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Messy Thoughts

BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins

Messy Thoughts is a no-holds-barred talk show where Austin-based friends BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins catch up weekly to get into the mess—from pop culture deep dives to personal rabbit holes. Each episode explores life, sex, identity, and everything in between through a queer lens, as the duo trade off asking each other a mix of intrusive thoughts and premeditated questions that range from hilarious to heartfelt. Whether it’s unpacking bad behavior or dissecting viral drama, BJ and LeBron keep it honest, unpredictable, and unapologetically messy.

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S2 · E48
Wednesday · 55 min
"Why Austin Needs More Black Queer Spaces" feat. Marcus Darling - Messy Thoughts 48
MESSY THOUGHTS 48. From college football to the ballroom scene to building some of Austin's most exciting Black nightlife experiences, Marcus Dalton knows how to bring the party! 🥂🎉 On Episode 48 of Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron sit down with event producer, entrepreneur, and founder of The Brunch Club & Co., Marcus Darling, to talk about creating spaces for Black and queer communities, the business behind nightlife, and what it really takes to throw an unforgettable event. Marcus shares his journey from playing college football at SMU to finding community in the ballroom scene, launching The Brunch Club & Co., and eventually bringing his talents to Austin, Texas. We get into why representation matters in nightlife, the importance of good music and great DJs, and how Marcus turned his passion for hosting into a thriving career. Of course, it wouldn't be Messy Thoughts without a little chaos! 😂 We're also talking club etiquette, confronting shade in person versus online, themed parties, Houston nightlife, reality TV encounters, hilarious AI-generated photos, and Marcus's vision for the ultimate dream brunch. 💬 LET'S TALK: What makes a truly great party? Is it the music, the people, the venue, or the drinks? Tell us in the comments! 🎙️ MESSY THOUGHTS — EPISODE 48 Hosted by BJ & LeBron Special Guest: Marcus Darling Produced by: Keller Davis Follow Marcus and his events: The Brunch Club & Co. Nothing To Do In Austin I Love R&B FOLLOW: @themarcusdarling @bhinoooooo @nothingtodoinaustin @azureatx @ilov3rnb_ @thebrunchclubco ❤️ LIKE this video, SUBSCRIBE to our channel, and SHARE with someone who loves a good party! Follow Messy Thoughts on Instagram, TikTok, and YouTube for more conversations, clips, and all the mess. Where the thoughts are messy, and the conversations are always entertaining. #MessyThoughts #MarcusDarling #BlackNightlife #AustinNightlife #BlackQueerCommunity
S2 · E47
October 21 · 47 min
"Facing Our Worst Fears" - Messy Thoughts 47
MESSY THOUGHTS 47. 👻 IT'S OUR SPOOKY EPISODE. 👻 BJ and LeBron dim the lights, pull out a Ouija board, and try to contact a legend. (It did not go how we planned.) From there, Messy Thoughts Episode 45 turns into a full-on group therapy session about fear: what scares us, what doesn't, and what we refuse to invite into our homes. Do spirits exist? Are your loved ones visiting you as butterflies and tails-up pennies, or is it over when it's over? We get into Day of the Dead, purgatory, and why one of us wants to be buried like a full-on pharaoh. Then we hit the rapid-fire round: broke vs. stuck, aging vs. irrelevance, failing publicly vs. never trying. Plus why rejection hurts so much and why you should still shoot your shot at the bar. There's also a deep, very real fear of whales. There's a "let's go to Olive Garden" that turned into a haunted house ambush with people in pig masks. And we explain why storm drains are a hard no (thanks, Pennywise). We talk about how fear is learned, a viral Austin neighborhood parking fight, why the fear of flying makes no sense (except on that Boise flight), and finally our dream funerals. One of them involves Beyoncé, strobe lights, and a body on strings. Messy, spooky, and a little unhinged. Happy Halloween from the Messy Thoughts family. 🎃 🎧 New episodes every week 👍 Like, comment & subscribe, and tell us your biggest fear in the comments! 📲 Follow Messy Thoughts: TikTok / Instagram / YouTube: @messythoughtspod 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 Business & bookings: messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #MessyThoughtsPodcast #SpookySeason #Halloween #OuijaBoard #Paranormal #HauntedHouse #ScaryStories #QueerPodcast #LGBTQPodcast #GayPodcast #AustinPodcast #ComedyPodcast #PodcastClips #BiggestFears
S2 · E46
October 14 · 53 min
"The Bottoms Are Not Afraid To Be Political" - Messy Thoughts 46
MESSY THOUGHTS 46. BJ and LeBron are NOT holding back. This week's episode starts chaotic (Charli XCX concert cocaine theories, anyone?) and escalates into a full-on civics lesson that nobody asked for but everybody needed. BJ's got a burn scar on his booty, LeBron is coaching high school boys volleyball and loving every second of it, and somehow the two of them end up breaking down the entire U.S. government — Electoral College, Supreme Court, term limits, midterms, and why your vote actually matters — while being absolutely hilarious the entire time. From waxing appointments to the Pledge of Allegiance to Luscious Massacre meeting grandma, this episode has it all. Then they get serious: a frank, funny, and genuinely informative conversation about voting, the two-party system, Congressional term limits, and why midterm elections affect your life way more than presidential ones. Plus: a "Project 2028" manifesto you did not see coming. Pull up a seat. This is Messy Thoughts. 🎙️ Find us everywhere: messythoughts.com 📸 Instagram: @messythoughtspod🎵 TikTok: @messythoughtspod ▶️ YouTube: @messythoughtspod 📧 Contact: messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #MessyThoughtsPodcast #BlackPodcast #QueerPodcast #AustinPodcast #PoliticsPodcast #VotingRights #MidtermElections #ElectoralCollege #TermLimits #LGBTQ #BlackTwitter #TalkShow #Podcast #PodcastRecommendation #NewEpisode #ChatShow #CivicsLesson #GetOutAndVote #PopCulture
S2 · E45
October 7 · 41 min
"Gays And Sports?" - Messy Thoughts 45
MESSY THOUGHTS 45. Sunglasses on, identity stolen, and trauma unpacked — welcome back to Messy Thoughts! 🏈🏐🎾 This week BJ and LeBron are talking about THE GAME. Were you a sports kid, or were you the kid on the soccer field picking flowers while your dad lost his mind on the sidelines? (Guess which one LeBron was.) From forced football seasons to bond with Dad, to BJ getting cut from hurdles in record time and finding his calling as a thrower, to the volleyball team he couldn't join because it was "for the girls," the hosts relive every awkward, sweaty, rule-less moment of growing up queer in sports. Then the real debate: what's the gayest sport? (Cheer says hi. 📣) Plus an Austin gay sports league story that ends in an own goal, why sore losers are the worst, and a very real conversation about homophobia in men's sports, the WNBA pay gap, and how women in tennis get picked apart for things the men never hear about. Fresh off the US Open, BJ has thoughts: justice for Naomi Osaka's Allen Iverson tribute fit, love for Taylor Townsend building her own brand, and a message for everyone who tried to discredit Ben Shelton's win over Alcaraz. And before we go: Raven-Symoné says That's So Raven wasn't a black show. The hosts… respectfully disagree. And they have receipts (RIP to every recast TV mom). Tell us in the comments 👇 What sport did you play growing up — and what's the GAYEST sport? 🎧 Listen everywhere you get podcasts 📱 Follow @messythoughtspod on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 Business inquiries: messythoughtspod@gmail.com Messy Thoughts is where the thoughts are messy and the conversations are real. New episodes every week. #MessyThoughts #MessyThoughtsPodcast #QueerPodcast #GayPodcast #LGBTQ #BlackQueer #AustinPodcast #GaySports #QueerAthletes #USOpen #WNBA #NaomiOsaka #RavenSymone #ThatsSoRaven #ComedyPodcast
S2 · E4
September 30 · 52 min
"That Never Happened" feat. Christie Hoffman - Messy Thoughts 44
MESSY THOUGHTS 44. Messy Thoughts is back with one of the most honest, hilarious, and healing conversations we've ever had on this podcast. BJ and LeBron sit down with content creator and trauma recovery advocate Christie Hoffman (@christie.heals) — and y'all, she did NOT hold back. Christie shares her raw, unfiltered story: surviving a physically abusive marriage, losing her brother to suicide, going no-contact with her family, and finding herself on the other side of all of it — thriving, 300K followers deep, and finally living in her truth. We get into DARVO (the manipulation tactic that will literally change how you see every difficult relationship in your life), the role psychedelics played in her healing, why Joe Dispenza's meditations had her crying in a room visualizing a TEDx stage, what it really means to "choose your hard," and why if you're a black sheep, you might actually be the GOAT of your bloodline. This episode is for anyone who's ever felt gaslit by someone they loved, stayed too long in something that wasn't serving them, or needed permission to blow up their life and start over. Also — we talk about astrology, single mom dating escapades, the gay community needing to sit down for a second, and what Christie may or may not have discovered about her own sexuality. New here? Subscribe and come back every episode for the kind of conversations you wish you could have with your best friends. 📌 Find Christie: Instagram & TikTok: @christie.heals 📌 Resources mentioned: DARVO Cheat Sheet: Christie created this to help people recognize whether they may be experiencing manipulation in any relationship in their lives. https://drive.google.com/file/d/1QCVDOOPvPkaCUYsVOU_0aHCUT9TWQeEE/view?usp=sharing Joe Dispenza Meditations: These are two of Christie's favorites. She used them to help bridge the gap between her old life and the life she was trying to create. They helped her hold on, heal, and begin imagining a different reality for myself. Tuning into new potentials: https://drjoedispenza.com/product-details/Tuning%20In%20To%20New%20Potentials Morning / Evening meditations (shorter meditations for every day): https://drjoedispenza.com/product-details/Tuning%20In%20To%20New%20Potentials The RECLAIM Method: Christie created it specifically to help people who feel trapped, confused, or in crisis recognize manipulation, reclaim their voice, and decide what comes next. https://go.christiehoffman.com/c/cg2Z4775_M Following Cyrus Veyssi: https://www.instagram.com/cyrusveyssi/ 🎙️ Messy Thoughts — where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are healed. www.messythoughts.com Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins, Produced by Keller Davis. #MessyThoughts #ChristieHoffman #HealingJourney #TraumaRecovery #DARVO #GenerationalCurses #Psychedelics #JoeDispenza #Boundaries #BreakingCycles #SelfLove #MentalHealth #GayPodcast #QueerContent #Codependency #DivorceRecovery #Manifestation #ChoosingYourself #ChristieHeals
S2 · E43
September 23 · 46 min
"The Family You Were Born Into" - Messy Thoughts 43
MESSY THOUGHTS 43. BJ, LeBron and Keller are in their feelings — and their family memories — for episode 43. What starts as a chaotic pre-show debate about running downtown Austin, ketchup packets, and In-N-Out fries somehow becomes a full deep dive into Pink's Black era, Kandi Burruss's songwriting empire, Real Housewives drama, and the case for Keke Palmer getting a podcast booking ASAP. Then things get real. BJ breaks down what it was like growing up as one of six kids in a big, loud, blended, beautiful Alabama family — and why that kind of family richness is getting harder to afford in America. LeBron shares what it meant to grow up with twins as siblings. Keller reflects on distance, communication, and what gets lost when you don't call enough. They debate what to actually unlearn from the way they were raised — the colorism jokes that don't translate outside the family, the emotional regulation nobody taught them, and the words that were just "normal" until they weren't. Plus: If someone handed you $7 million right now, how much would your siblings get? BJ's answer will make you gasp. LeBron's will make you laugh. And yes — "We're a family here" at your job orientation? They have thoughts. 🎙️ Hosted by BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins | Produced by Keller Davis 📲 Follow us: @messythoughts on Instagram, TikTok & YouTube 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com | 🌐 messythoughts.com #MessyThoughts #Podcast #AustinPodcast #FamilyTalk #BlackPodcast #PopCulture #RealHousewives #KikiPalmer #GrowingUp #FamilyDrama
S2 · E42
September 16 · 53 min
"Everything is Changing And We're Not Okay" - Messy Thoughts 42
MESSY THOUGHTS 42. BJ, LeBron, and a special appearance from Keller are back — and this one went everywhere. It starts with BJ's niceness finally running out on a stranger who had way too many opinions, then somehow spirals into bad Airbnb experiences, the most chaotic decisions that actually worked out, the most overrated things in existence (food trucks, run clubs, and one very specific music genre), and a deep Shrek shirt appreciation moment courtesy of Keller. Then things get real. The crew sits down with a topic that hits home for all three of them: change. How do you actually deal with it when it comes for your relationships, your body, your career, your community? When is resistance grief and when is it wisdom? They get into celebrity deaths disrupting their peace, Peter Pan syndrome in Austin's gay community, and what it looks like to stop trying to fit into spaces that were never built for you — and just go be somewhere you're actually wanted. Plus: Does BJ know who Ella Langley is? Keller and LeBron need answers. Drop your thoughts in the comments and find us on all socials. 🎙️ 📲 TikTok | Instagram | YouTube → @messythoughtspod 🌐 messythoughts.com #messythoughts #blackpodcast #austinpodcast #gaypodcast #peterpansyndrome #airbnb #talkshow #podcastlife #selfimprovement #queerpodcast #changeyoucanbelievein #overrated
S2 · E41
September 2 · 46 min
"We Were NOT Prepared for These Questions" - Messy Thoughts 41
MESSY THOUGHTS 41. This week BJ and LeBron are going full Messy Bowl — no regular agenda, just topics pulled straight from the bowl and a 10-minute clock. What could go wrong? Everything. In the best way. They kick things off venting about the absolute disrespect of apartment AC going out in the middle of summer, the art of negotiating thermostat settings with your parents, and why car maintenance should be illegal. BJ is 2,000 miles overdue for an oil change and has zero shame. Then the bowl takes over: Tequila vs. Vodka — BJ and LeBron debate which one deserves to be erased from existence forever. Spoiler: neither of them is going quietly. Wedding crashing, tiramisu cake, and Kyle at the Iron Bear all make appearances. Should there be a partner rating app? — Turns out, it already exists. And LeBron has a profile. With glowing reviews. BJ reads one live on air. This is journalism. Nostalgia is killing new art — Are millennials so obsessed with reboots and sequels that we've forgotten how to make something original? Toy Story 5, Coming to America 2, Avatar, The Incredibles... BJ and LeBron call it all out. Euphoria Season 3 — LeBron watched it. BJ didn't. That did not stop the conversation. Full spoilers, full opinions, full devastation. They break down what went wrong, what they wish had happened, and why they both wish they'd left it at Season 2. Drop your Messy Bowl topics in our comments or link in bio — your question might get pulled next time. 🎙️ New episodes every week. Like, subscribe, and share so we can keep the thoughts messy. 📲 Follow us: TikTok | Instagram | YouTube → @messythoughts 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #PopCulture #PodcastLife #TalkShow #AustinPodcast #BlackPodcast #GayPodcast #BlackAndGay
S2 · E40
August 26 · 46 min
"Can You Be In a Relationship Without Losing Yourself?" - Messy Thoughts 40
MESSY THOUGHTS 40. BJ and LeBron are NOT holding back. This week's episode kicks off with a genuinely philosophical detour — what if everyone you've ever met is just you in a different timeline? From there it's full send into: would you ever shapeshift into another race or body if you could (Mystique discourse is real), what it means to actually date as yourself instead of your PR rep, and the Whoopi Goldberg book that honestly snatched a wig. Oh, and friendships. The real kind. The ones where you can call out of nowhere and time just resets. The ones where someone hurt your feelings and you actually said something about it. The ones that get smaller as you get older — and why that's not always a bad thing. Plus: BJ's bold non-negotiables in both romance and friendship (yes, one of them involves eating something), LeBron's reincarnation preferences laid bare, and the very honest question of what are you even bringing to the table? Drop your five things you look for in a relationship in the comments — we actually want to know. 👇 New episodes of Messy Thoughts every week. Subscribe and come be messy with us. 🌐 messythoughts.com 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com 📲 @messythoughts on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube #MessyThoughts #GayPodcast #RelationshipAdvice #LGBTQ #BlackPodcast #PopCulture #FriendshipGoals
S2 · E39
August 19 · 48 min
"The Anatomy of a Hater" - Messy Thoughts 39
MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 39. What does it actually mean to be a hater — and is it always a bad thing? BJ and LeBron crack open some Trip melon cucumber drinks and get into it. They break down the real definition of a hater, why they think hating is honestly kind of built into us, and where the line is between healthy jealousy and straight-up toxic behavior. They call out the covert haters in your friend group, the ones sliding into your Instagram stories every day but never saying a word to your face. Then they take it to celebrity land — breaking down La Roche's judging style on Project Runway, Tamar Braxton's messy era, and a full Nicki Minaj deep dive on how insecurity can turn a legend into a hater. LeBron runs BJ through a round of "Friend or Foe" — three real-life scenarios to figure out if your people are actually your people. And the Messy Bowl makes its return with a spicy first-date question that they immediately decide deserves its own whole episode. Pull up. 🔗 Find us everywhere: messythoughts.com 📧 Submit to the Messy Bowl: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 📲 @messythoughts on TikTok, Instagram & YouTube Subscribe so you never miss an episode. #messythoughts #messythoughtspod #haters #nikciminaj #projectrunway #laroach #tamarbraxton #friendorfoe #blackpodcast #culturepodcast #gayblackmen #popculture #realitytvtea #dramawithaside #queerpodcast
S2 · E38
August 12 · 46 min
"Are The Gays Loving Themselves?" - Messy Thoughts 38
MESSY THOUGHTS 38. We're back. And we have thoughts. BJ and LeBron return from their mid-season break with a packed episode — movie quote challenges, Europe recaps, a run-in with a rude flight attendant, and a deep dive into whether the gay community actually practices what it preaches about love and self-acceptance. BJ just got back from Santorini, Greece (with a layover detour through Madrid that included a very... educational bathhouse visit), and LeBron filled his break with work, an Oura Ring, and a new theory about complimenting strangers on the street. It's a lot. We get into all of it. Then things get real. The guys ask a question nobody wants to answer honestly: do gay men actually celebrate each other — or are we too busy calculating each other's value the second someone walks through the door? From body politics to ageism, lookism, and exclusive party flyers, BJ and LeBron go there without apology. To close it out, the Messy Bowl makes its debut — and the first question pulled is spicy enough: do you actually have to be liked by your boyfriend's friends? Drop your answer in the comments. And if you've got a question for the Messy Bowl, send it our way. Follow Messy Thoughts: 🎙️ messythoughts.com 📸 Instagram: @messythoughtspod 🎵 TikTok: @messythoughtspod ▶️ YouTube: Messy Thoughts 📧 messythoughtspod@gmail.com #MessyThoughts #GayCommunity #LGBTQPodcast #QueerPodcast #GayPodcast #GayMen #PodcastForBlackGayMen #PopCulture #PrideTalk #ATXPodcast
S2 · E37
July 15 · 58 min
"I Used to Dance!! (with Colton Dowling)" - Messy Thoughts 37
MESSY THOUGHTS 37. Stand-up comedian, writer, and actor Colton Dowling (Some of This Is Bad) pulls up to the Messy Thoughts studio — and within about ninety seconds he's already announced he's uncomfortable and asked if this is "a card." BJ and LeBron take that as a personal challenge, and what follows is one of the most gloriously derailed hours we've recorded. We open on BBL recovery times and the horror of everything going straight to your ass, before Colton gets into whether you're legally allowed to fire your therapist (and whether the problem is the therapist or… you). BJ steers us into the naked power-walker of downtown Austin, LeBron fights for the sanctity of clapping at the end of a movie, and somewhere in there Colton reveals the PF Chang's interview that quietly ended his modeling career. The back half goes fully off the rails: a movie tangent where the three of us basically just name films we half-remember and describe the plots wrong, a Players Club recap that raises more questions than it answers, a heated referendum on whether LA is fake, and the sacred bond between a mom and her lipstick mirror-notes. Colton also opens up about the Paris he'd blocked out for twelve years and why, these days, he "doesn't dance anymore." It gets real, it gets stupid, it gets H-E-B-reverent. BJ, LeBron, and Colton close it out with plans to flee to Spain and one lingering question about Katy Perry in space. The thoughts are messy. The bottoms are not. 🎙️ Special guest: Colton Dowling ▶️ Podcast: Some of This Is Bad 📸 IG: @coltondowling // @someofthisisbad ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ 🔔 New episodes of Messy Thoughts with BJ & LeBron — subscribe & hit the bell 🎧 Also on Apple Podcasts & Spotify 📱 Follow for clips & chaos ━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━━ #MessyThoughts #ColtonDowling #SomeOfThisIsBad #ComedyPodcast #QueerPodcast
S2 · E36
July 8 · 54 min
"The Bald & The Beautiful (Dillion's Back!)" - Messy Thoughts 36
MESSY THOUGHTS 36. Dillion Kordell is BACK — bald, 30, and cussing out his comment section. 💅🏾 The girls are messy this week. Returning guest and Dillion Kordell Show host Dillion Kordell pulls up to break down his new bald-and-bold era, the art of arguing with racists in your comments, and why the internet is way more fun in your head than it actually is. BJ and LeBron get into everything from friend-group breakups and "love offline" to the manosphere, the "gayosphere," Pride history, and being unapologetically Black in white gay spaces. It gets real, it gets read-you-for-filth funny, and yes — BJ comes out as pansexual live on the mic (shout out to trigonometry). In this episode: – Dillion's bald glow-up and turning 30 – Clapping back at hateful comments (and living for the engagement) – The "tops in air quotes" debate + BJ's "power verse" declaration – Bringing a whole duffel bag to the club, and the great "Sigourney Weaver vs. Harriet Tubman" mix-up – Why you should NEVER date inside your friend group (a balcony story) – Monét exchange & Andy, canceled weddings, and the case for "love offline" – Soft launches, not posting your partner, and people who are always watching – Millennials vs. Gen Z, weaponized social media, and the Apple Music/Spotify wars – The manosphere, the "gayosphere," and hyper-masculinity in queer spaces – Pride Month, LGBTQ+ history, and why the L comes first – Race, segregated gay parties, and the pitch for "LeBron Undercover" – Frolic Weekend, being around your people, and Lift Every Voice – Whitney, Clive Davis, and why nobody at this table is getting in a helicopter New episodes every week. This is Messy Thoughts — where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are not. 🧼 Guest: Dillion Kordell — The Dillion Kordell Show ▶️ [@dillionkordellshow] Follow Messy Thoughts 🌐 messythoughts.com 📩 messythoughtspod@gmail.com Subscribe + turn on notifications so you never miss a mess. ⚠️ Mature content: explicit language + adult themes. 18+. #MessyThoughts #BlackGayPodcast #QueerPodcast #LGBTQPodcast #austinpodcast
S2 · E35
June 24 · 44 min
"Diamonds Are Forever with Diamond Dior Davenport" - Messy Thoughts 35
MESSY THOUGHTS 35. Austin drag icon Diamond Dior Davenport joins BJ and LeBron for one of the most personal, chaotic, and genuinely moving episodes yet. Diamond breaks down the full behind-the-scenes chaos of the Majestic Ball — her 35-minute Beyoncé Homecoming tribute set — from the costume that didn't fit five days before showtime to rehearsing stage blocking in the street with duct tape. She also opens up about navigating grief, the importance of therapy, working a 9-to-5 while running a full drag career, and the music journey that started with loss and ended with an eight-song album. We hear the full story of the bad producer who lost her vocal stems, how Julian changed everything, and why her new song might drop before Pride is over. Plus: The Cookout makes its Davenport edition debut — and Kennedy Davenport ends up exactly where you'd expect. Happy Pride, y'all. This one hits different. CATCH Messy Thoughts and GET TICKETS for "Some of this is Live" on June 25 at 8PM at The Creek & The Cave. 🎙️ Hosted by BJ Burgess & LeBron Huggins 🎤 Guest: Diamond Dior Davenport | @diamonddiordavenport (verify handle before posting) 📍 Austin, TX Stream Diamond's album "Emotions of a Boss" — and keep an ear out for her new track dropping soon. This episode is brought to you by Createscape — Austin's queer-owned co-working space in East Austin. Open 24/7, private meeting rooms, open seating, coffee, and good vibes. Mention Messy Thoughts for a FREE day pass. www.createscapework.co 📲 Follow us: messythoughts.com | @messythoughtspod 💌 Contact: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 🎧 Listen on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & everywhere you get podcasts Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins, Produced by Keller Davis.
S2 · E34
June 17 · 58 min
"Food Talk (DO YOU WANT A REVOLUTION) with Rell Rugely" - Messy Thoughts 34
MESSY THOUGHTS 34. BJ and LeBron finally run the tapes on how they actually met Austin food creator Rell Rugely (@RellEatsWorld) — fully nude, fully confident, broad daylight, on a boat at Splash. From there it only gets messier: they pitch an all-Black takeover boat for next year's Pride season ("BABS 2027"), spiral into a 2000s R&B nostalgia tour that nobody asked for, and debate whether Interview with the Vampire is the gayest show on Netflix. Then Rell gets into it for real — building an Austin food page from nothing, the actual math behind what makes a TikTok video pop off, why her comments are filtered, the PR-freebie hustle that almost wasn't worth it, and what it took to finally quit her day job and go full-time. We get into production, perfectionism, the real cost of content creation, her familiar (boyfriend) Tyler, and the made-up words — "delishante," "diabetical" — that somehow caught on with her followers. We close it all out with a full round of The Cookout: Terry Black's vs. HEB Barbecue, Juan in a Million vs. Whip My Soul, Whataburger vs. In-N-Out, and the most heated debate of the episode — is it pecan, or is it PEcan? This is our first Cancer guest. Groundbreaking. 🍽️ Follow Rel: @RellEatsWorld on Instagram & TikTok 🖤 All our socials: MessyThoughts.com 📧 Email us: messythoughtspod@gmail.com 💬 Leave a comment — we read every single one (eventually, after we stop drafting the clapback) #MessyThoughts #BlackGayPodcast #AustinTX #RellEatsWorld #ATXFoodie #BlackCreators #QueerPodcast #TalkShowPodcast #ContentCreator #TheCookoutGame #AustinPodcast #BlackOwnedAustin #PodcastClips #ZodiacTalk #GayPodcast
S2 · E33
June 10 · 56 min
"Glass Closets & Coming Out Stories" - Messy Thoughts 33
MESSY THOUGHTS 33. 🏳️‍🌈 THE COMING OUT EPISODE 🏳️‍🌈 It's Pride Month, and we're finally doing the episode we've been saving since the very beginning. BJ and LeBron are joined by Daddy Keller for the most personal Messy Thoughts yet — our coming out stories, told in full for the first time. We get into all of it: glass closets, growing up in church, asking for dolls and getting silence, the friend who came out to BJ while he was trying to come out to her, the Mother's Day announcement that got "backpedaled," and the time Facebook outed LeBron to his entire family overnight (we have a vendetta against Zuckerberg to this day). But first — BJ's birthday weekend recap, why June Geminis can't be trusted, our Euphoria finale feelings, and a detour into AI data centers and why we're living on the most absurd timeline. Then it gets real. LeBron drops a coming out history lesson (it started with debutantes?!), and we each share our stories — the fear, the family reactions, the rough months, the parents who came around, and the ones still on the journey. Plus: what to actually say if your kid comes out to you, why "just come out" is easier said than done, and why coming out is never just a one-time thing. Whether you're out, on your way, or supporting someone who is — this one's for you. 💛 💬 SHARE YOUR COMING OUT STORY in the comments — we want to hear it. How did it go? Who showed up for you? What would you tell your younger self? MESSY THOUGHTS SOCIAL: 🌐 Website: www.MessyThoughts.com 📱 YouTube: [Subscribe for more episodes] 💬 TikTok | Instagram @MessyThoughtsPod New episodes every week. Where the thoughts are messy and the bottoms are not. 🧼 Hosted by BJ Burgess and LeBron Huggins. Produced by Keller Davis. #ComingOut #ComingOutStories #PrideMonth #Pride2026 #LGBTQ #QueerPodcast #GayPodcast #Pride #LGBTQPodcast #QueerStories #BlackQueerPodcast #AustinPodcast #ComingOutStory #LoveIsLove #MessyThoughts
S2 · E32
June 3 · 1 hr
"Church Ladies at the Function with Jeremy A. Teel" - Messy Thoughts 32
Get ready for some REAL conversation! This week we're sitting down with the fabulous Jeremy A. Teel—a true community staple and one of the first people our host met when moving to Austin. Jeremy's a powerhouse in the queer scene, hosting legendary events like House of Soul and Chunk Party while championing the bears and fat boys community that often gets sidelined. In this episode, we dive DEEP into: Jeremy's iconic "Oh Hey with Me Jeremy" car video series that started it all The leather and kink world—who knew Jeremy was a full gear enthusiast? The messy TRUTH about corporate pride (yes, we're talking about those rainbow Indeed logos) How to actually get involved in Pride planning and stay on boards to keep organizations accountable Plugging Jeremy's incredible events: House of Soul (Houston & Austin) and Chunk Party Why community is everything and how one person CAN make a difference Jeremy shares real, unfiltered wisdom about hosting parties, building community, and never waiting around for someone else to create the space you need. He's the host you want at every event and the friend you need in the LGBTQ+ community. FIND JEREMY ON SOCIAL MEDIA: @JeremyATeel on everything (Instagram, TikTok, etc.) Email: JeremyATeel@gmail.com MESSY THOUGHTS SOCIAL: 🌐 Website: MessyThoughts.com 📱 YouTube: [Subscribe for more episodes] 💬 TikTok | Instagram | Spotify: @MessyThoughtsPod #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #AustinTX #HoustonTX #PartyProducer #JeremyTeel #MessyThoughts
S2 · E31
May 20 · 51 min
"Cancellation (A Messy Review)" - Messy Thoughts 31
MESSY THOUGHTS 31. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are getting into the messy, complicated, and sometimes hilarious world of cancel culture. Before diving into the main topic, they kick things off with ASMR sips, a Find My Friends trail run-in, the idea of a Black queer walk/run club in Austin, San Antonio Black Pride, Caffeine Daddy, and a very necessary summer sunscreen PSA. Then LeBron’s Corner takes over with a chaotic conversation about Spirit Airlines, budget flights, James Charles, and what actually counts as being “cancelled.” From celebrity apologies and PR cleanups to past mistakes, public accountability, and who deserves a second chance, the conversation goes all over the place — in the best way. The hosts talk Kanye West, Ellen DeGeneres, Chrissy Teigen, Drag Race controversies, Sherry Pie, Phi Phi O’Hara, James Ross/Tyra Sanchez, DaBaby, Beyoncé’s privacy, Michael Jackson’s complicated legacy, and how people participate in cancel culture themselves. It’s messy, funny, uncomfortable, honest, and exactly the kind of conversation that makes you ask: who’s really cancelled, who just went quiet for four months, and who should have never opened their mouth in the first place? #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #LGBT #MessyThoughts #CancelCulture
May 13 · 46 min
"Legs, Hips, and Body-Ody-Ody (Hantavirus?!?)" - Messy Thoughts 30
MESSY THOUGHTS EPISODE 30. This week on Messy Thoughts, BJ and LeBron are talking summer bodies, gay beauty standards, body image, and the complicated way confidence, attraction, and community all collide when pool party season starts creeping up. The episode starts with Whitney Houston vocals, podcast alter egos, “The Familiar” merch ideas, and BJ getting read by his grandmother over his nose ring and bald head. Then the conversation gets real as the hosts unpack what it feels like to gain weight, get attention for your body, feel invisible in gay spaces, and deal with the pressure to look a certain way for Pride, pool parties, Grindr, circuit parties, and the gay community in general. They also talk about attractiveness as social currency, whether a good body can make up for a bad face, why the “Grindr game” can destroy your self-esteem, and how hard it can be to separate wanting to feel good for yourself from wanting validation from other people. Later, LeBron brings a chaotic, disclaimer-heavy Hantavirus update, BJ reviews a THC drink that tasted like battery acid, and the episode closes with Houston parking rage, a Pflugerville police Dutch Bros drive-thru incident, and a little Austin massage parlor news for the road. #MessyThoughts #GayPodcast #BlackPodcast #ComedyPodcast #PopCulture #LGBT
S2 · E29
May 6 · 43 min
"Respect Your Elders? Absolutely Not" - Messy Thoughts 29
MESSY THOUGHTS 29. Welcome back to Messy Thoughts! This week, Rihanna, Lady Gaga, stan culture, internet chaos, and “hills we’re willing to die on” all collide in one gloriously messy episode. BJ and LeBron spiral from AI-generated celebrity voices and TikTok memes into a full-blown celebration of Rihanna’s legendary hit catalog, the evolution of fan bases, and the golden age of MySpace customization. The conversation takes a deeper turn when they debate Billie Eilish’s controversial comments about eating meat and whether respecting your elders should really be unconditional. From rude club encounters with older gays to cult leaders, social media addiction, cell phones ruining society, and Ticketmaster’s bot problem, absolutely nothing is safe from discussion this week. Plus: Gaga’s “Runway,” YouTube comment wars, phone-call etiquette, Apple Watch peer pressure, and why the internet has made everyone way too comfortable in comment sections. As always, the thoughts are messy… but the bottoms are not. #MessyThoughts #BlackPodcast #GayPodcast #LGBT #PopCulture

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