Listen Then Speak
Jahmaal Marshall
Our desire is to sit and chop it up with anyone from best selling authors to successful entrepreneurs and get a sense of the highs and lows of their journey. We want to delve past the surface to see how their culture, faith, career choices, and mental health have brought them to their current destination and broach topics that will provoke both thought and action in listeners.
- 25 episodes
- weekly
- Avg 30 min
- English
- #92Thursday · 49 min
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#91September 9 · 25 minWise as Serpents: How to Deal With the Snakes in Your Life
You already know their name. The colleague who smiles in the meeting and sharpens the knife in the hallway. The friend who only shows up when you're winning. The leader who mistakes your loyalty for a leash. You've felt the bite, and then spent months telling yourself you imagined the fangs. In this solo episode, Jahmaal names what most people are too polite to say out loud: there are snakes in your life, personally and professionally, and pretending otherwise isn't grace; it's self-abandonment
- LT#90August 31 · 19 min
Why Rejection Is Protection: When God Closes a Door, Stay Out of the Room
High-achievers are trained to treat every "no" as a "not yet", but that chasing is exactly what's burning you out. In this episode, Jahmaal Marshall reframes rejection as protection, unpacks the difference between being rejected and being removed, and shows why some of the rooms you're fighting to re-enter are the ones God locked for your good.
- LT#89August 22 · 16 min
The Blessing Buried in the Betrayal: How to Recover From Burnout That Rest Won't Fix
Most high-achievers think burnout is a workload problem. It isn't. In this episode of Listen Then Speak, executive coach and certified counselor Jahmaal reframes burnout and betrayal as two sides of the same wound, and reveals why no vacation, boundary hack, or productivity system fixes exhaustion that lives at the belief level. If you've ever come back from time off and felt depleted by Tuesday, this one names what's really happening: you've been over-functioning to avoid grieving a betrayal y
- LT#88August 13 · 16 min
Why You Can't Accept a Compliment -- And What It's Doing to Your Brain Chemistry
You call it humility. Your nervous system calls it a threat response. Jahmaal Marshall unpacks the root-cause belief behind compliment deflection, high-functioning codependency, and the burnout it quietly manufactures; plus the empathy that's actually self-abandonment in disguise.
- LT#87August 4 · 25 min
Frozen Grief and the Nervous System: The Nolan Wells Episode | Listen Then Speak
Nolan Wells was an 18-year-old from Ocean Springs, Mississippi who went missing after a Fourth of July gathering on a Gulf Coast barrier island and was later found deceased. As of this episode's recording, his cause of death was officially undetermined and under investigation. This episode does not speculate on the case; it uses the public grief around it to explore how unresolved loss affects the body. Editorial note: This episode references an active, developing case. Details reflect what was
- LT#86July 26 · 30 min
When People Think They Can Afford to Lose You, They Mishandle You | A Solo Episode on Betrayal & Boundaries
Your betrayal didn't catch God by surprise. Learn how betrayal reveals character, why disordered boundaries fuel burnout & how to guard your heart.
- LT#85July 2 · 33 min
How to Increase Impact and Magnify Success with Brandee Brown
In this episode of Listen Then Speak, Jahmaal sits down with Brandee Brown, founder of Magnify Success, for a powerful conversation about resilience, leadership, and turning pain into purpose.
- LT#84June 25 · 42 min
She Built a Top Earning Agency After a Major Life Setback — Brynne Krispin on What Nobody Tells You About Starting Over
If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal What if the thing that makes your brand work is the part you keep trying to polish out? I sat down with Brynne Krispin, founder and CEO of Cause Fokus, for a conversation about personal branding, perfectionism, self-trust, burnout, boundaries, and what it really takes to become visible without losing yourself in the process. Brynne shares how her own life cracking open forced her to rebuild from a place of alignment instead of scarcity, and how that season shaped the way she thinks about visibility, trust, and building a brand that can actually last. We talked about why people connect with what is real, why your “better way moment” matters, and why sustainable authority is not built by copying templates or chasing vanity metrics. If you are building a business, stepping into thought leadership, trying to grow a side project, or learning how to show up with more clarity and less fear, this conversation is for you. Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Intro 2:09 - Brynne’s favorite music and what it reveals about her work 4:21 - Why perfectionism keeps people from building trust 6:13 - Self-trust, mistakes, and learning as you go 12:51 - Brynne’s story of rebuilding from survival mode 18:11 - Breaking out of scarcity and choosing alignment 21:45 - Finding your “better way moment” 26:51 - Why a strong brand should repel the wrong people 28:23 - How alignment shapes who you attract 31:20 - Why brand work often goes deeper than content 34:12 - Boundaries, health, and building something sustainable 39:23 - How Cause Fokus helps leaders build authority online 41:43 - Episode wrap-up and final thoughts CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Interested in learning more about Brynne? Website: https://causefokus.com/ Join Brynne’s 4-week live cohort for introverts, behind-the-scenes experts, and deep thinkers who want to build real influence on LinkedIn thoughtfully. https://cohort.causefokus.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- LT#83June 7 · 30 min
The Betrayal That Built You: Why Being Left Behind Might Be the Thing That Levels You Up
In this solo episode, Jahmaal walks through one of the most layered stories of betrayal in all of scripture: the life of Joseph. Thrown into a pit by his own brothers, sold into slavery, falsely accused by Potiphar's wife, and forgotten in prison, Joseph had every reason to be defined by what was done to him. Instead, he became second-in-command of the most powerful nation on earth, and used that position to save the very people who betrayed him.
- LT#82May 28 · 23 min
Growing Up in Chaos Can Make Peace Feel Suspicious w/Jahmaal Marshall
What This Episode Is About What happens when the very thing you’ve been praying for finally shows up, and your first instinct is to run from it, ruin it, or convince yourself you don’t deserve it? In this deeply personal and powerfully honest solo episode, Jahmaal Marshall pulls back the curtain on one of the most overlooked cycles holding people back: the inability to distinguish between peace and chaos when chaos is all you’ve ever known. Growing up in unpredictable, unstable, or emotionall
- LT#81May 16 · 27 min
How Growing Up in Chaos Can Make Peace Feel Suspicious - Jahmaal Marshall
What happens when the very thing you’ve been praying for finally shows up, and your first instinct is to run from it, ruin it, or convince yourself you don’t deserve it? In this deeply personal and powerfully honest solo episode, Jahmaal Marshall pulls back the curtain on one of the most overlooked cycles holding people back: the inability to distinguish between peace and chaos when chaos is all you’ve ever known. Growing up in unpredictable, unstable, or emotionally chaotic environments doesn
- LT#80April 30 · 24 min
"Know Your Worth. Watch What Leaves."
You've heard "know your worth" so many times it's lost its edge. But what if the real problem isn't that you don't know your worth, it's that you've never gotten genuinely curious enough about who you actually are to discover it? In this solo episode, Jahmaal Marshall dismantles the gap between self-worth as a slogan and self-worth as a lived frequency. He traces the direct line between untapped self-curiosity and the toxic dynamics that seem to keep finding you, and walks through the four-stag
- LT#79April 16 · 37 min
How to Turn Your Passion into Profit
A strong brand presence does not start with better gear. It starts with knowing how you want to show up. I sat down with Junaid Ahmed to talk about what it really takes to build a strong presence on and off camera without burning yourself out in the process. We got into the connection between emotional intelligence, storytelling, and studio setup, and why the best content starts with clarity long before you buy more gear. Junaid is the founder of Home Studio Mastery and the host of Hacks & Hobbies, where he helps entrepreneurs, creators, and business owners create studio setups that match the quality of their message. In this conversation, he shares how his own journey in video production, podcasting, and problem-solving led him to help others show up with more confidence, better systems, and a more intentional brand presence. We also talk through practical ways to improve your content right now, including framing, lighting, audio, and the importance of staying teachable as you grow. This one is full of insight for anyone who wants to communicate with more impact and show up more powerfully in their work. Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 1:03 - Meet Junaid 1:36 - Junaid’s favorite genre of music (and how it influences him) 4:44 - How Junaid developed his sense of calm 11:23 - ‘Energetic types’ 19:37 - What moved Junaid to help people build their brands 26:44 - Recommendations to improve your content right now 34:49 - Episode wrap-up CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Interested in learning more about Junaid? Website: https://homestudiomastery.com/ Book: https://homestudiobook.com/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- LT#78April 9 · 29 min
The Keys to How Clarity Reduces Stress and Burnout w/ Steve Woodruff
The way you communicate can open doors, or quietly close them. On this week’s episode, I sat down with Steve Woodruff to talk about what it really means to communicate with clarity, own your strengths, and become unforgettable in the way you show up. Steve is known as the “King of Clarity” – and his Clarity Formula is designed to help businesses and business owners unlock more revenue. He shares how simplifying your message, understanding your unique value, and creating what he calls “memory darts” can help you stand out, earn more referrals, and move with greater confidence in your work and calling. It’s a powerful conversation on identity, alignment, and saying what matters in a way people actually remember. Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 1:15 - Meet Steve Woodruff 3:06 - Steve’s favorite genre of music 6:53 - Steve’s shift away from corporate 11:11 - Finding your true purpose and identifying mismatch 14:16 - “Redeeming the time”, finding your path 19:21 - “Memory darts” 25:23 - How you can get in touch with Steve 27:26 - Final thoughts CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Interested in learning more about Steve? Website: https://www.stevewoodruff.com/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/swoodruff/ Book - Clarity Wins: https://www.amazon.com/Clarity-Wins-Get-Heard-Referred/dp/1732857105/ref=sr_1_1?crid=249NH5OG9SPL&keywords=Clarity%20Wins%20by%20Steve%20Woodruff&qid=1695139262&sprefix=clarity%20win%20by%20steve%20woodruff%2Caps%2C150&sr=8-1 Book: The Point: https://orderthepoint.carrd.co/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- LT#77April 2 · 24 min
Chemistry Can Lie. Character Always Tells the Truth
Jahmaal unpacks the difference between chemistry and character, and why so many people confuse emotional intensity with genuine alignment. In this solo episode, he breaks down how powerful connection can cloud judgment in relationships, friendships, business, and even hiring decisions. He challenges listeners to stop using feelings as proof, start paying attention to patterns, and recognize that closure does not always come from the other person. This conversation is a thoughtful reminder that character reveals itself over time, and real peace begins when people stop outsourcing their healing and start choosing clarity for themselves. Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 2:41 - Chemistry 7:47 - Character 13:36 - The trap of ‘waiting for closure’ 18:09 - Three practical shifts 20:54 - Final thoughts CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL Book your Strategy Hour: https://calendly.com/listenthenspeak/the-rewire-roadmap-vip-clone Mention Listen Then Speak when you book. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- LT#76March 26 · 45 min
Building Legacy After Losing Everything w/ Terry Rice
Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover In this episode, I sit down with Terry Rice, speaker, entrepreneur, and leadership trainer, for a real conversation about addiction, identity, fatherhood, discipline, and what it means to live in alignment. Terry brings the perspective of someone who has rebuilt more than once, opening up about getting fired from Facebook, losing his son TJ, and how those experiences shaped the way he leads, lives, and serves others today. We talk about overcoming alcoholism, building a life with intention, and using your scars, not to hide, but to help others grow. Honest, challenging, and full of perspective, this one is for anyone trying to lead with more clarity, purpose, and truth. Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 1:37 - Favorite genre of music and how it informs Terry’s life 4:15 - How Terry utilizes the gym 6:05 - Building resilience 8:35 - Terry’s why and his addiction to alcohol 13:57 - Exploring ‘functional addiction’ 18:01 - How Terry hit his brick wall 24:38 - Your sense of purpose and conquering your addictions 27:52 - “What drives you today?” 32:55 - Work/life rhythms and getting alignment 39:37 - Being a dad and working, or having a business 42:23 - Episode wrap-up CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Interested in learning more about Terry? https://performancesystems.co/keynote https://buildwiththem.com/ Linkedin - https://www.linkedin.com/in/terry-rice/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/itsterryrice/ https://performancesystems.co/ R³ Performance Systems helps leaders and organizations build systems that work whether they feel motivated or not. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- LT#75March 19 · 27 min
Waiting for Closure Is Costing You Everything
In this solo episode, Jahmaal Marshall gets direct about one of the most quietly destructive habits holding people back in both their personal and professional lives: waiting for closure that will never come. Most of us were taught that closure is something another person gives us a final conversation, an apology, an explanation. But what happens when that conversation never comes? Jahmaal breaks down the psychological reality of unresolved pain, how it quietly transfers from one situation to
- LT#74March 12 · 37 min
Sustainability on the Front Lines - How to Live in a State of Overflow in High Stress Environments w/ Dr. Gwendolyn Oglesby-Odom
Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover Burnout does not start with your calendar. It starts with what you keep tolerating. In this episode, I sit down with Dr. Gwendolyn Oglesby-Odom, a healthcare executive and transformational servant leader, for a powerful conversation on boundaries, psychological safety, self-care, and what it really takes to lead without losing yourself. From non-negotiables and team culture to vulnerability and sustainable leadership, this episode is packed with wisdom for anyone trying to build healthier people and stronger teams. Episode Highlights: 0:24 - Introduction 1:40 - Favorite genre of music and how it shapes her life 3:29 - The wellness gap for leaders on the front lines 4:05 - Why self-care has to be scheduled 5:31 - Night routines, boundaries, and protecting rest 7:36 - Non-negotiables and the cost of renegotiating them 10:17 - Delegation, team structure, and leadership vision 12:51 - Psychological safety and leading with vulnerability 20:15 - What to do when your work environment is draining you 23:00 - Vacation, refueling, and the leadership case for rest 25:51 - Leading with love and building a healthy team culture 35:11 - Dr. Gwen’s billion-dollar healthcare investment in Chicago CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Interested in learning more about Gwendolyn? Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-gwendolyn-oglesby-odom-ed-d-msn-bsn-rn-bc-nea-bc-0037482/ Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.
- LT#73March 5 · 23 min
Boundaries Without Bitterness: The Discipline That Protects Your Peace and Elevates Your Life
Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover Peace isn’t the absence of pressure. It’s the presence of structure. In this solo episode, Jahmaal breaks down boundaries without bitterness and why most people don’t struggle with saying no, they struggle with guilt, fear, and the need to be liked. He shares how resentment builds when you wait too long, why overexplaining kills a boundary’s authority, and the simple framework that helps you set limits with clarity, consistency, and calm. If you’re tired of protecting your peace with attitude, this one gives you the roadmap to protect it with discipline. Episode Highlights: 0:00 - Introduction 0:25 - Episode open 2:23 - The ‘B’ word (boundaries) 3:39 - Bitterness and what no boundaries gets you 11:07 - The affect on your business 14:07 - Why do we avoid boundaries? 16:03 - Being kind doesn’t always mean being available 17:31 - Clarity, consistency and calm 19:04 - The challenge for this week + closing thoughts Interested in Launching your own Podcast? Podcast Principles can help! Book a call below to learn more. https://calendly.com/podcastprinciples/discover CONNECT WITH JAHMAAL LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jahmaalmarshall/ Website: https://listenthenspeak.com/ If you're ready to get measured results for both personally and professionally, schedule an appointment with Jahmaal BUY ME A Coffee - with this link: https://buymeacoffee.com/listenthenspeak?new=1 Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.