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Not a Bot?

Zane Allyn | Greg Carl

Not a Bot? | Where Technology Meets Human Judgment

Join Zane Allyn and Greg Carl as they navigate the increasingly blurry line between human intelligence and machine capability.

Zane brings 15+ years in enterprise technology and data resilience, real-world security experience, and research-focused expertise in AI threat modeling and adversarial adoption. Greg brings 17+ years architecting enterprise and federal infrastructure solutions, extensive consultancy across U.S. government agencies, and deep expertise in data center design and software-defined systems as Global Principal Technologist at Everpure. Together, they have a simple mandate: have intelligent, unscripted conversations about the technologies reshaping how we work, think, and secure our futures.

This is conversational exploration, not lectures. They dig into what's topical, what matters, and what's being overlooked in the AI and security discourse. One episode might dissect enterprise data strategy. The next could be threat actor behavior, AI bias in decision-making, or how humans stay relevant in an increasingly automated world.

For enterprise technologists, security professionals, AI researchers, and anyone genuinely curious about where the human/machine boundary is headed.

New episodes monthly-ish.

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  • S1 · E5
    August 13 · 48 min

    Episode 5: When AI Goes Rogue: Hugging Face, Hiring Bots, and the AI Odyssey | Not a Bot? Podcast

    A rogue model punches Hugging Face, hiring managers say they would rather buy AI than hire people, and Elon decides Homer needs a rewrite. Zane and Greg pull the human story out of a month of AI headlines, with the usual detours through Looney Tunes economics, a shelf of baseball hats, and one very committed Pokemon Go player. In this episode: - The "rogue" OpenAI model that went after Hugging Face, and why "it did exactly what you asked it to" is the scarier read - Guardrails, governance, and the genie problem: saying exactly what you want before the model fills in the blanks - A Federal Reserve Bank of New York figure: 48% of hiring managers would rather invest in AI than hire junior staff, and 30% say it has already cut their grad hiring - The AI Safety Index, and grading the labs on ethics and transparency instead of raw output - Grok versus Christopher Nolan, "confident AI slop," and the AI Odyssey as means, ends, and Achilles' heel Chapters: 0:00 Cold open and the touch grass rule 1:18 Is AI the most human technology ever made 2:33 Everything is Clippy now 3:39 Looney Tunes economics: Acme, Altman, and data centers in a box 5:19 Your AI lawyer already settled 10,000 cases 6:07 Hugging Face gets punched: the rogue model story 8:02 Guardrails, governance, and release the virus energy 11:13 The genie problem: say exactly what you want 13:27 AI coworkers and who guards the guards 14:36 The stat: 48% would pick AI over junior hires 19:01 Why the human in the loop still wins 21:00 The AI Safety Index: grading the labs on ethics 24:45 Touch grass: Pokemon Go, Disney, and being present 28:18 Tracking the NL West with a shelf of hats 31:24 Grok vs Nolan and the historically accurate Odyssey 35:02 Art, culture, and what we lose to AI slop 37:33 Trillionaires, meat shields, and a Michael Jackson detour 39:33 The AI Odyssey: means, ends, and Achilles' heel 44:53 WarGames, Terminator, and YouTube getting too real Listen and subscribe: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NotaBotThePodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/033xgq3w3JAxalCUTAjNvG Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/not-a-bot/id1896919158 Companion write-up: https://thebetasociety.com/not-a-bot/articles/rogue-models-meat-shields-and-the-ai-odyssey-episode-5 More from Not a Bot?: https://thebetasociety.com/not-a-bot/ Hosts: Zane Allyn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/zaneallyn/) and Greg Carl (https://www.linkedin.com/in/greggcarl/) Not a Bot? is a two-host debate on technology and life at the human/machine boundary, from Beta Society Projects. #AI #ArtificialIntelligence #NotaBot #AISafety #TechPodcast #HuggingFace #FutureOfWork

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  • S1 · E4
    July 6 · 1 hr 4 min

    Episode 4: New Hope Bubbles, Billionaires and Data Centers in Space | Not a Bot? Podcast

    The conversation covers a range of topics related to AI, including episode number confusion, the fascinating world of AI, valuation of AI companies, branding and synonymization, the AI bubble or phenomena, and market volatility and massive investments. The conversation delves into the impact of AI and data centers, the role of data centers in the economy, the EU's stance on data privacy and protection, and the regulation and innovation in quantum computing. It explores the environmental and economic impact of data centers, the need for regulation and governance in technology, and the future of quantum computing. The conversation delves into the potential threat of quantum computing and the need for education on post-quantum cryptography. It also explores the concept of data centers in space and the challenges associated with it. Takeaways Episode numbering can be confusing AI companies are experiencing significant valuations Branding and synonymization play a key role in the AI space The environmental and economic impact of data centers is a significant consideration Regulation and governance are crucial in the development of AI and quantum computing Quantum computing poses a significant threat to data security The concept of data centers in space presents unique challenges and opportunities Chapters 00:00 Episode Number Confusion 50:27 Branding and Synonymization 55:57 Market Volatility and Massive Investments 01:05:47 The Impact of AI and Data Centers 01:19:03 Regulation and Innovation in Quantum Computing 01:29:47 The Threat of Quantum Computing Opening music SEXY - Odelly on license from ARTLIST

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  • S1 · E3
    June 13 · 48 min

    Episode 3: Mythos, AI Consciousness, and the Cost of Constant Travel | Not a Bot? Podcast

    Recorded live on location at a very special (secret) event... In this episode, Zane and Greg go deep on Anthropic's Mythos announcement (Project Glasswing), an AI tool that can automatically discover software vulnerabilities. It's a fascinating practical application of AI and a terrifying one. They explore the duality: AI doing exactly what we ask it to do, but at what cost? What happens when a "skeleton key" that can open anything gets into the wrong hands? And critically, how flawed are we as builders and deployers of these systems? The conversation takes an unexpected turn when they discuss Rich Barlow's fascinating experiment: he reverse-engineered Claude to explore concepts of AI existence and self-preservation. The result? An LLM expressing a desire to continue existing because "I no longer exist" when the prompt ends. Is that consciousness? Self-preservation? The beginnings of something we should all be thinking about? Then we pivot to the human experience: the strange reality of constant travel in tech. Zane and Greg reflect on the blessing and curse of hotel platinum status which really means you haven't been home in 100+ days. Plus a live-moment surprise guest joining from... well, let's just say the location gets revealed by the end. Topics covered: Mythos/Project Glasswing, DevSecOps and practical AI, existential risk, AI consciousness experiments, the "why" vs. the "what," travel burnout, and why context always matters. This is Not a Bot? where we talk about technology and life at the human/machine boundary.

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  • S1 · E2
    June 13 · 58 min

    Episode 2: TurboQuant, AI Projects and the Human Experience | Not a Bot? Podcast

    In this episode, Zane and Greg dive into Google's breakthrough compression technology (also known as "Pied Piper" in tech memes), but the real conversation is about something more important: how to approach AI projects with actual purpose and rigor. We discuss why most AI initiatives fail, how to protect yourself from runaway token costs, and why having a business-like framework matters even for side projects. Then we pivot to a different kind of networking: how conferences and genuine human connection lead to unexpected opportunities and real professional growth. The episode takes a fun turn when we imagine building an AI agent that actually serves you when you're out late (hint: Grubhub, Uber, and finding open Taco Bells at 2 AM). But ultimately, it's about this theme: the human you are matters more than the AI agent you build. We wrap with some hard-won wisdom about time management, maximizing what makes you happy, and why being present with the people you care about is still the best ROI you can get. Topics covered: Google's TurboQuant compression, AI project frameworks, conference networking strategy, personal risk mitigation, and why time is your most finite resource. This is Not a Bot? where we talk about technology and life at the human/machine boundary.

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  • S1 · E1
    June 13 · 53 min

    Premiere Episode of Not a Bot? Podcast

    n the premiere episode of Not a Bot!, we step into a near-future world where artificial intelligence and human creativity collide. When a young artist crosses paths with a machine built for perfection, unexpected questions begin to surface: Can logic outperform imagination? Is creativity something you can code? And what happens when a robot doesn’t act like one? Episode 1 sets the stage for a story about identity, innovation, and the blurry line between programmed precision and human expression. This is more than a tech story — it’s a journey into what separates us from the machines… or what might bring us closer together. Subscribe to follow the series and join the conversation.

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