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Perdition City Station

Julie

Jarad and Julie travel through the theology of the afterlife by train, bus, auto, ferry, and on foot. First stop Perdition City Station, last stop? Who knows?

They will be joined by cats, an occasional guest, ghosts, and a dead guy named Morty who came to hang out one Halloween and never left.

Come for the laughs, stay for the suffering.

This podcast contains some adult language and situations.

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S2 · E14
Tuesday · 52 min
Do You Believe in Hell?
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad discuss their personal beliefs about Hell and the afterlife. (Julie is finishing a book and researching is not in the cards.) Get some tea and a cat, and pop in for a natter. Sources: The Last Train Out of Hell Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E13
October 1 · 54 min
Jarad's Witch Book Wish List
Send us Fan Mail Since Jarad is consulting with Julie on her upcoming novel about Granny magic, she decided to ask him what it is that he likes in a book with magic and witches. And what he doesn't. Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E12
August 17 · 1 hr 1 min
Interview With Award Winning Author Jeffrey Ford!
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad interview speculative writer Jeffrey Ford about Ahab's Return: Or the Last Voyage: or, The Last Voyage—Julie's current favorite Ford novel—and a jolly host of other things. (To get that reference read the book!) This episode is for readers and writers alike! Ford discusses his writing style, the mysticism of the book life, and even a little about Heaven and Hell. Join us for a great time and then check below to enter the Jeffrey Ford world through one of his books. You'll be hooked in no time. Jeffrey Ford List of Awards and Nominations - You can see the accolades here, but please use this list to start reading! Chronological List of Jeffrey Ford Books - This is a very useful list, but the shopping links are from Amazon. If you don't love Amazon, there are more links below! IndieBound List Including Anthologies - This list is a better way to support independent bookstores, and it includes anthologies that contain Ford's stories. Author Website - A Well Built City Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E11
August 10 · 1 hr 12 min
Jesus as a Revenant
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad discuss Jesus as a revenant. What does it mean to conquer death and why have some Christians turned the only positive revenant into a horror story? Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E10
July 20 · 56 min
Revenants for Justice! Poe's The Black Cat
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad discuss a feline revenant this week, Pluto, the black cat, who returns from the dead side to deliver justice. The episode takes some interesting turns as Julie and Jarad discuss how turning people and pets into objects may backfire. A cat might just cash in several of its nine lives to make sure you get what you deserve. Topics: Alcohol abuse, animal abuse, the inherent domestic violence in this story that often gets glossed over for the more supernatural elements. Sources: The Black Cat, by Edgar Allan Poe Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E9
June 7 · 48 min
Revenants Part 1: When You Give Death Too Much Power
Send us Fan Mail In a precursor to a discussion about non-vampire revenants, Julie and Jarad discuss how the instead of overcoming Death, theology centered on Hell gives Death ultimate power. Come think about the (maybe) ultimate ending with us. Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E8
May 13 · 1 hr 4 min
Vampires: Hungry, Hungry Hellions
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad discuss how vampires represent the voracious nature of Hell, how vampires became erotic figures, and how rampant, unregulated capitalism may be changing the way we think about these undead creatures. Sources: A History of the Vampire in Popular Culture: Love at First Bite Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E7
May 3 · 55 min
Trump, Blasphemy and What Would (Sixteen-year-old) Julie Think?
Send us Fan Mail Warning ahead listeners! Julie lost her research glasses and went on a rant instead of writing a script. Listen as Julie asks her sixteen-year-old evangelical self to weigh in on whether picturing yourself as Jesus would have been theologically acceptable in her church. From there our hosts go off on a right old rant about politics in general. Content warning: Tangential discussion of abortion (which can be upsetting for some current or former evangelicals) Sources: Trump Supporters Are Now Asking If He's the Antichrist Trump Post of Himself as Jesus Includes Strange Horned Creature Not in Original Trump’s territorial ambition: new imperialism or a case of the emperor’s new clothes? Why Trump's AI Image Is Reviving Old Antichrist Claims in New Ways Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E6
March 29 · 1 hr 4 min
Interview With Author Naomi Ulsted: Defying Hell by Finding Hope
Send us Fan Mail This week, Julie and Jarad talk to writer Naomi Ulsted about her upcoming memoir, her book, The Apology Box, and how the fires of Hell from her evangelical upbringing influenced her work. Our conversation runs the gamut from Hell on Earth to finding a little hope along the way. Naomi writes about family connections, church connections, lasting damage and the healing power of the environment. Naomi Ulsted writes fiction and non-fiction. She’s the author of the YA novel The Apology Box (2021), which was runner-up in the Indies Today contest and a finalist in the Next Generation Indies Book Award contest. Her memoir, A Bouquet of Weeds: Growing Up Wild in the Pacific Northwest, is forthcoming from High Frequency Press. She’s been published in The Nomad, Rumpus, and The New Guard, among others. She lives in North Bend, Oregon. Naomi's Blog Sacred Chickens' Review of The Apology Box Purchase The Apology Box Glamor Shots, by Naomi Ulsted Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E5
March 7 · 1 hr 3 min
Oscar Season Episode: Jarad and Julie Discuss Sinners
Send us Fan Mail On this episode Jarad and Julie discuss the movie Sinners (with spoilers) and some of the rumination they had afterwards about racism and religion. If you didn't like this movie, you won't like this episode, because our hosts were all in. If you haven't seen this movie, it's a beautiful rendering of American mythology and folk horror and we highly recommend it. It's genre film with depth and broad appeal, a well told story with layers of history and American experience. Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E4
February 27 · 59 min
Believe Now, (The Rest of Us) Pay Later: How Evangelicals Form Belief Systems
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Julie and Jarad try to understand how what we believe about belief affects theology and society at large. How does a belief system that rejects doubt lead to authoritarianism? Should Jarad get a prophet robe to go with his flowing hair? Join us for the discussion. Sources for this week's discussion—we used these sources more for thinking than discussion this week, but these are all good reads: New Research Reveals the Limits of Christian Evangelicalism in American Society - Arizona Christian University Escaping the Evangelical Cult - Keith Giles, Patheos Cults as Power Structures - excerpted from Take Back Your Life: Recovering from Cults and Abusive Relationships by Janja Lalich and Madeleine Tobias (Bay Tree Publishing). It is posted at Apologetics Index by permission. Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E3
February 20 · 1 hr 13 min
Conversation With Robert Roper: Author of Shut Up and Drink, Goblin Girl
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad discuss an upcoming book with the author, Robert Roper, author of Shut Up and Drink, Goblin Girl, due out in 2027. We discuss demons, tropes of Hell, how monsters attract outsiders, and how we deal with darkness when we write. Along the way we discuss Hitchhikers Guide, WWI, medieval folklore, names for Polka Bands and occasions when there may be no time for pants. So don't miss this episode! Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
February 4 · 43 min
The Necessary Devil: When the Appearance of Goodness Makes You Bad
Send us Fan Mail After a tough week in this dystopian hellscape, Julie and Jarad discuss why everyone has to meet the devil—and why this is probably a good thing. They also discuss how chasing the appearance of goodness can lead to doing some really bad things. (And somehow they manage to drag Nathaniel Hawthorne into the conversation. Poor Nathaniel Hawthorne. He didn't ask for this.) This episode is a little shorter than normal, but they will back to their typical garrulousness and obstreperousity next week. Sources: Young Goodman Brown Ethics and Hypocrisy and Young Goodman Brown A Summary and Analysis of Hawthorne's Young Goodman Brown The Master and Margarita Help Free Adrian Guarneros-Paz from ICE UPDATE: Adrian is at home but will still require legal help even though he is through the first phase of his legal fight. Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E2
January 23 · 1 hr 16 min
Medieval Witch Trials: A Slow Growing Satanic Panic (and a Sprinkling of Medieval Incels)
Send us Fan Mail This week Jarad contemplates his "Hell on Earth" and why the universe seems to dislike his pants. Our cohosts discuss how Satan got so involved in magic in the Middle Ages and how that led to attitudes and misconceptions that haunt us to this day. They also discuss how sometimes people invoke Satan to make the bar for being "good" really, really, really low. Come for the camaraderie as we try to get through this thing called Hell. Stay for the jokes about medieval art and incels. This episode contains an overview of witch trials with some (though not terribly detailed) discussions of torture. Sources: Witchcraft in the Middle Ages, Medieval History The Magicians of Solomon, Bartered History Suffer Not a Witch to Live, Text and Canon Magic, the Christian Church, and the Illusion of Control, The Medieval Monk Malleus Maleficarum The Beginnings of the Witch Persecutions, Sacred Texts The Phallus Tree Phenomenon Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
January 10 · 1 hr 1 min
News From Hell: 2025
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad discuss some news stories about Hell, say a prayer for 2026 (to be addressed to the god of your choice, or none at all), and discuss their own brushes with the infernal realms this year. Here are the stories we discussed: Gates of Hell Update - Was the Last Train Out of Hell Prophetic? If Kirk Cameron Isn't Safe, How Can You Be? by Joe Boyd How Christian Nationalism Uses the Fear of Hell to Control People, by Tim Whittaker The Master and Margarita, by Mikhail Bulgakov Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
Dec 21, 2025 · 56 min
The Yule Lord: War on Christmas
Send us Fan Mail In this episode, Julie and Jarad discuss Brom's book, The Yule Lord, where Krampus goes head to head with Santa with some weird results. Along the way, we are annoyed by cats and come up with pithy slogans for possible Christmas merch way too late in the season. Join us and find out what happens when Santa and Krampus square off. (There will be spoilers ahead...so read the book first if that bothers you. If, like Julie, you feel that spoilers are a sort of super power ability to see into the future, plow ahead.) Sources: The Yule Lord, by Brom Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E2
Dec 14, 2025 · 56 min
Krampus in Our Minds and in Our Hearts
Send us Fan Mail This week Julie and Jarad explore the dark side of Christmas discovering that Christmas has a shadow that won't be denied. And maybe, we need a little Krampus after all. So join us to talk about Santa's furry helper with horns, but behave...because Krampus is out here getting weird with the birch sticks if you're naughty. We have lots of sources this time, so here goes: The Devil in Design: The Krampus Postcards/ written and designed by Monte Beauchamp Blab! The Origin of Krampus, Smithsonian Magazine German Girl in America: Belsnickel German Girl in America: Knecht Ruprecht Britannica: Santa World Mythos: Krampus Britannica: Yule Festival Winter Solstice, History.com Krampus: Origins and Development of a Winter Devil, Folklife Today We also briefly referenced this Tia Levings Interview: Tia Levings: An Insider's Account of Pete Hegseth and Doug Wilson's Cruel Religious Movement, on Culture, Faith, and Politics with Pat Kahnke Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E2
Nov 22, 2025 · 1 hr 13 min
How C.S. Lewis Helped Me Leave the Church
Send us Fan Mail It's another field trip! Pack a water bottle and a first-aid kit. Take the Bus from Hell to Heaven with our brave cohosts. In this episode, Julie discusses how The Great Divorce, started her on a path out of the church. (Probably not the author's intent, but this podcast is rife with unintended consequences, as evidenced by the lives of the hosts.) Along the way, Julie and Jarad rescue Crowley, discuss the importance being able to consider other viewpoints, and explore whether God is more like your granddad or a big, dark void. They also manage to get off at a few wrong bus stops on the way back. Sources: The Great Divorce, by C.S. Lewis Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S2 · E1
Nov 14, 2025 · 1 hr 4 min
Ghosts in the System; How the Supernatural Haunts Religion
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad discuss the ways that supernatural stories can challenge the religious systems we're born with and force us to consider whether we can actually know everything about something so much bigger than we are. Come for the ghost stories, stay to see what it's like to be in Julie's head. Find out whether or not Jarad managed to summon a demon when he was nine. (Spoiler: the jury may still be out.) Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.
S1 · E28
Oct 31, 2025 · 1 hr 14 min
PCS Grand Finale: How Much Infernal Spaghetti Will Stick to the Wall?
Send us Fan Mail Julie and Jarad discuss their findings from their first season, whether or not Crowley is an entity from the dark lord, and then ask themselves how they can change Hell. (Jarad is leaning towards hiring a new decorator.) Come wrap up season one with us. You can use this episode to fondly remember your own favorite episode, compose a letter of stern disagreement, or even use it as a starting point for choosing episodes if this is your first time listening. You can contact us at julie@sacredchickens.com or get in touch at Perdition City Station Instagram. Season 2 starts next week! Support the show Meet us here at Perdition City Station every week for another excursion into Hell. Hosted by Julie Price Carpenter and Jarad Johnson. Podcast artwork by Carmen Jones; intro, intermission and outro music by Essie Lee; episode artwork by Julie Carpenter; this is a production of Sacred Chickens. Produced by Julie Carpenter Follow Julie: @sacredchickens.bsky.social and Substack Follow Jarad: https://substack.com/@jaradjohnson1 This podcast has adult language and topics and stories related to Hell and the devil. We occasionally discuss death, suicide, and other unpleasant topics, usually related to religion, folklore or mythology.

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