
Episode 138 - Simon King
138. Simon King He made a feature film about 27 London street photographers on a camcorder, and now he isn't sure who his next one is for. Guest: Simon King, a London documentary photographer and teacher, and the director of Everything Happens All the Time · Instagram · Blog · 35mmc author page In this episode Simon King spent about four months shooting Everything Happens All the Time, a free, feature-length film of 27 London street photographers talking to him and, in the edit, to each other. I'd watched it before we sat down and loved it, so this conversation started early and wandered: why the film lets photographers talk about whatever they like, what a photography community looks like when nobody is lurking in a doorway with a long lens, and why cheap kit isn't the barrier it's made out to be. Then it gets harder. What do you become once the thing is finished? Simon is candid about the slump that follows a project, about not caring whether anyone sees his work, and about why he thinks the making has to be the part you enjoy. There's also a very good story about a portrait that ended up on somebody's mum's fridge. Highlights Positions are approximate (percentage of the way through the conversation) until real timestamps are added. • [~7%] Why the film shows photographers as people hanging out, not noir detectives with long lenses • [~11%] The production company that bought the cheapest CCTV tape going so marginalised communities could see themselves on TV • [~12%] Why the easiest film to make on a phone tends to be an aggro one, and the £3 karaoke-toy microphone going to India instead • [~25%] Around 35 interviews shot, 27 kept, and why street photography is a niche of a niche that most people only meet through controversy • [~42%] "So I'm making it for no one": the problem with a second film • [~47%] The slump after finishing, and why he doesn't buy the romantic version of it • [~64%] Why leaving your work behind sounds to him like litter, and the print that ended up on a fridge • [~72%] The electrician on a film set, and why the process has to be the enjoyable bit Chapters Approximate positions, not timestamps. Replace with real times from the edit before pasting into a host that reads chapter markers. ~0% Warm-up: swearing, Scotland and first reactions to the film ~3% The film lets photographers talk about what they want to talk about ~6% Community, loneliness and "go outside" ~9% Is cheap kit a barrier? Camcorders, phones and the CCTV-tape story ~12% Why accessible filmmaking drifts to aggro, a £3 microphone and a trip to India ~16% Krishnamurti, dissatisfaction and the problem with gear talk ~19% The mock sign-off ("a great 17 minutes") ~20% The proper start: why make a film about this group of people ~24% 27 interviews kept, around 35 shot ~25% Street photography's image problem and Tatsuo Suzuki ~29% One voice, many versions of themselves ~32% Joey, and London as an overlooked photographic city ~35% Photographer first, filmmaker second ~42% "So I'm making it for no one" ~47% The sense of defeat after finishing ~55% Not arting well, and step counts versus frames ~61% Why make and share work at all ~64% Legacy, litter and Vivian Maier ~67% A portrait on a fridge, and a footballer who nailed it first take ~72% Enjoying the process: the electrician on a film set ~76% One-person production, books and the zine that fell flat ~84% Finding the right medium: video versus audio, and experimenting ~92% How the film was made: Nipon's one take and a gallery opening ~97% Where to watch it Mentioned in this episode People • Simon King, the guest. His D.C. Exclusion Zone series, on the Biden inauguration, is likely the DC project we mention · [~3%] • Daniel Milnor, photographer, Blurb creative ambassador and a past Prime Lenses guest; his Shifter post on the film is likely the blog piece mentioned · [~3%] • Tatsuo Suzuki, the Tokyo street photographer at the centre of the 2020 Fujifilm X100V advert row · Wikipedia · PetaPixel on the controversy · [~25%] • Joshua K. Jackson, street photographer in the film (Simon calls him "Josh") · Street Life podcast episode · [~20%] • Joey Nutkins, the cinematographer Simon wants me to have on, working in anamorphic and making a short-film series about photographers · [~32%] • Also in the film and named in the episode: Mike Chudley, Tim Jamieson, Cal Holland, Nicole Louw, Trisha Lyon-O'Neill and Nipon Ravel. Full cast is in the film's YouTube description. Books and reading • Think on These Things by J. Krishnamurti (1964, HarperOne edition), the book a friend recommended to me, with a chapter on creativity and constant dissatisfaction · Krishnamurti Foundation Trust · [~16%] Music, film and video • Everything Happens All the Time (2026), Simon's film · Watch on YouTube · IMDb · Letterboxd · [~0%] • How the film was shot, in Simon's words: British Cinematographer · PetaPixel · Digital Camera World Watch and listen The film is free and runs 1 hour 45 minutes. It plays well as audio, which we also talk about. Everything Happens All the Time (2026), full documentary Quotes It's easy to get a response from someone if you're being aggro. And so that's where you get so much fight content just filmed. — Simon King, ~12% I get nothing from the knowledge that out there somewhere someone has enjoyed something I made that's not connected to me. The enjoyment is from the making of the work and then the mutual enjoyment with others in either making or experiencing that work. — Simon King, ~64% The process of making something is not the process of looking at that thing. So if you're an electrician on a film set, if you only enjoy watching films and you don't enjoy being an electrician, you're not going to enjoy what you're actually doing. — Simon King, ~72% Mentioned but not linked • "When I die, burn my negatives" [~64%]: Simon's blog article on legacy. Couldn't find the post; probably on his blog above. • Simon's DC book [~3%]: Daniel Milnor "loved your book". I found the project but couldn't confirm the book's title or a page for it. • Matty's book on Gaza [~5%]: my guest, who also photographed in Ukraine. Couldn't pin down who. • The CCTV-tape production company [~11%]: Simon half-remembers it as "the people's production company", filming marginalised communities in the 70s and 80s. Nothing confirmable. • Saga [~39%]: photographer and filmmaker who made a video for Ilford with his own drumming as the soundtrack. Not found. • AP Leslie [~84%]: my recent video episode about his film. Link your own episode page. • Still in Street, at the Photobook Café [~95%]: the gallery opening where Simon grabbed last interviews. Couldn't confirm the exhibition or host. • The film on Dailymotion and the Internet Archive [~97%]: Simon says it's on both, as well as YouTube. Couldn't find either copy. • Name-checked in passing: David Lynch and Eraserhead, Werner Herzog, Vivian Maier, Harmony Korine, Taika Waititi. Credits Hosted and produced by Iain Farrell. primelensespodcast.com















