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Many Christians love their LGBT+ friends and want to engage well with issues of sexuality and identity, but aren’t sure how to do it. Join the Living Out team and guests as they tackle some of the most frequently asked questions and seek to navigate the choppy cultural waters with compassion and clarity. If you’re interested in a Christian perspective on sexuality, singleness, gender and identity and want to hear real stories from same-sex attracted Christians, this is the podcast for you. Hosted and produced by the Living Out team.

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  • Thursday · 35 min

    Featured: Andrew's Favourite Episode - 13 Guests, 5 Questions (Meet the Authors #14)

    Andrew tells us about his favourite episode from our back catalogue. This episode from our first Meet The Authors series features thirteen guests giving their answers to five quickfire questions. We'll hear what advice our guests would give to their younger selves, what resources they recommend, how churches have been particularly helpful, what's been good about being same-sex attracted or being single, and top tips for deepening healthy intimacy in friendship. Resources mentioned 7 Myths About Singleness Sam Allberry Is God Anti Gay? Sam Allberry Breaking the Marriage Idol Kutter Callaway The Center for Faith, Sexuality & Gender A Change of Affection Becket Cook Redeeming Singleness Barry Danylak Born Again This Way Rachel Gilson Jesus, Lover of My Soul Julian Hardyman Washed and Waiting Wesley Hill The Single Issue Al Hsu The Prodigal God Tim Keller Living Out Identity in Christ conference The Plausibility Problem Ed Shaw (Published in the US as 'Same-Sex Attraction and the Church') Single Friendly Church People To Be Loved Preston Sprinkle Two Views on Homosexuality, the Bible, and the Church Preston Sprinkle Single-Minded Kate Wharton Understanding Sexual Identity Mark Yarhouse

  • August 27 · 33 min

    Featured: Ed's Favourite Episode - Talking with Friends (Friendship #4)

    Ed tells us about his favourite episode from our back catalogue. So far in this series we’ve talked about why we need friendships and the difference Jesus makes to them, but what does that look like in reality? Adam and Ashleigh each sit down with a friend to talk about how their friendship has brought them closer to God and taught them more about him, and share their reflections on what has helped their friendships to thrive. Why not share this episode with a friend and let them know how much you appreciate them? Resources mentioned and related Friendship podcast series The Radiant Dawn Tom Parsons From Glory Into Glory Tom Parsons Kaleidoscope Friendship and Intimacy (Friendship #3)

  • S15 · E7
    August 13 · 34 min

    When People Have Questions (Flourishing #7)

    When you begin to tell people about your experiences of same-sex attraction or your decision to obey what God says about sexuality, you’re likely to receive questions. Andy is joined by our old friend Anne and our new friend Laurence to talk about their experiences here. What’s it like for us as same-sex attracted Christians when people ask us those questions? How might we begin to answer them? Resources mentioned and related A Better Love Should I Go to a Gay Wedding?, Anne Witton Shouldn't We Expect Sexuality to Change? (Engaging Objections #6), Living Out Podcast What's Wrong With a Permanent, Faithful, Stable Same-Sex Sexual Relationship?, Ed Shaw Isn't Love Good? (Engaging Objections #5), Living Out Podcast Podcast Series: The Plausibility Problem, Living Out Podcast How Can You Live Life Without Sex?, Ed Shaw What Is Sexuality For?, Ed Shaw What Does Sexuality Have to Do With the Gospel?, Ashleigh Hull What Would Jesus Do? Ask Questions!, Ed Shaw For more common questions, have a look at our Explore Questions page and check out our previous podcast series Questions No One Wants to Answer and Engaging Objections.

  • S15 · E6
    July 30 · 38 min

    When You Leave a Same-Sex Relationship (Flourishing #6)

    Ashleigh is joined by our old friend Nat and our new friend Angela to talk about what leaving a same-sex relationship was like for them. Whether you’re considering leaving a same-sex relationship in order to follow Jesus, or you’re wanting to support someone in that situation, this conversation has something for you. Resources recommended and related Nat and Matt: Mixed-Orientation Marriage (Different Stories #9), Living Out Podcast Support to Grieve, Anne Witton What's Wrong With a Permanent, Faithful, Stable Same-Sex Sexual Relationship?, Ed Shaw What If a Gay, Married Couple, With Children, Become Christians?, Ed Shaw

  • S15 · E5
    July 16 · 31 min

    When You've Had Enough (Flourishing #5)

    Ed and Adam are joined by our new friend Tom to talk about the times when their experiences of same-sex attraction make them want to give up on their faith. What keeps them going in these times? Resources mentioned and related Psalms 63 and 73 (Bible Encouragements #3), Living Out Podcast The Intimacy Deficit by Ed Shaw Exploring the Intimacy Deficit, Living Out Podcast

  • S15 · E4
    July 2 · 34 min

    When You Try To Change (Flourishing #4)

    Andy is joined by Jeanette and Simon to talk about whether we should expect a change in our same-sex attractions as followers of Jesus. They share ways they’ve sought change in the past, how they view it now, and how others have helped them. Resources mentioned and related Living Faith Simon: Reconciling Sexuality, Faith and Ministry (Different Stories #1), Living Out Podcast Shouldn't We Expect Sexuality to Change? (Engaging Objections #6), Living Out Podcast 2 Corinthians 12 and Revelation 5 (Bible Encouragements #2), Living Out Podcast What's Good About Struggling With Same-Sex Attraction?, Anne Witton Getting God’s Perspective by Andrew Bunt Resources on Conversion Therapy, Living Out Team

  • S15 · E3
    June 18 · 36 min

    When You Feel Alone (Flourishing #3)

    Andrew is joined by Jeanette and Jon to share their stories of same-sex attraction and faith. They’re honest about their experiences of loneliness, talk about how singleness and childlessness can come with grief as well as joys, and consider what we can do about loneliness. Resources mentioned and related Jeanette’s story and writing Kaleidoscope Friendship and Intimacy (Friendship #3), Living Out Podcast Strengthening Friendships (Friendship #5), Living Out Podcast Youth Leader Network Are We Just Playing at Being Family?, Ashleigh Hull More Living Out resources about loneliness

  • S15 · E2
    June 4 · 35 min

    When You're Tempted (Flourishing #2)

    Andrew is joined by our old friend Dan and our new friend Ruth as they share their stories of same-sex attraction and talk all about the realities of sexual temptation. What helps us to avoid temptation? What about when we give in to it? And what can we learn from how Jesus faced temptation? Resources mentioned & related Meet the Authors #21 - Dan Reid I Used to Identify As a Sinner. Now I’m Learning Who I Really Am., Dan Reid Unwanted: How Sexual Brokenness Reveals Our Way to Healing, by Jay Stringer (see our book review here and listen to Jay on an episode of ‘The One Conversation’ podcast here) How Can I Find Freedom from the Weight of Sexual Sin?, Dan Reid Handling Sexual Urges (Part 1), Jo Johnson Handling Sexual Urges (Part 2), Jo Johnson The Desires That Tempt You May Not Be Your Deepest Desires, Andrew Bunt What Are Your Desires Telling You? (Could It Be Something Different Than You Think?), Amy Riordan Getting God’s Perspective by Andrew Bunt

  • S15 · E1
    May 21 · 35 min

    When You Come Out (Flourishing #1)

    Coming out (sharing with someone about your experience of sexuality) is not always easy, whether you're the person sharing or the one hearing about it. Laura and Paul join Ashleigh to talk about what coming out was like for them. We hear about the first people they told, the things that have been helpful for them in these conversations, and what it's like to share so publicly about such a personal experience. Paul also shares some thoughts on doing all of this when you're married. Resources mentioned & related Laura: Good Friendship (Different Stories #6) Paul: Responding to Our Desires (Different Stories #5) Should All Same-Sex Attracted Christians Come Out?, Vaughan Roberts Coming Out – Some Advice for Christians, Andrew Bunt How Should I Respond When a Christian Comes Out to Me?, The Living Out Team Subscribe to the Living Out podcast

  • May 7 · 40 sec

    Series 15 Trailer: Flourishing as a Same-Sex Attracted Christian

    As Christians who experience same-sex attraction, how can we flourish? In this series we'll talk about coming out, answering people's questions, feeling alone, and more. Whether you experience same-sex attraction yourself or you want to support someone who does, this series will have something to comfort, challenge and encourage you.

  • April 23 · 35 min

    Featured: Jo's Favourite Episode - Robert: Real Love (Different Stories #8)

    This episode contains discussion of childhood sexual abuse, depression, and suicidal thoughts. Jo tells us about her favourite episode from our back catalogue - one that shows how God sometimes breaks into our lives in the most unlikely circumstances. Robert was sexually abused by a teacher at school, forced into becoming a Christian, and went on to marry a woman and lead a church – all while being same-sex attracted and not truly knowing Jesus. From there things fell apart, and Robert began living as an out gay man. Only later would he come to know the love of God for the first time, and give his life to Christ. Resources mentioned and related If you’re affected by any of the issues raised in this episode, please reach out to someone you trust. In the UK, you can also contact Samaritans for support – call 116 123 free, 24 hours a day. Samaritans also provide a full list of organisations you can contact for advice on a range of issues, including abuse and mental health. You can find that here.

  • April 9 · 32 min

    Featured: Andy's Favourite Episode - Is It Just Me? (Explore Questions #5)

    Andy tells us about his favourite episode from our back catalogue. For many people, same-sex attraction can feel very isolating. Ed, Andy and Anne discuss how, over time, they felt less alone and were able to get support from friends and church. We share some advice for those just becoming aware of their sexualities and wanting support, and we look at helpful things churches can do. And we also learn about Ed's imaginary wife. Resources mentioned Washed and Waiting by Wesley Hill True Freedom Trust Living Out stories Should A Church Start a Group for Same-Sex Attracted Members? Charlie Skrine What Does Good Pastoral Support Look Like? (Part 1) Andy Robinson What Does Good Pastoral Support Look Like? (Part 2) Andy Robinson What Does Good Pastoral Support Look Like? (Part 3) Andy Robinson Living Out Church Audit

  • March 26 · 35 min

    Featured: Ashleigh's Favourite Episode - Misstep 9: 'Suffering is to be avoided' (The Plausibility Problem #9)

    Ashleigh tells us about her favourite episode from our back catalogue. In the last of our series going through the missteps identified in The Plausibility Problem by Ed Shaw, we discussed whether suffering can and should be avoided. We shared our own painful experiences and examined why some argue that the suffering of celibate same-sex attracted Christians is a reason to abandon traditional biblical teaching on sexual ethics. We went on to show that suffering is a normal part of following Jesus, whether you're gay or straight, single or married. We looked at some of the reasons why God allows us to suffer and the joys and benefits that we receive precisely because we suffer. We also looked at practical things that help us when we're struggling and ways that we can use our pain to love and serve others. Resources mentioned and related The Plausibility Problem Ed Shaw The Plausibility Problem: A Review Steve Ward Support to Grieve Anne Witton You Only Live Once. Really? Adam Curtis Kitchen Floors and Gethsemane Andy Robinson What's Good About Struggling With Same-sex Attraction? Anne Witton Childlessness Anne Witton Anne and Abby on Their Community House Anne Witton Sharing Life Together Anne Witton Confronting Christianity Rebecca McLaughlin Dark Clouds, Deep Mercy Mark Vroegop

  • S14 · E7
    March 12 · 29 min

    What About Christians Who Affirm Same-Sex Marriage? (Engaging Objections #7)

    It can be so painful when we disagree with those we love about this. What do we do when a friend changes their mind on faith and sexuality, or when our church changes its position on same-sex marriage? Does 1 Corinthians 5 contain any wisdom that we can apply here? Ashleigh, Ed and Andrew talk it through. Resources mentioned and related Healthy Spirituality | Holiness and Church Discipline | James Lawrence | 1 Corinthians 5 The Art of Disagreeing: How to Keep Calm and Stay Friends in Hard Conversations by Gavin Ortlund Does the Bible Really Condemn Loving Same-Sex Relationships? (Engaging Objections #2), Living Out Podcast Why Can't Christians Agree to Disagree?, Sam Allberry How Important Is All This? (Explore Questions #6), Living Out Podcast How Can We Have Good Discussions With Christians Who Disagree With Us on Sexuality?, Andrew Goddard

  • S14 · E6
    February 26 · 33 min

    Shouldn't We Expect Sexuality to Change? (Engaging Objections #6)

    Can sexuality change? Should we seek to change it? Andrew, Ashleigh and Adam talk it through. Adam also shares his journey towards openness to dating a woman, despite his enduring experience of same-sex attraction. Resources mentioned and related Research relating to sexual fluidity: What Does Heterosexuality Mean? Same-Sex Attraction, Behaviors, and Discomfort Among Self-identified Heterosexual Young Adults from Spain, Archives of Sexual Behaviour Lisa Diamond on sexual fluidity of men and women, Cornell University Individual fluidity of sexual identity in Stockholm County, 2010 to 2021, European Journal of Public Health Sexual Orientation Identity Mobility in the United Kingdom: A Research Note, Duke University Press Population Trends and Individual Fluidity of Sexual Identity Among Stockholm County Residents, JAMA Network Who Counts as Sexually Fluid? Comparing Four Different Types of Sexual Fluidity in Women, Archives of Sexual Behaviour Sexual Identity Fluidity Among Sexual Minorities: Gender Differences in Determinants of Fluidity and Health-Related Outcomes, Journal of Homosexuality Stories of mixed-orientation marriage: Sean’s story Katherine: The Power and Beauty of Stories (Different Stories #3), Living Out Podcast Paul: Responding to Our Desires (Different Stories #5), Living Out Podcast Nat and Matt: Mixed-Orientation Marriage (Different Stories #9), Living Out Podcast Other resources: Resources on Conversion Therapy Is Same-sex Attraction Inherently Sinful? (Questions No One Wants To Answer #4), Living Out Podcast Is Exorcism Ever An Appropriate Response to Same-Sex Attraction?, Andy Robinson Born Again This Way by Rachel Gilson Gay Girl, Good God by Jackie Hill Perry An Impossible Marriage by Laurie & Matt Krieg And if this series is raising more questions than it answers, ask us those questions here!

  • S14 · E5
    February 12 · 31 min

    Isn't Love Good? (Engaging Objections #5)

    Ashleigh, Adam and Andy explore what real love is, and consider how we can align ourselves to Scripture’s truth in a world that preaches something different. We also think about the question, 'My friend is so much happier now that they’re in a same-sex relationship – isn't that a good thing?' Resources mentioned and related Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?: Examining 10 Claims about Scripture and Sexuality by Rebecca McLaughlin – in particular Chapter 10, 'A God of Love Can’t Be Against Relationships of Love' Friendship, Living Out Podcast series What Is It Teaching You?, Ashleigh Hull A Better Love edited by Ed Shaw Misstep 5 - 'Sex is where true intimacy is found' (The Plausibility Problem #5), Living Out Podcast And if this series is raising more questions than it answers, ask us those questions here!

  • S14 · E4
    January 29 · 33 min

    Isn't This About Justice? (Engaging Objections #4)

    Is the Bible’s teaching unjust or unfair to same-sex attracted Christians like us? Andrew, Ed and Andy talk through the intellectual and the emotional sides of this, considering how this objection has looked for us personally as well as how we might respond to it. Resources mentioned and related Dominion: The Making of the Western Mind by Tom Holland The Air We Breathe: How We All Came to Believe in Freedom, Kindness, Progress, and Equality by Glen Scrivener Purposeful Sexuality by Ed Shaw Explore Questions: Isn’t God Being Unfair? Isn’t God Being Unfair? (Explore Questions #4), Living Out Podcast Is Same-Sex Marriage An Issue of Equality?, Andrew Bunt And if this series is raising more questions than it answers, ask us those questions here!

  • S14 · E3
    January 15 · 33 min

    Doesn't This View Do More Harm Than Good? (Engaging Objections #3)

    How has this view harmed us, or people around us? Has it done us any good? And does it do the ultimate harm of keeping people from coming to know Jesus? Andy, Ashleigh and Adam explore the harm and the good of the traditional Christian sexual ethic. Resources mentioned and related Isn’t the Christian Sexual Ethic Harmful and Repressive? (Explore Questions #2), Living Out Podcast Does Christian Teaching Cause LGBT Mental Health Problems? (Questions No One Wants To Answer #5), Living Out Podcast Podcast Series: The Plausibility Problem, Living Out Podcast Resources on Conversion Therapy Kaleidoscope Does allowing same-sex marriage result in church decline? Here's what the numbers show, Ian Paul UK Church Decline and Progressive Ideology, John Hayward The Case Against the Sexual Revolution by Louise Perry And if this series is raising more questions than it answers, ask us those questions here!

  • January 1 · 34 min

    New Year Special 2026

    In this special episode, featuring the occasional serious answer and several shameless plugs, the Living Out team reflect on 2025 and look ahead to 2026. We hope you enjoy seeing in the new year with us! The questions What’s one moment in 2025 that you’re grateful for? What habit or practice have you found helpful in the last year? Who has inspired you this year? What book, film, or song has shaped your thinking? What’s one challenge that you overcame this year, or something brave that you did? Describe your faith journey in 2025 in one word. What has surprised you about yourself this year? What’s one hope or goal you have for 2026? Resources mentioned and related Kaleidoscope The Intimacy Deficit by Ed Shaw Unfollow by Megan Phelps-Roper The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling John Piper’s series on Hebrews John Piper’s series on Romans The Psalms: A Christ-Centered Commentary by Christopher Ash The Horse and His Boy by C. S. Lewis The Last Battle by C. S. Lewis Pray Without Ceasing by Wendell Berry (found in Fidelity: Five Stories) The ‘film with some kind of musical theme’ that Andy considers himself brave for enduring

  • S14 · E2
    Dec 18, 2025 · 30 min

    Does the Bible Really Condemn Loving Same-Sex Relationships? (Engaging Objections #2)

    Does the Bible actually prohibit same-sex sexual relationships? And if it does, are those prohibitions binding on us today? Ashleigh, Andy and Andrew talk through some of the arguments here, the things we can agree or empathise with in those arguments, and why ultimately we believe in the historic Christian sexual ethic. Resources mentioned and related Did Jesus Affirm Same-Sex Sexual Relationships?, Andrew Bunt People to be Loved: Why Homosexuality is Not Just an Issue by Preston Sprinkle Does the Bible Support Same-Sex Marriage?: 21 Conversations From a Historically Christian View by Preston Sprinkle Why Do Christians Trust the Bible?, Andrew Bunt Can Christians Trust What the Bible Says on the Topic of Sex?, Andrew Bunt Does the Bible Affirm Same-Sex Relationships?: Examining 10 Claims about Scripture and Sexuality by Rebecca McLaughlin What Does Sexuality Have to Do With the Gospel?, Ashleigh Hull And if this series is raising more questions than it answers, ask us those questions here!

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