Road to the Trials

Peter Bromka, Lindsey Hein, and Matt Chittim

Co-hosts Matt Chittim, Lindsey Hein, and Peter Bromka interview every 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials Qualifier along with a wide-ranging group of industry professionals in preparation for the 2028 Olympics in Los Angeles.

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Thursday · 1 hr 2 min
Inside Robert Miranda's Breakthrough 2:09 Marathon
Robert Miranda's marathon breakthrough didn't happen overnight. After narrowly missing his goals in Chicago, withdrawing from the 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials, and learning some hard lessons through self-coaching, he returned to Boston this spring to run a lifetime best of 2:09:40 and officially join the growing list of American men under 2:10. In this conversation, Robert shares his unique journey from Yale student and UCLA mathematics PhD to the B.A.A. High Performance Team, why he believes consistency matters more than perfect workouts, and how becoming a father has reshaped both his running and his perspective. He also reflects on the setbacks that nearly pulled him away from the sport, what he's learned about racing the marathon, and why his focus is firmly on being ready for the 2028 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Goodr sunglasses combine a no-slip, no-bounce fit with polarized lenses and fun designs that are built for running, travel, and everyday adventures. Lightweight, affordable, and made to move with you. Get $10 off your first order at goodr.com/relay.
Tuesday · 1 hr 8 min
From Walk-On to Boston PR: Charlie Sweeney's Road to the Trials
Charlie Sweeney joins us after a personal best at the Boston Marathon to talk about the next chapter of his marathon career and why he believes he's just getting started. The former Division II walk-on turned CU Boulder standout reflects on his unconventional path through the sport, working with new coach David Roche, and the lessons he's learned from being coached by — and dating — Olympian Elise Cranny. Charlie shares what it's like balancing a full-time job at COROS with professional running, why he believes confidence is often the biggest separator between athletes, and how he's approaching the long road toward the 2028 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com.
July 21 · 58 min
How Rachel Schilkowsky Finally Solved the Marathon
Rachel Schilkowsky joins us after earning her spot at the 2028 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials with a breakthrough 2:35:51 and second-place finish at the Vermont City Marathon. A five-time NCAA Division I All-American at Cornell, Rachel is a biomechanical engineer, mom of two, and self-coached athlete who has spent years chasing the marathon she knew she was capable of running. In this episode, Rachel shares how returning to racing after having two children changed her perspective, why finally dialing in her fueling strategy made all the difference, and what it was like racing alongside Kellen Taylor on the way to her Olympic Trials qualifier. We also talk about self-coaching, balancing family life with elite training, the Green Racing Project, and why she's still chasing big goals on both the roads and the track. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com.
July 16 · 59 min
Lily Anderson: From Teaching in Brooklyn Classrooms to Brooklyn Track Club & an OTQ
Lily Anderson joins us fresh off another strong marathon that secured her spot at the 2028 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. Lily shares how she went from teaching in New York City public schools through Teach For America to pursuing the marathon at a high level while becoming a key member of Brooklyn Track Club. She talks about finding her place in New York's thriving running community, balancing work with elite training, learning to embrace new training methods, and why the team aspect of running continues to motivate her. Lily also reflects on earning her first Olympic Trials qualifier, battling injury, bouncing back with a 2:33 marathon, and why qualifying early has changed her mindset heading into the next marathon cycle. It's a conversation about patience, consistency, community, and enjoying the process of seeing what's possible. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com.
July 14 · 1 hr 11 min
Andrew Colley Knows His Best Marathon Is Still Ahead
Andrew Colley has represented Team USA three times, won the USATF 25K Championships, and qualified for four U.S. Olympic Team Trials across the marathon, 5,000 meters, and 10,000 meters. Yet despite running 2:09 for the marathon and 60:47 for the half marathon, he believes his biggest breakthrough is still ahead. In this crossover episode from I'll Have Another with Lindsey Hein, Lindsey sits down with Andrew in person to discuss his evolution as a professional runner, his years training with ZAP Endurance under Pete Rea, and why consistency and patience have become the foundation of his success. They also talk about balancing elite racing with new fatherhood alongside his wife, fellow professional runner Tristan Colley, winning the USATF 25K Championships, and why he's confident his fastest marathon is still to come as he builds toward the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com.
July 9 · 1 hr 3 min
Alex Burks: Three Breakthroughs at the Same Course, a 2:15 OTQ, and Why Running Is Still Fun
Alex Burks has a unique relationship with Rockland Lake. It's where he ran his first breakout half marathon, his first major marathon breakthrough, and this spring, where he punched his ticket to the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials with a 2:15:49, qualifying by just 11 seconds. In this conversation with Peter Bromka, Alex looks back on the years between those breakthrough performances, the frustrating cycle of marathon blowups, and the nutrition and mindset changes that finally helped everything come together. They also revisit Alex's standout race at the 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials, where he moved from the back half of the field into the top 50 by staying patient while others faded in the Florida heat. Alex shares what he's learned about training, why he believes consistency matters more than chasing huge mileage, his fascination with trail ultras, and how he's approaching the next Olympic Trials with a healthier perspective than ever before. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Goodr sunglasses combine a no-slip, no-bounce fit with polarized lenses and fun designs that are built for running, travel, and everyday adventures. Lightweight, affordable, and made to move with you. Get $10 off your first order at goodr.com/relay.
July 7 · 1 hr 3 min
Esteban Trujillo: A Decade Away from Running, Then a 2:14 Marathon at Age 40
After walking away from running for nearly a decade, Esteban Trujillo never expected he'd one day be racing 2:14 marathons. But at age 40, he's become one of the fastest masters marathoners in the world, finishing second overall in the masters division at the 2026 Boston Marathon and running 2:14:30 at CIM to easily qualify for the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials. In this episode, Esteban shares his remarkable journey from competing at the University of Oregon alongside future Olympians to completely quitting the sport, moving to Alaska, and eventually rediscovering running through a spontaneous marathon. He discusses how patience has become his greatest training tool as a masters athlete, working with coach Brad Hudson, the lessons learned from Boston and CIM, joining Puma's Project3 program, and helping launch Front Range Elite to support the next generation of elite runners in Colorado. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration offers a personalized approach to fueling and hydration, helping athletes dial in exactly what their body needs before, during, and after training. With a wide range of products including drink mixes, gels, chews, and electrolyte solutions, it makes it easy to build a fueling strategy that fits your routine, whether you're heading out for a long run or racing. What sets them apart is their individualized fueling plans, designed around your specific sweat rate and sodium needs rather than a one-size-fits-all approach. You can learn more and get 15% off your first order at precisionhydration.com using the code trials26 at checkout.
July 2 · 48 min
Erin McDonald: Rediscovering Running and a 2:32 Marathon Breakthrough
After stepping away from competitive running for nearly four years, Erin McDonald wasn't sure she'd ever return to the sport at a high level. Now, she's a 2:32 marathoner, a 4:31 miler, and an Olympic Marathon Trials qualifier. Following a breakthrough performance at the 2025 CIM, Erin joins Road to the Trials to share how falling back in love with running transformed both her mindset and her performances. In this episode, Erin reflects on her collegiate career at Michigan State, the burnout that led her away from the sport, and the unexpected path back to elite marathoning. She talks about training with Bay Area Distance Crew, winning the Bayshore Half Marathon in a course-record 73:37, balancing competition with joy, and why this second chapter of her running career feels so much more fulfilling than the first. Erin also shares what she's learned about patience, confidence, and embracing the process as she looks ahead to the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials. Thank you to our sponsors: ZBiotics is a genetically engineered probiotic designed to support your body before drinking. Their pre-alcohol probiotic is formulated to break down the byproduct of alcohol that can lead to rough mornings, helping you feel better the next day while still enjoying a social night out. Developed by a team of PhD microbiologists, it’s designed to be taken before your first drink as part of a more intentional approach to alcohol consumption. If you’re looking to balance enjoying a night out without sacrificing how you feel the next day, you can learn more and get 15% off your first order at zbiotics.com using the code trials26 at checkout. Precision Fuel & Hydration offers a personalized approach to fueling and hydration, helping athletes dial in exactly what their body needs before, during, and after training. With a wide range of products including drink mixes, gels, chews, and electrolyte solutions, it makes it easy to build a fueling strategy that fits your routine, whether you're heading out for a long run or racing. What sets them apart is their individualized fueling plans, designed around your specific sweat rate and sodium needs rather than a one-size-fits-all approach. You can learn more and get 15% off your first order at precisionhydration.com using the code trials26 at checkout.
June 30 · 59 min
Ryan Smith: The Finish Line Reaction Everyone Was Talking About
Ryan Smith only planned to gain experience in his marathon debut. Instead, he ran 2:15:34 at the Vermont City Marathon, won the race, and punched his ticket to the 2028 U.S. Olympic Marathon Trials. But as Ryan explains, the result wasn't about chasing a time. It came from years of consistent training, learning to trust his instincts, and taking a patient approach to building fitness after injury. Ryan shares why he prioritizes effort over pace in training, how cross-training became a key part of his success, what he learned from his first marathon, and why he's already thinking differently about preparing for the Olympic Trials. He also talks about balancing a full-time career in energy economics, the Boston running scene, Division III running, and the unexpected experience of going viral after his emotional finish line interview. Precision Fuel & Hydration Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com.
June 25 · 1 hr
Megan Connolly: The WWE Broadcaster Who Qualified for the Olympic Trials
This episode is sponsored by Kava Haven, Goodr, and Precision Fuel & Hydration. Megan Connolly's path to the Olympic Marathon Trials qualifier was anything but straightforward. A former Division I runner turned broadcaster, Megan spent years casually running marathons before deciding to fully pursue the Olympic Trials standard. Along the way, she donated a kidney, became a mother, returned to racing postpartum, and ultimately qualified for the 2028 US Olympic Marathon Trials at the McCurdy Micro Marathon. In this episode, Megan joins Peter Bromka and Lindsey Hein to reflect on the long road to 2:37. She shares how the 2020 Olympic Marathon Trials reignited her competitive fire, why learning to love the training process mattered more than any finish time, and the mental lessons she learned after falling short at Indy before finally getting it done at McCurdy. Megan also opens up about balancing elite training with motherhood, her career with WWE, the life-changing experience of becoming a living kidney donor, and why controlling what you can control has become her guiding philosophy both in sport and in life. Thanks to our sponsors: Kava Haven Kava Haven is a kava-infused, non-alcoholic spirit that delivers a calm, social buzz without the alcohol. Enjoy a refreshing alternative that helps you stay present and clear-headed. Get 15% off your first order with code ROADTOTRIALS15 at kavahaven.com/roadofthetrials. Precision Fuel & Hydration Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Goodr Goodr sunglasses combine a no-slip, no-bounce fit with polarized lenses and fun designs that are built for running, travel, and everyday adventures. Lightweight, affordable, and made to move with you. Get $10 off your first order at goodr.com/relay.
June 22 · 45 min
Madey Dickson: From the Mile to a 2:28 Marathon and Learning to Take Risks
Madey Dickson never planned to become a marathoner. A standout miler at Brigham Young University, she first tried the marathon almost on a whim before discovering she might be better at 26.2 than she ever expected. Less than a year after fully committing to the event, Madey has already run 2:28 twice, first at the 2025 US Marathon Championships at CIM and again at the 2026 Boston Marathon. In this episode, Madey shares her rapid rise in the marathon, working with coach Rory Linkletter, balancing elite training with a full-time nursing career, and the mindset shifts that helped unlock a new level of confidence. She talks about racing much of Boston alone, learning to fuel properly after a painful marathon debut, training in Utah’s thriving running community, and why she believes the next step in her development is taking bigger risks on race day. Madey also looks ahead to the 2028 Olympic Marathon Trials and explains why she wants to line up ready to truly go for it. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com.
June 18 · 55 min
Annie Frisbie: A 2:22 Breakthrough and Another Boston Masterclass
Fresh off a career-best 2:22 at the 2026 Boston Marathon, Annie Frisbie joins Road to the Trials to reflect on one of the biggest performances of her career. Annie finished eighth overall and was the second American across the line, continuing her remarkable success on the Boston course. She shares what clicked on race day, why she thrives in the chaos of championship-style racing, and the memorable moment of finding teammate Dakotah Popehn in the lead pack mid-race. Annie also opens up about the lessons she carried from the 2024 Olympic Marathon Trials, how that disappointment ultimately helped her grow as an athlete, and why confidence has become one of her greatest strengths as a competitor. The conversation explores training with Minnesota Distance Elite, balancing racing across distances from the 5K to the marathon, life as a full-time professional runner, and how she's already thinking about the road to the 2028 Olympic Trials. Plus, Annie shares details from her recent engagement in Switzerland and why Boston continues to bring out her very best. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Wahoo The Wahoo KICKR RUN treadmill brings a more realistic indoor running experience with automatic pace control, terrain simulation, and seamless integration with platforms like Zwift and Strava. Train smarter with technology trusted by elite runners and triathletes. Use code Trials28 for a free Bluetooth fan ($319 value) at wahoofitness.com.
June 15 · 54 min
Erik Linden: Trusting the Process, Reinventing the Journey, and Running 2:12
This episode is supported by Kava Haven, Wahoo, and Precision Fuel & Hydration. Erik Linden returns to the Olympic Trials stage after running a breakthrough 2:12 at the McKirdy Micro Marathon, continuing a marathon journey that has been defined by patience, curiosity, and a willingness to follow his own path. A previous Trials qualifier for Orlando, Erik has steadily improved over the years while balancing running with the rest of life, constantly searching for new ways to stay engaged, motivated, and growing in the sport. In this conversation, Erik reflects on his progression from collegiate runner to 2:12 marathoner, the training changes that fueled his latest breakthrough, and why he's never been afraid to evolve as an athlete. He and Peter discuss finding the right training environment, trusting intuition, navigating the gap between competitive amateur and professional running, and what it means to keep pursuing improvement after years in the sport. It's a thoughtful look at longevity, reinvention, and the joy of continuing to chase what's possible. Thanks to our sponsors: Kava Haven Kava Haven is a kava-infused, non-alcoholic spirit that delivers a calm, social buzz without the alcohol. Enjoy a refreshing alternative that helps you stay present and clear-headed. Get 15% off your first order with code ROADTOTRIALS15 at kavahaven.com/roadofthetrials. Precision Fuel & Hydration Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Wahoo The Wahoo KICKR RUN treadmill brings a more realistic indoor running experience with automatic pace control, terrain simulation, and seamless integration with platforms like Zwift and Strava. Train smarter with technology trusted by elite runners and triathletes. Use code Trials28 for a free Bluetooth fan ($319 value) at wahoofitness.com.
June 11 · 1 hr 2 min
Sarah Reiter: Three Olympic Trials, Staying Joyful, and Chasing Sub-2:30
This episode is supported by Kava Haven, Goodr, Precision Fuel and Hydration, and Wahoo. After qualifying for her third Olympic Trials with a 2:32 at CIM, Sarah Reiter joins the podcast to reflect on her marathon journey, from a difficult debut in Brooks Adrenalines to becoming a three-time Trials qualifier and leader within Tracksmith’s Stamata team. She shares what she's learned through years of racing, why she believes joy and balance are essential to longevity in the sport, and how she approaches the pressure that comes with chasing ambitious goals. Sarah also talks about pacing teammates at the Eugene Marathon, the evolution of the Olympic Trials standard, her hopes of breaking 2:30, and why she still believes the best racing of her career may be ahead of her. Whether you're chasing your first OTQ or your third, Sarah's perspective on consistency, community, and enjoying the process offers plenty to take away. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans based on carbs, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools and resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code Trials26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Wahoo The Wahoo KICKR RUN treadmill brings a more realistic indoor running experience with automatic pace control, terrain simulation, and seamless integration with platforms like Zwift and Strava. Train smarter with technology trusted by elite runners and triathletes. Use code Trials28 for a free Bluetooth fan ($319 value) at wahoofitness.com. Goodr Goodr sunglasses combine a no-slip, no-bounce fit with polarized lenses and fun designs that are built for running, travel, and everyday adventures. Lightweight, affordable, and made to move with you. Get $10 off your first order at goodr.com/relay. Kava Haven Kava Haven is a kava-infused, non-alcoholic spirit that delivers a calm, social buzz without the alcohol. Enjoy a refreshing alternative that helps you stay present and clear-headed. Get 15% off your first order with code ROADTOTRIALS15 at kavahaven.com/roadofthetrials.
June 9 · 45 min
Jax Siddall’s Marathon Debut Win: From 6th Grade Teacher to Eugene Marathon Win
Jax Siddall joins Peter Bromka after a breakthrough performance at the Eugene Marathon, where he won his marathon debut and secured an Olympic Trials qualifier. A sixth-grade teacher in Colorado, Jax shares the path that took him from Eastern Kentucky University to the front of one of the country's premier marathons. Jax reflects on the training philosophy that has fueled his development, lessons learned from time spent in Flagstaff, balancing teaching with high-level running, and what it's like to race alone for much of a marathon. He also discusses the importance of consistency, learning from athletes around him, and why he believes his best running is still ahead of him. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel and Hydration helps athletes take the guesswork out of fueling by breaking performance down into its essential components: carbohydrates, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed approach allows runners to dial in each variable independently, making it easier to troubleshoot training issues and race-day execution. With extensive educational resources and practical tools, Precision supports athletes who want to fuel with intention rather than trial and error. Use code "Trials26" for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Wahoo continues to redefine indoor training with the KICKR RUN treadmill, designed to respond dynamically to how athletes actually run. With features like automatic pace control, terrain simulation, lateral tilt, and seamless connectivity to platforms like Zwift and Strava, it delivers a more realistic and engaging training experience. Trusted by world-class runners and triathletes alike, Wahoo builds tools that keep athletes training smarter, not just harder. Use code "Trials28" for a free bluetooth fan ($319 in value) at wahoofitness.com.
June 4 · 40 min
Joey Whelan: 35 Marathons, 6 Course Records, and Still Finding Another Gear
Joey Whelan returns to the podcast after one of the busiest stretches of racing imaginable. Since his breakout performance at CIM, he's added wins and course records in Austin and Buffalo, raced internationally in Hamburg, and continued building toward even bigger goals. Through it all, he's remained one of the sport's most unique competitors, balancing aggressive racing, high mileage, and a willingness to line up far more often than most elite marathoners. In this conversation, Joey reflects on leading CIM for nearly the entire race, what he learned from racing solo for so many miles, and why he's increasingly embracing tactics, double-threshold training, and new approaches to recovery. He also shares his thoughts on the evolving American marathon scene, chasing World Championships qualification, the realities of racing without an agent, and why he's excited for another showdown with some familiar rivals at Grandma's Marathon. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners simplify fueling with personalized plans built around carbohydrates, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed tools make it easier to dial in race-day nutrition and training fuel. Use code TRIALS26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Wahoo is changing the indoor running experience with the KICKR RUN treadmill, featuring automatic pace control, terrain simulation, and seamless integration with platforms like Zwift and Strava. Use code TRIALS28 for a free Bluetooth fan (a $319 value) at wahoofitness.com. ZBiotics Pre-Alcohol Probiotic is designed to support a better next day by helping break down a byproduct of alcohol associated with rough mornings. Just take it about 45 minutes before drinking. Get 15% off your first order at zbiotics.com/trials26 with code TRIALS26. Every order is backed by a 100% money-back guarantee.
June 1 · 55 min
Elena Hayday: From 2:30 to 2:24 at Boston and Chasing Something Bigger
Elena Hayday joins the podcast after a massive breakthrough at the 2026 Boston Marathon, where she ran 2:24 and officially entered a new level of American marathoning. But as she shares in this conversation, the performance was years in the making. After multiple marathons that almost came together, tough lessons with fueling and GI issues, and balancing elite training alongside a neuroscience PhD program, Boston was the race where everything finally clicked. Elena talks about the process of fully committing to running, joining Minnesota Distance Elite, training alongside athletes like Dakota Popehn and Annie Frisbie, and learning to believe she belongs in those front packs. She also shares how working with a dietitian transformed her recovery, why she’s starting to think differently about racing instead of just pacing, and what it feels like to suddenly realize the Olympic Trials — and maybe even Team USA — could truly be within reach. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel & Hydration helps runners take the guesswork out of fueling with a science-backed approach to carbohydrates, fluids, and sodium. Their personalized fuel plans and educational resources make it easier to train and race with confidence. Use code TRIALS26 for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. ZBiotics is the maker of a pre-alcohol probiotic designed to support a better next day after drinking. Developed by PhD microbiologists, it works by breaking down a byproduct of alcohol associated with rough mornings. Learn more and get 15% off your first order at zbiotics.com/trials26 with code TRIALS26. All purchases are backed by a 100% money-back guarantee.
May 28 · 1 hr 2 min
Amanda Martin on Winning Eugene and Learning How to Trust the Marathon
Amanda Martin joins Road to the Trials after a massive breakthrough at the 2026 Eugene Marathon, where she ran 2:34 and won the race after years of chasing the Olympic Trials standard through injuries, setbacks, burnout, and some truly brutal marathon experiences. Amanda shares her long road from swimming and Division III running to chronic stress fractures, cross-training marathons on the elliptical, collapsing in races, and wondering if the marathon would ever actually click for her. She talks openly about grief after losing her father, the pressure she put on herself for years while chasing a time goal, and how moving to Utah and training around athletes like Kiera D’Amato helped completely reshape her mindset around racing. The conversation dives deep into marathon fueling, sports anxiety, learning how to race without obsessing over pace, and why covering her watch during Eugene may have changed everything. Amanda also reflects on the surreal feeling of finally running strong over the final 10K of a marathon, crossing the finish line at Hayward Field victorious, and realizing the goal she had carried for nearly eight years had finally become real. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel and Hydration helps athletes take the guesswork out of fueling by breaking performance down into its essential components: carbohydrates, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed approach allows runners to dial in each variable independently, making it easier to troubleshoot training issues and race-day execution. With extensive educational resources and practical tools, Precision supports athletes who want to fuel with intention rather than trial and error. Use code "Trials26" for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Goodr sunglasses are built for runners, adventurers, and anyone who wants gear that actually stays put while still being fun to wear. With their no-slip, no-bounce fit and fully polarized lenses, they’re designed to move with you whether you’re out for a long run, heading to the beach, traveling, or just outside all summer. They’re lightweight, affordable, and somehow manage to make practical running sunglasses feel genuinely fun. Head to goodr.com/relay to get $10 off your first order.
May 26 · 45 min
Luke Maher: Inside Puma Project 3 and the Rise of the Sub-Elite Marathoner
Luke Maher joins Road to the Trials to pull back the curtain on Puma Running’s Project 3 initiative and how it’s helping fuel one of the most exciting eras in amateur marathoning. From early access to prototype super shoes to building a global community of runners chasing breakthrough performances, Luke shares how the program grew from a product idea into something much bigger. The conversation also gets into the super shoe era, the support Project 3 gives athletes beyond gear, the $3,000 PR bonus, and why runners like Joey Whelan and Alana Hadley show how close the gap can be between everyday life and pro-level racing. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel and Hydration helps athletes take the guesswork out of fueling by breaking performance down into its essential components: carbohydrates, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed approach allows runners to dial in each variable independently, making it easier to troubleshoot training issues and race-day execution. With extensive educational resources and practical tools, Precision supports athletes who want to fuel with intention rather than trial and error. Use code "Trials26" for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Wahoo The Wahoo KICKR RUN treadmill brings a more realistic indoor running experience with automatic pace control, terrain simulation, and seamless integration with platforms like Zwift and Strava. Train smarter with technology trusted by elite runners and triathletes. Use code Trials28 for a free Bluetooth fan ($319 value) at wahoofitness.com.
May 21 · 55 min
Aidan Reed: Chasing the Marathon While Falling in Love With the Half
This episode is supported by Kava Haven and Precision Fuel and Hydration. Aidan Reed has quietly become one of the most versatile runners in the American road scene, finding success everywhere from the 10-mile to the half marathon while continuing to chase breakthroughs in the marathon. In this conversation, he reflects on life with the Roots Running Project, the evolution of American marathoning, and what it’s really like trying to compete at the highest level during one of the deepest eras the sport has seen. Aidan also opens up about his experiences at both the Olympic Marathon and Track Trials, his ambitions to represent Team USA internationally, and the importance of building a life outside of running through community organizing and activism. It’s an honest conversation about ambition, identity, and what keeps him motivated heading toward 2028. Thank you to our sponsors: Precision Fuel and Hydration helps athletes take the guesswork out of fueling by breaking performance down into its essential components: carbohydrates, fluids, and sodium. Their science-backed approach allows runners to dial in each variable independently, making it easier to troubleshoot training issues and race-day execution. With extensive educational resources and practical tools, Precision supports athletes who want to fuel with intention rather than trial and error. Use code "Trials26" for 15% off at precisionhydration.com. Kava Haven: All the Buzz, None of the Booze — get 15% off your first order when you use code ROADOFTHETRIALS15 at http://kavahaven.com/roadofthetrials