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Scrolling 2 Death

Nicki Petrossi

Scrolling 2 Death is a podcast for parents who are worried about social media. Through interviews with parents and experts, we explore smartphone use, screen time, school-issued devices, social media use and so much more.

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  • 23 episodes
  • weekly
  • Avg 39 min
  • English
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  • March 5 · 49 min

    [BONUS EPISODE] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Meta Whistleblower Brian Boland

    What really happens inside one of the most powerful companies in the world? This week, we sit down with Brian Boland, a former senior leader at Facebook (pre-Meta), who spent more than a decade helping build and scale Facebook and Instagram's advertising systems — and later testified in court about what he saw. Brian was in the courtroom for nearly five hours. In this candid conversation, he pulls back the curtain on: What it feels like to testify under oath against your former company How Meta’s internal culture shifted after whistleblowers like Frances Haugen spoke out The reality of Mark Zuckerberg’s power inside the company — and why the board can’t remove him How algorithms are built, tested, and optimized — and why even engineers don’t fully understand their long-term impacts Whether Meta is truly incentivized to limit teen usage The truth about ad revenue from minors How accurate age-estimation technology really is — and why that matters What whistleblowing actually costs the people who do it Brian doesn’t call for the end of social media. In fact, he believes these platforms could be built to strengthen communities. But he’s clear: the current incentives — profit, growth, daily active users — drive decisions that put engagement above safety. He also shares what he told executives, including Mark Zuckerberg, before he left — and the response he received. If you’ve ever wondered: Are these platforms intentionally habit-forming? Do they really know how young users are? Could they reduce harm if they wanted to? Why don’t more insiders speak out? This episode is essential listening. It’s a rare, inside look at how power, profit, algorithms, and accountability collide — and what it might actually take to force change. The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative. Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade. Research mentioned in the episode: Social media platforms generate billions of dollars in revenue from U.S. youth: Findings from a simulated revenue model (Raffoul article)

  • March 1 · 1 hr 2 min

    [WEEK 5 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Kaley Takes the Stand

    This week, we’re joined by Meta whistleblower Brian Boland, who appeared as a witness in this trial, and law student Christine Almadjian, who has spent hours inside the courtroom watching this case unfold. Christine is also a legislative consultant with END OSEAC. Thousands of families, school districts, and dozens of states have filed consolidated lawsuits against TikTok, YouTube, Meta, and Snap Inc., alleging their platforms were deliberately designed to addict and harm children. Some are calling this “the tobacco trial of our generation.” The first case centers on Kaley — a child like yours and mine — facing the most powerful companies in the world. This week, YouTube’s VP of Engineering defended the algorithm as internal documents revealed research linking excessive use to addiction, sleep disruption, anxiety, depression, and body image issues — along with features like autoplay designed to increase watch time. We heard testimony that kids using YouTube while logged out are treated like adults, with no safety features enabled. A data expert challenged Meta and YouTube’s reported ad revenue from minors, citing “significant errors and contradictions,” followed by testimony from Kaley's therapist. Then Kaley took the stand. She described creating multiple accounts to like her own videos and posts, sneaking her phone at night, spending up to 16 hours a day on Instagram, feeling panic without her device — and still, at 20 years old, struggling to stop. When asked whether she had addiction, anxiety, depression, or body dysmorphia before social media, her answer was simple: no. Meta and YouTube pushed back hard, pointing to family conflict and school bullying. In just a few weeks, the jury will decide if social media was a subsantial factor in her mental heath struggles. This case isn’t just about one family. It’s about millions of kids — and what happens next affects all of us. The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative. Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.

  • February 21 · 59 min

    [WEEK 4 RECAP] The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial: Zuckerberg. A Whistleblower. The Trial Ignites.

    This week on The Heat is On…Big Tech on Trial, the spotlight was on Mark Zuckerberg — but it didn’t stay there for long. Nicki Petrossi and Sarah Gardner take you inside a dramatic week in court as Zuckerberg faced questioning about youth safety, platform design, and internal company practices — followed by testimony from a former insider whose statements directly conflicted with his. In this episode: The most revealing exchanges from Zuckerberg’s time on the stand The key claims he made — and what evidence challenged them A whistleblower’s testimony that told a very different story about how platforms operate Emotional reactions from parents watching it unfold in real time Why legal observers say this week could shift momentum in the trial A new Annual Report by Bark connecting Kaley's harm to children today Millions are watching because what happens here will reshape accountability for the most powerful tech companies in the world. This isn’t just a trial. It’s a turning point. Thank you to our special guest, Titania Jordan of Bark Technologies. Here's their 2025 Annual Report, referenced in the episode. The Heat is On...Big Tech on Trial is an investigative mini-series by Scrolling 2 Death, in partnership with Heat Initiative. Video Editing expertly provided by Jacob Meade.

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