
What is the climate movement actually a fight for?
Have you defined what fighting climate change looks like to you? Maybe it’s doing restoration or clean up shifts in your neighborhood parks. Maybe it’s supporting your local farmers, or planting out your own thriving garden. Maybe even working directly on climate solutions for a living (thank you!!). But, have you defined what it is you’re actually fighting for? Not just resolving an issue at hand, but something that we are implementing instead? Many folks have probably heard the Frederic Jameson quote, “it’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.” And as we’ve just spent the last 5+ years witnessing a pandemic, increasingly frequent and devastating climate disasters, state-sanctioned violence in the US, Palestine, Iran, and Venezuela, it’s really easy to think that this is it. I’d argue that, if you’re an environmentalist, you disagree. Why would we commit ourselves to this struggle in any capacity if we didn’t think things could change for the better? Still, what does that change actually look like? What does it feel like? What is that place where we win? And what have we won, exactly? In this episode, my guest Nathalie Muños and I talk about how the fight for a climate just future is also a fight of the imagination. Specifically, we talk about the role of visioning and protagonism as tools to help us strive and win. We end the conversation applying these two concepts of visioning and revolutionary protagonism to Nathalie's vision for a new food system (aka Nathalie’s climate MO), and key roles that she sees coming into play that inspire personal transformation towards enacting that new reality. Thanks for listening!
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