Other People's Pockets

Skip the Marriage, Build the Village

Today I’m bringing you an interview with someone I’m calling Heather. She was one of the many amazing listeners who responded to my listener survey and she wrote something that intrigued me so much that I decided to reach out to her. (Don't worry, the survey is anonymous, but in this case she chose to enter her email!) She wrote: "I’m a professor (mid-career) and I’m really struggling to make ends meet as a single mom of twins. I constantly wonder why this is so. Having a PhD shouldn’t mean financial struggle. Or at least, that wasn’t how it was a generation ago." For this interview, Heather wanted to talk to me anonymously so that she could be really open about her financial situation and not risk anything when it comes to her job. Heather lives and works in Baltimore with her twin 10-year olds and with her mother. In addition to being a professor of history, she's also a community advocate and organizer around public education. She has built a village of friends, neighbors, and family members on her street and in her wider community. You'll hear in this episode how deep down, she always knew she desired the collective, rather than a diamond ring. If you’re a regular listener of Other People’s Pockets, or even if this is your first listen, please fill out the listener survey! It gives you a chance to help shape the future of this show. The responses are completely anonymous and it is totally optional if you do want to include your contact info. Find links to all of my socials at mayalau.com If you would like to sponsor this show, please reach out at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com And please give this show a rating and review on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen! Thank you so much. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Sex Ed? Six Figures! With Podcaster & Educator Danielle Bezalel

Danielle Bezalel is a sex educator and small business owner who is the creator and host of the podcast Sex Ed with DB. It’s a great show that explores all the things you might wonder about sexuality, bodies and pleasure but might be too afraid to talk about openly. She does it all in a science-backed, friendly environment. As I’m exploring building out the business of my show, I was so curious to learn about how Danielle has monetized her content, and how she is teaching other indie creators to do the same. After earning her Master’s in Public Health from Columbia and working for other people, she was able to quit her day job because she was making such promising money on her own business. It did not all happen overnight though — Danielle walked me through the process it took to get there, and the challenges of making money in an industry where you’re often at risk of being shadow-banned or having your social media accounts shut down for having content that gets flagged, no matter how educational it might be. Follow Danielle: Sex Ed with DB Instagram: @sexedwithdbpodcast TikTok: @sexedwithdb YouTube: @sexedwithdb Threads: @sexedwithdbpodcast Danielle also mentioned her new resource hub for indie podcasters: monetizeyourindiepod.com. Check it out if you’re a podcaster who wants to land aligned sponsors, build a stronger pitch, and make your show financially sustainable without needing tons of downloads. And tell me who you are, listener of Other People's Pockets! Fill out the anonymous listener survey to help shape the future of this show. Follow Maya: mayalau.com Instagram: @itsmayamoney LinkedIn: @mayalau TikTok @itsmayamoney YouTube: @itsmayamoney Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Housing & Healthcare: Money Talk With My Husband

Today I’m bringing you mini episode — a conversation my husband and I recently had about some aspects of our finances. I love knowing about how couples talk about money, or about how any two people navigate their spending together. Because at the end of the day, finance is not something we manage in a vacuum — it’s almost always an exchange and a representation of a relationship of some kind. Find all of Maya's socials at: mayalau.com Send guest ideas, questions, or suggestions to: otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Maya is Secretly Sporty (in a dance way!)

Today I’m bringing you a look into a side of my life that is exercise and dance. This episode is actually not about personal finance … there is more of that coming very soon. Instead, I’m featuring an episode from the podcast Secretly Sporty, where they interviewed me about why I dance and how that informs my life. Secretly Sporty is a new podcast hosted by writer and academic Sebastian Langdell about the way that exercise can inform our creative output, even if our workouts don’t necessarily have anything to do with our work. Last year, Sebastian wrote an op-ed in the New York Times called “A Medievalist Hits the Gym,” which was about what weightlifting has to do with medieval literature. I encourage you to go check out that article to see how he threaded that needle. The article served as a spark for Secretly Sporty, where he’s interviewed cartoonist Alison Bechdel, NYT columnist Jamelle Bouie, comedian Chris Duffy and many others about their workout routines and how they impact the life of the mind. I’m by no means a professional dancer, never have been, never been close to that (!) It’s just something I like to do in my spare time. So it was really fun to be asked about it, because it’s just something I *do* — not something that I *think* about that much. So thank you, Sebastian, for having me on! Go listen and subscribe to Secretly Sporty wherever you get podcasts. And! I have been working on a stealth side project having to do with the intersection of DANCE and FINANCE. If that at all piques your interest, what DANCE has to do with FINANCE, whether you’re a dancer, or a financier or both, please write to me at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com or slide into my DM's on Instagram @itsmayamoney, or find me on LinkedIn. However you want to reach me, I would love to talk. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Jessica Slice on the Finances of Being Disabled

Today we're featuring Jessica Slice, a disabled author, speaker and essayist. Her book, “Unfit Parent: A Disabled Mother Challenges an Inaccessible World,” is an amazing look at how her experience in her body — which more often than not needs to be in a reclining position — has been an unexpected asset in her ability to parent & connect with her children. She also writes about the challenges it brings and the very diverse experiences of other disabled people in their lives as parents. Jessica has one of the more drastic and interesting financial and life transformations of any guest on OPP. Growing up, she was able-bodied, and then one day at age 28 she went on a hike that left her so exhausted she could barely function. That incident triggered a series of symptoms that would later reveal a disability, which she’ll explain more in this episode. Her disability requires her to do most of her work in her adjustable bed, and largely prevents her from walking very much, or from traveling. This killed her former career as a highly-compensated real estate agent and forever altered the trajectory of her work prospects. She talked to me about how expensive it is to be disabled, how she forged an alternate career path and she gave some advice about how to get into the lucrative racket of paid speaking gigs. If you haven't already, please fill out the OTHER PEOPLE'S POCKETS LISTENER SURVEY! It really helps us grow the show. Email me (Maya) with guest ideas, questions, or hello's at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com. Find links to my socials here. Find Jessica: jessicaslice.com Instagram Substack Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Tell me who you are, listener!

I want to know who you are. I mean that in the best possible way. Here's the thing about making a podcast: you spend a lot of time creating something, you put that thing out into the world, and … you really don’t know who exactly is listening to it. I do have some audience demographic data, but it’s not very robust. Knowing who is listening helps me land potential sponsors, and that helps OPP grow. So I made a survey. It takes about three minutes. Help shape the future of this show! Click here. And thank you! -Maya Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Sunshine Hanson on the Business of Being a Surrogate

How do you compensate someone for giving life to another person's dream? Sunshine Hanson is a three-time gestational surrogate, which means that on three different occasions, she was pregnant with and gave birth to other people’s babies, and was paid for it. Her experience of helping families who wanted biological children but could not carry them on their own and navigating the financial aspects of that, inspired her to start her own agency, called "Surrogacy is...," which matches intended parents with prospective surrogates. I’ve always wanted to interview a surrogate because I’m fascinated by the idea of getting paid to do something that is so personal and that you really can’t put a price on. We talked about how much money she made by being a surrogate; how it helped her pay off debt and reach financial goals; the ethics of paying someone to be pregnant & how to guard against exploitation; and about the financial literacy that should be talked about more in life and in the world of surrogacy. Email me (Maya) with guest ideas, questions, or hello's at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com. Find me on social media here. Find Sunshine: Surrogacy.is Instagram Facebook TikTok LinkedIn Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Margo Clayson on Learning to Budget the Hard Way

What happens when you finally start to budget in your 50s, then you discover to your total surprise that you are $40,000 in debt? I spoke to Margo Clayson about the uncomfortable conversations she had — and new relationship patterns she created — on her journey to becoming financially sound. Clayson is founder of The Mighty Microgreen, an organization that helps educators create interactive STEM and nutrition lessons using microgreens. She’s also an educator, longtime student, mom, grandmother, wife and Canadian now living in rural Idaho. I talked to her about the unusual way her financial reckoning came about, how she navigates money and marriage, and what budgeting looks like when you’re living off Social Security. Email me (Maya) with guest ideas, questions, or hello's at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com Find me on social media here. Find Margo: The Mighty Microgreen LinkedIn Instagram Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Amelie Tsoungui, Writer Who Self-Deported to Cameroon

Amelie Tsoungui is a Cameroonian immigrant who moved to the U.S. at age six. After two decades growing up in Chicago and spending part of her 20s in L.A., she decided to self-deport to Cameroon in 2025 after the Trump administration said it would revoke Temporary Protected Status (TPS) for Cameroonian nationals. The cancellation of TPS meant she would no longer be able to live in the U.S. legally. This experience of moving back to West Africa, a home she only knew as a child, sparked her passion for digital storytelling, leading to multiple viral TikTok videos on her channel @amsthebomb237, where you can watch, almost in real-time, what it is like to transition to life in Yaoundé, the capital of Cameroon. Her work explores themes of immigration, assimilation, spirituality, feminine rage, and karmic lineage, drawing from her BFA in Film and Television from DePaul University. I spoke to Amelie as part of a series on how the Trump administration is affecting people's personal finances. Email me (Maya) with guest ideas, questions, or hello's at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com. Find me on social media here. Connect with Amelie: Linktree Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Carmen González: In Memoriam

Today we're honoring a member of the Other People's Pockets family, Carmen González, who tragically died this past August at the age of 24. Carmen was guest number 4 on this show, sharing how she handled her finances as a journalist, student and undocumented immigrant in Los Angeles. What you'll hear is a montage of voices of people who knew and loved Carmen, followed by a re-release of the episode featuring her on OPP in 2023. Carmen, if you're anywhere out there listening, we love you. And we miss you so much. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Quay Crowner, Federal Gov't Employee Whose Job Was Cut by Trump

Quay Crowner is a longtime U.S. federal government executive who served at multiple agencies, including the Internal Revenue Service, the Government Accountability Office, and the Department of Education. The 55-year-old Maryland native was most recently the Director of Outreach Impact and Engagement for Federal Student Aid at the Department of Education, when she was put on leave and ultimately fired this year as part of President Trump’s executive order to dismantle Diversity Equity and Inclusion programs, even though her job had nothing to do with DEI. I'm talking to Quay as part of a series I’m doing on how the Trump administration is affecting individuals’ personal finances. Email Maya with guest ideas, questions or hello's at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com Find Quay Crowner on LinkedIn Find Maya: Instagram TikTok LinkedIn mayalau.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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Pocket Dial: Taylor Winters, My Executive Coach

Today I’m interviewing someone who helps me immensely with my work, the way I approach my career, and how to just be more effective and intentional with my time. I’m talking to my executive coach, Taylor Winters, because she has some really interesting ideas about the concept of “enough,” which we talk about a lot on this show. This episode is a Pocket Dial! That's where we pause to reflect on the money themes that come up on Other People's Pockets. Taylor Winters is an executive coach and entrepreneur. She co-founded and managed a globally-recognized design agency to a successful exit and pivoted her focus from developing products to developing people, specifically leadership professionals across industries. She earned her coaching certification from UC Berkeley (Haas) created the leadership practice Every Day Future, and is pursuing a Masters in Applied IO Psychology from Harvard. Follow Taylor Winters: IG: @everydayfuture Follow Maya Lau: IG: @itsmayamoney LinkedIn: @mayalau TikTok @itsmayamoney YouTube: @itsmayamoney Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Cecilia Thiam, Humanitarian Aid Worker Whose World Changed After Trump Gutted USAID

Today I’m bringing you my interview with Cecilia Thiam, a 35-year-old Swiss-American humanitarian aid worker who has spent most of her career living and working in sub-saharan Africa. She lost her job after the Trump administration enacted sweeping cuts to the United States Agency for International Development (USAID). Now, she has had to scrap her plans, move to a new country with her 6-year-old daughter while parenting solo, and re-think her entire career. We spoke on July 10, 2025. This is part of a theme we are pursuing looking at how the Trump administration is affecting people’s personal finances. If you know someone who would be a great guest, get in touch at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com or on Instagram or TikTok at @itsmayamoney. And on LinkedIn! Thank you for supporting this show! Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Daishi Miguel-Tanaka, Immigrants' Rights Advocate

On this season of Other People's Pockets, we're experimenting with a new angle for some of the episodes: How is the Trump administration affecting people's personal finances? Today I'm featuring Daishi Miguel-Tanaka, an immigrants' rights advocate based in Washington, D.C. Daishi was born in Japan to a Japanese father and a Filipina mother. When he was 6, he and his family moved to the U.S. with a plan to obtain U.S. citizenship through Daishi's grandfather, a U.S. citizen. But when his grandfather died, that path to citizenship vanished, and Daishi and his family remained in the U.S. as undocumented immigrants. Since he was a teenager, Daishi has been protected from deportation because he is a recipient of Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA). He spoke about how DACA has afforded him a financial life in the U.S., and what the Trump administration means for how he's thinking about his future and his money. Follow Maya Lau: Instagram: @itsmayamoney TikTok: @itsmayamoney Email: otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

An update from me! Your host!

Whether you’re a longtime listener of Other People’s Pockets, or you’re brand new to this feed, thank you for being here! I have some news, which is that I am now publishing this show on my own! I finally have full control of this podcast feed, this show that I conceived and love so much, and I’m so excited for what this means about moving forward with creative freedom. I’m going to focus part of this next season on something a little more news-related. I’m looking at how the Trump administration is affecting people’s personal finances. Whether it's changes to immigration policy, federal job cuts, tariffs … How are these big policy changes impacting the kitchen table conversations that we’re having about our money? If you have a story you think would be great for this show, email me at otherpeoplespockets@gmail.com, or find me on Instagram or TikTok at @itsmayamoney I am going to be putting out episodes on a different schedule than before ... think about once a month, until I get up and running. A new episode of OPP drops tomorrow, July 15, 2025. Thanks everyone! Your host, Maya Lau Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Listen to my new show! Easy Money: The Charles Ponzi Story, Episode 1

I'm so proud to present the pilot episode of a new show I'm hosting, Easy Money: The Charles Ponzi Story. In 1920, a broke immigrant in Boston became one of America’s richest, most infamous men—practically overnight. In just nine months, he swindled the modern equivalent of a quarter billion dollars, upended the world of finance, and etched his name into history as the mastermind behind one of the most notorious scams ever: the Ponzi scheme. Hosted by me and featuring award-winning comedian and actor Sebastian Maniscalco, Easy Money: The Charles Ponzi Story is a docudrama that captures the rise and fall—both outrageous and tragic—of the con artist who fooled the world and paid the price. Easy Money: The Charles Ponzi Story is an Apple Original podcast, produced by AT WILL MEDIA. Follow and listen on Apple Podcasts. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Introducing my new show, Easy Money: The Charles Ponzi Story

Hi! I'm dropping in this quick note to say that Other People's Pockets will be back with new episodes soon! Also! I have a special new project to share with you. I'm hosting a new podcast that tells the story of Charles Ponzi, a broke immigrant who became one of America's richest, most infamous men, practically overnight—and etched his name into history as the mastermind behind the Ponzi scheme. Hosted by me and featuring award-winning comedian and actor Sebastian Maniscalco, Easy Money: The Charles Ponzi Story is an Apple Original podcast, produced by AT WILL MEDIA. Follow and listen on Apple Podcasts. And come see me live at the Tribeca Film Festival talking onstage about Easy Money: The Charles Ponzi Story. I'll be joined by Sebastian Maniscalco along with Will Malnati, CEO of AT WILL MEDIA, and Jamie-Lynn Sigler, of the Sopranos, our moderator. Friday June 13, 2025 5p OKX Theater at BMCC TPAC 199 Chambers St. New York, NY Tickets: https://www.tribecafilm.com/films/easy-money-the-charles-ponzi-story-with-sebastian-maniscalco-jamie-lynn-sigler-2025 Use discount code: TFPONZI30 Come say hi! IG @itsmayamoney Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Listen As I Get Financially Planned

Today on Other People's Pockets, you're going to hear what it's like to receive financial planning advice, and the person receiving the advice is ... me! My income, savings, and retirement goals will get scrutinized by Isabel Barrow, director of financial planning at Edelman Financial Engines and frequent guest on the podcast Everyday Wealth, along with Jean Chatzky, financial journalist and bestselling New York Times author who is also the host of Everyday Wealth. This special episode of Other People's Pockets was produced with support from the Everyday Wealth podcast. Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

Things are different now with our money

It's hard to believe it, but this is the 35th episode of Other People's Pockets, which means it's the end of our first season! For this special episode, we reached out to some of our past guests for a "Look Back" -- an update on their financial situations & viewpoints. Cord Jefferson stopped earning money for a while and didn't know when more would come. Carmen González is learning how to apply for credit cards now that she's a U.S. citizen. Laura Lyster-Mensch decided she had been too cagey about her money on this show and now wants to reveal all. And more! Follow Maya Lau at: Twitter: @mayalau Instagram: @itsmayamoney TikTok: @itsmayamoney Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

How I do money after severing ties with my family (Jessica)

Building credit. Being on your parent's cell phone plan. Learning to drive. There are many financial benefits to having a relationship with your family of origin. Today's guest, Jessica, has experienced what it’s like to not have those advantages. Jessica severed ties with her biological parents due to emotional abuse she experienced from them throughout her life. Jessica has built a strong network of friends — her chosen family — who contribute money when she needs a security deposit and give her rides to appointments. She explains how personal finance looks different when you have an alternative definition of family, and how she has a new outlook on asking for help and taking on debt. Follow Maya Lau at: Twitter: @mayalau Instagram: @itsmayamoney TikTok: @itsmayamoney Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy