'Nocturne' Ep. 3 + 'Book of Mormon', 'Blue Ruin', and New York Docs
Victor and Darren discuss episode three of Apple TV+ thriller Nocturne, noting its popularity and strong ratings while debating the show’s stylish direction, confusing mysteries (The Sandman, symbols, missing Felicia, Jurick’s hidden stash), and frustrations with implausible plot mechanics; they agree the series works best with more Steven Graham and hope for clearer answers as the season continues. Before that, Darren recaps seeing The Book of Mormon with his wife and 16-year-old son on an Australian tour, praising its fast pace and boundary-pushing humor, and they compare it to other musicals and a failed Beetlejuice tour. They also talk Jeremy Saulnier’s Blue Ruin (and related films), a Shudder thriller The Cycle (recommended blind), John Wilson’s A History of Concrete and New York’s cultural shifts, plus quick reactions to Wild Horse 9 and Godzilla Minus Zero, and they consider sampling Apple’s heist series 12 12 12. Mailto:needssomeintroduction@gmail.com https://www.patreon.com/cw/NeedsSomeIntroduction 00:00 Podcast Intro and Nocturne Buzz 00:39 Book of Mormon Night Out 03:28 Touring Shows and Beetlejuice Flop 05:15 Blue Ruin Deep Dive 10:58 Saulnier Themes and Next Films 14:43 Shudder Surprise The Cycle 17:37 John Wilson Concrete and Old New York 26:01 Wild Horse 9 McDonagh Review 29:24 Godzilla Minus Zero Theater Blast 33:56 Finally Nocturne Episode 3 35:26 Missing Steven Graham 36:53 Supernatural Teases 37:20 Spoiler Talk Setup 37:56 Sandman Reveal Ending 38:52 Horror Cold Open Debate 41:39 Car Crash Mystery 43:04 Who Is Sandman 46:01 Carl Under Jurek Spell 48:51 Jurek Secret Build 51:09 Prison Setup Questions 52:49 Necklace Hack Nonsense 56:43 Episode Count Update 57:15 Apple Heist Pick 01:00:07 Final Thoughts Next Week Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.