Raw and Relentless w/ Bo DePaoli

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#112
Tuesday · 30 min
Former Atheist Turned $3.3B Banking Chairman: What Changed His Life? | Richard Krauland
Episode 112 What makes a lifelong skeptic change his mind about God? And how does that transformation shape the way he leads a multibillion-dollar business? On Episode 112 of Raw & Relentless with Bo DePaoli, Bo sits down with Richard Krauland, former CEO and current chairman of a financial holding company that Richard says has grown to $3.3 billion, and author of The Bridge from Science to God. Richard spent roughly 24 years identifying as an atheist, studying mathematics, philosophy, and science in search of answers. Then, at age 40, he finally opened the Bible. What happened next changed his beliefs, his relationship with money, and his approach to leadership. In this conversation, Richard shares how a decision to start giving money to someone in need was followed by a series of unexpected checks in the mail. He also explains how being fired after refusing a board member's request led him to a new leadership opportunity, where he helped grow a banking and insurance business through acquisitions and organic expansion. Bo challenges Richard on the historical reliability of the Bible, the relationship between science and faith, and how spiritual beliefs influence decisions in the business world. In this episode: Why Richard identified as an atheist for 24 years The Bible-reading experience that changed his beliefs His personal argument for reconciling science and God The unexpected money he received after he began giving Getting fired for refusing something he believed was unlawful Growing a financial company through seven acquisitions The servant leadership philosophy he used as CEO Why helping employees succeed can improve business performance The difference between financial success and personal fulfillment Whether you're an entrepreneur, business owner, investor, skeptic, or someone questioning the relationship between faith and success, this conversation explores what happens when personal convictions collide with money, power, and leadership. Connect with Richard! Email: kraulandr@gmail.com Book: The Bridge from Science to God — available through Google, Apple, Amazon, Barnes & Noble, Kindle
#111
October 16 · 55 min
AI Is Exposing a Massive Problem in Your Business | Ilan Man
Episode 111:Artificial intelligence is making it easier than ever to build software, automate operations, and scale a business. But there's one massive problem most entrepreneurs are overlooking: their data is a mess. In this episode of Raw & Relentless, Bo DePaoli sits down with Ilan Man, founder of Paradox Machines, to break down what business owners need to understand before throwing more money at AI tools and automation.Ilan has spent nearly two decades working in data and technology. Now he's helping mid-market companies solve the infrastructure problems that prevent them from getting real value out of artificial intelligence. Bo also shares his experience using AI to build custom gym management software and potential SaaS applications at a fraction of what traditional software development once cost.Inside this episode: Why AI gives businesses inaccurate answers How messy business data undermines automation Why custom software development is becoming more accessible When entrepreneurs should build their own tools versus hire specialists How to avoid expensive enterprise data platforms you don't need What AI means for the future of business operations and entrepreneurship The bottom line:AI can make building technology cheaper and faster. But if your systems, processes, and data are broken, adding more technology won't automatically fix your business.If you're a business owner, entrepreneur, investor, or founder looking to use AI for real operational leverage, this conversation is worth your time.Subscribe to Raw & Relentless with Bo DePaoli for conversations about entrepreneurship, business growth, real estate investing, technology, and building long-term wealth.Connect with Ilan Man:Website: ⁠paradoxmachines.com⁠LinkedIn: Ilan Man
#111
October 13 · 55 min
AI Is Exposing a Massive Problem in Your Business | Ilan Man
Episode 111: Artificial intelligence is making it easier than ever to build software, automate operations, and scale a business. But there's one massive problem most entrepreneurs are overlooking: their data is a mess. In this episode of Raw & Relentless, Bo DePaoli sits down with Ilan Man, founder of Paradox Machines, to break down what business owners need to understand before throwing more money at AI tools and automation. Ilan has spent nearly two decades working in data and technology. Now he's helping mid-market companies solve the infrastructure problems that prevent them from getting real value out of artificial intelligence. Bo also shares his experience using AI to build custom gym management software and potential SaaS applications at a fraction of what traditional software development once cost. Inside this episode: Why AI gives businesses inaccurate answers How messy business data undermines automation Why custom software development is becoming more accessible When entrepreneurs should build their own tools versus hire specialists How to avoid expensive enterprise data platforms you don't need What AI means for the future of business operations and entrepreneurship The bottom line: AI can make building technology cheaper and faster. But if your systems, processes, and data are broken, adding more technology won't automatically fix your business. If you're a business owner, entrepreneur, investor, or founder looking to use AI for real operational leverage, this conversation is worth your time. Subscribe to Raw & Relentless with Bo DePaoli for conversations about entrepreneurship, business growth, real estate investing, technology, and building long-term wealth. Connect with Ilan Man: Website: paradoxmachines.com LinkedIn: Ilan Man
#105
October 7 · 38 min
He Scaled to 150 Employees—Then Realized Growth Was Breaking the Business
Episode 110: Seth Bader spent nearly 20 years building his Atlanta law firm—but some of his biggest lessons came when the business started growing faster than the systems and culture could keep up. At roughly 10 years in, the firm had around 30–35 employees and $7–8 million in revenue. Within 18 months, the teamhad grown past 100, eventually reaching around 150 employees. That growth created new problems around leadership, culture, accountability, client acquisition, and maintaining the standards that made the company successful in the first place. In this episode: ● How Seth scaled from 30–35 employees to more than 100 in roughly 18 months ● Why rapid growth diluted parts of the firm's culture ● Why leadership becomes dramatically harder as a company scales ● The difference between leading 10 people and leading 150 ● How AI and offshore talent helped Seth operate with a leaner team ● Why rebuilding a damaged culture takes time ● How customer acquisition costs can destroy margins ● Why personal injury law has become brutally competitive ● The economics behind high-volume professional service businesses ● Why trust still matters in a transactional-looking industry ● What Seth learned after nearly 20 years of entrepreneurship ● Why scaling isn't automatically the same thing as building a better business Seth also breaks down how AI is changing legal operations, why customer acquisition has become significantly more expensive, and why entrepreneurs have to evolve as leaders when their companies outgrow their direct influence. Connect with Seth Bader: Bader Law Email: seth@baderlaw.com LinkedIn: Seth Bader
#109
September 23 · 41 min
The “Boring” Businesses Smart Money Is Buying Right Now
Episode 109: Jon Ostenson walked away from corporate America looking for something more entrepreneurial. What he found was a worldof businesses most investors completely overlook: non-food franchises. On this episode of Raw & Relentless, Bo DePaoli and Jon break down why entrepreneurs are investing in “boring” businesses like home services, senior care, pool cleaning, property services, asphalt, septic, and other industries that are difficult to replacewith AI. In this episode: ● Why Jon believes non-food franchises are being overlooked ● The “boring” businesses attracting investor interest ● What it actually costs to buy a franchise ● How SBA financing can reduce the cash needed upfront ● What a $500K franchise investment could potentially look like ● Owner/operator vs. semi-involved ownership ● Why the management team behind a franchise matters ● How geography and demographics impact franchise success ● Why larger franchise portfolios can attract different buyers ● Jon's failed business and the lesson it taught him about complexity ● How to know if your existing business could become a franchise ● Why the first 5–10 franchisees can make or break a new franchise system Jon also explains why buying into aproven system can offer entrepreneurs something starting from scratch can't:existing processes, support, data, training, and a community of owners alreadysolving the same problems. Connect with Jon Ostenson: FranBridge Consulting Website: franbridgeconsulting.com Book: Non-Food Franchising
#108
August 26 · 52 min
$2 Billion Investor: Why Most Real Estate Deals Don’t Work Right Now
Episode 108: Lane Kawaoka went from working as an engineer and buying a handful of rental properties to participating in over $2 billion in acquisitions and building a real estate portfolio that reachedroughly 10,000 units at its peak. On this episode of Raw & Relentless, Bo DePaoli sits down with Lane to break down what has changed in real estate investing and why many of the deals that worked a few years ago simply don't pencil today. Lane gets into rising cap rates, negative rent growth, overbuilt markets, syndication mistakes, passive investing, oiland gas, tax strategy, and why diversification became a priority after getting hit during the last real estate cycle. In this episode: • How Lane went from 11 rentals to thousands of units • Why many multifamily deals don't pencil today • The danger of aggressive rent-growth assumptions • Where Lane sees opportunity in overlooked markets • What passive investors should look for in a syndicator • Why a great fee structure can't save a bad deal • Real estate vs. oil and gas investing • Why high-income investors use oil and gas for tax benefits • The diversification lesson Lane learned the hard way • What rising interest rates could mean for real estate investors Connect with Lane Kawaoka: LinkedIn: Lane Kawaoka Website: thewealthelevator.com Book: The Wealth Elevator
August 19 · 1 hr 41 min
An MIT Physicist Explains Why Reality Is Stranger Than You Think
Episode 107: In this episode of Raw & Relentless, Bo DePaoli sits down with MIT-trained physicist and longtime professor Stan Zygmunt for a fascinating conversation about quantum physics, science, and the nature of reality. Stan breaks down some of the most mind-bending concepts in physics, including the double-slit experiment, wave-particle duality, quantum mechanics, and the strange behavior of matter at the smallest scales. They explore why particles don't always behave the way we expect, what happens when we attempt to measure them, and why quantum physics continues to challenge our understanding of how the universe actually works. Stan also shares his journey from being fascinated by science as a kid to studying physics and materials science at MIT, eventually building a career spanning nearly four decades of teaching and research. In this episode: ● Why the double-slit experiment is so mind-bending ● Quantum physics and the strange behavior of matter ● Why particles can behave like waves ● What measurement means in quantum mechanics ● What physics can actually tell us about reality ● Stan's journey from MIT to nearly 40 years of teaching and research If quantum physics, the double-slitexperiment, or the mysteries of our universe have ever fascinated you, this is an episode you don't want to miss. Connect with Stan! Website: valpo.edu/physics Instagram: @valpo_phys_astro
#106
August 12 · 47 min
The Future of Work: AI, Leadership & the Skills That Actually Matter
Episode 106: What does it actually take to scale abusiness, build great teams, and stay valuable in the age of AI? In this episode of Raw &Relentless, Bo DePaoli sits down with corporate executive, speaker, andauthor Victoria Pelletier to break down leadership, hiring, businessgrowth, and how AI is changing the workforce. Victoria became an executive at just 24years old and has spent her career leading large-scale business and technologytransformations. She explains why entrepreneurs become their own biggestbottlenecks, why real-world experience can beat credentials, and why humanskills may become even more valuable as AI advances. In this episode: • How to hire the right people to scaleyour business • Why entrepreneurs become their own biggest bottleneck • How Victoria became an executive at 24 • Why confidence is often mistaken for competence • Why experience can matter more than a college degree • The biggest mistake companies are making with AI • Why 70% of AI's value comes from people and process • How AI can help small businesses scale with leaner teams • The human skills AI can't replace Connect with Victoria: Website: victoria-pelletier.com Instagram: victoria_pelletier_unstoppable
#105
August 5 · 58 min
From Pastor to FBI: The Criminals That Changed My Faith
Episode 105: How does someone go from preaching sermons every Sunday to spending 24 years hunting some of America's most dangerous criminals? In this episode of Raw & Relentless, Bo DePaoli sits down with retired FBI Special Agent Eric Robinson, whose career path is unlike anything you've heard before. After serving as a Baptist pastor, Eric joined the FBI, where he investigated drug cartels, organized crime, terrorism, financial crimes, child exploitation, and public corruption while also serving 15 years on the FBI SWAT team. Eric shares incredible behind-the-scenes stories from his career, explains how his background in ministry made him abetter interrogator, and opens up about the realities of evil, faith, and human nature after decades of investigating the worst criminals in America. They also discuss organized crime, terrorism, interrogation techniques, the Epstein files, retirement from theFBI, and Eric's new book, Irreverend: From Saving Souls to Chasing Sinners in the FBI. • Why Eric left the ministry for the FBI • Working drug cartels, terrorists, andorganized crime • Child exploitation investigations and theemotional toll • What the media gets wrong about the FBI • Why some criminals actually thanked him forarresting them If you're fascinated by law enforcement,psychology, leadership, or the realities of crime, this is an episode you won'tforget. Connect with Eric! Instagram: _eric_robinson Website: preachertobreacher.com In this episode:
#104
July 29 · 34 min
Don't Start a Business Until You Hear This
Episode 104: Is buying a franchise one of the smartestways to become a business owner—or one of the fastest ways to lose money? In this episode of Raw & Relentless, Bo DePaoli sits down with franchise consultant Adam Goldman, who has spent nearly two decades helping entrepreneurs, executives, and investors find the right franchise opportunities. Adam explains why franchising is far morethan buying a recognizable brand. He breaks down how successful franchiseowners think, the industries growing the fastest, how much capital you actuallyneed to get started, financing options available today, and why choosing theright business is often more important than choosing the most popular one. Whether you're considering leaving yourcorporate job, investing in a recession-resistant business, or simply curiousabout how franchises really work, this episode delivers a behind-the-sceneslook at an industry most people never fully understand. • How franchise matchmaking actuallyworks • The fastest-growing franchise industries today • Why health & wellness and senior services are exploding • Typical startup costs and financing options • The biggest mistakes first-time franchise buyers make • Why systems and culture matter more than brand recognition • How to evaluate whether franchising is right for you If you've ever thought about owning abusiness but didn't want to start from zero, this conversation is amust-listen. Connect with Adam! Website: franchisecoach.net Instagram: franchisecoach_adam
#103
July 22 · 55 min
From Stealing Food to $450 Million in Business
Episode 103: From stealing food just to survive… tobuilding over $450 million in businesses. Jerry Brazie's story is unlike anything we've featured on Raw & Relentless. Before becoming a successful entrepreneur, Jerry grew up as one of nine children in extreme poverty. He stole food at eight years old just to eat, lost his vision in one eye, lived with heroin addicts and prostitutes, survived being stabbed, and refused to let his circumstances define his future. Today, Jerry has built, bought, and sold businesses generating more than $450 million in revenue, survived heart disease, lost 100 pounds, and now helps entrepreneurs build companies and lives that last. In this episode, we cover: ● Building businesses from nothing ● Buying, scaling, and selling companies ● Cash flow, leadership, and entrepreneurship ● Health, discipline, and legacy If you enjoyed this episode, subscribe, leave a review, and share it with another entrepreneur. 🌐 Website: kronosgroup.org 📱 Instagram: jerrybrazie Connect with Jerry
#102
July 15 · 1 hr 20 min
Leadership, Discipline, and Life Lessons from a SEAL
Episode 102: Tom Hruby, ex-Navy SEAL and entrepreneur, joins Bo DePaoli to share the mindset, strategies, and operational insights that helped him build a high-performing team and a successful business in tactical services. Drawing from his experience in leadership, security, and tactical operations, Tom discusses the principles that drive results under pressure and how these lessons translate to business, personal growth, and effective decision-making. In this episode, you’ll learn: • How to build trust, accountability, and culture in high-stakes environments • Strategies for leading teams under pressure without losing focus • How tactical principles apply to business decision-making and growth • Overcoming challenges and turning obstacles into opportunities • Lessons from military-style operations that can enhance personal and professional performance Whether you’re an entrepreneur, a leader, or someone looking to develop resilience and tactical thinking, this episodeoffers actionable insights that can be applied immediately to improve outcomes, enhance team performance, and think strategically in any high-pressure scenario. Connect with Tom Hruby! Instagram: @thruby33 Website: tactical16.com
#101
July 8 · 53 min
How Blockchain is Transforming Equity and Private Investments
Episode 101: Joris Delanoue, CEO and co-founder of Fairmint,joins Bo DePaoli to discuss how blockchain technology is revolutionizing equity, private investments, and capital formation. From inefficient, paper-based systems to fully programmable on-chain assets, Joris explains howfounders, investors, and employees can access liquidity faster, cheaper, and with greater transparency. In this episode, you’ll learn: • How blockchain creates a unique, trustworthy source of equity ownership • The concept of programmable equity and its advantages over traditional cap tables • Why private companies are adopting blockchain to speed capital formation • How Fairmint’s on-chain transfer agent model works with U.S. and international regulations • How AI and automation are simplifying complex equity management • The global implications of a standardized, programmable approach to investing • Lessons for founders who want to scale and modernize their investor relations Whether you’re a founder, investor, or just curious about the future of finance, this episode provides a front-row seat to how technology is reshaping capital markets. Connect with Joris Delanoue: Website: fairmint.com LinkedIn: Joris Delanoue
#100
July 1 · 1 hr 46 min
How Cops Intercept Millions in Contraband
Episode 100! Step inside the world of law enforcement with Kenny “Red Ninja,” a 19-year veteran of the Indiana police force. From high-stakes highway interdiction to organized retail crime and narcotics trafficking, Kenny reveals how law enforcement stops contraband in its tracks.In this episode, you’ll learn:• How criminals operate on major interstate highways• The psychology and techniques used to intercept contraband• Why some crimes are underreported and under-prosecuted• The challenges of managing law enforcement operations• Lessons from decades of training cops across the countryThis episode is perfect for anyone curious about real-world policing, strategy, and the hidden challenges of law enforcement.Connect with Kenny!Instagram: @red_ninja111Website: justiceacademytraining.com
#99
June 24 · 51 min
Raising Capable Kids in a Frictionless World
Episode 99: Melissa Smith, expert in organizationalperformance and author of The Capable and Checked Out, joins Bo DePaolito discuss how modern parenting—especially post-COVID—has inadvertently removedthe friction that builds resilience, motivation, and accountability inchildren. Drawing from her work with families, schools, and organizations,Melissa explains the difference between chores and responsibilities, the roleof natural consequences, and how to help children develop real-world skillsthat translate into confidence and independence. Key takeaways include: • Why friction and small challenges are essential for building resilience • How overprotective parenting can create dependency rather than capability • Differentiating chores from true responsibility • The role of environment in shaping motivation • Teaching children the value of ownership and accountability • Practical strategies for parents to prepare kids for adulthood • How exposure to diverse role models influences aspirations • Lessons that carry from childhood to workplace success This episode is essential for parents,educators, and leaders who want to cultivate capable, self-reliant childrenready to succeed in life and work. Connect with Melissa: Melissa@generationaldrive.com Generationaldrive.com instagram.com/generationaldrive
#98
June 17 · 54 min
How to Use GLP-1s Without Side Effects
Episode 98: Dr. Ian Justl Ellis, a weight managementexpert, joins Bo DePaoli to reveal the science, secrets, and strategies behindGLP-1 medications. In this episode, you’ll learn how improper dosing can leadto severe side effects, why many patients struggle despite using these powerfulmedications, and how a level-based dosing approach can double effectivenesswhile reducing discomfort. Key takeaways include: • Why starting doses of GLP-1 drugs can backfire and create side effects • How to find the “sweet spot” for appetite suppression without overdoing it • The science behind receptor binding and why more medication isn’t alwaysbetter • Real-world results: Patients losing weight faster with less drug • Practical strategies to maximize fat loss while maintaining protein andnutrient intake • How intelligent dosing can prevent quitting and improve patient outcomes This episode is essential for anyoneusing GLP-1s or curious about medical weight management strategies that worksafely and effectively. Connect with Dr. Ian Justl Ellis! Instagram: @voafitmd Website: voafit.com
#97
June 10 · 1 hr
Why Socialism Struggles: Economics Explained
Episode 97: Dr. Doug Cardell, economist and author ofWhy Socialism Struggles, joins Bo DePaoli to unpack the realities of economic systems, capitalism, and socialism. Drawing from decades of research and practical experience, Dr. Cardell explains why utopian economic models fail and how real-world incentives shape wealth, value creation, and society. Key takeaways include: • Why predicting a socialist economy is impossible • How government inefficiency and bureaucracy hinder economic progress • The difference between self-interest, selfishness, and value creation • How capitalism grows the pie, improving living standards over centuries • Debunking myths about billionaires and taxation • Lessons from history, NASA, SpaceX, and Amazon on risk and innovation • Practical advice for individuals to create value in today’s economy This episode is essential for anyone curious about how economies function, wealth is generated, and why some systems fail while others thrive. Connect with Dr. Doug Cardell: Website: dougcardell.com
#96
June 3 · 1 hr 3 min
How Central Banks Create Wealth (And Inequality)
Episode 96: Paul Musson, former professional investor and author of Capital Offense: Why Some Benefit at Your Expense, joins Bo DePaoli to break down the hidden mechanics of monetary policy, housing, and wealth inequality. With over 30 years of experience in global investments, Paul explains how central bank policies, low interest rates, and quantitative easing have distorted capital markets and contributed to generational wealth gaps. In this episode, you’ll discover: • How interest rates and housing policies benefit the wealthy at the expense of younger generations • Why rising home prices often do not reflect real economic productivity • The difference between capital creation and money circulation, and why it matters • How debt-fueled consumption inflates GDP without creating real wealth • The hidden consequences of government stimulus and quantitative easing • Practical insights on understanding the economy, money, and your personal financial power This episode is essential for anyone looking to understand how financial systems really work, why inequality persists, and what you can do to navigate today’s economic landscape. Connect with Paul: Website: pauliticaleconomy.com Blog: Free weekly newsletter at pauliticaleconomy.com Book: Capital Offense: Why Some Benefit at Your Expense (Amazon, Barnes& Noble, ThriftBooks)
#95
May 27 · 48 min
Unlocking the Power of Peptides for Health & Performance
Episode 95: Gabriel Alizaidy, R&D expert in performance medicine and peptide science, joins Bo DePaoli to dive deep into the cutting-edge world of peptides and biohacking for optimal health. From the basics of what peptides are to advanced research on hormone secretagogues, myostatin inhibitors, and GLPs, this episode explores how these molecules can impact muscle growth, fat loss, recovery, and longevity. Gabriel explains the science in practical terms, translating complex research into strategies you can use to maximizeperformance, enhance recovery, and improve overall health. He also shares insights on integrating peptides safely with diet, training, and lifestyle, along with the future of peptide innovation in longevity and regenerative medicine. Key takeaways include: • Understanding peptides: how they differ from proteins and why they’re powerful signaling molecules • Popular peptides and their effects: BPC-157, TB-500, GLPs, oxytocin, and growth hormone secretagogues • Optimizing recovery, reducing inflammation, and enhancing muscle performance • Strategies for combining peptides with nutrition, exercise, and sleep for maximum impact • Advanced research on myostatin inhibitors and emerging therapies for longevity and anti-aging • Practical guidance on safe usage, dosing, and stacking for synergy • The role of lifestyle, diet, and biohacking in amplifying peptide results • How cutting-edge peptide science is shaping the future of health and performance Whether you’re an athlete, a biohacker, or simply interested in optimizing your body and longevity, this episode is packed with actionable insights and science-backed strategies. Connect with Gabriel! Instagram: @gabrielalizaidy
#94
May 20 · 1 hr 1 min
Maximize Your Clients, Multiply Your Revenue
Episode 94: Bradley Rausch joins Bo DePaoli to reveal the strategies behind scaling high-ticket coaching, consulting, and SaaS companies by focusing on client success, retention, and referral optimization. Unlike many “sales gurus,” Bradley emphasizes delivering on promises, building emotional equity, and creatingsystems that allow businesses to scale while maintaining exceptional client experiences. Key takeaways include: • How to leverage client success to generate referrals and repeat business • Identifying the “right hires” for scaling teams and delegatingresponsibilities • How founder-led brands create stronger connections and loyalty • Overcoming common SaaS and coaching churn challenges • Tactical frameworks for high-ticket sales without overpromising • Turning discretionary client effort into measurable growth • Using AI and systems to scale customer engagement efficiently This episode is essential for entrepreneurs, coaches, and SaaS founders looking to grow their business sustainably while building trust and loyalty among their clients. Connect with Bradley! LinkedIn:Bradley Rausch

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