M&A Science

Kison Patel

M&A Science, hosted by Kison Patel (Founder & CEO of DealRoom), is your go-to podcast for mastering the art of mergers and acquisitions. Each week, Kison and his expert guests from leading brands like Xerox, FastLap, and Cisco dig deep into real-world M&A strategies, offering actionable insights to optimize your M&A practice.

Whether you're an experienced practitioner or new to the field, M&A Science provides practical advice on key topics like sourcing, due diligence, integration, divestitures, and more. With over 300 episodes, this podcast is the premier thought leadership resource designed to streamline your deal-making process.

Start listening today and visit mascience.com/podcast to access over 300 episodes. Brought to you by DealRoom, the leading M&A optimization platform used by the best M&A teams around the world

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426 episodes
Updated July 29

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Sep 11, 2020 · 58 min
Virtual Summit Recap: Positive Employee Experience is Key to Successful M&A
This is an interview that we had during our M&A virtual summit. Hosted by Jill Harrison, VP of Silverline venture, this interview is all about positive employee experience and how it impacts the success of M&A deals. Joining this discussion are our 3 speakers Cole Breidenbach- Head of M&A Integration at Okta, Josh Olson- Head of solution sales at the Americas at VMware, Amy Gannaway- Vice President, Global Compensation, Benefits and HRIS at VMware.
Sep 4, 2020 · 51 min
Virtual Summit Recap: Leading M&A with Integration
This interview is a rewind from our M&A virtual summit, which was held in June. The topic of discussion is leading M&A with integration, featuring our guest speakers Carlos Cesta, Corporate Development/M&A at Presidio and Javid Moosaji, global head of partner channels, platform solutions and transformation at Travelex, hosted by Stacy Hendricks, senior director at Alvarez and Marsal.
Aug 31, 2020 · 49 min
Winding a Business Down
Had a great interview last week with Ajit Sane, Director IT M&A at Agilent Technologies. Ajit is an M&A professional with multiple years of experience in leading acquisitions, integrations and divestitures. Our topic of discussion is how to wind a business down with minimal customer and people disruption. Some topics we covered include the planning behind a wind down, challenges you can expect, and protecting your assets. Ajit reminds the audience your company's biggest assets are your employees and your customers, so it's important to prioritize them.
Aug 27, 2020 · 51 min
Virtual Summit Recap: How to Modernize IMO
In this episode, we're sharing an interview we had in our M&A virtual conference that talks about how to modernize IMO, and building a synergy plan that actually delivers. This interview was hosted by Jonathan Shiery, Director at Guidehouse, with the guest panel Bill Clarkin, Head, M&A at BMO Financial Group. They discuss the seven principles you should follow in order to modernize IMO including flexibility, the importance of documentation, and setting a hard deadline. Learn from their extensive and impressive backgrounds and hear about experiences they've learned from that you can avoid.
Aug 24, 2020 · 1 hr
How To Plan a Divestiture From an Accounting Perspective
Last week was a great interview with Neil McNamara, Co-founder of Virtas Partners, which is an advisory firm specializing in preparing companies financially and operationally for M&A. The topic of discussion is how to plan divestiture from an accounting perspective. First thing that you should do is set up your deal perimeter. Clearly define what you're selling so that you can create the structure of the financial data needed to get the deal done. The complexity of the financial data varies depending on what type of exit you are doing. Carve outs can be very difficult because most of the time, you are selling something that has never been looked at as a standalone entity. Therefore, you will have to build a standalone financial statement without any financial historical information.
Aug 21, 2020 · 53 min
Virtual Summit Recap: Aligning Strategy with Your M&A Process
In case you didn't know, in the middle of this pandemic, we were able to pull off a successful M&A Virtual Conference. One of the sessions that we had was hosted by Ben Sutton, senior manager of corporate development at NCR corporation. This session was all about Aligning Strategy with Your M&A Process, featuring our two guest speakers: Scott Kaeser, executive VP of corporate development, US security services at GardaWorld and Sean Corcoran, VP of corporate development and M&A at Neustar, inc. It is absolutely critical that everyone understands the rationale behind the deal. In order for everyone to fully understand the strategy, you have to simplify things and let them know what you are trying to achieve. Especially on a very large team and the integration process takes years to finish, knowing the true north of that deal will keep teams aligned.
Aug 17, 2020 · 48 min
Making Joint Ventures Successful
Last week's interview was with Ivan Golubic, former VP Corporate Development at Goodyear. Prior to Goodyear, Ivan spent 10 years with Whirlpool, Deloitte and Ford in various finance and M&A roles. Our topic of discussion is how to make joint ventures more successful. To make joint ventures more successful, first you need to define what success means to you. Each party has their own rationale so you need to find your objectives. Hire a third party consultant to create a strict governance structure. And create an exit strategy so if things don't work out, both parties know what to do and preserves their relationship.
Aug 14, 2020 · 55 min
Summit Recap: Bridging the Gap Between Corporate Development and Integration
On this recap from the M&A Science Virtual Summit, Kison moderates a panel featuring Devorah Bertucci, Director of Corporate Development at Microsoft, and Kim Jones, Senior HR M&A Manager at Microsoft. They discuss the topic of how to bridge the gap between corporate development and integration functions. Making an acquisition successful and creating value for both sides isn't easy. There needs to be a partnership with corporate development and integration that drives negotiations to structure a deal for success. Topics covered in this panel include identifying early signs of a bad fit, balancing different company cultures, and how a role in corporate development impacts views on culture.
Aug 12, 2020 · 52 min
Summit Recap: Avoiding Valuation Surprises and Accounting for M&A Transactions
This is a session from our M&A Virtual Conference which was held on June 10 and 11. The topic of discussion is avoiding valuation surprises and accounting for M&A transactions, hosted by PJ Patel, co-CEO and Senior Managing Director at Valuation Research Corporation. Our guest for this interview is the Vice President of Corporate Strategy and M&A at Church and Dwight, Brian Buchert. Together, Brian and PJ discuss how to not overpay in deals, explain why valuing a company 10 years from now is a joke, and explain the effects of a long term recession. Learn tips on how to avoid common valuation mistakes, what the aftermath of COVID-19 may look like, and how valuation requires their own proprietary metric.
Aug 10, 2020 · 55 min
How Successful Diligence and Integration Planning Frames Successful M&A and Valuation
Last week's interview was with Erik Levy, Group Head Corp Dev and M&A at DMGT PLC. Erik has completed over 150 acquisitions, minority and venture investments and strategic partnerships. The topic of discussion is how successful Diligence and Integration planning frames success of M&A and valuation. Kison and Erik cover topics such as different approaches to valuation, causes of failures, and the keys to success.
Aug 7, 2020 · 52 min
Virtual Summit Recap: Virtualizing the People Experience During Integration
In this recorded session from our M&A Science Virtual Summit, Laura Lane, Chief of Staff at VMware, Kimberly Baird, Corporate Development Integration Leader at Cisco, and Dawn White, Manager of M&A Integration at Corning discuss how to virtualize the people experience during integration. They cover topics such as maintaining enthusiasm, boosting morale, and what tech tools they use during this unprecedented time.
Aug 5, 2020 · 32 min
Diligence in M&A
On this episode, Kison interviews Jeff Desroches, VP of Corporate Development at Atlas Copco, about how to identify issues during diligence in M&A. Jeff is a high-impact Corporate Development executive adept at identifying, developing and executing strategic growth opportunities. He's a resourceful problem solver with proven ability to manage large, cross-functional teams to drive complex commercial and technical programs with extensive experience in international dealmaking. Together, Jeff and Kison discuss approaches to take for deal negotiations, how to present an offer and prepare yourself for any responses you may get, and what the main priorities of diligence are. They also cover topics such as issues that commonly appear during diligence, how to deal with those issues, and Jeff's opinion on culture.
Aug 3, 2020 · 44 min
Navigating International Deals
In this interview, Kison discusses the topic of international transactions with Jeff Baker, EVP Mergers and Acquisitions at InComm. Jeff has extensive international experience and will be offering his advice on how to be sensitive towards other cultures and how to work with outside governments when completing a deal.
Jul 31, 2020 · 53 min
What is Rebadging and How it Works
Kison sits down with Sachin Kumar, Senior Director - M&A and Regional Lead for HR North America at Conduent, to discuss the topic of the not so famous process of Rebadging. Together they break down the process step by step and explain the use case. Some tips: Don't forget to get the HR team involved quickly. Without having an HR plan, focused job descriptions, and performance standards, rebadging can quickly turn into a big headache. Also, problems arise if Corp Dev was not informed because the business team doesn't know how to manage an asset deal. So try your best to keep Corp Dev in the loop especially when the deal is scaling.
Jul 29, 2020 · 1 hr 10 min
Assimilating Unique Cultures in M&A
On this episode, Kison speaks with Kim Jones, Senior HR M&A Manager at Microsoft. She conducts due diligence research and completes all HR-related integration activities as part of Microsoft's M&A programs. Together they discuss what company culture is, at what of the deal to consider it, and how to assess the company culture. Hear Kim's advice on identifying the early signs of a bad fit, how to minimize fear, and how to accommodate the target company's culture. She also gives insight as to what affects culture that you may not expect, the challenges that arise when assimilating different cultures, and what some non-negotiables are.
Jul 27, 2020 · 54 min
Preserving a Company's Value During Integration
In this episode, Kison interviews Dev Sirur, Director of M&A Integrations at Intel.nHe has spent over 23 years at Intel and worked on 40+ transactions over a 10 year period. Dev is a proven executive experienced in helping business leaders and executive management on M&A strategy and synergy drivers. Together they discuss preserving a company's value during integration and give advice on how not to annihilate the value creation during M&A. Learn how to retain value through M&A, how to adjust the integration process to fit your company's specific needs, and how to drive an efficient yet thorough due diligence process.
Jul 24, 2020 · 53 min
COVID-19's Impact on M&A
In this episode, Kison discusses the impact COVID-19 is having on M&A with Toby Tester, a Senior Consultant and Project Manager at BTD, Kevin Robbins a General Partner at Blue Delta Capital Partners and Co-Founder of Wolf Den Associates, and Fred Thiel, Chairman and Chief Advisor of Thiel Advisors, Inc. For this discussion, Kison wanted to bring in industry professionals to talk about market shifts, the impact this pandemic is having on closing deals, and if we're seeing any new deals arising because of COVID-19 we wouldn't be seeing otherwise.
Jul 15, 2020 · 53 min
Developing International Joint Ventures
On this episode, Kison and Ritch Schaafsma, VP of Corporate Development, Global Mergers and Acquisitions at General Motors, discuss the ins and outs of international joint ventures. Ritch is an accomplished and internationally seasoned Senior Corporate Development Executive, with over 15+ years of experience offering execution, valuation, strategy and restructuring expertise for driving multi-billion dollar growth transactions to C-level executives and Boards of Directors of Industry-leading manufacturers to meet their strategic objectives. In this podcast you will hear about Ritch's transition to working overseas, cultural challenges, and his favorite global transaction. Additionally, they discuss how to navigate national governments, what prompts an international joint venture, and what exactly the international joint venture process looks like. Please note the views expressed in this podcast do not reflect those of General Motors.
Jul 1, 2020 · 45 min
Building an Effective Internal Communication Plan for M&A
On this episode Kison speaks with Briana Elkington, Program Manager at VSP Global. Previously she was a Lead Project Manager at Oracle where she assembled a project management office responsible for the successful integration of acquired assets. She's led integration efforts for roughly 10 acquisitions throughout her career. Together they discuss how to build an effective internal communication plan for M&A. Briana goes in depth on how to create a communication plan, how to effectively distribute that communication plan, and how to approach an onboarding supplier. You'll learn how to deal with heavy resistance and what challenges you can expect to face during the process.
Jun 17, 2020 · 1 hr 14 min
Building a Corporate Development Function From Scratch
On this episode, Kison Patel speaks with Russ Hartz, VP of Corporate Development at ANSYS, Inc. / former VP of Corporate Development at SAP. He's an experienced Corporate Development professional with specific expertise in M&A and investments and post-merger integration. His role at ANSYS involves M&A strategy and deal sourcing, as well as managing transaction execution. Together, Kison and Russ discuss best practices he's learned at SAP, how he was able to bring those best practices over to ANSYS, guiding principles he focuses on during a transaction, and how to begin building an integration process at a company that doesn't have one. Russ also discusses how deal strategy affects company alignment and how he measures the success of a post-merger integration.