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Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken

Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting.

Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world.

“Photography is nothing—it’s life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson

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  • Wednesday · 52 min

    Football

    Episode 49 - In this episode Zach & Courtney talk about how football and photography came up together since the late 1800s. We can see how as the technology advanced, the style of photography changed as well. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Film becomes the subject of the photo. 3:49 - The oldest football photo I could find. Old division football. 5:06 - Earliest football photos were mostly posed & portraits. 7:29 - Early action photos, college and professional football. 11:10 - A photo from the first football game at University of Oregon - 1905. 13:12 - 📷 Neil Leifer “The Greatest Game Ever Played” - 1958 NFL Championship . 16:00 - Neil Leifer’s contact sheet from the 1958 NFL Championship. 18:20 - 📷 Neil Leifer 1962 - Close up wide angle of game action. 21:31 - LIFE Magazine photos of the first Super Bowl. 1967. 27:20 - Walter Iooss, Jr. and manual focus on a telephoto lens. 29:14 - 📷 Walter Iooss, Jr. - Joe Namath, Poolside, Galt Ocean Mile Hotel, Fort Lauderdale, FL, 1969. 33:52 - How camera technology changed in the second half of the 20th century . 35:02 - 📷 Michael Zagaris behind the scenes photos of the 49ers. 37:43 - The portraits of Walter Iooss Jr. make athletes look heroic. 41:23 - 📷 Walter Iooss, Jr. - “The Catch” 49ers vs. Cowboys. 1982. 42:29 - How camera tech of today affects sports photography. 47:37 - How to set yourself apart as a sports photographer in 2026. 49:39 - Documentary photography always has value. Photos by Magnum photographers. Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • August 19 · 1 hr

    Copyright

    US Copyright laws exist to protect artists and their art. Zach & Courtney take copyright seriously and have retained the copyright for all of Zach’s photography since the beginning of their business. In this episode of Photography is Nothing, Zach & Courtney talk about famous court cases involving photographers protecting their copyright as a means to teach how these laws benefit photographers and other artists. Cases discussed include: Photographer Carol Highsmith suing Getty images for a billion dollars for selling 18K of her photos. Photojournalist Daniel Morel sues AFP & Getty for selling his images of the 2010 Haitian earthquake The famous “monkey selfie” case with photographer David Slater. Who owns a photo taken by an animal? Architecture photographer Scott Hargis wins perhaps the largest copyright settlement ever. The conversation moves well beyond the lawsuits and gets into topics like: Registered works vs un-registered works Public domain Fair Use Always get a contract, even when no money is exchanging hands Getty Images sells photos that are public domain (free to everyone) **NOTE** Zach & Courtney are not attorneys and nothing in this episode constitutes legal advice. Index 0:00 - A monkey took the photo 4:29 - Why we always retain copyright ownership 9:10 - Carol Highsmith sues Getty 15:22 - Royalty Free vs Rights Managed 20:39 - When you create something, you own the copyright 21:51 - Photographer Scott Hargis’s big win 28:02 - Why register copyrights 30:56 - Setting a precedent that we pursue infringement 37:20 - Daniel Morel sues AFP & Getty 41:26 - David Slater and the Monkey Selfie dispute 55:15 - A little bit about model releases Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • August 12 · 2 hr 5 min

    Interview with Christopher Morris

    Zach & Courtney interview Christopher Morris, a documentary photographer who has covered war, politics, and fashion since 1981. In this interview, Morris talks about being mistaken for a CIA agent, living with the consequences of witnessing atrocities firsthand, working to make sure his vast archive lives on, and more. Christopher Morris got his start with the Black Star agency covering conflicts in the Philippines, Panama, the Persian Gulf War, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Yemen, Iraq, and more. Largely leaving war photography behind in the early 2000s, Morris covered the Bush and Obama administrations for Time Magazine. He left Black Star in 2001 and was one of the founding members of VII Photo Agency. In recent years, Morris has photographed for fashion magazines & brands, worked as the personal photographer for Princess Charlene of Monaco, and continued to take breaking news & editorial assignments around the world. Index 0:00 - Interview with Christopher Morris 3:50 - TIME said stop photographing Republicans in black & white 7:25 - Going through 40 years of photo archives 16:47 - Chris was hired by the Princess of Monaco 18:40 - Keeping your copyright 22:30 - Stephen Shore as an influence 25:58 - 1981 on the New York Subway 28:22 - What he learned from Susan Meiselas 30:50 - Don’t stay in hotels as a documentary photographer 33:09 - Taking photos behind the handler’s back in Saudi Arabia 37:56 - Are photojournalists capitalizing on suffering? 44:16 - Winning awards for war photography 47:49 - The toll it takes on the family of a war photographer 58:05 - Taking portraits & maintaining journalistic integrity 1:03:14 - The influence of W. Eugene Smith’s Country Doctor 1:23:22 - How does a conflict photographer get to the front lines? 1:37:27 - Getting the best seat in the house without a pass 1:42:04 - How Morris got to the front lines in Iraq 1:47:14 - When photographing the government means you’re one of them 1:57:30 - PTSD: No one asked if he needed help 2:02:18 - Israel has killed over 200 journalists in Gaza 2:04:50 - Planning a visit to see the archives in person Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • August 5 · 48 min

    The Photography of Christopher Morris

    Christopher Morris is a documentary photographer who has covered wars, politics, and fashion since 1981. In this episode, Courtney & Zach introduce Morris’s photography ahead of next week’s interview with the photographer. Christopher Morris got his start with the Black Star agency covering conflicts in the Philippines, Panama, the Persian Gulf War, Yugoslavia, Chechnya, Yemen, Iraq, and more. Largely leaving war photography behind in the early 2000s, Morris covered the Bush and Obama administrations for Time Magazine. He left Black Star in 2001 and was one of the founding members of VII Photo Agency. In recent years, Morris has photographed for fashion magazines & brands, worked as the personal photographer for Princess Charlene of Monaco, and continued to take breaking news & editorial assignments around the world. Index 0:31 - The Photography Christopher Morris 6:36 - How Christopher Morris got started in photography 10:35 - Photographing the conflict in Chechnya - 1990s 18:25 - Documenting American politics in the early 2000s 23:15 - Books by Christopher Morris: My America and Americans 29:24 - Archiving decades of film photos 32:00 - Moscow in the 1990s 34:01 - Fashion photography paired with war and politics 40:00 - New York City subway in 1981 41:31 - How Christopher Morris’s photos have influenced Zach 43:25 - How do you decide to be a war photographer Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • July 29 · 1 hr 11 min

    Interview with Kiliii Yüyan

    Episode 45 • Kiliii Yüyan Zach & Courtney interview Kiliii Yüyan, National Geographic photographer, Explorer, and speaker. Kiliii’s work focuses on indigenous communities around the world with special attention to environmental issues. Indigenous Photography Kiliii is himself of Chinese and Nanai/Hèzhé descent and speaks often of how his own background informs his photography with Indigenous people of the world. He spends extended periods with each group of people that he photographs, building relationships and serving as an active member of the communities. Kiliii has photographed Indigenous communities and environments across the globe, such as Mongolia, Palau, and the Navajo Nation. His immersive approach is apparent in all aspects of his work, from the unusual scenes he's able to capture, to the descriptions he writes for each photograph. Kiliii is clearly well versed in the cultures he's documenting. Backstory Yüyan took up photography only in his 30's, when as a traditional kayak builder he began photographing his work. As a visual artist, photography came naturally, and he was photographing for National Geographic in just about 3 years. An award winning photographer, Killiii has also earned 3 covers for National Geographic and his work has also been featured in TIME, Vogue, and WIRED. Yüyan is a keynote speaker through Changemaker Talent with appearances at TEDx, and NatGeo Live, among others. Current Work In February 2026, Kiliii published a new book: Guardians of Life: Indigenous Knowledge, Indigenous Science, and Restoring the Planet. Guardians of Life features a decade of of his photos and includes contributions from two dozen Indigenous authors. Yüyan is currently working on project in the arctic, photographing Greenland sharks under the ice. He's famously known for his encounters with polar bears, sharks, and other wildlife where he captures stunning images under intense pressure. Index 0:00 - Intro: Indigenous communities are the best conservationists 0:52 - Introducing photographer Kiliii Yüyan 3:41 - Three years to becoming a National Geographic photographer 5:28 - Combining aesthetics and storytelling 9:03 - Becoming a part of the community you’re photographing 11:24 - How Kiliii finds the stories he tells 17:44 - The business of documentary photography: grants, speaking engagements, and more 32:35 - Bringing indigenous heritage to documentary photography 39:50 - A natural skill for storytelling 42:59 - Pushing past your discomfort to find success 46:12 - New book: Guardians of Life 53:22 - Indigenous conservation: Treating land as a museum vs a home 59:05 - Kiliii explains “solutions journalism” 1:06:20 - Book publisher Braided River’s unique approach 1:10:26 - Documentary photography is for kids, too Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • July 22 · 47 min

    Kiliii Yüyan

    Zach & Courtney introduce you to the work of Kiliii Yüyan, National Geographic photographer. Kiliii’s work focuses on indigenous communities around the world with special attention to environmental issues. This week we talk about Kiliii’s background and some of his best known work so you’ll be familiar with his photography and approach before our next episode, an in-depth interview with Yüyan. In February 2026, Kiliii published a new book: Guardians of Life: Indigenous Knowledge, Indigenous Science, and Restoring the Planet. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Making the cover of National Geographic 0:48 - Meet Kiliii Yüyan 6:04 - The impartial observer is a myth 8:46 - Project: People of the Whale 30:05 - Project: We are Here 40:42 - Guardians of Life book Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons

  • July 15 · 1 hr 5 min

    Kids and Cameras

    Zach & Courtney talk about supporting their kids taking photos. Zach has always been open to letting kids use his professional cameras, even if it made him nervous at first. ICYMI, Zach & Courtney ARE married! They have 5 kids together, who have free rein with cameras whenever they ask. In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about how they work to support their kids’ creativity and individual styles without putting their own personal preferences and aesthetics onto the kids’ photography. Episode 43 “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Keeping opinions to yourself. 1:09 - We’re married 5:23 - All 5 of our kids like to take photos (sometimes) 9:05 - Letting kids use professional cameras 12:32 - The kids like to use the smaller, mirrorless camera 14:06 - Zach doesn’t teach photography lessons (unless asked) 17:05 - How I set up cameras for kids 18:31 - Take photos of whatever you think is interesting 23:56 - Louisa takes headshots for the cast of her play 28:42 - Kids learn from what they see me do 35:05 - Helping kids feel comfortable being themselves 40:31 - Zach & Courtney’s viral video: kids using Instax cameras 45:01 - Courtney’s view on “high art” 51:44 - Street photography photo contest Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/happylifelessons/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • July 1 · 1 hr 2 min

    World Cup 2026

    Episode 42 - Zach & Courtney go through the best photos of the 2026 World Cup so far. And by “best” they mean the photos they like the most. There are a lot of great storylines that have unfolded early in the tournament and Zach & Courtney get into their favorite photos of these stories and moments. Photos include Cape Verde goalie Vozinha, watch parties around the world, Lumumba Vea, and a great photo of Ronaldo that was posted to his account without first obtaining permission from the photographer. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Your eyes see things from different angles. Duh. 2:25 - How the World Cup is affecting us in the USA 9:04 - Tourists experiencing American food and culture. 13:42 - Soccer fans around the world watching the World Cup 26:16 - Norway’s Viking-themed team photo 30:20 - David Ramos photo of Messi celebrating Argentina’s 2022 World Cup win 32:45 - The story of Michel Nkuka Mboladinga, aka Lumumba Vea 35:06 - The World Cup photography of Kohjiro Kinno 39:21 - Favorite photos of Vozinha 42:58 - Ronaldo’s photo that was used without permission 48:47 - Talking about copyright 53:35 - How can a photographer tell it’s their photo? Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Larry Fink: Hands On / A Passionate Life of Looking Get your copy: https://amzn.to/4fWXPuN Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • June 24 · 43 min

    Larry Fink

    Episode 41 - Zach & Courtney have talked about Larry Fink on multiple occasions, so wanted to have an episode dedicated to him. The photography of Larry Fink was documentary in nature and full of social & class commentary. His most famous series, Social Graces, put images of Manhattan socialites of the 70s & 80s alongside images of the Sabatine family living in rural Pennsylvania. He also photographed social activism of the 60s & 70s, boxing in the 80s & 90s, the famous Vanity Fair Oscar parties in the early 2000s, and behind the scenes at fashion shows. Fink once said, “The only revolution we have is within,” which became an important quote in the McCracken/Dobson household. We talk about that in depth in this episode. After our initial talk (clip from Photography is Nothing episode 05), Zach talks through one of his favorite photo books: Larry Fink: Hands On / A Passionate Life of Looking. The book touches on every point of Fink’s career. Zach talks in depth about some of his favorite images and provides details about the stories and series they’re from. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Change the world by changing yourself 1:15 - Larry Fink and the Sabatine Family 5:31 - Courtney’s favorite quote from Larry Fink 8:02 - Larry Fink’s self portrait is an entire universe 12:19 - How we missed meeting Larry Fink 14:07 - The internal revolution manifests externally 18:15 - Photo book - Larry Fink: Hands On / A Passionate Life of Looking Buy, Sell or Trade with MPB: https://shorturl.at/Szqs2 Larry Fink: Hands On / A Passionate Life of Looking Get your copy: https://amzn.to/4fWXPuN Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • June 17 · 46 min

    Lourdes Grobet

    Episode 40 - Zach & Courtney talk about Lourdes Grobet, an amazing Mexican photographer whose best known work is her nearly 40 years of documenting lucha libre, Mexican wrestling. Grobet’s work isn’t just unique because of the subject matter. She did a mix of action, documentary, behind-the-scenes, and portraiture, all with great skill. Other series by Grobet includes Paisajes Pintados (Painted Landscapes) and Laboratorio de Teatro Campesino e Indígena (Peasant and Indigenous Theater Laboratory). “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: The true story behind Nacho Libre! 0:50 - Introducing Lourdes Grobet 5:54 - Paisajes Pintados (Painted Landscapes) 9:24 - Laboratorio de Teatro Campesino e Indígena 11:15 - Documentary photography of lucha libre 14:39 - Luchador El Santo 17:39 - Luchador Blue Demon 20:25 - Luchadors at their day jobs 23:19 - Portraits of luchadors with their families 30:44 - Frey Tormenta (the inspiration for Nacho Libre) 35:45 - Thoroughly documenting a subject 40:06 - Assignment: find this photo of Blue Demon The Art of Photography interview with Lourdes Grobet https://youtu.be/rElpkvx244Y?si=9rDIJyoVyC_GVcCm Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • June 10 · 48 min

    PaJaMa Collective

    Episode 39 - Zach & Courtney talk about PaJaMa collective, made up of painters & photographers Paul Cadmus, Jared French, and Margaret French. Between 1937 and the mid 1950s, they created a set of photos that feel like summer. This episode about PaJaMa is also a great way to celebrate Pride Month, as the artists are credited as being the first queer art collective on Fire Island, NY. In this episode, we look through their vast archive of images, talk about how their painting styles were reflected in their photographs, and address the importance of these photos as a historical document of a community that largely lived their lives outside of public view. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Who is PaJaMa collective? 2:11 - Photos locations: Fire Island, NY and Provincetown, MA 5:27 - Photography used to be mostly private 12:50 - Friends of PaJaMa 16:15 - Queer history as told through photography. Alice Austen 18:48 - Jared French & Paul Cadmus paintings 23:06 - Alfred Eisenstaedt’s V-J Day photo is SA 27:52 - About Margaret Hoening French 28:25 - The photography of PaJaMa collective 38:30 - Stone Blossom: A Conversation Piece by Paul Cadmus 39:41 - What is the historical significance of PaJaMa? 44:07 - Photographer George Platt Lynes - a friend of PaJaMa 46:15 - Calvalrymen Crossing A River - Jared French **CORRECTIONS** In the audio, Zach states Chess and Politics is by Jared French. This is correct. The text incorrectly credits the painting to Paul Cadmus. Also, Zach called the Alfred Eisenstaedt photo, “V-E Day” but it’s actually “V-J Day” Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • June 3 · 38 min

    Joel Meyerowitz - Cape Light

    Episode 38 - Zach & Courtney talk about photographer Joel Meyerowitz and his project Cape Light. This series, created in 1976-77 in Cape Cod, is a fantastic and nostalgic look at what summer feels like. Joel Meyerowitz is an early adapter of color photography in an era when “serious” art photographers chose black & white film. He is primarily known as a street photographer, but for this seminal series, now 50 years old, he put down the 35mm camera in favor of a massive 8x10 view camera, forcing himself to take a slower and more introspective approach. In this episode, we talk about the project, the creative choices Meyerowitz made, and the feelings inspired by the resulting images. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Carrying a 8x10 camera everywhere 2:41 - Who comes to mind when thinking about summer photography? 3:48 - A quick background on Joel Meyerowitz 6:36 - How Robert Frank influenced Joel Meyerowitz 9:14 - Experimenting with larger cameras to capture more detail 9:48 - Cape Light is about capturing the feel of the place 12:37 - Lightning strike from the porch 15:25 - Laundry blowing in the breeze 18:03 - Book cover photo 19:28 - Master printer Joanne Mulberg 23:52 - The Feelings evoked from Cape Light 33:20 - How Cape Light was influential 35:51 - Thumbnail previews of all 95 Cape Light photos 37:38 - Who else should we talk about for summer photos? Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • May 29 · 29 min

    Indy 500 2026

    Episode 37 - Zach & Courtney head to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway for their annual trek to the famed Indianapolis 500 Mile Race, aka the Indy 500. This episode is a visual experience! You have to see the sights through video clips and photos. This is Neve’s first Indy 500, so we were all very excited to show her what it’s like, especially her older siblings Henry and Louisa, who are practically race pros by now. In this episode we walk and talk and take you into the crowds so you can get a firsthand look at the experience. And as usual, Zach documents the day, so his photos are throughout the episode, too. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Zach & Courtney hide their beers. Sorta. 0:45 - Walking with the crowds to the Indianapolis Motor Speedway 8:36 - Walking into the IMS and finding our seats in Turn One 11:27 - Exploring the infield before the Indy 500 starts 14:00 - We go on the track at the speedway 16:59 - Gasoline Alley and the Pagoda 24:10 - Pre-race ceremonies at the Indy 500 26:41 - The closest finish EVER at the Indy 500! 27:56 - Thoughts on the race and walking back to the car Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • May 20 · 1 hr 21 min

    Ruedi Hofmann - Photographer & Master Printer

    Episode 36 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk with Ruedi Hofmann, photographer and master printer for Richard Avedon's In the American West. Ruedi Hofmann has worked as a professional photographer since the 1980s with regular clients like Giorgio Armani. But before that, Hofmann worked for 5 years with Richard Avedon as Studio Manager, First Assistant on the In The American West series, and finally as Master Printer for the artist’s most famous project. In this interview, Hofmann tells us stories about working with Avedon, how he reluctantly agreed to print In The American West, and his own career in fashion & portraiture. For his work as Master Printer, Hofmann received from Avedon one edition of each photo he printed, making him owner of one of only three complete sets of In the American West. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Introducing Ruedi Hofmann - photographer and master printer 1:39 - How Ruedi got started in photography. 4:21 - What it was like working in Richard Avedon’s studio. 15:19 - How Avedon chose Hofmann to print his photos. 22:17 - Ruedi’s terms for staying on to the end of In The American West. 25:49 - Leveraging the Avedon name for products & services. 27:09 - Working your way up at Avedon’s studio. 28:53 - The importance of the master printer’s role in making a photograph. 31:06 - Ruedi tells us Avedon’s reaction to the first ~100 prints. 34:21 - Ruedi Hofmann’s career as a professional photographer. 43:59 - Richard Avedon and Laura Wilson worked together to find subjects. 47:43 - What it was like for Avedon’s Western subjects. 55:38 - The new Avedon documentary declined Ruedi’s participation. 58:14 - A photography project is bigger than just the photographer. 1:09:27 - Ruedi’s thoughts on Avedon’s destruction of his negatives. 1:15:33 - Ruedi feels a responsibility to the people he’s photographing. In this interview, we reference a video where Hofmann speaks with Richard Corman in great detail about the technical processes of printing In The American West. You can watch that here: https://www.ruedihofmann.com/avedon-west-collection You can learn more about Ruedi's ownership of the Avedon prints in Zach's video here: https://youtu.be/StKEn_kjc5Q Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • May 13 · 45 min

    Famous Photographers' Family Photos

    Episode 35 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about famous photographers photographing their own families. After last week’s episode about documenting everyday life, Zach wanted to talk about some famous photographers who documented their own life, and specifically their family. Documentary photographers are known for telling stories about hard-hitting issues in the world. But some well-known photographers have very famous images that focus on their own family members or home life. Seeing how fine art, documentary, and street photographers chronicle their own family can show us how this type of work is important for any of us to do. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Courtney helps Zach gain a deeper appreciate for Sally Mann 5:27 - Sabine Weiss & her husband Hugh Weiss 7:04 - W. Eugene Smith & kids 11:22 - Christopher Anderson w/ Atlas & Marion 13:31 - Inge Morath & Arthur Miller 15:39 - William Eggleston & his kids (MAYBE) 17:04 - Stephen Shore & his wife Ginger 18:11 - Sally Mann & her kids 24:26 - Nancy Sheung & daughter 25:12 - Larry Fink & his daughter Molly with the Sabatine family 27:21 - Garry Winogrand & his kids at the zoo 30:00 - Lee Friedlander & his wife Maria and their kids 34:17 - Following up on Documentary Photography is for Everyone 36:16 - Zach feels more connected to the world when photographing it 42:45 - It’s important to strike a balance between photographer & person Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • May 6 · 54 min

    Documentary Photography is for Everyone

    Episode 34 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about the importance of documenting our lives. It’s could be easy to dismiss photographing everyday life and the world around us, but it’s an important practice. We learn a lot about the past from ordinary images, maybe even more than we learn from the major events that people might consider “photo worthy.” What did people really look like and dress like? How did they interact with each other? What did people do in their daily lives? What do the places where they live and work and interact look like? Photographers who document the world are not just making a record of their family, but also providing a view of our society as a whole. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: These pictures will matter. 3:12 - Barriers to entry for “documentary photography” 4:39 - When Zach started documenting everyday life 12:07 - We underestimate the wider value of photographing our families 21:36 - We need photos of daily life to know what the past was like 23:56 - William Eggleston’s photos weren’t well received at the time 25:24 - How do you do documentary photography 29:03 - Awesome photo of baseball player Jo Adell taken by a fan 32:04 - Documentary photography brings the story to a larger audience 39:16 - Just start taking photos. Don’t worry about making good ones. 47:25 - The only impact we have on the world is what comes from within us Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • April 29 · 50 min

    Baseball - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken

    Episode 33 - In this episode, Zach & Courtney talk about their recent trip to the ballpark and learn about a photographer from the golden age of baseball. Charles M. Conlon photographed baseball between 1904-1941, taking absolutely gorgeous photos of some of the game’s most famous names. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Photographers need to share their photos 0:53 - Going to an Indianapolis Indians baseball game 6:15 - Photos of being a spectator at the baseball game 9:04 - One of the greatest baseball photographers: Charles M. Conlon 12:05 - Photo of Ty Cobb sliding into third base 17:49 - Portraits from the golden age of baseball by Charles Conlon 24:25 - Conlon photographs Shoeless Joe Jackson w/ Black Betsy 26:53 - Cornelius McGillicuddy aka Connie Mack 28:16 - Rube Waddell 31:14 - Charles Conlon focused on the people & personalities 32:48 - Masking photos the old fashioned way 40:07 - Charles Albert “Chief” Bender 41:01 - Photographing players’ wives and children 44:05 - Why Charles Conlon destroyed half of his negatives 45:51 - Part of being a photographer is sharing your work Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • April 22 · 51 min

    Moab, Utah - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken

    Episode 32 - Zach & Courtney talk about one of their favorite trips: Moab, Utah! They visit Arches National Park, Canyonlands National Park, Dead Horse Point State Park, and more! Zach used to photograph weddings and that’s how he ended up in Moab 3 years in a row. Courtney & Henry went, too, on the second year. On this episode they discuss their highlights from the trip, which (in addition to the parks, of course) included staying at Whispering Oaks Ranch in the La Sal Mountains. Zach & Courtney talk about the trip, life lessons they learned, and the photos Zach took along the way. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Does Google own my photo now?? 3:19 - How we started booking weddings in Moab 5:46 - Driving to Moab via Denver 7:55 - Every road in Moab felt like different terrain 10:18 - Some background on Arches, Canyonlands and Moab 17:44 - Getting married under Double Arch in Arches National Park 19:31 - Courtney & Henry visit Moab for the first time with Zach 24:23 - Favorite breakfast: Jailhouse Cafe 25:31 - Best fish tacos ever: Miguel’s Baja Grill 27:30 - Carrying a toddler through the National Parks 32:16 - It looks like you’re closer to the cliff’s edge than you are 36:14 - Moab wedding number 2 39:26 - Visiting Canyonlands National Park 42:10 - Finding the Petroglyphs 46:30 - A third wedding in Moab at Whispering Oaks Ranch 49:17 - A final photo at night on the La Sal Mountains Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • April 15 · 44 min

    Yes, Michigan! - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken

    Episode 31 - Zach & Courtney talk about a trip to Hoeft State Park located on the beautiful shores of Lake Huron in Rogers City, Michigan. They stayed in a 1929 Sears Roebuck house just 100 yards from the beach, visited 40 Mile Point Lighthouse and Rogers City Marina, and took in a super early morning sunrise. Zach & Courtney talk about the trip, life lessons they learned, and the photos Zach took along the way. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro: Adventures lead to personal growth 0:55 - Visiting Lake Huron in Michigan 2:32 - How to find an amazing cabin in Michigan 10:55 - Courtney loves the Edmund Fitzgerald 15:03 - All about the cabin at Hoeft State Park 18:20 - Kids don’t care if the water is cold 22:57 - Visiting Rogers City and the Marina 24:10 - Zach’s favorite photo at the marina 26:26 - Going fishing inland Michigan 28:06 - Packing food for a whole trip 29:30 - Why it’s important for families to have adventures 31:36 - Our teen insisted on seeing the sunrise over Lake Huron 33:50 - Visiting the 40 Mile Point Lighthouse 40:27 - Telling a story in a photo 41:10 - Taking a family photo during our adventures Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

  • April 8 · 39 min

    Florida Keys Road Trip - Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson & Courtney McCracken

    Episode 30 - Zach & Courtney talk about a favorite family trip: A roadtrip through the Florida Keys! In 2018, Courtney, Zach, and (then) 4 kids, drove nearly 3,000 miles from Indianapolis, IN to Key West, FL (and back, of course). On this episode we talk about the experience, including our favorite spots, things we learned, and the photos Zach took along the way. “Photography is nothing–it's life that interests me.” - Henri Cartier-Bresson Index 0:00 - Intro - He stitched two mattresses together to make a giant bed 0:49 - Going on a Florida Keys Roadtrip 1:44 - Planning to escape the Midwest in winter 3:44 - Racing to beat a snow storm 7:03 - Driving into the Keys from Miami is supposed to be quick 8:48 - Are the Florida Keys kid-friendly? 10:25 - There are very few natural beaches in the Keys 11:10 - Plan to stay in motels in the Florida Keys 15:18 - Zach had never seen water this color 15:44 - Visiting Key West as a family 24:10 - Ernest Hemingway’s house in Key West 25:28 - Kids are learning their own way 28:12 - Easter Mass in Key West 29:29 - Southernmost Point of the Continental US 30:13 - Bahia Honda State Park 31:03 - Marathon and Islamorada 33:15 - The story behind my favorite Florida Keys photo 35:15 - John Pennekamp Coral Reef State Park 38:04 - We need a bigger car than a Chevy Suburban Find Zach Website: https://zachdobson.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/zachdobsonphoto/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@zachdobsonphoto Threads: https://www.threads.com/@zachdobsonphoto Find Courtney Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/courtneymccracken_/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@happy_life_lessons Threads: https://www.threads.com/@courtneymccracken_ About the Podcast Photography is Nothing with Zach Dobson and Courtney McCracken is a weekly conversation about photography and all its impact. Each week Zach and Courtney discuss their latest adventures, life lessons, and anything else that sounds interesting. Photography is Nothing invites you into the conversations they were already having as a married couple running a photography and media company in the current world. Fair Use Statement This document contains copyrighted material, the use of which has not been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. I have determined this to be "fair use" of the copyrighted material as referenced and provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. If you wish to use any copyrighted material from this document for purposes of your own that go beyond fair use, you must obtain express permission from the copyright owner.

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