
Canaries in the Treasury Coal Mine with Bill Dudley & Jonathan Payne | Markus Academy | 167-2
Follow the link for the full summary: https://markusacademy.substack.com/p/us-treasury-yields Link to sign up for the webinar series: https://markusacademy.substack.com/ Watch on Youtube: https://youtu.be/ZseTYM_A-60 Listen to part 1: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6HXuoDrSOO0dEmCxDyj0qf?si=49aaf2a925d346f0 Bill Dudley and Jonathan Payne joined Markus’ Academy for a two-part conversation on US Treasury yields. This is part 2. Dudley is a Senior Advisor to Princeton’s Griswold Center and a former President of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York. Payne is an Assistant Professor at Princeton. A summary in three bullets: ● The expectations hypothesis holds in general throughout US history except in the period of 1965-1990, so that the risk premium on government debt was time-varying only then. ● The fact that Microsoft’s yields have widened with respect to other AAA corporates or sovereigns suggests growing default risks around AI, not that the government may be crowding out AI investment ● R* has drifted up, from zero after the financial crisis to 1.2% today (as projected by the Fed) Timestamps: [0:00] R* has moved up, and we only learn it through its works [8:15] The expectations hypothesis and the stock-bond correlation [23:12] Is the government crowding out AI investment? [27:25] Hope is not a strategy The views expressed by Jonathan's coauthors in the papers discussed are those of the authors and do not necessarily reflect the views of the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System.