Pastor Matt sits down with author and cultural commentator Brett McCracken (The Gospel Coalition) to talk about his book Scrolling Ourselves to Death: Reclaiming Life in the Digital Age—and why this conversation is so urgent for Christians today.
Brett shares what inspired the book (building on Neil Postman’s Amusing Ourselves to Death) and unpacks how our phones and social media are shaping us in ways we often don’t notice: from algorithm-driven “echo chambers,” to distraction and digital addiction, to the loss of deep thinking in a world of constant “now this” fragments.
They also get practical—discussing digital audits, digital fasts, the power of embodied community, and how the local church can help us reclaim wisdom, presence, and real spiritual formation. Brett also challenges pastors and church leaders not to compete with the algorithm, but to lean into what makes the church truly different.
If you’ve felt distracted, overwhelmed, spiritually dulled, or just tired of the endless scroll, this conversation will encourage you with a better way forward.
