#11Jan 27, 2025 · 3 hr 19 min
Chris Canal, co-founder of EquiStamp, joins muckrAIkers as our first ever podcast guest! In this ~3.5 hour interview, we discuss intelligence vs. competencies, the importance of test-time compute, moving goalposts, the orthogonality thesis, and much more.
A seasoned software developer, Chris started EquiStamp as a way to improve our current understanding of model failure modes and capabilities in late 2023. Now a key contractor for METR, EquiStamp evaluates the next generation of LLMs from frontier model developers like OpenAI and Anthropic.
EquiStamp is hiring, so if you're a software developer interested in a fully remote opportunity with flexible working hours, join the EquiStamp Discord server and message Chris directly; oh, and let him know muckrAIkers sent you!
(00:00) - Recording date
(00:05) - Intro
(00:29) - Hot off the press
(02:17) - Introducing Chris Canal
(19:12) - World/risk models
(35:21) - Competencies + decision making power
(42:09) - Breaking models down
(01:05:06) - Timelines, test time compute
(01:19:17) - Moving goalposts
(01:26:34) - Risk management pre-AGI
(01:46:32) - Happy endings
(01:55:50) - Causal chains
(02:04:49) - Appetite for democracy
(02:20:06) - Tech-frame based fallacies
(02:39:56) - Bringing back real capitalism
(02:45:23) - Orthogonality Thesis
(03:04:31) - Why we do this
(03:15:36) - Equistamp!
Links
EquiStamp
Chris's Twitter
METR Paper - RE-Bench: Evaluating frontier AI R&D capabilities of language model agents against human experts
All Trades article - Learning from History: Preventing AGI Existential Risks through Policy by Chris Canal
Better Systems article - The Omega Protocol: Another Manhattan Project
Superintelligence & Commentary
Wikipedia article - Superintelligence: Paths, Dangers, Strategies by Nick Bostrom
Reflective Altruism article - Against the singularity hypothesis (Part 5: Bostrom on the singularity)
Into AI Safety Interview - Scaling Democracy w/ Dr. Igor Krawczuk
Referenced Sources
Book - Man-made Catastrophes and Risk Information Concealment: Case Studies of Major Disasters and Human Fallibility
Artificial Intelligence Paper - Reward is Enough
Wikipedia article - Capital and Ideology by Thomas Piketty
Wikipedia article - Pantheon
LeCun on AGI
"Won't Happen" - Time article - Meta’s AI Chief Yann LeCun on AGI, Open-Source, and AI Risk
"But if it does, it'll be my research agenda latent state models, which I happen to research" - Meta Platforms Blogpost - I-JEPA: The first AI model based on Yann LeCun’s vision for more human-like AI
Other Sources
Stanford CS Senior Project - Timing Attacks on Prompt Caching in Language Model APIs
TechCrunch article - AI researcher François Chollet founds a new AI lab focused on AGI
White House Fact Sheet - Ensuring U.S. Security and Economic Strength in the Age of Artificial Intelligence
New York Post article - Bay Area lawyer drops Meta as client over CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s ‘toxic masculinity and Neo-Nazi madness’
OpenEdition Academic Review of Thomas Piketty
Neural Processing Letters Paper - A Survey of Encoding Techniques for Signal Processing in Spiking Neural Networks
BFI Working Paper - Do Financial Concerns Make Workers Less Productive?
No Mercy/No Malice article - How to Survive the Next Four Years by Scott Galloway