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- PC#378September 1 · 23 min
PCB Chat 162: HDP User Group Annual Update With Madan Jagernauth
The High Density Packaging User Group recently released its Annual Progress Report. In this episode, Marketing Director Madan Jagernauth discusses the group's R&D activities over the past year, as well as the challenges facing designers and manufacturers working with today's extreme densities and the organization's future plans. He also shares a preview of several sessions that the group will present at PCB West 2026.
- PC#377August 23 · 16 min
RM 199: Good Adhesive, Bad Bond: The Hidden Causes of Adhesion Failure
Adhesive failures can be frustrating because the problem isn’t always obvious. The adhesive may have been properly selected, the part may look clean, and the process may seem under control. But weeks or months later, a coating lifts, an encapsulant separates, or a bond fails in the field. So what went wrong? In this episode of Reliability Matters Mike Konrad is joined by David Dworak, material scientist at Dymax, to discuss the science behind reliable adhesion in electronics manufacturing. They talk about why adhesive bonding is about much more than choosing the right material. Dworak explains the role of adhesive chemistry, surface energy, wetting, contact angle measurement, surface preparation, plasma treatment, and why even a visually clean surface may not be ready for bonding. Also explored: how manufacturers can troubleshoot adhesion failures, control their bonding process, and gather objective evidence that a surface is truly ready for adhesive application. If your process involves conformal coatings, encapsulants, underfills, component bonding, or any adhesive used in electronics assembly, this conversation will help you better understand what really makes a bond reliable. “The Principals of Adhesion: Understanding Adhesive Chemistry, Application and Surface Science for Optimal Bonding Performance.” https://circuitsassembly.com/ca/editorial/menu-features/43078-the-principals-of-adhesion-understanding-adhesive-chemistry-application-and-surface-science-for-optimal-bonding-performance.html
- PC#376August 18 · 19 min
PCB Chat 161: Chris Parker Discusses Case Study on Dielectrics and Thermal Management
Thermal management is a “hot” topic right now, and with today’s rising power densities, thermal issues are moving into more mainstream PCB designs. If you’ve ever wondered whether you could squeeze another heat sink onto your board, you won’t want to miss this episode of PCB Chat. Chris Parker is the director of product engineering at TCLAD, a company that develops PCB materials designed for managing excessive heat. Today, Chris discusses a case study that TCLAD conducted with the Rochester Institute of Technology. Researchers built two electrically identical test boards – one constructed with standard FR-4, and one with TCLAD’s SFL-12 dielectric. As Chris explains, the choice of dielectric made a big difference in surface temperatures, with one power component running 26 degrees cooler on the board made with TCLAD material than on the FR-4 test board. He also walks us through what they learned from the use of thermal bridges.
- PC#375August 10 · 28 min
PCB Chat 160: Tom Kastner on M&A Trends and Global Manufacturing Challenges
Tom Kastner is the founder of GP Ventures, a company that provides M&A advisory services. He's been involved in PCB industry mergers and acquisitions for decades, and he's written extensively about M&A challenges and opportunities. In this episode of PCB Chat, Tom discusses his background and the career path that led him to become an M&A expert. He also examines some of the trends he's seeing in mergers and acquisitions, as well as the current PCB fabrication and assembly landscape in the U.S., and around the world. Plus, he answers this immortal question: How many board shops are still operating in the U.S. right now? Check it out.
- PC#374July 23 · 1 hr 9 min
RM 198: Sean Patterson on Making Al Useful in Manufacturing
Artificial intelligence is everywhere right now. It’s in the headlines, it’s being built into software tools, and it’s showing up in more and more conversations about engineering, manufacturing, quality, and process improvement. But here’s the problem. A company can buy the software. A team can attend the training. Everyone can walk away impressed by what AI might be able to do. And then, a few weeks later, very little actually changes. The tool is still there. The potential is still there. But the habits never formed. And that matters directly to reliability. In electronics manufacturing, reliability doesn’t come from good intentions. It comes from repeatable processes, disciplined execution, clear documentation, good decision-making, and the ability to recognize problems before they become failures in the field. That’s where AI can become more than just another interesting tool. Used properly, AI may be able to enhance workflows such as: • Reviewing ECOs and identifying downstream process, documentation, material, or inspection impacts • Analyzing AOI, SPI, test, and process data to detect recurring defect patterns • Supporting root cause analysis by organizing failure data, inspection results, and corrective action history • Monitoring process drift in areas such as reflow, cleaning, stencil printing, placement, and environmental conditions • Assisting with corrective action reports, customer responses, and internal documentation • Capturing tribal knowledge from meetings, shift reports, troubleshooting notes, and past problem-solving activity Those are all reliability-related activities. They touch the way products are designed, built, inspected, documented, corrected, and improved. But AI only helps if it becomes part of the way work actually gets done. Mike Konrad's guest is Sean Patterson, author of the article, “Why Your AI Training Isn’t Sticking.” Patterson argues that AI adoption is not really a training problem. It’s a habit problem. In other words, the goal isn’t simply to teach people what AI can do. The goal is to connect AI to the work people are already doing, such as preparing for meetings, reviewing engineering change orders, working through technical questions, or organizing complex problems. For those of us focused on reliability, that distinction is important. AI doesn’t replace engineering judgment, process knowledge, or verification. But when used properly, it may help strengthen the behaviors that support reliability: asking better questions, capturing knowledge, reducing overlooked details, and improving the consistency of technical decision-making. Here, Sean talks about why AI training often fails to stick, how small triggers can turn occasional use into practical habits, where AI can fit into engineering and manufacturing workflows, and how companies can approach AI in a way that is useful, responsible, and directly connected to reliability.
- PC#373July 21 · 18 min
PCB Chat 159: AJ Cooper and Itera Aim to Retire the Respin
What if PCB design respins were a thing of the past? What if updating hardware was as easy as updating software? Itera CEO AJ Cooper co-founded the company to address this exact issue. And now, Itera has developed the world's first "fluid" PCB that can rewire itself in real time. AJ will discuss this groundbreaking technology in his PCB West keynote speech, "It's Time to Retire the Respin." In this episode of PCB Chat, AJ discusses his prior work with Lyft and Uber, his efforts to eliminate PCB design respins once and for all, and the ramifications of this "liquid metal" technology on hardware design. He also provides a preview of his PCB West keynote, which takes place at 11 a.m. on Sept. 30 at the Santa Clara Convention Center.
- PC#372July 13 · 15 min
PCB Chat 158: Wally Rhines on the Latest ECAD Market Data
Wally Rhines is the spokesperson for the ESD Alliance, part of Semiconductor Equipment and Materials International. He joins Andy Shaughnessy every quarter to share details from the latest ESD Alliance report on sales of computer-aided engineering tools, semiconductor tools, PCB design software, related IP and services, and employment. In this interview, Wally discusses the results for Q1 2026, which marks the 21st consecutive quarter of year-on-year growth. He also delves into some of the market drivers in the electronics industry, as well as challenges and opportunities that he's seeing around the globe.
- PC#371July 8 · 1 hr
RM 197: Closing the Gap Between Validation and Reality
What if passing the test is not enough? In reliability engineering, we often place a great deal of confidence in laboratory validation. We test, measure, analyze, and document. And when the product passes, we naturally assume it is ready for the field. But what happens when a product passes the lab test and still fails in the hands of the customer? Today, we are going to explore the gap between laboratory reliability testing and actual field performance. It is a gap that can be costly, frustrating, and sometimes difficult to explain. Products can perform well under controlled test conditions, yet still experience unexpected failures when exposed to real users, real environments, real service conditions, and real-world variability. Mike Konrad's guest is Dr. Nishith Kumar Reddy Gorla of CORE ITS LLC. Dr. Gorla’s work focuses on system-level reliability testing, field reliability alignment, reliability growth, and test-to-field correlation for complex products. His recent paper, “System-Level Test Case Design for Field Reliability Alignment in Complex Products,” looks at why traditional reliability test methods may miss important field failure modes. More importantly, it proposes a broader approach to test case design that considers not just the product design, but also actual use conditions, field failure data, end-user behavior, service procedures, manufacturing variation, consumables, and product interfaces. This is an important conversation because reliability is not simply about passing a test. It is about understanding how a product behaves in the real world, where variables interact, users behave unpredictably, environments change, and failure mechanisms may not appear until the system is challenged in realistic ways. If you design, build, test, specify, or depend on complex products, this discussion should be especially relevant. Today, we will talk about why products sometimes pass in the lab but fail in the field, how better system-level test cases can improve field correlation, and what reliability professionals can do to create test methods that more accurately reflect real-world performance.
- PC#370July 1 · 47 min
RM 196: Dr. James Maisiri on Responsible Technology Adoption
Today, we’re going to explore a topic that seems to be touching nearly every industry, every workplace, and increasingly every part of our daily lives: artificial intelligence. But this conversation is not just about what AI can do. It’s about what AI assumes, what it values, what it misses, and what happens when powerful technologies are deployed into environments they were not designed to understand. Mike Konrad's guest is Dr. James Maisiri, an AI researcher and writer whose work focuses on responsible AI, digital transformation, education, labor markets, and the societal impact of emerging technologies. His work has been featured through organizations and publications including UNESCO, Guardian, and others, and his message is both simple and profound: AI is not neutral. In one of his three TEDx talks, Dr. Maisiri said, "If Africa does not shape AI, then AI will shape Africa." While his work often focuses on African communities and institutions, the lesson is much broader. Every industry, including electronics manufacturing, needs to think carefully about how we adopt AI, what assumptions are built into these systems, and how we validate their use before trusting their output. In electronics reliability, we often say that context matters. Materials, environments, residues, humidity, temperature, field conditions, and use cases all influence performance.
- PC#369June 15 · 11 min
RM 194: Why Post-Reflow Cleaning Is Becoming Mainstream Again, Part 2
This is part two of a two-part series. In Part One, we explored how the electronics industry transitioned from a clean-everything approach to one where cleaning became optional. But what happens when the assumptions behind “no-clean” collide with modern electronics design? In this episode of Reliability Matters, Mike Konrad examines how the definition of cleanliness has fundamentally changed. As assemblies became smaller, denser, and increasingly deployed into harsh environments, the industry discovered that historical cleanliness standards were no longer sufficient to predict real-world reliability. Modern low stand-off components like QFNs, BGAs, and CSPs create tight geometries where residues can become trapped and difficult to remove, while thermal cycling and internal condensation can create localized harsh environments inside the product itself. This episode explores: • Why IPC moved away from fixed cleanliness limits • The growing importance of SIR and ROSE testing • Why “cleanliness” is now tied to risk, not a number • How internal condensation can trigger electrochemical migration • Why no-clean flux has become the most commonly cleaned flux type in the industry • The return of cleaning as a mainstream reliability process • Why modern assemblies require aggressive spray-in-air cleaning technologies instead of historical immersion-based vapor degreasing methods • How diffused spray patterns improve cleaning beneath low stand-off components Konrad also explains how modern cleaning challenges are no longer just about chemistry. They are about physics, fluid delivery, and whether the cleaning process can physically reach contamination hidden beneath today’s densely packed components. As electronics continue to shrink and reliability expectations continue to rise, one question becomes increasingly important: Clean enough for what? If you work in electronics manufacturing, reliability engineering, process engineering, or quality assurance, this episode provides a detailed look at why post-reflow cleaning has once again become a critical part of modern electronics manufacturing.
- PC#368June 1 · 25 min
PCB Chat 157: Tomachie's CJ Clark Discusses AI-driven Schematic and Test Analysis
Tomachie has quite a few tricks up its sleeve. Its eponymous platform provides AI-assisted analysis of PCB schematic data. It optimizes DfT and identifies the ideal locations for physical test point insertion. And it generates a 0-100 layout-readiness score, providing design teams with an objective, data-driven metric. Tomachie is the brainchild of CJ Clark, a veteran test engineer with a background in JTAG and boundary scan technology, not to mention five patents under his belt. He is also CEO of Intellitech, Tomachie's sibling company. CJ spoke with Andy Shaughnessy about Tomachie, what AI can and can't do, and why he wishes his team had access to a tool like this 25 years ago.
- PC#366May 29 · 13 min
RM 193: Why Post-Reflow Cleaning Is Becoming Mainstream Again
For decades, cleaning circuit assemblies after soldering was not optional. It was standard practice across the electronics manufacturing industry. Then, almost overnight, that changed. In this episode of Reliability Matters, Mike Konrad takes you back to the origins of that shift. From the widespread use of CFC-based cleaning solvents to the global impact of the Montreal Protocol, this episode explains how environmental regulation led to the rapid adoption of no-clean flux and the removal of cleaning as a standard process step. But that decision came with assumptions. Assumptions based on larger components, wider spacing, and assemblies that were far more tolerant of residues than what we see today. As electronics evolved, so did the risk. Miniaturization, increased component density, and the expansion of electronics into harsh environments have dramatically reduced the tolerance for contamination. And when cleaning was removed, it wasn’t just flux that remained. It was the totality of residues introduced throughout the manufacturing process. This episode walks through how those residues, combined with moisture and electrical bias, can lead to electrochemical migration, including parasitic leakage and dendritic growth, often resulting in delayed or intermittent failures. This is the story of how we got here. In Part 2, we bring this discussion into the present. What does “clean” actually mean today? Why did the industry move away from fixed cleanliness limits? And why is cleaning once again becoming a critical part of modern electronics manufacturing? If you’ve ever asked the question, “Do I really need to clean?” Part 2 will challenge how you think about the answer.
- PC#367May 29 · 39 min
RM 192: Why PCB Revision Errors Are a Hidden Reliability Risk
Today, we’re going to explore a topic that doesn’t always get the attention it deserves but has a direct impact on product quality and long-term reliability. Mike Konrad is joined by Mehdi Nahali, founder of PCB Revision Control PRO. His platform is designed to replace spreadsheets, emails, and disconnected systems with a centralized approach to PCB revision lifecycle management and factory intelligence. They going to talk about how revision control, data integrity, and process discipline impact reliability, and where manufacturers are still getting it wrong.
- PC#365May 28 · 1 hr
RM 191: Why Maintenance Is Finally Getting a Seat at the Table
Today’s episode is going to resonate with anyone responsible for uptime, efficiency, and ultimately, product reliability. Because whether we’re talking about circuit assemblies, manufacturing lines, or entire facilities, reliability doesn’t start at inspection. It starts with maintenance. Mike Konradf's guest is Paul Ross, chief marketing officer at Limble, a company providing modern maintenance and asset management solutions to thousands of organizations worldwide. With more than 25 years of experience in enterprise and high-growth software companies, Ross has spent his career helping organizations leverage data, systems, and strategy to improve performance. Today, we’re going to explore how maintenance has evolved from a reactive necessity to a strategic driver of reliability, what companies are still getting wrong, and how modern tools are changing the game.
- PC#364May 27 · 14 min
PCB Chat 156: Lauren Waslick and Kristen Aguiar of Newgrange Design
Printed circuit designers Lauren Waslick and Kristen Aguiar of Newgrange Design have become mainstays as presenters at industry conferences such as PCB East and PCB West. Neither, however, anticipated a career in PCBs coming out of college. They discuss their career paths, finding mentors, and adjusting to a male-heavy industry with PCEA managing editor Ryann Howard.
- PC#363April 24 · 59 min
RM 189: Predict, Prevent, Produce: RoviSys' Bryan DeBois on Manufacturing's Al Future
What if your factory could predict failures before they happen, capture decades of human expertise, and make better decisions than ever before—without replacing the people who run it? Today’s guest sits right at the intersection of innovation and industry. Bryan DeBois, director of industrial AI at RoviSys, is helping reshape what manufacturing looks like in the age of intelligent machines. From predictive analytics that catch problems before they happen, to data-driven systems that optimize production in real time, DeBois's work is transforming how factories think, learn, and produce. But this isn’t about replacing people, it’s about amplifying human expertise and capturing decades of industrial knowledge before it disappears. In this episode, we’ll explore how smart factories are changing the game, what it really takes to begin a digital transformation, and why trust and transparency are just as critical as algorithms and code. What stands out most is DeBois’s ability to make advanced technology practical. He’s not talking about theory, he’s helping real manufacturers integrate AI in ways that improve safety, efficiency, and sustainability. Mike Konrad speaks with DeBois about how artificial intelligence is redefining manufacturing, the challenges of digital transformation, and the future of smart factories.
- PC#361April 20 · 20 min
PCB Chat 155: Breadboard's Nemanja Jokanovic on Automating BOM Management
Nemanja Jokanovic is the executive leader of Breadboard, an AI-powered platform that he believes will revolutionize BOM management. In this interview with Andy Shaughnessy, Jokanovic, an Octopart alum, discusses the many sourcing challenges facing EMS companies today, and he explains how Breadboard optimizes BOM analysis and supply chain management. Stop by and chat with Jokanovic in person at PCB East 2026. Breadboard will be exhibiting on April 29 at the DCU Center in Worcester, MA.
- PC#362April 16 · 59 min
RM 187: An Academic Look at Al in Electronics Manufacturing: Where It Works, Fails, and Why It Matters
Artificial intelligence is being promoted as the next revolution in electronics manufacturing, but what happens when the people evaluating it aren’t traditional AI experts, aren’t software vendors, and aren’t selling anything? Today’s conversation brings together engineers and professors who live at the intersection of education, reliability, and real-world manufacturing to separate meaningful progress from speculation. This episode is all about “AI in Action: Progress, Pitfalls, and the Future of Electronics.” Artificial intelligence is becoming a frequent topic in electronics manufacturing—from inspection and process optimization to predictive maintenance and reliability modeling. But rather than approaching this conversation from the standpoint of AI evangelists or software developers, we’re taking a different path. Mike Konrad's panelists are Eva Hymes, Hayden Lee, Dr. Ron Lasky, Dr. John Evans, and Dr. Pradeep Lall. None of today’s panelists claims to be AI experts. Instead, they are engineers and professors who sit at the intersection of education, engineering, and real-world manufacturing challenges. Their perspective is grounded in physics, data, reliability science, and decades of experience teaching the next generation of engineers—many of whom will be working alongside AI-driven tools whether they choose to or not. Because all of the panelists come from academia, this conversation intentionally steps back from hype and buzzwords. We’ll focus on how AI is actually being used, where it shows promise, where it introduces risk, and where critical gaps still exist—especially in high-reliability electronics manufacturing. We’ll also touch on broader societal questions, including how AI is shaping engineering education and professional intuition.
- PC#360April 13 · 20 min
PCB Chat 154: Wally Rhines on the Latest ECAD Market Data
Wally Rhines is the spokesperson for the ESD Alliance, part of Semiconductor Equipment and Materials International. He joined Andy Shaughnessy to share details from the latest ESD Alliance report on sales of computer-aided engineering tools, semiconductor tools, PCB design software, related IP and services, and employment. In this interview, Wally discusses the results for the fourth quarter of 2025, which marks the 20th consecutive quarter of year-on-year growth. What are the drivers behind this winning streak, and what "soft spots" should be on our radar screens?