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Liz Dolan

After a long career in Marketing and Communications at companies like NIKE, OWN: The Oprah Winfrey Network and National Geographic, Liz Dolan is exploring what's next for her. Liz was also the long-time co-host of the award-winning podcast Satellite Sisters with her real-life sisters, so a new podcast seemed like a good way to do it! In Season 1, Liz is a Fellow at Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute and taking classes all over Stanford. The goal of this year is to reconnect with herself, connect with similarly distinguished fellows (aka late career folks), and connect with Future Liz. In Season 2, Future Liz has to put herself out there. What's the plan? Tune in every other week for new episodes of Lizness School where she explores new choices and keeps her curiosity alive with her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland, who's in the messy middle of her own transitions.

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S2 · E16
July 9 · 35 min
S2E16: Roberta Katz, Gen Z Explained and more Shrek
Today's guest is Roberta Katz, Liz's faculty advisor at Stanford last year. Roberta is so fun to talk to. She's a senior research scholar at the Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences at Stanford and a PhD Anthropologist. She is the author of the book Gen Z, Explained, a project she describes to Liz as a "second glass of wine idea." Roberta also holds as a law degree, and was previously the General Counsel of McCaw Cellular Corporation (now AT&T Wireless) and then of Netscape Corporation. From 2004 to 2017, she served under Stanford University Presidents John Hennessy and Marc Tessier-Lavigne as the Associate Vice president for Strategic Planning at Stanford. Sponsor: Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness HOMEWORK: For more on Roberta Katz and her research on Gen Z, here are links to her book and a couple of podcast interviews: Book: GenZ Explained - The Art of Living in a Digital Age by Roberta Katz, Sarah Ogilvie, Jane Shaw and Linda Woodhead Podcast Interview: 4 Quarter Lives https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d8r7TNxyxw4 The Minor Consult from Stanford Medicine Intergenerational anthropological field work recommended by Leah! Talk to a Gen Z or Millennial in your life, ask them what’s going on and how they feel about it. Tell them about the upheavals that you remember from growing up and how you felt and how you processed. Find an activity that occurs on a semi-regular basis that you can join, like a book club or art class or whatever, that puts you around folks of all ages. If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E22
June 11 · 32 min
S2E22: Leah defends her Shrek thesis
Today's the day Leah Sutherland finally presents her Shrek thesis. Is Shrek The Movie the voice of the millennial generation? And if so, why? At Lizness School, our academic standards are loose, but we do demand that your ideas be interesting AND entertaining. Liz will evaluate Leah's today. Our next episode will be our Season 2 Finale, a time of reflection by Liz on what, if anything, she's learned since her year at Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute. She just got home from her DCI reunion in Palo Alto and has thoughts. If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E21
May 28 · 40 min
S2E21: Refresher Class!
Every course has a refresher class at the end of the year so Lizness School does, too. Today you'll get a set-up for the end of season 2 and a refresher for all of Season 1. Liz and Leah review what they learned when it comes to community, purpose and wellness. After this Refresher, there are two more episodes to go this year - the Shrekisode and the Lizness School S2 Finale which Liz will do after she gets home from her Stanford DCI Reunion. Be sure to Follow or Subscribe. Until then: If you want to connect with Tara James about her vision to provide free college counseling to high school students who need it, email us at liznessschool@gmail.com and we will forward. We are still interested in YOUR side quests, so email us with the deets! Voice memos are welcome, too. liznessschool@gmail.com To listen to all Lizness School episodes on Spotify, go here. To listen to all Lizness School episodes on Apple Podcasts, go here. To listen to all Lizness School episodes on Art19, go here. If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E20
May 14 · 47 min
S2E20: Side Quests from Listeners!
Side Quests are a key pillar of Lizness School. Today on Season 2 Episode 20, 3 listeners share their side quest stories with us. Thank you to Corey DuBrowa, Mary Warwick and Tara James. More on Corey's music writing: Corey's current book “An Ideal For Living” https://hozacrecords.com/product/aifl/ Fast Company, Corey in “day gig” mode: https://www.fastcompany.com/user/coreydubrowa Rolling Stone, the most clicked-upon thing he's written in the music world:https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/live-report-north-by-northwest-110891/ Corey's new book coming out Spring 2026 is "Twelve Tunes From Urban Bohemia: Portland's Musical History in Song" For more on Mary's stand-up comedy, go here: https://www.marywarwickcomedy.com/ More on Mary Warwick at Erma Bombeck's Writer's Workshop If you want to connect with Tara James about her vision to provide free college counseling to high school students who need it, email us at liznessschool@gmail.com and we will forward. We are still interested in YOUR side quests, so email us with the deets! Voice memos are welcome, too. liznessschool@gmail.com THANK YOU to our podcast sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast at ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E19
April 30 · 26 min
S2E19: Moving Forward After Losing A Spouse
On today's Lizness School, we hear two stories from listeners whose big transitions were not by choice. First we talk to Kathy Douglass, who lost her husband Ron last fall. Since then, she's sold or packed or shipped everything and moved from Minnesota to a town in France she'd never even visited before. Then Liz reads from a message from Doris Matter, who shares what her life as a widow is like on what would have been her 50th wedding anniversary. There's no right way to adjust to losing a partner. There's only your way. Email us about your experience with a life-changing transition at liznessschool@gmail.com. Also today, update from Leah who ran her half marathon! Woo hoo! And an advance look at the next few episodes including our special Side Quests episode coming up next. Sponsor: THANK YOU to our podcast sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E18
April 16 · 34 min
S2E18: Liz and Leah do some spring cleaning
Today Liz and Leah refresh the big themes of Season 2 and refire their specific goals for the Spring Quarter of Lizness School. Time to FINISH STRONG. Plus, another call-out for listeners who want to share their own Side Quests on the podcast. Email us at liznessschool@gmail.com. Send Voice Memos if you can! Today we discuss two big themes and the podcast guests who helped us develop them. Relisten to the episodes linked below. Refirement: Excavating your heart and mind for goals, desires, wishes, and then setting clear benchmarks as you work toward those goals, desires, wishes. REFIREMENT works for anyone coming out of a transition who needs to get fired up about your life. Julie Dolan Lee Weinstein Katie Connor John Evans Kira Dales Gretchen Rubin Intergenerational exchange: Learning and sharing across generational lines Roberta Katz Jim Chi Phil Pizzo Lian Dolan Sponsor: THANK YOU to our podcast sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness Special Bonus instead of Homework: A link to Leah's astrologer Chani. If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E17
April 2 · 33 min
S2E17: Lee Weinstein's Intentional Life Plan asks the right questions
On today's episode, Lee Weinstein talks to Liz and Leah about how to think about creating an Intentional Life Plan. It starts with some digging. Ask yourself the big questions. Get yourself some craft paper + sticky notes. Go! See more on the process in Lee + Melinda's Workbook here. Look at a Life Plan here. More on Lee here. Also on this week's episode, we put out a LIZNESS SCHOOL CASTING CALL. Lizness School is looking for listeners who are working on a SIDE QUEST. We want to talk to you about it. It can be anything that is engaging you - creative project, community effort, long term plan, one-off adventure. Solo or group. You name it. What is your quest? Tell us about it! Email us at liznessschool@gmail.com or DM us on Instagram @liznessschool. Voice Memos encouraged! . Sponsor: Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness HOMEWORK: Step One: Uncover Your Life Wishes! Have a conversation about some of Lee's preliminary questions to kick off your own Intentional Life Planning. Lee also recommends you check out Bruce Feiler's book Life Is In The Transitions: Mastering Change At Any Age. If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E15
March 5 · 27 min
S2E15: Jim Chi, Shark Tank + Oregon Sports Angels
Jim Chi is President of Oregon Sports Angels. This week, two of the company founders that he advises are on Shark Tank. So exciting for these two college seniors with a patent in materials science! Jim can't share the result yet (we had to bleep put him out at one point) but Tanvi and Madhav sent a great audio message describing the behind-the-scenes vibe at the Shark Tank taping. Congratulations to Tanvi Gadamsetti and Madhav Aggarwal of BRCE. More here on LinkedIn. More here on BRCE Shop. WATCH SHARK TANK March 4, 10PM ET on ABC. On the episode, Jim talks about how after years as a leader in Product Management and Global Sourcing, he had not intended to focus on advising/mentoring/investing in new founders. Liz Dolan is also a founding member of Oregon Sports Angels and shares her perspective on advising young founders. Oregon Sports Angels is the only angel investing organization in the US devoted exclusively to sports. For HOMEWORK, Jim recommends Edge: Turning Adversity into Advantage by Laura Huang. Sponsor: Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $625 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E14
February 19 · 40 min
S2E14: Lian Dolan, GenX-er, Novelist and New Mother-In-Law
Today's guest is Lian Dolan, Liz's youngest sister who went through a major life stage change on New Year's Eve. She became a mother-in-law for the first time! She also hosted the wedding at her home, which gave her a chance to try out all of the "how to throw a wedding" tips she learned researching her latest novel, Abigail and Alexa Save the Wedding , a USA Today Bestseller. How did a real life wedding and transition to her first MIL gig compare to her fictional version? Listen and find out! Lian also shares tips today for how to start writing fiction for listeners who want get started. Abigail and Alexa Save The Wedding comes out in paperback in June. Lian’s the author of six bestselling novels, including The Sweeney Sisters, Helen of Pasadena and Elizabeth the First Wife, and Lost and Found in Paris. Her novel, The Marriage Sabbatical, was a USA Today Bestseller and a People Magazine Pick. For more than two decades, she hosted and produced Satellite Sisters, a top-rated podcast for women that she created with her four real sisters including Lizness School's Liz. Lian also has a Substack newsletter called Pep Talk that you can subscribe to here. Sponsor: Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E13
February 5 · 33 min
S2E13: Phil Pizzo Reimagines Transitions For All Of Us
Today Liz Dolan interviews Phil Pizzo, the founder of Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute, a deep thinker on transitions and lifelong learning. His career has taken him from pioneering pediatric oncologist to Dean of Stanford Medical School to rabbinical studies and chaplaincy training. He is a man who thinks a LOT about doing things differently. Sponsor: Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness HOMEWORK: More on Phil Pizzo, his work and his contributions: The Doctor’s Art podcast: An episode called Courage and Curiosity Discussion of what drew him to medicine in the first place with more about his work caring for seriously ill children and his pioneering work at the National Cancer Institute. Stanford Daily: Phil Pizzo moves from Stanford Medical School to rabbinical studies https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/10/from-stanford-to-the-rabbinate-phil-pizzo-moving-on/ The Atlantic The New Old Age by David Brooks. What a new life stage can teach us about how to find meaning and purpose. Corrected book title from last episode: Turn Right at Machu Picchu: Rediscovering The Lost City One Step At A Time from 2021. A fascinating and funny account of a journalist's travels through some of the world’s most majestic, historic, and remote landscapes. If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E12
January 22 · 35 min
S2E12: From LA Marathon to Machu Picchu
Wellness. At Lizness School that means health + fun. Liz and Leah both have wellness goals this year that include training for a big event. On today's first ever wellness episode, specific training plans are put in place. First Leah, an ultra runner and certified trainer herself, gives Liz her plan from now until September to be ready for physical activity at altitude in Peru with her Stanford DCI classmates. Then Leah lays out her own goals for the LA Marathon in March, her first race since she moved to Nashville. Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness . Homework: Read a good book about Macchu Picchu. That's Turn Right at Macchu Picchu: Rediscovering The Lost City One Step At A Time by travel writer Mark Adams. What happens when an adventure travel expert-who's never actually done anything adventurous-tries to re-create the original expedition to Machu Picchu? Suggest a good book about Peru and the Incas. Send liz any suggestions for some good reading before the Peru trip. Email us at liznessschool@gmail.com Listen to Dr. Zeke Emanuel talk about his new wellness book where he stresses the importance of social connection and interaction along with all the other usual stuff. Here's a good extended interview about "Eat Your Ice Cream: Six Simple Rules for a Long and Healthy Life," on CBS Sunday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsoVhSks35U. Here's a link to the book. If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E11
January 8 · 38 min
S2E11: Memoir Writing with John Evans, The Values Bridge
Today's episode starts with a conversation with John Evans, a Lecturer in Nonfiction in the Creative Writing Department at Stanford University. John was Liz's memoir writing teacher during her year as a Fellow in Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute. Their conversation is about why people get interested in memoir writing and why being in a memoir writing group can be so meaningful. John leads groups and workshops through Memoir Mentors His two published memoirs are Young Widower: A Memoir (University of Nebraska Press, 2014), and Should I Still Wish: A Memoir. (University of Nebraska Press, 2017) In the second half of the episode, Liz and Leah discuss what they learned about themselves by using The Values Bridge, an assessment tool created by Suzy Welch of the NYU Stern School of Business. Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness Homework: More about John's writing: John Evans Author Page Recommended Memoirs: Arthur Ashe, Days of Grace: A Memoir. Arthur Ashe's poignant memoir was co-written with Arnold Rampersad and published posthumously in 1993. Katherine Graham, Personal History. Pulitzer Prize 1998. The fascinating story of the woman who changed American history running The Washington Post. Michelle Zauner, Crying In H Mart. A 2021 memoir by Zauner of the band Japanese Breakfast about her Korean-American family and identity. Other recommendations from John Evan’s syllabus: Dani Shapiro, Inheritance Annie Dillard, Living Like Weasels Samuel Wilson Fussell, Muscle - Confessions of an Unlikely Bodybuiilder The Values Bridge: Suzy Welch Becoming You book and newsletter. Assessment Tool developed by Suzy Welch: The Values Bridge If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E10
Dec 18, 2025 · 34 min
S2E10: Liz and Leah Review Their Goals
On today's episode, Liz and Leah review the goals they each set at the beginning of the school year. BUT FIRST, a listener supplies our searched-for alternative word for retirement. Tune in to hear it. At the end of the episode, we have an assignment for listeners to execute over the holiday break. Our first episode in 2026 will include our experience taking Suzy Welch's Values Bridge Assessment. You can do it too. take it here. We'll be back on January 8th to discuss the Values Bridge and interview Stanford Memoir Writing teacher John Evans. Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E9
Dec 4, 2025 · 31 min
S2E9: Kira Dales and Stroke Recovery
Today's episode is inspired by a letter we received from listener Laura Tiberi asking us to consider how life choices can be different for "those who are faced with significant transitions as a result of medical illness or injury." Laura was "retired by leukemia", has experienced two stem cell transplants and "is 3 1/2 years old in transplant years." We speak to Kira Dales, a fellow Fellow of Liz's at Stanford last year, who tells us of her life since a brain tumor and stroke. Her story includes physical, communication, cognitive and emotional recovery over the last 6 years. Kira Dales on Stanford DCI site and LinkedIn. Homework: Kira recommends Between Two Kingdoms: A Memoir Of A Life Interrupted by Suleika Jaouad. Here is Suleika Jaouad's substack Creative Alchemy: The Isolation Journals. Here is an interview on CBS Sunday Morning with Suleika Jaouad and her husband Jon Batiste. Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E8
Nov 20, 2025 · 35 min
S2E8: Happiness Bully Gretchen Rubin Gives Advice
Today, Liz Dolan gets advice about advice-giving from Gretchen Rubin, host of the new advice podcast Since You Asked, co-hosted with psychotherapist + author Lori Gottlieb. Gretchen is a seven-time New York Times bestselling author who studies happiness, habits, and human nature. She is also the co-host of the award-winning, top-ranked podcast Happier with Gretchen Rubin, and has more than 1.4 million subscribers to her “Five Things Making Me Happy” weekly newsletter. Information on her award-winning Happier™ app here. More at gretchenrubin.com Follow Gretchen: Instagram – Facebook – LinkedIn Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness Homework: Read about the work of Suzy Welch, Professor at NYU's Stern School of Business and creator of Becoming You The Suzy Welch Values Quiz Suzy Welch's The Values Bridge If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E7
Nov 6, 2025 · 34 min
S2E7: Ken Stern on Social Connections and Longevity
Ken Stern visits Lizness School today to talk to Liz Dolan about his new book Healthy To 100: How Strong Social Ties Leads to Long Lives. Ken is the Founder and Chair of the Longevity Project, which he launched in collaboration with the Stanford Center on Longevity. He hosts the podcast Century Lives, also part of the Stanford Center on Longevity. Read Ken's newsletter Three Not-So-Bad Things on Aging and Longevity. Subscribe for free to the Stanford Center on Longevity Magazine. Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness Homework: Liz's story about total darkness retreat: Would you ever do this? https://www.nytimes.com/2025/10/21/magazine/dark-retreat-meditation-sensory-deprivation-spirituality.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Aaron Rogers Sky Cave Retreat https://www.cnn.com/2023/02/26/us/aaron-rodgers-darkness-retreat-wellness-ctpr Leah's story about bar with no phones - https://dc.eater.com/restaurant-news/163917/no-phones-bar-hush-harbor-unplugged-opening-h-street#:~:text=Hush%20Harbor%2C%20a%20month-old,small%20watering%20hole%20(1337%20H If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E6
Oct 23, 2025 · 36 min
S2E6: From Sue Fleishman to Campbell Linden Romance Novelist!
It's never too late to totally switch it up. Just ask Sue Fleishman who went from being a Communications Guru at big entertainment companies like Universal, Amblin and Warner Brothers to rebranding herself Campbell Linden, Romance Novelist! On today's episode, she shares her story including a juicy Hollywood bad-behavior- behind-the-scenes tale and how she came up with her nom de plume. Millennial Mentor Leah is jealous and tests out her own potential pen name. To follow Campbell Linden and her books: Buy the latest Settle For More on amazon. Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/AuthorCampbellLinden/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/campbelllindenauthor/ Tiktok: https://www.tiktok.com/@campbelllinden Website: https://campbelllinden.com/ Check out the trailer for Robert Evan's film The Kids Stays In The Picture Article in Stanford Longevity Magazine RX Creativity for Health Life and Fun by Laura Holson featuring Sue Fleishman. Novel by Lian Dolan about GenX couple that Liz mentions: The Marriage Sabbatical Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness HOMEWORK Where to go for your own creative inspiration. Sue recommends: Find a class at Grub Street Leah recommends: Stephen King On Writing: A Memoir of the Craft. Anne Lamott. Bird By Bird. Liz recommends: Mr. Scorcese 5 part doc by Rebecca Miller. A new series on Apple TV + about Martin Scorcese and his life's work. Love, Gilda. Documentary about Gilda Radnor. Weaving together recently discovered audiotapes, interviews with her friends, rare home movies and diaries read by modern day comediennes (including Amy Poehler). If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E5
Oct 9, 2025 · 42 min
S2E5: Greg Burke on Career Curves and the Pope
On today's episode, Liz Dolan talks to Greg Burke, a fellow '24 Fellow at Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute, about his path from growing up in St. Louis through print and television journalism to working at the Vatican serving as Pope Francis' chief spokesperson. Talk about career curves! Greg is currently teaching Communications at the IESE Business School in Barcelona Here's Greg Burke's LinkedIn profile. Here's information about the new board he serves on: Mary's Meals. Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness In honor of Robert Redford, we introduce our first Lizness School Intergenerational Movie Challenge. We both watched Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid https://www.amazon.com/Butch-Cassidy-Sundance-Paul-Newman/dp/B004EERGHS Video: Life of Redford sent in by listener Sandy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1gCPtJg698 Info about Paul Newsman's camp for seriously ill kids: The Hole In The Wall Gang Camp https://www.holeinthewallgang.org Info about The Sundance Institute founded by Robert Redford https://www.sundance.org Video: Redford talks about the getting the movie. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M2npjQBRtc Challenge for our next episode: Shrek. Homework: Liz recommends: Sanjay Gupta’s Chasing Life episode in conversation with another neuroscientist Susan Greenfield about the long-term effect on our brain of living life on screens. https://www.cnn.com/audio/podcasts/chasing-life/episodes/b8a997f4-37bb-11ef-8219-9f34dfc7bb1c Is delegating tasks and even thinking to digital devices making us lose our minds, or at least some brain function? Dr. Sanjay Gupta and neuroscientist Baroness Susan Greenfield, Oxford University professor and author of “Mind Change: How Digital Technologies Are Leaving Their Mark on Our Brains,” discuss and debate how screen time might be impacting our human connections and own cognitive abilities. Plus, Greenfield gives us three ways to reclaim our digital independence. 'Because of my age, I'm used to hugging people and living in three dimensions and using all five senses and interpreting body language. Because of that, I feel very sad when people seem to communicate, or put a premium mainly on how many so-called friends they've got, when really the friends are like some kind of Greek chorus who comment and need to be appeased and impressed and so on. So I think I'm worried a little bit about this generation, perhaps, that are uncomfortable in face-to-face communication because it's not an easy thing to do. And, the less you do it, the more aversive it becomes. Leah recommends: Sean Illing's podcast The Gray Area takes a philosophy minded look at culture, technology and ideas. This episode asks the question: Do you have moral ambition? https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-gray-area-with-sean-illing/id1081584611 We’re told from a young age to achieve. Get good grades. Get into a good school. Get a good job. Be ambitious about earning a high salary or a high-status position. Some of us love this endless climb. But lots of us, at least once in our lives, find ourselves asking, "What’s the point of all this ambition?"Historian and author Rutger Bregman doesn’t think there is a point to that kind of ambition. Instead, he wants us to be morally ambitious, to measure the value of our achievements based on how much good we do, by how much we improve the world. In this episode, Bregman speaks with guest host Sigal Samuel about how to know if you’re morally ambitious, the value of surrounding yourself with like-minded people, and how to make moral ambition fashionable. If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E4
Sep 25, 2025 · 35 min
S2E4: Julie Dolan on Being More Julie, Making + Keeping Friends
On today's episode, Liz's older sister Julie Dolan on David Brooks' theory of resume virtues vs eulogy virtues, her expertise at making and keeping friends plus unsolicited advice for Leah about moving. Gotta get rid of the boxes. Also drifting vs vibing. Julie's recommendation: The Road To Character by David Brooks Lizness School Movie Challenge - An Intergenerational Cultural Exchange. For the next episode, Liz and Leah will watch Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid. Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness Homework: For listeners who are interested in learning more about Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute or potentially applying, applications are open now through December 1 for the Class entering Fall 2026. There are 2 Virtual Information sessions this fall. More info and registration here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScnnMvgAXt0AWL6sP5FtkaKjKbOB_X8rgn2ai6p9jms3N9PpQ/viewform Interested in Corporate Alumni Networks? More here. Leah's YouTube recommendation: How To Stop WorryingWhether Or Not They Like You If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
S2 · E3
Sep 11, 2025 · 37 min
S2E3: Stanford DCI Exec Director Katie Connor on Mentoring
Mentorship and Intergenerational Exchange: On this episode, Liz Dolan interviews Katie Connor, Executive Director of Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute, to hear about her career, what it's like to mentor people at various ages and how she almost flunked mindfulness. Season 1 of Lizness School is all about Liz's experience as a Fellow in this program last year. Katie Connor bio on Stanford website. https://dci.stanford.edu/katie-connor-executive-director/ Katie Connor bio on LinkedIn. https://www.linkedin.com/in/katieconnor/ For more information on The Magic Boost, the mentorship and professional development program Liz co-founded and helps run for young content creators in sports media, view this video: https://www.themagicboost.com/ For a list of the Magic Boosters and links to their work, go here: https://www.themagicboost.com/boosters During 2025 World Athletics Championship from Tokyo, follow these feeds from Boosters. Anderson Emerole for @citiusmag on Instagram and The Final Leg on YouTube Tiara Williams on Real Talk with Tee on Instagram Jillian Michales for On Her Turf/NBC Sports @instagram Demitra Carter on Instagram Serenity Douglas on YouTube and Instagram Johnny Zhang photography on Instagram and for @citiusmag Alex Andrei videography and photography for Team USA and on @alexandtrack on Instagram Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness Homework: For more thoughts on mentorship, check out these curated lists of TED Talks on the subject: 1. GrowthMentor's "10 Best TED Talks on Mentorship" This comprehensive list covers talks from 2014-2019, featuring speakers like Austin Stanford, Kenneth Ortiz, Kimberly Griffin, and others who approach mentorship from diverse angles including entrepreneurship, workplace dynamics, and personal development 10 Best TED Talks on Mentorship - GrowthMentor 2. TED's Official "How to be a Good Mentor" Playlist TED has created an official curated playlist specifically focused on helping people "bring out the best in people" and guide others to succeed How to be a good mentor | TED Talks 3. Motivation Matter's List Features Kenneth Ortiz's talk on providing meaningful mentorship, emphasizing that mentorship requires significant time, investment, and thorough planning Best Mentorship TED Talks to Motivate Your Team - Get a Dose of Inspiration | Motivation Matter If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows. Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild. To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here. For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠ For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠ Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠ On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠. Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn. To email Lizness School with your own voicememos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠ Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠liznessschool@gmail.com ⁠ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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