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Oh Hell No...Not My Data

Keisha Bent

Oh Hell No...Not My Data is a cybersecurity podcast that goes far beyond cybersecurity fundamentals and eGRC basics. We dive into the real-world challenges leaders face everyday from governance gaps and operational pressure to team culture, communication, navigating career transition and the emerging world of AI.

Hosted by Keisha Bent, the show bridges the gap between technical experts, business leaders, and rising cybersecurity professionals. Each episode delivers practical lessons, leadership perspectives, and actionable strategies for navigating modern cyber challenges.

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  • S1 · E24
    Monday · 46 min

    Episode 24: The Human Blind spot

    What if the biggest security risk isn't your software, but your instinct to trust? In this episode security analyst, best-selling author and "strategic human firewall" architect Robert Siciliano explains how criminals use AI, deepfakes and voice cloning to exploit what he calls the human blind spot. He also shares why traditional phishing training falls short and a simple playbook for breaking the fake. Robert closes with his own "Oh hell no" moment: a convincing fake Google Security call that nearly fooled him. Key topics How a 1995 hack led Robert to a 30-plus-year career in security awareness The human blind spot: how scammers weaponize trust and manufactured urgency Deepfakes, voice cloning and the $25 million Hong Kong video-call fraud Pig butchering scams and the human trafficking behind them Why phishing simulations aren't enough, and what "security appreciation" means The Triple A protocol: analyze, authenticate, act Robert's "oh hell no" moment: the fake Google Security call Connect with Robert: protectnowlc.com and LinkedInThe brief from Editor described a different episode (an early online encyclopedia with Wes). It didn't match this edit's transcript, so I wrote from the transcript. Robert's last name is spelled "Siciliano" throughout, though the transcript sometimes shows it as "Scilliano".This is a draft only. Nothing has been published or changed in Captivate.

  • S1 · E23
    October 26 · 58 min

    Episode 23: The Hidden Risks of AI Agents: Permissions, Visibility and Enterprise Governance

    AI agents are moving fast but is AI governance keeping up? In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha sits down with Nathanael Iversen, Chief Evangelist at Zentera Systems, to discuss the real-world security, governance, and oversight challenges organizations are facing as AI agent adoption accelerates. The conversation is centered on research from Zentera Systems and Trend Candy involving 251 influential security leaders and their concerns around governing AI agents at scale. Nathanael breaks down the difference between AI tools and AI agents, why agents can create new risks when operating with user permissions, and why many organizations may need to rethink visibility, authorization, credential management, and project-level isolation. The discussion also covers why leaders are worried about AI agents crossing boundaries, how companies can balance innovation with governance, and what CEOs, CIOs, CISOs, and boards should be asking right now. If your organization is exploring AI, deploying AI agents, or trying to understand the security implications of agentic AI, this episode offers practical insight into how to move forward responsibly without slowing innovation. In this episode, we discuss: The difference between AI tools and AI agents Why AI agents need stronger governance and oversight The risks of over-permissioned AI agents Project-level isolation and authorization controls Why visibility into AI agent behavior is a growing challenge What CEOs, CIOs, CISOs, and boards should ask about AI governance Real-world examples of AI agent risks and lessons learned How organizations can build safer AI sandboxes and governance models Learn more about Zentera Systems and the Agents of Change report through Zentera’s website: https://www.zentera.net/ Don’t forget to like, subscribe, and share for more conversations on data privacy, cybersecurity, AI governance, and responsible technology.

  • S1 · E22
    October 19 · 1 hr 21 min

    Episode 22: What Big Tech Doesn't Want You To Know About Your Data with Daniel Rodgers

    In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha sits down with Daniel C. Rodgers, award-winning author, former big tech program manager, podcaster, financial freedom expert, and creator of the Escape the Clock methodology for a powerful conversation about privacy, AI, data collection, and the hidden cost of convenience. Daniel shares insights from more than 20 years in tech, including work connected to Microsoft, Google, cloud, product, program management, and AI infrastructure. Together, Keisha and Daniel explore why personal data is more valuable than most people realize, how AI changes the privacy conversation, and why clicking “accept,” “allow,” or “agree” without pausing can have long-term consequences. The conversation also dives into Daniel’s science fiction novel Kill Switch, a warning-style exploration of artificial intelligence, control, human autonomy, surveillance, and what could happen if society hands too much power over to systems we may not be able to shut down. From real-world phishing stories to AI-generated images, data brokers, smart devices, surveillance, and the future of personal freedom, this episode will make you rethink what you share online and who may be using it. Learn more about Daniel C. Rodgers: www.escapetheclock.com #podmatch I connected with Daniel through Podmatch. Join Podmatch and connect with amazing guests like Daniel https://www.joinpodmatch.com/ohhellno.

  • S1 · E21
    October 12 · 27 min· Video

    Bonus Episode 21: Cybersecurity Awareness Month: Small Business, Big Risk: Cybersecurity Moves That Matter

    In this special Cybersecurity Awareness Month episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha welcomes back Robert Maxwell, founder of TGT Solutions, to discuss practical cybersecurity strategies for small and medium-sized businesses. Many small business owners believe they are “too small” to be attacked, but Robert explains why that assumption can put business data, customer trust, and company reputation at risk. This episode breaks down common vulnerabilities, why prevention matters, how to think about cybersecurity on a small budget, and the practical steps every business can take to strengthen protection over time. You’ll learn why cybersecurity is not a one-time task, how awareness training can help teams stop and review before clicking suspicious emails, why multi-factor authentication matters, and how working with the right partner can help small businesses build a realistic month-over-month cybersecurity plan. Robert also shares an important reminder about AI: bad actors can use AI too, so businesses need to understand what data is exposed, what is password protected, what is logged, and where expert guidance may be needed. If you are a small or mid-sized business owner, this episode is a reminder that protecting your data is not just about technology, it is about protecting your customers, your reputation, and the future of your business.

  • S1 · E20
    October 6 · 43 min

    Episode 20: Third-Party Cyber Risk: How to Protect Your Supply Chain with Jeffrey Wheatman

    In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, host Keisha Bent sits down with cybersecurity and cyber risk expert Jeffrey Wheatman of Black Kite to unpack one of today’s biggest business challenges: third-party cyber risk and supply chain security. They explore why traditional vendor risk assessments are no longer enough, how cyber incidents can cascade across physical and digital supply chains, and why continuous monitoring and collective resilience matter more than ever. Jeffrey shares practical insights on third-party risk management, including how to identify critical vendors, manage fourth-party risk, strengthen vendor contracts, prepare for ransomware and other cyber incidents, communicate cyber risk to executives and boards, including a few tips on off-boarding vendors. The conversation also examines how AI can transform vendor risk monitoring, data analysis, and risk discovery. Whether you work in cybersecurity, risk management, GRC, vendor management, procurement, or business leadership, this episode offers actionable strategies for building a more resilient supply chain and managing cyber risk before disruption hits.

  • S1 · E19
    September 28 · 41 min· Video

    Episode 19: Quantum Is Coming for Your Trust With David Pollak

    Quantum computing could change everything we know about cybersecurity especially the cryptography we rely on every day. In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha talks with David Pollak, founder of Spice Labs, about post-quantum cryptography, digital trust, and why organizations need to understand where cryptography lives inside their software before quantum computing makes current encryption easier to break. David breaks down complex topics like public and private keys, digital signatures, encrypted connections, cryptographic libraries, and the difference between Harvest Now, Decrypt Later and Harvest Now, Forge Later attacks. He also explains why the biggest threat may not just be stolen data, it may be the erosion of trust when attackers can forge signatures, commands, or documents that look legitimate. This episode is perfect for cybersecurity professionals, technology leaders, students, and anyone who wants a clearer understanding of how quantum computing may impact data security, software systems, and the future of digital trust. Topics include: Cryptography explained for beginners Public key vs. private key encryption Quantum computing and cybersecurity risk Post-quantum cryptography readiness Cryptographic Bill of Materials AI and cryptographic attacks Software maintenance as a security strategy Learn more about David Pollak and Spice Labs at SpiceLabs.io.

  • S1 · E18
    September 21 · 35 min· Video

    Episode 18: The Cyborg CEO: How to Use AI to Scale Your Business Without Losing the Human Touch

    In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha sits down with Darren Goonawardana, CEO of Collective, to explore the rise of the “Cyborg CEO”—a leader who combines human intelligence with AI to work smarter, automate strategically, and drive better business outcomes. Darren shares lessons from 30 years in tech and explains why the future isn’t simply AI replacing humans, but humans and technology working together. On this episode you’ll learn how CEOs and business owners can identify the right processes to automate, why human judgment should remain in the loop, and why simply using AI to recreate a bad business process misses the opportunity. Darren also shares Collective’s experience using AI across marketing, sales, and back-office operations while balancing governance, data security, cost, and ROI. The conversation covers: How to start implementing AI in your business What CEOs should automate first—and what they shouldn’t AI agents, automation, and the “Cyborg CEO” mindset Why AI adoption is often a cultural challenge, not just a technology challenge Data governance, privacy, security, and responsible AI adoption How businesses can measure AI costs, productivity, and ROI Why human experience and judgment still matter How to redesign workflows instead of automating broken processes Darren’s unexpected “Oh Hell No” moment that changed Darren’s perspective on business and life Whether you’re a CEO, entrepreneur, technology leader, cybersecurity professional, or business owner exploring artificial intelligence, this episode offers practical insights for adopting AI while keeping humans where they matter most. Subscribe to Oh Hell No…Not My Data for conversations about AI, cybersecurity, GRC, data, technology, and the changing world of work.

  • S1 · E17
    September 14 · 52 min· Video

    Episode 17: Enterprise Transformation in the Age of AI: What Project Leaders Need to Know

    In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha sits down with Rick Catalano, author of The AI Project Manager and founder of the AI Project Manager Certification Program, to unpack what decades of enterprise transformation experience have taught Richard about failed projects, disconnected data, leadership, and the future of project management. If you work in project management, consulting, enterprise technology, transformation, or AI, this conversation offers a practical look at where project leadership is headed. Please Like, subscribe, share, and leave a comment to support Oh Hell No…Not My Data. Connect with Rick on Linkedin

  • S1 · E16
    August 31 · 26 min

    Episode 16: Cybersecurity Starts at the Top: Leadership, Risk & Protecting Your Data with Robert Maxwell

    In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha Bent sits down with Robert Maxwell, founder of TGT Solutions, to explore how organizations can strengthen cybersecurity through better leadership, risk assessment, accountability, employee training, and a security-first culture. Robert shares real-world cybersecurity stories, explains why organizations should assess their security posture before investing in solutions, and discusses how frameworks like NIST can support a stronger cybersecurity strategy. The conversation also explores emerging challenges involving AI, automation, and increasingly complex cyber threats. Whether you’re a business owner, executive, IT leader, or professional responsible for protecting sensitive data, this episode offers practical insights for turning cybersecurity from a technical concern into an ongoing business discipline. Connect with Robert Maxwell on LinkedIn To try PocketPrep visit: https://pocketprep.sjv.io/ohnotmydata⁠.

  • S1 · E15
    August 24 · 34 min

    Episode 15: AI and the Future of Work: How to Amplify Human Potential with Aaron Strout

    What does it really mean to thrive in an AI-powered world without losing what makes us human? In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha sits down with Aaron Strout, author of Wired for Purpose and a technology and marketing executive with more than 25 years of experience, to explore how AI is changing work, marketing, creativity, and leadership. Aaron makes the case for treating AI as a force multiplier, technology that can help people work smarter, generate more ideas, and create new opportunities rather than simply replace people. We talk about why organizations should look beyond cost-cutting when measuring AI success, the importance of keeping humans in the loop, and the skills professionals need to stay relevant as AI evolves. Aaron also shares why experimentation, human behavior, data, authentic connection, and purpose will matter even more in an AI-driven future. If you're thinking about the future of AI, work, marketing, leadership, or your own career, this conversation offers a practical perspective on embracing what’s next while staying grounded in human judgment, creativity, and purpose. #AI #FutureOfWork #ArtificialIntelligence #Marketing #Leadership #HumanCenteredAI #DigitalTransformation #WiredForPurpose #ohhellnonotmydatapodcast

  • S1 · E14
    August 18 · 34 min

    Episode 14: AI at Work: Shadow AI, Data Privacy & Responsible AI Governance

    In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha sits down with legal and compliance professional Christina Kueppers to explore the risks and realities of AI governance in the workplace. From shadow AI and confidential data to employee training and organizational accountability, Christina explains why adopting AI responsibly requires more than simply approving a tool. The conversation dives into practical approaches to identifying AI use, setting effective guardrails, evaluating risk, and creating a culture where employees feel empowered to question decisions and escalate concerns. Christina also shares career insights for professionals interested in the growing field of AI governance and explains why interdisciplinary expertise will be increasingly valuable. Whether you work in legal, compliance, privacy, technology, or simply use AI at work, this episode offers a timely reminder: innovation and accountability have to move together. Click the link to connect with Christina on LinkedIn.

  • S1 · E13
    August 10 · 36 min

    Episode 13: AI in Healthcare: Fixing Prior Authorizations & Medical Claim Denials with Dr. Wael Khouli

    In this episode of “Oh Hell No…Not My Data,” host Keisha Bent sits down with physician executive and AuthSnap co-founder Dr. Wael Khouli to explore how artificial intelligence is transforming healthcare operations, particularly prior authorizations, medical claim denials, and the revenue cycle. Dr. Khouli shares the journey from practicing medicine to healthcare leadership and building AI-assisted technology designed to reduce administrative burdens. The conversation explores how responsible AI can support healthcare professionals, improve complex workflows, and help address processes that can affect both patient access to care and provider reimbursement. The episode also dives into healthcare data security, HIPAA compliance, AI governance, cybersecurity, and the importance of keeping skilled professionals involved when AI is used to process sensitive healthcare information. Whether you work in healthcare, cybersecurity, health technology, AI, or healthcare administration, this conversation offers valuable insight into the opportunities and responsibilities that come with using AI in healthcare. Connect with Dr. Khouli on LinkedIn

  • S1 · E12
    August 3 · 53 min

    Episode 12: Inside the BISO Role: How Business Information Security Officers Protect Modern Enterprises

    What does it take to bridge the gap between business and cybersecurity? In this episode, Agathe Merle shares what it's really like to be a BISO, discusses AI's evolving role in cyber defense, and offers valuable advice on leadership, career growth, and building inclusive cybersecurity teams. A must-listen for anyone interested in the future of cybersecurity Connect with Agathe Merle on LinkedIn. If you are preparing for an exam and need some help. Check out ⁠Pocket Prep https://pocketprep.sjv.io/ohnotmydata.

  • S1 · E11
    July 27 · 45 min

    Episode 11: Cyber Resilience, AI & GRC with Dr. Natalie Johnson

    Cybersecurity is constantly evolving and so are the skills, strategies, and leaders shaping its future. In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha sat down with Dr. Natalie Johnson, also known as "Dr. Resiliency," a nationally recognized cybersecurity leader with more than 20 years of experience in Governance, Risk, and Compliance (GRC), cyber resilience, AI governance, critical infrastructure, and workforce development. They dive into what it really takes to build a successful cybersecurity career, whether certifications or degrees are the better path, how AI is transforming the industry, and why cyber resilience is no longer optional. Dr. Johnson also shares insights on protecting critical infrastructure, leading through change, supporting women in cybersecurity, and why sponsorship—not just mentorship—is key to career growth. Whether you're an aspiring cybersecurity professional, an experienced practitioner, or simply curious about AI, cyber resilience, and leadership, this episode is packed with practical advice and inspiring insights you can apply to your own career. Listen now and discover why resilience isn't just about recovering from cyberattacks, it's about preparing for the future, embracing change, and continuing to grow. If you are preparing for an exam and need some help. Check out Pocket Prep

  • S1 · E10
    July 20 · 34 min

    Episode 10: Inside Cybersecurity: AI, Incident Response & Building ERM Protect with Silka Gonzalez

    In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, Keisha sits down with Silka Gonzalez, President and Founder of ERM Protect, to discuss cybersecurity leadership, digital forensics, AI governance, incident response, cyber careers, and what organizations are getting wrong about security. Drawing on nearly three decades of experience, Silka shares practical insights for cybersecurity professionals, business leaders, and anyone interested in protecting data in today's evolving threat landscape. Whether you're a CISO, cybersecurity analyst, IT professional, business owner, student, or simply interested in cybersecurity, this conversation is packed with actionable advice to help you stay ahead of today's cyber threats. If you enjoyed this episode, don't forget to Like, Subscribe, and Share to help more people protect their data and grow their cybersecurity knowledge. #Cybersecurity #DataSecurity #CyberPodcast #DigitalForensics #IncidentResponse #ArtificialIntelligence #AIGovernance #CyberAwareness #CyberCareers #WomenInCyber #Leadership #CISO #CyberDefense #DataPrivacy #TechPodcast #InformationSecurity #CyberRisk #ERMProtect #SilkaGonzalez #OhHellNoNotMyData

  • S1 · E9
    July 13 · 42 min

    Episode 9: Ask For It: How Cybersecurity Leaders Grow Their Careers with Janet Heins

    In this episode, Keisha Bent sits down with Janet Heins, Chief Information Security Officer at ChenMed and author of Go Ahead, Ask For It, to explore what it really takes to advance in cybersecurity leadership. Janet shares why technical expertise alone doesn’t lead to executive roles, how to communicate business impact, and why making your value visible is a critical leadership skill not self‑promotion. This conversation is packed with insights for cybersecurity professionals, GRC practitioners, aspiring CISOs, and anyone navigating career growth or a pivot into tech. ******************************************************** Don't forget to follow, share and leave a comment! I would love to hear from you!

  • S1 · E8
    July 6 · 58 min

    Episode 8: More Than Checklists: Building Agile GRC with Dino Price

    In this episode Keisha sits down with cybersecurity and GRC expert Dino Price to explore the evolving world of governance, risk, compliance, AI, and critical infrastructure security. Dino shares an unconventional career journey, explains how Agile GRC helps organizations simplify compliance across multiple frameworks, and discusses why understanding the purpose behind security controls is more important than simply checking boxes. The conversation also dives into AI’s growing role in compliance monitoring, the realities of FedRAMP, the importance of securing operational technology (OT) and SCADA systems, and why human expertise remains essential in cybersecurity. Dino closes with practical career advice for aspiring professionals and a memorable consulting story about preventing a costly cloud licensing mistake. The episode offers valuable insights for cybersecurity leaders, compliance professionals, and anyone interested in protecting data while enabling business growth. Get help preparing for exams with Pocket Prep: If you’re studying for a certification or pivoting into a new field, Pocket Prep is one of my favorite tools to help you stay consistent. Quick practice questions, clear explanations, and progress tracking make studying feel manageable — even with a busy life. Use my link to check it out and make your prep a little easier: https://pocketprep.sjv.io/ohnotmydata

  • S1 · E7
    June 29 · 50 min

    Episode 7: AI Scams, Deepfakes & Digital Safety with Jocelyn King

    In this episode of Oh Hell No…Not My Data, host Keisha Bent sits down with cybersecurity expert Jocelyn King for a powerful conversation about AI-driven scams, digital privacy, identity theft, and the simple habits that can help protect your personal and professional life online. Drawing from a deeply personal experience as the victim of a sophisticated cyberattack, Jocelyn shares how that journey led to a career dedicated to educating others about today's evolving cyber threats. From phishing emails and deepfake scams to fake recruiters, investment fraud, and data brokers, this cybersecurity expert talk breaks down how cybercriminals exploit trust and emotion—and what you can do to stay one step ahead. You'll also hear practical advice on safeguarding your data, using AI responsibly, protecting your finances, and creating stronger digital security habits at home and at work. Whether you're an IT leader, business professional, entrepreneur, or simply someone who wants to stay safe online, this episode delivers actionable insights you can use immediately. If you're searching for the best cybersecurity podcast for real-world advice and engaging conversations, this episode is for you. If you enjoy cybersecurity podcasts for professionals, in-depth cybersecurity guest interviews, and expert perspectives on today's biggest digital threats, subscribe to Oh Hell No…Not My Data—your go-to cybersecurity podcast for practical strategies to protect what matters most. Connect with Jocelyn King.

  • S1 · E6
    June 22 · 1 hr 16 min

    Episode 6: AI Governance & Human Learning

    On this episode, Dr. Tuboise Floyd discusses AI governance, emphasizing learning from failures and the evolving skills needed for future leaders. Discover the rise of the CAIO and how AI can be a force multiplier for education and research. Connect with Dr. Floyd on Linkedin Please subscribe and follow this podcast and if you enjoyed this episode leave a review.

  • S1 · E5
    June 15 · 42 min

    Episode 5: Cybersecurity Leadership Secrets: Ryan Barras on Risk, AI & the Modern CISO

    What does it take to lead cybersecurity at the highest level? In this episode, Ryan Barras shares insights from a career that spans business, IT, and cybersecurity leadership. Learn how today's CISOs manage risk, communicate with executives, navigate AI, and build security programs that align with business goals. Ryan also discusses third-party risk, leadership, career growth, and why strong processes and communication are often more important than technology alone. Whether you're a cybersecurity professional, IT leader, or aspiring CISO, this episode delivers practical advice for the modern security landscape. Episode Takeaways: Why the most successful CISOs focus on communication, leadership, and business strategy—not just technology Why strong processes often matter more than adding new security tools How AI is changing the role of cybersecurity leaders Practical career advice for aspiring CISOs and security professionals The skills every future cybersecurity leader needs to develop today Connect with Ryan Barras on LinkedIn Please follow, like and subscribe to my podcast. If you have a little time...leave a comment. Thank you for listening.

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