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Music Not Diving with Scuba

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Paul Rose aka the musician, DJ, and label boss known as Scuba talks to people of significance from the world of electronic music about their experiences, observations, and attempts to cultivate a life for themselves in the murky and sometimes treacherous waters of the music industry.

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  • Wednesday · 38 min

    #52: Did the promise of AI-human hybrids drive the deals for Distrokid and Kobalt?

    On this episode... Why Distrokid selling to CVC will lead to more AI music. What Kobalt selling to Primary Wave means for the majors. Why the industry is counting on the hybrid musicians of the future. Were the Odyssey casting decisions part of the marketing campaign? And what Suki Waterhouse could learn from Boy George...! Read my 2000 word essay on the Burial / dubstep conundrum: https://www.patreon.com/scubaofficial/posts/eyes-back-puzzle-164702147 -- NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 02:59 Releases roundup 07:40 CVC buys Distrokid 15:27 Primary Wave buys Kobalt 21:10 AI copyright regulation 30:57 Suki Waterhouse and Boy George 35:50 Is Christopher Nolan a troll Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • July 15 · 31 min

    #51: Is the John Summit vs Pete Tong beef real?

    Even if it's not just a very effective bit of marketing, John Summit should definitely turn heel. On this episode we also discuss other notable examples of music industry creative stunts including Chuck D vs Flava Flav, Fifty Cent vs Kanye, Green Day vs The Network, and The KLF vs a million pounds. -- NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 02:41 John Summit vs Pete Tong 10:00 Chuck D vs Flava Flav 15:12 Green Day vs The Network 20:06 Fifty Cent vs Kanye West 23:05 Joaquin Phoenix 25:24 The KLF vs a million pounds 30:12 Conclusions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • July 1 · 53 min

    #50: Dance Music Deserves To Be Destroyed By AI

    No, really it does. In this episode we discuss a series of articles recommended by friend-of-the-show Darren Hemmings in this substack post. As the title suggests, we consider the ethics of AI music from two separate angles. And finally we look at the increasing dominance of standup comedy in the ecosystem of live events. I will never stand being accused of cynical ragebait! -- NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 03:58 Changes in the business of social media 08:08 dBridge Substack post 16:35 Is algorithmic influence any different to human influence? 19:44 Why musicians hate the press 24:52 Dance music deserves to be destroyed by AI 35:03 The success of standup comedy 41:37 Transgressive comedy vs music 51:48 Conclusions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • June 17 · 38 min

    #49: Thoughts on Trillionaires

    What does the new age of oligarchy mean for the future of art and the cultural sector? And what can we learn from previous era of extreme inequality? Weighty question on this episode of the podcast... -- NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 02:30 Elon, Tesla, and SpaceX 07:23 The Gilded Age 10:34 Andrew Carnegie 27:27 Busting the Trusts 31:24 Help needed now 36:36 How left wing are you? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • June 3 · 28 min

    #48: I was WRONG about music and corporate money

    NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Corporate money is the wellspring of great art... discuss! Also, the demise of Nina, Juno Download, and eventually Subvert. -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/scubaofficial/sets/not-a-diving-club You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 03:18 Money and art 11:04 Downloads are dead 23.33 Conclusions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • May 6 · 1 hr 34 min

    #47 Carl Craig: from Motown to Techno via The Electrifying Mojo

    NEW MERCH STORE: Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Carl Craig is a producer, DJ, and label owner from Detroit. A feature-length documentary, Desire: The Carl Craig Story, is available to stream now. Listen to the reissue of 'Meditations' LP. We discuss the history of Detroit music, the development of techno, the influence of other areas of popular culture on dance music, and the breadth of his musical experiences from playing guitar in bands as a teenager to being a current artist-in-residence at Michigan State University. This is a conversation with a true legend who does not disappoint! -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1 You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 02:00 The documentary 07:15 Judging artists' work 14:08 Jungle and the UK rave scene 20:29 Breakthrough and early material 25:20 Popular culture and dance music 31:55 Collaboration and solo work 35:48 Bring back guitars 41:55 The Electrifying Mojo 54:46 Techno and Motown 01:01:58 Frankfurt vs Berlin 01:08:50 Black music and diversity 01:19:47 Artist in residence at MSUFCU Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • April 22 · 33 min

    #46 The truth about Ticketmaster, and why Chaotic Good's unscrupulous marketing campaigns are actually good for music

    MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- The bulk of this episode is a deep dive on the Live Nation / Ticketmaster situation. We look at the system of practices that has developed since the merger in 2010, the recent ruling, and the possible future arrangements in a world where the ruling (currently subject to appeal) is put into practice. But separately, we also discuss why the Chaotic Good marketing approach is actually a good thing for music...! -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1 You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Support the podcast 03:00 Is Chaotic Good actually good? 07:28 Ticketing 31:41 Closing Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • April 1 · 35 min

    #45 AI sceptics and the boomers who want to save independent music

    MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- This week on Music Not Diving we decouple from the Youtube feed and get into the ongoing debate around AI. Sceptics like Ed Zitron have come to prominence with their doubts about the viability of business models of the big AI firms, but in music Suno is busily destroying artistry and the effect of the general LLMs has upended other bits of the industry too. So what does this all mean? And we also learn about the ceiling of the Rolls Royce Phantom and what that might mean for vintage mix consoles. Bob Lefsetz piece on the Indie Alliance: lefsetz.com/wordpress/2026/03/31/the-indie-alliance/ Shawn's referenced piece: firstfloor.substack.com/p/the-majors-are-ushering-in-an-era Ted Gioia referenced piece: www.honest-broker.com/p/four-steps-to-hell -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1 You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 02:00 Future of the pod 06:50 The Indie Alliance 12:30 Major labels and AI 15:00 AI scepticism 20:17 New Suno model 29:20 Rolls Royce and music Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • March 18 · 33 min

    #44 Watches and musical wonders: the Rolex-ification of music

    MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- What does the music industry have in common with Swiss watches? Quite a lot, as we discover on this solo episode of the podcast... The latest Morgan Stanley Swiss watch industry report can be viewed here. -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1 You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 05:52 The current landscape 10:08 Volume vs luxury 14.07 The key players 19.11 How the successful acts do it 24.32 Can listeners pick up the slack? 27.10 The real problem 30.20 Conclusions Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • March 11 · 51 min

    #43 Techno in India Part II: FILM on the challenges of making music in India

    MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India. This is part II... Sanil Sudan, aka FILM, is one of the best electronic producers to come out of India. Based in New Delhi, he has been involved in all aspects of the scene over the past decade and more: DJing, promoting parties, running one of India’s first booking agencies (UnMute), as well as making beats as FILM and other aliases including the techno-focused Tyrell Dub Corp. ' We discuss his production process, differing approaches to studio techniques including classic synths and sampling, hidden resources to be found on Youtube, the challenges facing Indian producers, the development of a distinctive Indian sound, as well as his time spent in Berlin as part of the Border Movement Residency (BMR) program. This is a great conversation with a big talent operating in a difficult environment. Get involved! Check out El Sid mixes on Soundcloud. -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1 You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 03:10 FILM 06:11 From pro-gamer to promoter 08:30 The "No more parties in Delhi" experiment 11:45 Learning Music Theory mid-Career 15:45 AI Slop and the value of human emotion 17:54 The cultural necessity of sampling 22:00 Studio talk 27:00 The Berlin border movement residency 32:30 Post-COVID clubbing & Spotify fatigue 37:30 The corporatisation of Boiler Room 41:45 Forging an authentic Indian sound 49:10 The global hustle for Indian DJs Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • March 4 · 56 min

    #42 Techno in India Part I: Kohra on building a scene from the ground up

    MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Music Not Diving touched down in Bengaluru, aka Bangalore, for the opening night of DJ El Sid's Ends & Means party, and also to record podcasts at the Bangalore International Centre with two of the most important people in the contemporary techno scene in India. Kohra is a key figure in the modern iteration of techno in India. His label, Qilla Records, has been one of the most important outposts for Indian producers since 2011. And as a DJ, he has established himself as a similarly important voice across clubs and festivals both in India and on the global circuit. He's also a very interesting guy with a lot to say on the state of the scene right now, and also the history. We discuss the scene in India compared to Europe and the US, the development of techno culture in India, the advance of western dance music brands into Asia, today's challenges in running labels, and his history in different areas of music. This conversation is a great insight into the workings of the scene in India... get involved! Part II will air next week. -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14-1 You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 02:45 Kohra 07:30 Local scenes 14:00 Western club brands in India 21:30 Politics and boycott culture 27:50 Kohra's journey into music 33:35 Production 42:08 Spending time in Melbourne 44:40 Jalebee Cartel 47:10 Running Qilla Records 53:30 Future of the scene in India Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 18 · 1 hr 30 min

    #41 Frank Wiedemann: Âme Live and the new wave of Berlin clubbing

    MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- Listen to the Not A Diving Club radio show: https://soundcloud.com/swufm/scuba-not-a-diving-club-14 You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ Frank Wiedemann is one half of legendary German house duo Âme (he does the live shows and can probably be described as the lead producer). He's also a key figure in the Innervisions label, the Dixon/Âme axis, and also a member of other groups include Howling. We discuss the new wave of electronic music nightlife in Berlin, the responsibilities of established acts to the wider scene, his processes in making music, and performance both as Âme and also in improvisational settings such as previous pod guest Sebastian Mullaert's Circle Of Live. This is a good one, get involved! -- If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 03:50 Berlin nightlife isn't dead 07:56 Events vs. clubbing 11:01 Should bigger artists give back? 14:18 The paradox of playing live 22:22 The new Ame album 31:30 Spotify is social media 38:14 From Jazz clubs to Robert Johnson 49:00 Innervisions at the Royal Albert Hall 55:49 The art of the 8-hour jam 01:04:52 Teaching and retreats Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 11 · 1 hr 17 min

    #40 Slipmatt: the rave revolution, hardcore vs jungle, and making an all-time classic

    MERCH DROP! Support the podcast with a purchase from our new line of awesome merch. Tees, hoodies, water bottles... etc! Cheap worldwide shipping! Visit the store here: hotflushrecordings.com/shop -- You can now discuss the show on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/MusicNotDiving/ Slipmatt is one of the most important DJs in the history of dance music. From his first major gig at Raindance in 1989, he came to be known as the Godfather Of Hardcore, becoming synonymous with the genre that typified the UK rave sound in the early 90s. His 'SL2' project, with DJ Lime, yield two top-ten hits including the genre-defining 'On A Ragga Tip' that reached number 2 in the UK singes chart in May 1992. He was also instrumental in emergence Jungle from the Hardcore scene, and produced classics including 'Hear Me' which typify the linearity between the two genres. We discuss the pre-acid house period, the game-changing nature of the rave explosion both in music and society, and we get into his personal journey from bedroom producer to Top Of The Pops. This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK dance music, get involved! -- If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist 00:00 Intro 02:00 Episode start 04:55 What “Old School” really means 06:25 The split between Hardcore & Jungle 11:30 Bridging the divide 13:10 Bedroom producer beginnings 17:20 The lost art of studio mentorship 18:40 DJ Culture & skill obsession 24:15 First raves & Acid House reality 26:15 Birth of Raindance 27:40 Illegal → Legal Raves 29:10 Becoming a National DJ 30:40 Independence and management 32:10 The end of Illegal raving 33:10 Rave culture as a social & political movement 35:30 Media & moral panic 37:30 Policing, laws & the Criminal Justice Act Era 41:30 Legacy of early Rave culture 43:30 Personal reflections & looking back 47:00 Clearing samples 50:24 Top of the Pops and meeting Kylie 56:27 The Prodigy 59:31 Rage club and Jungle Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • February 4 · 1 hr 21 min

    #39 Recondite: the art and culture of dance music, and can AI produce groundbreaking music?

    Recondite is one of our favourite guests and here we welcome him for his third appearance on the podcast. We discuss his recent performances at arguably the world's hottest music venue - the Sphere in Las Vegas, and also the Pyramids of Giza in Egypt. And we get the inside story on what's going on in melodic techno, an area of dance music that has attracted some of the biggest audiences while being largely ignored by the press. The issue of dance music and popular culture as art is also discussed in detail, as well as the continuing developments in AI in music - both in ethical terms and in the practice of making music. This is a great conversation, get involved! -- If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • January 28 · 20 min

    #38 Are musicians cheating with AI? And is the DJ/Producer model broken?

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing! -- Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving Following on from the 'End Of Recorded Music?' episode, this week we take a look at some of the surrounding issues. This is the first time I've done a solo episode speaking to camera and there are some inconsistencies which show up in the audio... check out the video version of this episode on YouTube (or if you're on Spotify then it'll be available here too). -- If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • January 21 · 1 hr 12 min

    #037 Sister Bliss: Faithless after Maxi, raving in the 90s, and the power of a global hit

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing! -- Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving Sister Bliss is the musical driving force behind one of the biggest dance acts of all time - Faithless. We discuss her early period as a DJ, linking up with Rollo and launching Cheeky Records from home, meeting the late, great Maxi Jazz and forming Faithless. And of course we get into the hits and the differing process of music making over the years. This is a great conversation with a true legend of UK music! 00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation 03:00 Sister Bliss 05:10 Releasing music now vs then 07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea 09:15 Invisible gatekeepers 10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom 12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life 23:30 Early musical influences 29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything 31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights 33:00 Meeting Maxi 36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap 41:10 Cheeky Records 48:00 Making the first album 55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload 01:00:40 The future of creativity 01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle -- If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Chapters: 00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation 03:00 Sister Bliss 05:10 Releasing music now vs then 07:05 Champion sound & the double-album idea 09:15 Invisible gatekeepers 10:35 Forever Free, Maxi & the meaning of freedom 12:10 Vinyl culture & record-shop life 23:30 Early musical influences 29:45 The cassette demo that changed everything 31:10 Camden studios, sushi & late nights 33:00 Meeting Maxi 36:40 DJing, dropping out & taking the leap 41:10 Cheeky Records 48:00 Making the first album 55:30 Making music now: tools, plugins & overload 01:00:40 The future of creativity 01:02:45 Memory, archives & coming full circle Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • January 14 · 1 hr 18 min

    #036 Johnno Burgess: Bugged Out founder on how to run a rave brand for 30 years

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing! -- Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving Bugged Out is one of the UK's best-loved and most enduring club brands. From humble beginnings in Manchester, through Sankeys, Cream in Liverpool, fabric and The End in London, right the way through to their enormous 30th birthday at the 15k capacity Drumsheds in London, this is a promotion that has consistently done things right in terms of the music and the vibe. Johnno Burgess is one of the co-founders, and also the former editor of the legendary Jockey Slut magazine which originally launched the night that became Bugged Out. We discuss the history of the event with its many successes and occasional failures, the changing landscape over the last 30 years, how they booked Daft Punk for free, and we also get into the golden era of the dance press and how it looks in the current era. This is a great conversation with a relatively unsung hero of UK dance culture. Get involved! Grab the new Bugged Out book here -- If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Chapters: 00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation 02:13 Episode start 02:50 Bugged Out at 30 04:54 Changing fashion on the floor 07:28 The golden age of dance music journalism 12:45 Influencers are the new fanzines 18:08 The birth of Jockey Slut 24:00 From magazine to club night 27:30 The Manchester club scene 30:49 Closure of clubs and pop-up spaces 36:10 Trust and curation 44:12 Nation, Cream and Liverpool 47:20 First Bugged Out Weekender 52:30 Festival curation 55:00 Moving away from Liverpool 59:05 The End - 8 defining years 01:02:00 When clubs started disappearing 01:03:30 Drumsheds, Printworks and mega-rooms 01:05:50 The role of private equity 01:13:00 Highs and lows Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • January 8 · 1 hr 23 min

    #035 Jagz Kooner: Weatherall, Sabres Of Paradise, and quitting while you're ahead

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing! -- Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving The Sabres Of Paradise were formed in 1992 by Andrew Weatherall, Gary Burns, and our guest on today's episode Jagz Kooner. They burned brightly but briefly, initially disbanding in 1995, but have now reformed (without the late Weatherall) for what Jagz says will be a limited time. We discuss the story of the Sabres, but also Jagz' wider career which covers a lot of ground as a remixer and producer. And we also get into his thoughts on today's scene, and the changes in music making he's witnessed in four decades making tunes. This is a good one! -- If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Chapters: 00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation 02:13 Episode start 02:44 Sabres reunion 08:45 Playing Sydney Opera House 11:38 From seated silence to dancing chaos 13:05 This song changed lives 15:58 Post-Sabres life 17:06 Early DJ roots 21:36 Machines over bands 25:45 A very Jagz birthday 29:24 This machine will change the world 36:02 The bootleg that changed everything 37:30 Andrew Weatherall 45:00 Touring and burnout 47:30 After the split 50:00 Producing for others 59:30 Legacy and influence 01:03:00 The meaning of the reunion 01:07:00 Honouring Andrew Weatherall 01:11:00 Looking forward 01:15:00 Advice for young producers Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

  • January 5 · 52 min

    The unfolding AI debate: the End Of Recorded Music?

    Music Not Diving is supported by Acid Nation (formerly AC55ID)... head over to www.acidnation.com to check out the fastest growing electronic music marketplace, a central hub for music discovery, streaming and purchasing! -- Watch the video episodes of Music Not Diving over at youtube.com/@WeNotDiving This is a re-up of a podcast we released in mid-2023 which sought to set the table for what was then the coming debate on AI in music and the wider socio-economic world. It's worth returning to because it covers the big issues that I anticipate will be covered on the podcast this coming year, and takes a look at some of the initial intuitions coming into this highly weird period of human history. This stuff isn't going anywhere, and it poses serious questions for what the music industry is for. What are musicians doing making music in this environment? What's the purpose of music in of itself? These are questions I have been asking myself over the last few weeks, and there are no easy answers... -- If you're into what we're doing here on the pod then you can support the show on Patreon! There are two tiers - "Solidarity" for $4 a month, which features the show without ads, regular bonus podcasts, and extra content. And "Musicality" which for a mere $10 a month gets you all the music we release on Hotflush and affiliate labels AND other music too, some of which never comes out anywhere else. You can also make a one-off donation to the podcast using a card, with Paypal, or your Ethereum wallet! Head over to scubaofficial.io/support. Plus there's also a private area for Patreon supporters in the Hotflush Discord Server... but anyone can join the conversation in the public channels. Listen to the music discussed on the show via the Music Not Diving Podcast Spotify playlist Chapters: 00:00 Brought to you by Acid Nation 02:30 AI in music and art 12:20 Possible developments 17:13 Ethics in art 22:21 Music's cultural decline 27:06 The capitalist bogeyman 29:35 Identity vs music 43:21 Is all this just moaning? Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.