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Money Stuff: The Podcast

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The audio companion to Bloomberg Opinion’s beloved Money Stuff column hosted by its author Matt Levine, “whose deadpan style mixes technical elucidation and wit” (NY Times). Once a week, Matt and his friend, Bloomberg News reporter and TV host Katie Greifeld, talk about Wall Street, finance and…other stuff. New episodes every Friday.

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Friday · 41 min
Reintegration With the Default World
Matt and guest host Mary Childs discuss Baby Stuff: The Podcast, 351 exchange ETFs, substance over form, agentic bank runs, doing things for points, getting the Burn you need, seizing control of the company Slack, cotton market manipulation, paperwork and potential securities-fraud liability for destroying humanity. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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September 25 · 40 min
Re-run: Midnight Madness: Ryan Patch and Jon Seale
Ahead of Midnight Madness 2026, we revisit our May 2025 episode, when Katie and Matt spoke with Ryan Patch and Jon Seale of Great Gotham Challenge about building puzzle hunts for the hedge fund manager who has everything. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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September 18 · 38 min
Trying to Save the World Is No Excuse
Matt and guest co-host Silvia Killingsworth discuss late-summer nostalgia, Susquehanna's 100 Johns Doe, hedging options market making, nervously walking back and forth at the frontier, the economic and/or human extinction benefits of slowing AI training, writing about AI vs. AI writing, psychological liquidity mismatches and putting pensions back into 401(k)s. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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September 11 · 40 min
What's the Concern?
Matt and guest host Max Abelson discuss money and power, Kawhi Leonard, independent investigations, the DAT trade, why anyone talks to us, the aesthetic appreciation of finance, Robinhood vs. AMC, meme-stock bazaars, Cede & Co., stock ledgers on the blockchain, Grayson Moorhead Securities, heists of bearer securities, the Apollo premium, geniality league tables and contextually appropriate “oohs.” See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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September 4 · 37 min
Learn More Gooder
Matt and guest host Mary Childs discuss CDS gossip, suboptimal mortgage refinancing, cheap options, shopping for savings accounts, billing by the hour, AI and the apprenticeship model, second-price auctions, chandelier bidding, the IVV to VOO pipeline, rich person trades vs. hedge fund trades and how much we all miss Katie. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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August 14 · 49 min
Re-Run: Boaz Weinstein
Matt and Katie talked in March to Boaz Weinstein of Saba Capital Management about his tenders for OBDC II and SREIT, semi-liquid fund liquidity, reflexivity, the lure of permanent capital, private credit NAVs, public vs. private BDC discounts, preserving brand value, volatility laundering, howling at the moon, bowling and, why not, DATs. You can also watch this episode on YouTube. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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July 31 · 26 min
No Kiddie Pool
Matt and guest co-host Silvia Killingsworth discuss the Situational Awareness situation, record dates, CVRs, and sourcing weird volatility risk from retail customers to sell to hedge funds. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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July 24 · 29 min
Worried Noises
Katie and Matt discuss 351 exchanges, the Gabe Plotkin ETF, the two laws of tax, tax code is not quite law, Gary Gensler’s cell phone, crypto vs. the SEC, the Truth API, nuclear fusion, sports indexes and ETFs of 351 ETFs of ETFs. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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July 17 · 30 min
Animal Communicator
Katie and Matt discuss Katie’s animals’ feelings, sports gambling ETFs, Matt’s SEC comment, active ETF management, South Korean regulatory regrets, perfect distilled margin debt, Strategy’s software business and SpaceX’s stock price. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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July 10 · 30 min
Paid in Eggs
Katie and Matt discuss Katie's baby shower, No Elon ETFs, index preferences, ETFs as performance art, index rebalancing, liquidity provision, averaging into the index, lockup supply vs. index demand, egg manipulation, bird flu and everything-is-securities-fraud lawsuits. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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July 2 · 30 min
100 John Does
Katie and Matt discuss sports, the weather, lobster cake, getting picked off by insider traders, the retail options casino, limiting sharp bettors, sports gambling ETFs, weird ETFs generally, bad vibes at Strategy, Bitcoin leverage and ChatGPT security design. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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June 26 · 31 min
One Big Blob of Elon
Katie and Matt discuss summer vacation, SpaceX/Tesla, Elon Musk re-conglomeration, MacroHard, Meta prediction markets, human social behavior, Farmville, AI engagement, base revealed preferences, private credit redemptions, monthly liquidity and BDC arbitrage. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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June 19 · 30 min
Book of Souls
Katie and Matt discuss sports, mostly not SpaceX, alien capital markets, blinking, quality of earnings, hedge fund heroes, keeping a stegosaurus in your living room, the Book of Souls, capacity constraints, ruthless self-examination, market structure sickos, the trade-through rule, speed bumps and tokenization. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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June 12 · 31 min
Strongly Worded Letters
Katie and Matt discuss the pricing of the SpaceX IPO, cash-settled derivatives gambling, S&P’s no-fast-tracking decision, index divergence, active-management benchmarking, SpaceX ESG, federal sports gambling regulation, Matt’s future coaching Little League, market integrity, brawls, everything is an assassination market, Boaz Weinstein’s day in the Supreme Court and not the trade-through rule. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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June 5 · 27 min
Champagne and Caviar
Katie and Matt discuss the Knicks, the Jeffrey, hedging sports bets with sports bets, Google selling some stock, net equity issuance, taxes on stock vesting, Andrew Left, how long you have to be short, the decline of activist short selling and not saying dumb stuff in email. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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May 29 · 35 min
Shameful Secret Heart
Katie and Matt discuss the SpaceX IPO, enterprise AI, Mars colonies, the Elon Musk premium, consternation about indexes, a no-Elon index, closet indexing, price-insensitive IPO demand, unconstrained Elon Musk, Robinhood AI agents, the universal wrapper for trade ideas, invisible transaction costs, the Drug Olympics, 10% of Fernando Tatis Jr., a venture portfolio of minor leaguers, hedging career risk and hitting two grand slams in the same inning. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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May 15 · 30 min
Frisky Dentists
Katie and Matt discuss GameStop buying (?) eBay, authorized shares, socks, activism, negging, CDOs, CLOs, structured finance innovations, trading private credit, daily pricing, bad ways to own Anthropic stock, suing dentists and human assembly lines. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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May 8 · 25 min
Timeless Wisdom: A Mailbag Episode
Katie and Matt discuss financial advisers, a little scooch of private credit, finance book recommendations, call options on time, expected returns, seating charts, rain creating liquidity, E and S vs. G, the church of capital allocation, the market for corporate control and corporate vs. human life cycles. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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May 1 · 30 min
Bag of Snakes
Katie and Matt discuss the downsides of home ownership, hedge fund managers who had a somewhat disappointing week, Pershing Square USA, the physics of closed-end funds, publicly listed hedge fund firms, the pod shop business, the psychology of investors in non-traded BDCs, the Avis short squeeze, Section 16 short-swing profits and earnings call body language. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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April 24 · 26 min
Economic Animals
Katie and Matt discuss bringing children to work, the weather in one corner of Charles de Gaulle airport, an infinite surface for market manipulation, bespoke parametric insurance, the Avis Budget short squeeze (maybe), the meme-stock playbook, SpaceX buying Cursor (maybe), SpaceX buying Tesla (maybe???), dual-class stock, robot armies annihilating each other off the shoulder of Orion, the word “gazumping” and the hedge fund hiring market. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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