspace, the new globalization agent that builds a glossary from your knowledge articles in minutes, why every customer still insists on a human in the loop, and the one mistake that will break your product UI in six languages at once. Past Localization episodes: https://youtu.be/4ka4qLk8Uj0 https://youtu.be/cGXCnABXKow Guest: Sam Smyth, Product Manager - ServiceNow Chapters 00:00 "People don't see localization until it goes wrong" 00:22 Translation vs. localization — a quick recap 00:56 Meet Sam Smyth: fifteen years in localization 01:37 When a perfect translation is still wrong 03:34 Why customers don't want to leave the platform 04:07 Localization Workspace: no more spreadsheets and email chains 05:13 The surprise: everybody still wants a human in the loop 05:38 Speed, cost, quality — picking all three 06:55 Inside the globalization agent 08:50 Who approves the terms? (And which shade of green?) 09:55 Language governance and the invisible costs 11:49 AI, volume, and doing the work upstream 13:02 Where to actually start with a glossary 16:28 A day in the life of a localization program manager 18:56 Shifting left: from firefighting to strategy 20:35 The one mistake: never hardcode your UI 22:10 Wrap-up ServiceNow Training and Certification: https://www.servicenow.com/services/training-and-certification.html ServiceNow Insights podcast playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCOmiTb5WX3qvGq7Cp3o2KkCiplJyqQOK Servicenow.com: https://www.servicenow.com See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E6
    September 25 · 50 min

    AI Inherits the Business Choices You Never Made with David Krauza

    AI doesn't create your problems. It inherits the business choices you never made and the results nobody owns. David Krauza, VP of Data Strategy and Governance at Comcast, joins Juan and Tim to make the case that most "data problems" aren't data problems at all. They are accountability problems, definition problems, assumption problems, and what-are-we-even-measuring problems. The fix isn't better tooling. Data teams are so focused on delivery that they never stop to ask what the business is actually trying to do. It's going to the C-suite, asking about the top three goals, and following the definitions until the cracks show up. Topics discussed: AI inherits your unmade decisions The output trap Definitions are the real foundation Talk to the business Data as a cost center vs. a value driver Single source of data, multiple versions of the truth Think like a product owner The revenge of the liberal arts majors See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E6
    September 25 · 6 min

    TAKEAWAY - AI Inherits the Business Choices You Never Made with David Krauza

    This is the takeaway episode with David Krauza, VP of Data Strategy and Governance at Comcast who makes the case that AI doesn't create your problems, it inherits the business choices you never made and the results nobody owns. David joins Juan and Tim and discuss the accountability problems, definition problems, assumption problems, and what-are-we-even-measuring problems. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E5
    September 16 · 47 min

    Harvest Now, Decrypt Later: Why Quantum Is Already a Data Problem with John Licata

    Most quantum conversations are stuck on the timeline question: five years out? Two? Q-Day, the day current RSA encryption breaks, keeps getting pulled forward. But the actual risk to your data is already here. Adversaries are harvesting encrypted data today to decrypt it once quantum gets there. That makes this a data management problem right now. John Licata, ServiceNow's futures director and quantum lead joins Juan and Tim, to unpack what this actually means for enterprise data teams. They get into where quantum computing does things classical AI genuinely can't do well: drug discovery, supply chain simulation, personalized medicine, where the quantum + AI combination changes everything, and who even owns quantum strategy? CISO? COOs? But the real argument is on the business value topic, not just focusing on risk mitigation which is where the real argument lives right now. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E5
    September 16 · 6 min

    TAKEAWAY - Harvest Now, Decrypt Later: Why Quantum Is Already a Data Problem with John Licata

    This is the takeaway episode with John Licata, ServiceNow's futures director and quantum lead where Juan and Tim unpack what quantum means for enterprise data teams.They get into where quantum computing does things classical AI genuinely can't do well: drug discovery, supply chain simulation, personalized medicine, where the quantum + AI combination changes everything, and who even owns quantum strategy? CISO? COOs? But the real argument is on the business value topic, not just focusing on risk mitigation which is where the real argument lives right now. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • September 16 · 21 min

    How Voice AI Learns to Understand You

    What did I say? What did I mean? Do you understand me? We ask each other those three questions constantly without noticing. Now we ask them of machines — and this episode is about what happens in the gap. Host Bobby Brill pulls together conversations with the ServiceNow linguists, research engineers, and AI governance leads working on voice, language, and chat, including a real recording of a voice agent failing in real time. Same words. Different meaning. And a machine in the middle trying to work out which one you intended. In this episode: Why a single English word carries no meaning without context, and what that does to translation How a name that isn't in the training data breaks the first model in the chain The three-model cascade behind every voice agent, and what gets lost at each handoff A voice agent that hears a confirmation code correctly three times and rejects it three times Why formality — tu or vous — is a fluency problem, not a grammar problem Who decides what's acceptable for an AI to say when the same word is fine in London and not in Chicago. Check out our past episodes on voice and voice AI: https://youtu.be/cGXCnABXKow https://youtu.be/yxoHmZj5gOk https://youtu.be/x7Ks932T18o Guests: Lyena Solomon, Director of Globalization and Accessibility Midam Kim, Machine Learning Engineer Tara Bogavelli, Research Engineer Katrina Stankovic, Staff Machine Learning Engineer Gabrielle Gauthier-Melançon, Staff Applied Research Scientist Louis-Philippe Morin, AI Governance Product Manager CHAPTERS 0:00 "Half ten" — same words, an hour apart 2:04 What did I say: the word "order" 3:19 The name a machine can't hear 5:23 Three models handing meaning to each other 8:19 Naming conventions 10:04 Listen: a voice agent fails 14:47 Tu or vous: talking to you correctly 16:39 Who decides what's acceptable 18:49 Teaching it the way you'd teach a kid 20:15 Why any of this matters For more information, see: ServiceNow Training and Certification: http://www.servicenow.com/services/training-and-certification.html ServiceNow Community: https://community.servicenow.com/community ServiceNow Insights Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCOmiTb5WX3qvGq7Cp3o2KkCiplJyqQOK For general information about ServiceNow, visit: http://www.servicenow.com/ #ServiceNow #VoiceAI #AI #ConversationalAI #Localization #AIGovernance See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E4
    September 9 · 49 min

    Why Data Teams Fail and Succeed with Shachar Meir

    Shachar MEIR has spent 20 years fixing data teams and understanding why they fail. In this live episode, Shachar joins Juan and Tim to discuss the reason why they fail and what they should be doing in order to succeed. Shachar argues that data leaders default to what they can control (cough cough technology_ and underinvest in people, process, and culture. A new CDO comes in, migrates legacy databases to a cloud data platform, and two years later you have the same problems on a better platform. We get into what's actually missing: building trust in data (which takes time and breaks fast), creating incentives so people actually use what data teams build, and spending real time in the business which is not asking what dashboards they need, but what problems they have. Topics discussed: Technology is not why data teams fail Why data leaders default to technology People, process and CULTURE Data trust Incentives Understanding the business Dashboard bloat Self-service analytics Dashboards aren't dead What CDOs do well and what they miss See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E4
    September 9 · 7 min

    TAKEAWAY - Why Data Teams Fail and Succeed with Shachar Meir

    This is the takeaway episode with Shachar Meir, who has spent 20 years fixing data teams and understanding why they fail. In this live episode, Shachar joins Juan and Tim to discuss the reason why they fail and what they should be doing in order to succeed. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E3
    September 3 · 38 min

    Intelligence Without Action Is Just Overhead with Patrick McGarry

    Patrick McGarry, Federal CDO at ServiceNow and author of The Adaptive Organization, has spent years watching organizations accumulate data and tools but fail to convert them into decisions. Overhead grows. Outcomes don't. Hence “Intelligence Without Action Is Just Overhead.” Patrick joins Juan and Tim to walk through why federal data programs stall (the idea-to-deployment lag is long enough that the tech moves on), why incentives matter more than mandates, and why the right question should not be "how do we get AI ready" and instead should be "how do we make our organization accountable for AI." Topics discussed: Intelligence vs. action Ownership and outcomes Federal government's speed problem The CATALOG framework: Culture & Talent, Analytics & AI, Technology & Architecture, Alignment, Leadership & Governance, Operations & Delivery, Growth & Measurement. Governance as clarity, not bureaucracy Open standards, vendor lock-in, semantics, interoperability Regulatory standards as a double-edged sword See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E3
    September 3 · 6 min

    TAKEAWAY Intelligence Without Action Is Just Overhead with Patrick McGarry

    This is the takeaway episode with Patrick McGarry, Federal CDO at ServiceNow and author of The Adaptive Organization, who has spent years watching organizations accumulate data and tools but fail to convert them into decisions. Overhead grows. Outcomes don't. Hence “Intelligence Without Action Is Just Overhead.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E2
    August 26 · 43 min

    Data Products Done Right: Lessons from Capital One's Journey at Scale with Bethany Sehon

    Most companies slapping the "data product" label on existing data assets are fooling themselves. Bethany Sehon, Enterprise Data Leader at Capital One, has been building data products and ontologies in production long before they became buzzwords. Bethany joins Juan and Tim to share lessons learned: dedicated data product managers (not side-of-desk), ontologists treated as first-class citizens, a VP-accountable governance process, and much more. Topics discussed: Data products as a discipline, not a label Governance process as the forcing function Dedicated roles, not side-of-desk work Ontology as a strategic function Standardization is necessary but not sufficient Less is more on scope Trust is consumer-specific AI expands what counts as a data product See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E2
    August 26 · 6 min

    TAKEAWAY - Data Products Done Right: Lessons from Capital One's Journey at Scale with Bethany Sehon

    This is the takeaway episode with Bethany Sehon, Enterprise Data Leader at Capital One where she share lessons learned of building data products and ontologies in production long before they became buzzwords: dedicated data product managers (not side-of-desk), ontologists treated as first-class citizens, a VP-accountable governance process, and much more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • August 20 · 22 min

    Why Translation Isn't the Same as Understanding | Multilingual Content at ServiceNow

    Why multilingual content is a business risk, a compliance question, and an AI-readiness problem - not just a translation checkbox - with ServiceNow's Lyena Solomon. #ServiceNow #Localization #Globalization #AI Chapters 00:00 Cold open: "half ten" and the meaning problem 00:29 Welcome + episode topic 00:53 Meet Lyena Solomon 01:12 Why this isn't just translation 03:49 The word "order" - context matters 05:05 What is language governance? 06:04 Translating "pizza" 07:03 The regulatory reality (Quebec, EU AI Act) 09:30 Self-localization: Maori and Inuktitut 13:23 The real business risk of inconsistency 15:43 AI readiness and language risk 16:28 A support ticket in three languages 20:32 It's about trust, not just translation 21:11 Closing thought: the joy of understanding 22:17 Wrap-up + subscribe For more about ServiceNow - https://www.youtube.com/@ServiceNowDocs To watch these episodes on YouTube - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxoHmZj5gOk&list=PLCOmiTb5WX3qvGq7Cp3o2KkCiplJyqQOK See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • S12 · E1
    August 19 · 48 min

    Honest No-BS Data Podcast 7th Year and Season 12 Kick Off

    This is the start of our 7th year of doing the podcast. Juan and Tim kick off the 12th season sharing who are the upcoming guests and what's the latest on their mind about this crazy data and AI world: The new website (honestnobsdata.com) and discussed building a knowledge graph of the podcast itself Two types of semantics: for AI context vs. for system interoperability The vendor hype gap vs. practitioner reality AI agent proliferation and the governance surface area explosion AI cybersecurity: models escaping their sandboxes The economics of AI: accuracy, latency, and token cost as the new CAP theorem The great convergence, "triangle of consolidation" and “postmodern data stack” OSI and Apache Nessie Work as the center of gravity Bridging the operational and analytics worlds See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • August 5 · 20 min

    Teaching a Computer to Speak | Voice AI in the Real World

    Voice AI sounds simple until you try to deploy it at scale — across airports, accents, languages, and thousands of employees at once. In this episode of ServiceNow Insights, host Bobby Brill sits down with Midam Kim, an ML engineer and linguist at ServiceNow, to unpack what it actually takes to build voice AI as an enterprise product. From the out-of-vocabulary problem (why AI still struggles with names) to why turn-taking in conversation is a linguistic skill most people never think about, Midam breaks down the human science behind the technology. In this episode: - Why voice AI is replacing typing as the default way to interact with enterprise systems - The difference between building for employees (B2B) vs. building for their customers (B2B2C) - Why an airport is one of the hardest possible environments for voice AI — and what ServiceNow does about it - The "out-of-vocabulary" problem: why AI still struggles with names, accents, and rare expressions - Why ServiceNow's secret sauce is hiring linguists, not just engineers - The linguistic framework behind every voice interaction: sounds, words, and turn-taking - Why voice AI is like teaching a kid to speak for the first time Chapters 00:00 — Welcome to ServiceNow Insights 00:22 — Meet Midam Kim, ML Engineer & Linguist 00:35 — Why voice is replacing typing 01:48 — What voice AI actually does for employees 03:40 — B2B vs. B2B2C: who's really using this? 05:11 — Desk employee vs. airport traveler: two different problems 06:42 — Building for an ever-changing environment 08:53 — Why airports are the hardest use case 09:54 — Accents, fluency, and the diversity problem 11:20 — "My Name Is. My Name Is. My Name Is." — the OOV problem 12:50 — The coffee shop name story 13:20 — How ServiceNow trains its models 14:59 — The 3 linguistic layers: sounds, words, interaction 16:38 — Midam's turn-taking story from Korea 18:33 — Why voice agents can't be "that person you avoid" 20:16 — "We can make it great" Subscribe for more ServiceNow Insights episodes on AI, voice technology, and enterprise innovation. Related episode: Voice AI Agent Evaluation — how ServiceNow measures whether voice AI meets human expectations. https://youtu.be/x7Ks932T18o For more about voice in AI from Midam Kim - https://youtu.be/3NUf6W_FMWs?is=wGc7BfyhiDp8JlOW #VoiceAI #EnterpriseAI #ServiceNow #ArtificialIntelligence #Linguistics #ConversationalAI #AIProduct #Podcast See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • July 22 · 25 min

    ServiceNow Process Intelligence | Don't Automate the Chaos

    Most organizations deploying AI agents can’t answer a basic question: is it actually working? Not whether the agent runs — whether the process actually got better. In Episode 3 of our process mining and process intelligence series, Damian Pascale and Roz Parpia join host Bobby Brill to go deep on what it actually looks like to run process intelligence with AI in the mix — from the AI Visibility Gap, to a four-step framework for finding the right AI use cases, to what “closed loop intelligence” really means once agents are governing agents. This episode’s answer to the recurring question: don’t automate the chaos. Find it, understand it, improve it — then, and only then, streamline it. CHAPTERS 0:00 Introduction — Damian Pascale & Roz Parpia 0:56 “Don’t automate the chaos” — where the phrase comes from 2:25 Process mining vs. process intelligence — what actually changed 4:21 The linchpin: where AI fits across all three layers 5:36 The AI Visibility Gap — what most organizations are missing 6:56 A real example: when agent metrics look great, but quality doesn’t 8:13 The four-step framework: Find, Understand, Improve, Streamline 11:27 Where AI comes into streamlining — sizing the right use cases 13:19 Does the order of the four steps actually matter? 14:04 Task Mining — the human side process mining can’t see 15:19 A concrete example: the procurement approval bottleneck 16:31 The closed loop — six steps to continuous improvement 17:30 Why you can never skip the ‘detect’ step 18:05 Measuring real impact with the compare feature 19:25 Governance and AI Control Tower, explained simply 20:46 Mining the agents themselves — a third layer of visibility 21:36 Closed loop intelligence — the three layers, confirmed 22:48 Day one: what to do after deploying your first agent 23:38 Closing thoughts from both guests 24:26 Wrap-up IN THIS EPISODE • Why an AI agent doesn’t fix a broken process — it just runs the broken process faster • The real difference between process mining and process intelligence: three layers in one • The AI Visibility Gap: why almost every customer has deployed an agent, but few can prove it’s working • A real customer example — an agent that improved response time but quietly increased the reopen rate • The four-step framework for AI-ready process improvement: Find, Understand, Improve, Streamline • The 2–15 minute rule (and the 3–9 minute sweet spot) for sizing the right AI agent use cases • Why skipping straight to automation is exactly how you end up automating the chaos • Task Mining and the procurement approval example — 45 minutes across four systems, invisible to process mining alone • The six steps of the closed loop, and why the ‘detect’ step is the one everyone skips • Using the compare feature to measure whether an AI agent actually helped — or just moved the problem • AI Control Tower, explained simply — and how it becomes a third layer of process intelligence • Closed loop intelligence: the agent, the governance, and the agent’s own behavior — all observable, all improving GET STARTED If you’re a ServiceNow customer, you already have access to free evaluation projects — no license needed. https://www.servicenow.com/au/products/process-mining/get-started.html https://www.servicenow.com/docs/r/now-intelligence/process-mining/process-mining.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVrU0TQ7ldM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLKROYqnc10 #ServiceNow #ProcessMining #ProcessIntelligence #AIAgents #AgenticAI #TaskMining #AIGovernance #AIControlTower #WorkflowAutomation #DigitalTransformation #ContinuousImprovement #ClosedLoopIntelligence #ServiceNowPodcast #EnterpriseAI #DontAutomateTheChaos See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • July 9 · 23 min

    ServiceNow Process Intelligence | From Sticky Notes to Process Maps in Five Minutes

    Is process mining just Six Sigma with better software? Two former Lean Six Sigma consultants — now Product Managers at ServiceNow — answer that question. The answer is more interesting than you’d expect. Tomas Galle (Six Sigma Black Belt) and Roz Parpia (Green Belt) join host Bobby Brill to trace process intelligence from factory floors and sticky-note whiteboards to process maps generated in under ten minutes from data you already own. They cover the real cost of the old way, non-conformance, the ServiceNow Playbooks feature, Task Mining, and the question every AI agent deployment should be asking but usually isn’t: did the process actually get better? CHAPTERS 0:00 Introduction — Tomas Galle & Roz Parpia 2:02 Is process mining just Six Sigma? 4:13 The belt system explained — Black Belt, Green Belt, and the punchline 4:58 Manufacturing observation: what process improvement looked like before 7:51 The real cost of the old way — six figures, six months, one process 8:46 Customer reaction: ten years of work, solved in ten minutes 9:03 Where ServiceNow sits in the Process Intelligence market 10:56 Annual physical vs. wearable — continuous vs. snapshot 13:13 Conformance checking and the happy path 14:10 Non-conformance: what it is and why everyone should care 16:58 Static statistics vs. analysis on the move 17:05 Playbooks: responding to non-conformance in real time 18:54 How to get started today — free evaluation projects, no license needed 20:26 Task Mining: the human layer process mining can’t see 22:00 You’re already sitting on a goldmine 22:53 Closing thoughts IN THIS EPISODE • Why “that’s just Six Sigma” is actually the right reaction — and what it’s still missing • Frederick Taylor’s stopwatch, the Gemba walk, and how the factory floor became the IT service desk • Why a single process improvement engagement used to cost six figures and take up to six months • The Gartner Magic Quadrant for Process Intelligence — and Roz’s candid take on where ServiceNow really stands • The wearable vs. annual physical: why continuous process mining beats the yearly audit • Conformance checking and the happy path — what it means when your process deviates • Non-conformance explained with a real change management example (87% vs. 98% CAB approval) • How the ServiceNow Playbooks feature turns detection into real-time correction with one click • Task Mining: what people do in Outlook, Teams, and Excel that never appears in your process map • How to start mining your own data today — no license required, no IT admin needed GET STARTED If you’re a ServiceNow customer, you already have access to free evaluation projects — no license needed. https://www.servicenow.com/au/products/process-mining/get-started.html https://www.servicenow.com/docs/r/now-intelligence/process-mining/process-mining.html https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVrU0TQ7ldM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLKROYqnc10 TAGS #ServiceNow #ProcessMining #ProcessIntelligence #SixSigma #LeanSixSigma #TaskMining #AIAgents #WorkflowAutomation #DigitalTransformation #ContinuousImprovement #NonConformance #Playbooks #ServiceNowPodcast #EnterpriseAI #ProcessImprovement #GembaWalk #ConformanceChecking See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

  • June 17 · 23 min

    The Cost of Building the Right Thing | AI, Speed & Discernment at ServiceNow

    Engineering teams are building ten times — even a hundred times — more than they could two years ago. That's a win, but one not without challenges. Because the cost of building the right thing has climbed exponentially. In this episode of the ServiceNow Insights podcast, host Bobby Brill sits down with three leaders who are living this tension from three distinct angles: the content and design leader who first spotted the productivity math problem, the design VP pushing for discernment over speed, and the research lead keeping the human at the center. ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ IN THIS EPISODE ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ DAVID HOARE — Group VP, Digital Content & Design, ServiceNow ANAND THARANATHAN — Group VP, Product Research & Insights, ServiceNow DANTLEY DAVIS — SVP of Design, ServiceNow ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ CHAPTERS ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 0:00 Introduction & Guest Intros 1:13 David: The AI Philosophy — ChatGPT as genuine inflection point 3:02 David: Economic viability — why AI unlocks what was never possible before 3:12 Anand: Three-person startups scaling to $100M+ 3:45 Dantley: From 3D Studio Max to Jarvis — AI as human superpower 6:29 Anand: The customer north star hasn't changed 7:10 David: Engineering's survival problem — the 100x production gap 8:32 David: Andrew Ng's PM-to-engineer ratio + the cost of building wrong 9:40 Dantley: Nine concepts in an hour — design velocity and discernment 12:04 Dantley: The hip-hop tastemaker — slowing down as part of the process 14:20 David: Content governance — the fox guarding the hen house 16:21 Anand: Trust and the human-AI system 17:20 Dantley: AI surprise — UI tech stacks, feature completeness & hidden tech debt 20:21 18-Month Close — Anand, Dantley & David ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ KEY TAKEAWAYS ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ • Engineering is the first function to see massive AI productivity gains — but that creates a gap every other function has to survive • The cost of building has dropped. The cost of building the wrong thing has climbed exponentially • Discernment is the bottleneck — not speed. Nine concepts in an hour still needs a tastemaker • AI quality is only as good as the content signals it receives — governance is not optional • The customer north star hasn't changed. AI just changes how fast you can move toward it • Customer value is the only metric that matters. Everything else is the path to it ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ ABOUT THIS PODCAST ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ Subscribe for new episodes on AI, product, engineering, and the future of work. #ServiceNow #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #ProductDesign #SoftwareEngineering #ContentGovernance #DesignLeadership #AIStrategy #ProductManagement #EngineeringLeadership #TechLeadership #FutureOfWork #ServiceNowInsights #MachineLearning #Innovation #DesignThinking #TechPodcast #AIProductivity #DigitalTransformation #CustomerValue See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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