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Messy Thoughts

BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins

Messy Thoughts is a no-holds-barred talk show where Austin-based friends BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins catch up weekly to get into the mess—from pop culture deep dives to personal rabbit holes. Each episode explores life, sex, identity, and everything in between through a queer lens, as the duo trade off asking each other a mix of intrusive thoughts and premeditated questions that range from hilarious to heartfelt. Whether it’s unpacking bad behavior or dissecting viral drama, BJ and LeBron keep it honest, unpredictable, and unapologetically messy.

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S2 · E41
Wednesday · 46 min
"We Were NOT Prepared for These Questions" - Messy Thoughts 41
MESSY THOUGHTS 41. This week BJ and LeBron are going full Messy Bowl — no regular agenda, just topics pulled straight from the bowl and a 10-minute clock. What could go wrong? Everything. In the best way. They kick things off venting about the absolute disrespect of apartment AC going out in the middle of summer, the art of negotiating thermostat settings with your parents, and why car maintenance should be illegal. BJ is 2,000 miles overdue for an oil change and has zero shame. Then the bowl takes over: Tequila vs. Vodka — BJ and LeBron debate which one deserves to be erased from existence forever. Spoiler: neither of them is going quietly. Wedding crashing, tiramisu cake, and Kyle at the Iron Bear all make appearances. Should there be a partner rating app? — Turns out, it already exists. And LeBron has a profile. With glowing reviews. BJ reads one live on air. This is journalism. Nostalgia is killing new art — Are millennials so obsessed with reboots and sequels that we've forgotten how to make something original? Toy Story 5, Coming to America 2, Avatar, The Incredibles... BJ and LeBron call it all out. Euphoria Season 3 — LeBron watched it. BJ didn't. That did not stop the conversation. Full spoilers, full opinions, full devastation. They break down what went wrong, what they wish had happened, and why they both wish they'd left it at Season 2. Drop your Messy Bowl topics in our comments or link in bio — your question might get pulled next time. 🎙️ New episodes every week. Like, subscribe, and share so we can keep the thoughts messy. 📲 Follow us: TikTok | Instagram | YouTube → @messythoughts 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #PopCulture #PodcastLife #TalkShow #AustinPodcast #BlackPodcast #GayPodcast #BlackAndGay
S2 · E40
August 26 · 46 min
"Can You Be In a Relationship Without Losing Yourself?" - Messy Thoughts 40
MESSY THOUGHTS 40. BJ and LeBron are NOT holding back. This week's episode kicks off with a genuinely philosophical detour — what if everyone you've ever met is just you in a different timeline? From there it's full send into: would you ever shapeshift into another race or body if you could (Mystique discourse is real), what it means to actually date as yourself instead of your PR rep, and the Whoopi Goldberg book that honestly snatched a wig. Oh, and friendships. The real kind. The ones where you can call out of nowhere and time just resets. The ones where someone hurt your feelings and you actually said something about it. The ones that get smaller as you get older — and why that's not always a bad thing. Plus: BJ's bold non-negotiables in both romance and friendship (yes, one of them involves eating something), LeBron's reincarnation preferences laid bare, and the very honest question of what are you even bringing to the table? Drop your five things you look for in a relationship in the comments — we actually want to know. 👇 New episodes of Messy Thoughts every week. Subscribe and come be messy with us. 🌐 messythoughts.com 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com 📲 @messythoughts on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube #MessyThoughts #GayPodcast #RelationshipAdvice #LGBTQ #BlackPodcast #PopCulture #FriendshipGoals
S2 · E39
August 19 · 48 min
"The Anatomy of a Hater" - Messy Thoughts 39
MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 39. What does it actually mean to be a hater — and is it always a bad thing? BJ and LeBron crack open some Trip melon cucumber drinks and get into it. They break down the real definition of a hater, why they think hating is honestly kind of built into us, and where the line is between healthy jealousy and straight-up toxic behavior. They call out the covert haters in your friend group, the ones sliding into your Instagram stories every day but never saying a word to your face. Then they take it to celebrity land — breaking down La Roche's judging style on Project Runway, Tamar Braxton's messy era, and a full Nicki Minaj deep dive on how insecurity can turn a legend into a hater. LeBron runs BJ through a round of "Friend or Foe" — three real-life scenarios to figure out if your people are actually your people. And the Messy Bowl makes its return with a spicy first-date question that they immediately decide deserves its own whole episode. Pull up. 🔗 Find us everywhere: messythoughts.com 📧 Submit to the Messy Bowl: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 📲 @messythoughts on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube Subscribe so you never miss an episode. #messythoughts #messythoughtspod #haters #nikciminaj #projectrunway #laroach #tamarbraxton #friendorfoe #blackpodcast #culturepodcast #gayblackmen #popculture #realitytvtea #dramawithaside #queerpodcast
S2 · E38
August 12 · 46 min
"Are The Gays Loving Themselves?" - Messy Thoughts 38
MESSY THOUGHTS 38. We're back. And we have thoughts. BJ and LeBron return from their mid-season break with a packed episode — movie quote challenges, Europe recaps, a run-in with a rude flight attendant, and a deep dive into whether the gay community actually practices what it preaches about love and self-acceptance. BJ just got back from Santorini, Greece (with a layover detour through Madrid that included a very... educational bathhouse visit), and LeBron filled his break with work, an Oura Ring, and a new theory about complimenting strangers on the street. It's a lot. We get into all of it. Then things get real. The guys ask a question nobody wants to answer honestly: do gay men actually celebrate each other — or are we too busy calculating each other's value the second someone walks through the door? From body politics to ageism, lookism, and exclusive party flyers, BJ and LeBron go there without apology. To close it out, the Messy Bowl makes its debut — and the first question pulled is spicy enough: do you actually have to be liked by your boyfriend's friends? Drop your answer in the comments. And if you've got a question for the Messy Bowl, send it our way. Follow Messy Thoughts: 🎙️ messythoughts.com 📸 Instagram: @messythoughtspod 🎵 TikTok: @messythoughtspod ▶️ YouTube: Messy Thoughts 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #GayCommunity #LGBTQPodcast #QueerPodcast #GayPodcast #GayMen #PodcastForBlackGayMen #PopCulture #PrideTalk #ATXPodcast
S2 · E37
July 15 · 58 min
"I Used to Dance!! (with Colton Dowling)" - Messy Thoughts 37
MESSY THOUGHTS 37. Stand-up comedian, writer, and actor Colton Dowling (Some of This Is Bad) pulls up to the Messy Thoughts studio — and within about ninety seconds he's already announced he's uncomfortable and asked if this is "a card." BJ and LeBron take that as a personal challenge, and what follows is one of the most gloriously derailed hours we've recorded. We open on BBL recovery times and the horror of everything going straight to your ass, before Colton gets into whether you're legally allowed to fire your therapist (and whether the problem is the therapist or… you). BJ steers us into the naked power-walker of downtown Austin, LeBron fights for the sanctity of clapping at the end of a movie, and somewhere in there Colton reveals the PF Chang's interview that quietly ended his modeling career. The back half goes fully off the rails: a movie tangent where the three of us basically just name films we half-remember and describe the plots wrong, a Players Club recap that raises more questions than it answers, a heated referendum on whether LA is fake, and the sacred bond between a mom and her lipstick mirror-notes. Colton also opens up about the Paris he'd blocked out for twelve years and why, these days, he "doesn't dance anymore." It gets real, it gets stupid, it gets H-E-B-reverent. BJ, LeBron, and Colton close it out with plans to flee to Spain and one lingering question about Katy Perry in space. The thoughts are messy. The bottoms are not. 🎙️ Special guest: Colton Dowling ▶️ Podcast: Some of This Is Bad 📸 IG: @coltondowling // @someofthisisbad ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🔔 New episodes of Messy Thoughts with BJ & LeBron — subscribe & hit the bell 🎧 Also on Apple Podcasts & Spotify 📱 Follow for clips & chaos ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ #MessyThoughts #ColtonDowling #SomeOfThisIsBad #ComedyPodcast #QueerPodcast
S2 · E36
July 8 · 54 min
"The Bald & The Beautiful (Dillion's Back!)" - Messy Thoughts 36
MESSY THOUGHTS 36. Dillion Kordell is BACK — bald, 30, and cussing out his comment section. 💅🏾 The girls are messy this week. Returning guest and Dillion Kordell Show host Dillion Kordell pulls up to break down his new bald-and-bold era, the art of arguing with racists in your comments, and why the internet is way more fun in your head than it actually is. BJ and LeBron get into everything from friend-group breakups and "love offline" to the manosphere, the "gayosphere," Pride history, and being unapologetically Black in white gay spaces. It gets real, it gets read-you-for-filth funny, and yes — BJ comes out as pansexual live on the mic (shout out to trigonometry). In this episode: – Dillion's bald glow-up and turning 30 – Clapping back at hateful comments (and living for the engagement) – The "tops in air quotes" debate + BJ's "power verse" declaration – Bringing a whole duffel bag to the club, and the great "Sigourney Weaver vs. Harriet Tubman" mix-up – Why you should NEVER date inside your friend group (a balcony story) – Monét exchange & Andy, canceled weddings, and the case for "love offline" – Soft launches, not posting your partner, and people who are always watching – Millennials vs. Gen Z, weaponized social media, and the Apple Music/Spotify wars – The manosphere, the "gayosphere," and hyper-masculinity in queer spaces – Pride Month, LGBTQ+ history, and why the L comes first – Race, segregated gay parties, and the pitch for "LeBron Undercover" – Frolic Weekend, being around your people, and Lift Every Voice – Whitney, Clive Davis, and why nobody at this table is getting in a helicopter New episodes every week. This is Messy Thoughts — where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are not. 🧼 Guest: Dillion Kordell — The Dillion Kordell Show ▶️ [@dillionkordellshow] Follow Messy Thoughts 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 messythoughtspod@gmail.com Subscribe + turn on notifications so you never miss a mess. ⚠️ Mature content: explicit language + adult themes. 18+. #MessyThoughts #BlackGayPodcast #QueerPodcast #LGBTQPodcast #austinpodcast
S2 · E35
June 24 · 44 min
"Diamonds Are Forever with Diamond Dior Davenport" - Messy Thoughts 35
MESSY THOUGHTS 35. Austin drag icon Diamond Dior Davenport joins BJ and LeBron for one of the most personal, chaotic, and genuinely moving episodes yet. Diamond breaks down the full behind-the-scenes chaos of the Majestic Ball — her 35-minute Beyoncé Homecoming tribute set — from the costume that didn't fit five days before showtime to rehearsing stage blocking in the street with duct tape. She also opens up about navigating grief, the importance of therapy, working a 9-to-5 while running a full drag career, and the music journey that started with loss and ended with an eight-song album. We hear the full story of the bad producer who lost her vocal stems, how Julian changed everything, and why her new song might drop before Pride is over. Plus: The Cookout makes its Davenport edition debut — and Kennedy Davenport ends up exactly where you'd expect. Happy Pride, y'all. This one hits different. CATCH Messy Thoughts and GET TICKETS for "Some of this is Live" on June 25 at 8PM at The Creek & The Cave. 🎙️ Hosted by BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins 🎤 Guest: Diamond Dior Davenport | @diamonddiordavenport (verify handle before posting) 📍 Austin, TX Stream Diamond's album "Emotions of a Boss" — and keep an ear out for her new track dropping soon. This episode is brought to you by Createscape — Austin's queer-owned co-working space in East Austin. Open 24/7, private meeting rooms, open seating, coffee, and good vibes. Mention Messy Thoughts for a FREE day pass. www.createscapework.co 📲 Follow us: messythoughts.com | @messythoughtspod 💌 Contact: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & everywhere you get podcasts Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins, Produced by Keller Davis.
S2 · E34
June 17 · 58 min
"Food Talk (DO YOU WANT A REVOLUTION) with Rell Rugely" - Messy Thoughts 34
MESSY THOUGHTS 34. BJ and LeBron finally run the tapes on how they actually met Austin food creator Rell Rugely (@RellEatsWorld) — fully nude, fully confident, broad daylight, on a boat at Splash. From there it only gets messier: they pitch an all-Black takeover boat for next year's Pride season ("BABS 2027"), spiral into a 2000s R&B nostalgia tour that nobody asked for, and debate whether Interview with the Vampire is the gayest show on Netflix. Then Rell gets into it for real — building an Austin food page from nothing, the actual math behind what makes a TikTok video pop off, why her comments are filtered, the PR-freebie hustle that almost wasn't worth it, and what it took to finally quit her day job and go full-time. We get into production, perfectionism, the real cost of content creation, her familiar (boyfriend) Tyler, and the made-up words — "delishante," "diabetical" — that somehow caught on with her followers. We close it all out with a full round of The Cookout: Terry Black's vs. HEB Barbecue, Juan in a Million vs. Whip My Soul, Whataburger vs. In-N-Out, and the most heated debate of the episode — is it pecan, or is it PEcan? This is our first Cancer guest. Groundbreaking. 🍽️ Follow Rel: @RellEatsWorld on Instagram & TikTok 🖤 All our socials: MessyThoughts.com 📧 Email us: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 💬 Leave a comment — we read every single one (eventually, after we stop drafting the clapback) #MessyThoughts #BlackGayPodcast #AustinTX #RellEatsWorld #ATXFoodie #BlackCreators #QueerPodcast #TalkShowPodcast #ContentCreator #TheCookoutGame #AustinPodcast #BlackOwnedAustin #PodcastClips #ZodiacTalk #GayPodcast
S2 · E33
June 10 · 56 min
"Glass Closets & Coming Out Stories" - Messy Thoughts 33
MESSY THOUGHTS 33. 🏳️‍🌈 THE COMING OUT EPISODE 🏳️‍🌈 It's Pride Month, and we're finally doing the episode we've been saving since the very beginning. BJ and LeBron are joined by Daddy Keller for the most personal Messy Thoughts yet — our coming out stories, told in full for the first time. We get into all of it: glass closets, growing up in church, asking for dolls and getting silence, the friend who came out to BJ while he was trying to come out to her, the Mother's Day announcement that got "backpedaled," and the time Facebook outed LeBron to his entire family overnight (we have a vendetta against Zuckerberg to this day). But first — BJ's birthday weekend recap, why June Geminis can't be trusted, our Euphoria finale feelings, and a detour into AI data centers and why we're living on the most absurd timeline. Then it gets real. LeBron drops a coming out history lesson (it started with debutantes?!), and we each share our stories — the fear, the family reactions, the rough months, the parents who came around, and the ones still on the journey. Plus: what to actually say if your kid comes out to you, why "just come out" is easier said than done, and why coming out is never just a one-time thing. Whether you're out, on your way, or supporting someone who is — this one's for you. 💛 💬 SHARE YOUR COMING OUT STORY in the comments — we want to hear it. How did it go? Who showed up for you? What would you tell your younger self? MESSY THOUGHTS SOCIAL: 🌐 Website: www.MessyThoughts.com 📱 YouTube: [Subscribe for more episodes] 💬 TikTok | Instagram @MessyThoughtsPod New episodes every week. Where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are not. 🧼 Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Produced by Keller Davis. #ComingOut #ComingOutStories #PrideMonth #Pride2026 #LGBTQ #QueerPodcast #GayPodcast #Pride #LGBTQPodcast #QueerStories #BlackQueerPodcast #AustinPodcast #ComingOutStory #LoveIsLove #MessyThoughts
S2 · E32
June 3 · 1 hr
"Church Ladies at the Function with Jeremy A. Teel" - Messy Thoughts 32
Get ready for some REAL conversation! This week we're sitting down with the fabulous Jeremy A. Teel—a true community staple and one of the first people our host met when moving to Austin. Jeremy's a powerhouse in the queer scene, hosting legendary events like House of Soul and Chunk Party while championing the bears and fat boys community that often gets sidelined. In this episode, we dive DEEP into: Jeremy's iconic "Oh Hey with Me Jeremy" car video series that started it all The leather and kink world—who knew Jeremy was a full gear enthusiast? The messy TRUTH about corporate pride (yes, we're talking about those rainbow Indeed logos) How to actually get involved in Pride planning and stay on boards to keep organizations accountable Plugging Jeremy's incredible events: House of Soul (Houston & Austin) and Chunk Party Why community is everything and how one person CAN make a difference Jeremy shares real, unfiltered wisdom about hosting parties, building community, and never waiting around for someone else to create the space you need. He's the host you want at every event and the friend you need in the LGBTQ+ community. FIND JEREMY ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @JeremyATeel on everything (Instagram, TikTok, etc.) Email: JeremyATeel@gmail.com MESSY THOUGHTS SOCIAL: 🌐 Website: MessyThoughts.com 📱 YouTube: [Subscribe for more episodes] 💬 TikTok | Instagram | Spotify: @MessyThoughtsPod #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #AustinTX #HoustonTX #PartyProducer #JeremyTeel #MessyThoughts
S2 · E31
May 20 · 51 min
"Cancellation (A Messy Review)" - Messy Thoughts 31
MESSY THOUGHTS 31. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are getting into the messy, complicated, and sometimes hilarious world of cancel culture. Before diving into the main topic, they kick things off with ASMR sips, a Find My Friends trail run-in, the idea of a Black queer walk/run club in Austin, San Antonio Black Pride, Caffeine Daddy, and a very necessary summer sunscreen PSA. Then LeBron’s Corner takes over with a chaotic conversation about Spirit Airlines, budget flights, James Charles, and what actually counts as being “cancelled.” From celebrity apologies and PR cleanups to past mistakes, public accountability, and who deserves a second chance, the conversation goes all over the place — in the best way. The hosts talk Kanye West, Ellen DeGeneres, Chrissy Teigen, Drag Race controversies, Sherry Pie, Phi Phi O’Hara, James Ross/Tyra Sanchez, DaBaby, Beyoncé’s privacy, Michael Jackson’s complicated legacy, and how people participate in cancel culture themselves. It’s messy, funny, uncomfortable, honest, and exactly the kind of conversation that makes you ask: who’s really cancelled, who just went quiet for four months, and who should have never opened their mouth in the first place? #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #LGBT #MessyThoughts #CancelCulture
May 13 · 46 min
"Legs, Hips, and Body-Ody-Ody (Hantavirus?!?)" - Messy Thoughts 30
MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 30. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are talking summer bodies, gay beauty standards, body image, and the complicated way confidence, attraction, and community all collide when pool party season starts creeping up. The episode starts with Whitney Houston vocals, podcast alter egos, “The Familiar” merch ideas, and BJ getting read by his grandmother over his nose ring and bald head. Then the conversation gets real as the hosts unpack what it feels like to gain weight, get attention for your body, feel invisible in gay spaces, and deal with the pressure to look a certain way for Pride, pool parties, Grindr, circuit parties, and the gay community in general. They also talk about attractiveness as social currency, whether a good body can make up for a bad face, why the “Grindr game” can destroy your self-esteem, and how hard it can be to separate wanting to feel good for yourself from wanting validation from other people. Later, LeBron brings a chaotic, disclaimer-heavy Hantavirus update, BJ reviews a THC drink that tasted like battery acid, and the episode closes with Houston parking rage, a Pflugerville police Dutch Bros drive-thru incident, and a little Austin massage parlor news for the road. #MessyThoughts #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #ComedyPodcast #PopCulture #LGBT
S2 · E29
May 6 · 43 min
"Respect Your Elders? Absolutely Not" - Messy Thoughts 29
MESSY THOUGHTS 29. Welcome back to Messy Thoughts! This week, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, stan culture, internet chaos, and “hills we’re willing to die on” all collide in one gloriously messy episode. BJ and LeBron spiral from AI-generated celebrity voices and TikTok memes into a full-blown celebration of Rihanna’s legendary hit catalog, the evolution of fan bases, and the golden age of MySpace customization. The conversation takes a deeper turn when they debate Billie Eilish’s controversial comments about eating meat and whether respecting your elders should really be unconditional. From rude club encounters with older gays to cult leaders, social media addiction, cell phones ruining society, and Ticketmaster’s bot problem, absolutely nothing is safe from discussion this week. Plus: Gaga’s “Runway,” YouTube comment wars, phone-call etiquette, Apple Watch peer pressure, and why the internet has made everyone way too comfortable in comment sections. As always, the thoughts are messy… but the bottoms are not. #MessyThoughts #BlackPodcast #GayPodcast #LGBT #PopCulture
S2 · E28
April 29 · 51 min
"Y'all remember masks, protest, and 2020?" - Messy Thoughts 28
MESSY THOUGHTS 28. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are taking a messy, funny, and surprisingly reflective trip back to 2020 — the year of quarantine, masks, Zoom happy hours, six-feet-apart stickers, empty Austin streets, PPP loans, unemployment chaos, cancelled birthday plans, and everybody suddenly becoming very aware of who was in their “pod.” Before the time machine really gets going, the episode kicks off with Drag Race finale thoughts, Myki Meeks' win, Nini Coco’s performance, All Stars 11 excitement, and a very important public service announcement: maybe ask people who they voted for before you hook up with them. Then the conversation turns deeper as BJ and LeBron reflect on the murder of George Floyd, the rise of Black Lives Matter protests, Blackout Tuesday, performative allyship, protest fears, and how 2020 created a rare moment where people had the time, attention, and collective outrage to actually respond. They also revisit the weird little details we’ve all half-blocked out: birthday parties alone, masks under noses, COVID tests, vaccines, work-from-home setups, looting your office supplies when the company told you to “take what you need,” Austin bars that didn’t survive the pandemic, and the strange intimacy of pandemic friend groups. To close things out, LeBron responds to a recent racist video involving a Houston police officer and delivers a pointed reminder about racism, accountability, and believing people when they show you who they are. Messy, nostalgic, political, chaotic, and deeply 2020 — this episode asks: what did we learn, what did we forget, and why does everything still feel so messy? Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Produced by Keller Davis. www.messythoughts.com #MessyThoughts #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #QueerVoices #Pandemic
S2 · E27
April 22 · 42 min
"Coachella: Beauty & the BBC?!?!" - Messy Thoughts 27
MESSY THOUGHTS 27. BJ and LeBron are back after a little break, and they’ve got a lot to catch up on. The episode kicks off with some very Messy Thoughts energy as BJ declares that 2026 is officially “the year of the top,” which leads into a hilarious and unfiltered conversation about topping, bottoming, labels, and dating dynamics. Then the boys recap their recent trip to Treefort and Drag Fort in Boise, including their thoughts on Idaho, the festival vibe, drag kings, their live podcast experience, and how the whole trip ended up being better than expected. From there, things get even messier with a story from Hippie Hollow in Austin that turns into a conversation about boundaries, fetishization, and consent after a truly wild encounter involving a man with “I Love BBC” tattooed on his thigh. To close things out, LeBron gives a full Coachella recap — from camping and porta-potties to crowd behavior, festival fashion, standout performances, and why Karol G and Becky G delivered one of the most powerful moments of the weekend. If you love queer culture, messy stories, festival recaps, and funny, honest conversation, this episode is for you. Like, comment, and subscribe — and let us know: would you survive Hippie Hollow or Coachella camping?
S2 · E26
April 15 · 1 hr 1 min
"Live From Boise! Treefort Music Fest" - Messy Thoughts 26
Messy Thoughts goes live from Boise, Idaho at Treefort Music Festival for a hilarious, chaotic, and unexpectedly heartfelt night with BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. In this special live episode, BJ returns to his hometown of Boise and brings the Messy Thoughts energy to the stage for a crowd full of queer joy, messy confessions, audience questions, and unfiltered commentary. The night kicks off with stories about Boise, identity, and what it feels like to come home, before quickly spiraling into conversations about dating disasters, app culture, bad plane turbulence, situationships, and whether the gays are mean everywhere or if that’s just a universal truth. The episode also features a very funny Idaho trivia game, audience participation, some truly wild bedroom and dating discussions, and one of the most memorable stories of the night: BJ sharing what happened after a scammer threatened to leak his explicit photos to his family. What could have been humiliating turns into a conversation about shame, confidence, support systems, and owning your story. There’s also a sweet and genuine section on chosen family, queer friendship, and the people who help carry us through life, plus an important audience conversation about language, identity, and the meaning behind terms in queer culture. It’s messy, funny, vulnerable, loud, and full of live-show magic. If you were there at Treefort, thank you for being part of such a fun night. And if you’re just tuning in now, welcome to Messy Thoughts — where no topic is off limits and things can go from ridiculous to real in a matter of seconds. Like, comment, and subscribe for more episodes, clips, and messy conversations. #MessyThoughts #Treefort #LivePodcast #QueerPodcast #LGBTQPodcast
S2 · E25
April 8 · 46 min
"Facebook Dating is a MESS" - Messy Thoughts 25
MESSY THOUGHTS 25. BJ and LeBron are back with another wildly chaotic episode of Messy Thoughts, and this one truly goes everywhere. From allergy struggles and drag dreams to college Greek life, old school phones, cookout fantasy picks, and some truly unhinged dating-app behavior, the boys are in rare form. They kick things off recapping a recent panel appearance and showing love to Vivent Health, then spiral into stories about fraternity culture, sidekicks and BlackBerrys, and a hilarious celebrity cookout game that forces some impossible choices. Later, LeBron gets real about how rough dating has been lately — including one guy who revealed he voted for Trump, another who matched with him on Facebook Dating only to announce he is “not gay,” and a broader conversation about dating apps, flirting in real life, and why modern romance can feel fully broken. Somewhere along the way, they also talk about Janet Jackson, Michael B. Jordan, making out with strangers, and yes… remembering the Alamo. It is messy. It is personal. It is ridiculous. Just how we like it. In this episode: Recapping their recent panel event and community collab Allergy season chaos in Austin Greek life, college culture, and fraternity talk A celebrity “cookout” game with impossible choices LeBron’s latest dating horror stories Facebook Dating, Hinge, and real-life flirting A little pop culture, a little mess, and a lot of foolishness Subscribe, comment, and let us know: what is the wildest thing someone has ever said to you on a dating app? #MessyThoughtsPodcast #Podcast #GayPodcast #DatingApps #PopCulture
S2 · E24
March 25 · 55 min
"Let's Get Sickening" Feat. Laganja Estranja - Messy Thoughts 24
MESSY THOUGHTS 24. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron kick things off with a little life catch-up, some SXSW chaos, Sips & Sounds discourse, and the emotional devastation of missing Christina Aguilera. From there, the conversation spirals beautifully into hot people, Instagram boyfriends, breakup lurking, and the very specific pain of caring way too much about strangers online. Then they’re joined by the iconic Laganja Estranja (@laganjaestranja) for a wildly fun, thoughtful, and very Messy conversation about drag, travel, weed, performance, and building a career on your own terms. Laganja talks about touring in Thailand and across Asia with Aquaria, why Brazil has her heart, what it means to produce your own shows, and how she’s thinking about legacy at this point in her career. They also get into cannabis, her upcoming product line, fan interactions, dating, queer culture, ballroom influence, and the very important distinction between a dip and a death drop. It’s funny, chaotic, smart, a little horny, and all over the place in exactly the way we like it. This episode has: SXSW stories, social media spirals, drag excellence, international gig life, weed talk, hot men, ballroom discourse, and one very real conversation about what it means to keep evolving as an artist. #LaganjaEstranja #DragRace #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #SXSW
S2 · E23
March 18 · 59 min
"Fast & Messy: The Wigatry" - Messy Thoughts 23
Messy Thoughts – Episode 23 This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are back with another chaotic, hilarious, and surprisingly deep conversation about pop culture, concerts, money, friendship, and the messy realities of adult life. The episode kicks off with a wild tangent about the viral Dr Pepper TikTok jingle, TikTok fame, and how creators get paid (or don’t) for their work. From there, the conversation spirals into pop music and concert culture, including LeBron’s experience seeing Lady Gaga in Austin and why Gaga’s impact on the LGBTQ+ community still means so much today. But the messiness doesn’t stop there. BJ and LeBron dive into some real-life dilemmas: • What do you do when someone borrows money and never pays you back? • Is it fair to split the dinner bill evenly when some people order way more than others? • Why do people leave concerts early after paying hundreds for tickets? Later in the episode, producer Daddy Keller jumps in for a chaotic new segment called “Fast and Messy,” where the hosts answer rapid-fire questions about sexuality, culture, relationships, and identity—while trying on wigs and completely losing their composure. Expect debates about bisexuality, cookout invites, gay culture, gentrification, and the kinds of questions that only Messy Thoughts could turn into a hilarious conversation. If you like messy conversations, pop culture debates, and unfiltered takes about life, friendship, and queer culture—this episode is for you. Leave us a voicemail with your own messy thoughts and you might hear yourself on a future episode. MESSY THOUGHTS Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins, Produced by Keller Davis. www.messythoughts.com #LGBTQPodcast #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #GayCulture #PodcastClips
S2 · E22
March 11 · 1 hr 17 min
"JK But Messy" Feat. Jake & Kendrick - Messy Thoughts 22
This week on Messy Thoughts, we’re bringing you a chaotic, hilarious, and heartfelt Austin–San Antonio podcast crossover with the hosts of the JK But Gay Podcast — Jake Reyna-Casanova and Kendrick Vela. From the moment these four get in the room, the energy is pure mess (in the best way). We talk about how both podcasts started, navigating the intersection of Latino and LGBTQ identities, and what it’s like building community in spaces that sometimes don’t feel built for you. Jake and Kendrick share the story of how they met, how their friendship turned into a podcast, and why they felt a Latino gay voice was missing in podcasting. The conversation goes deep — from racism and microaggressions in queer spaces to the emotional realities of fostering children and the complicated relationship many of us have with family, identity, and culture. We also get into some lighter chaos: ✨ Kendrick spills the tea on his Emmy-winning meteorologist husband ✨ We debate gay spaces vs Latino spaces ✨ We play the iconic “Who’s Invited to the Latino Cookout?” game ✨ And of course… we end with a passionate breakdown of Beyoncé, Bad Bunny, Selena, and the cultural impact of Latino icons If you love messy conversations, big laughs, and real talk about culture and identity — this crossover episode is for you. Go show love to JK But Gay Podcast and subscribe to both shows! Messy Thoughts. Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Produced by Keller Davis. www.messythoughts.com #MessyThoughts #JKButGay #GayPodcast #LatinoLGBTQ #QueerLatino

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