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Education Entrepreneurship Lab

The LiberatED Podcast tells the stories of the entrepreneurial parents and teachers who are creating innovative K-12 learning options across the US and expanding education options for families. It is a project of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab at the Foundation for Economic Education. Learn more at edentrepreneur.org.

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S6 · E412
Tuesday · 19 min
Less Admin, More Education: Brett Kopf on Building Omella
What if help in running the business side of a school left more time for education? Lab Entrepreneur-In-Residence Kym Kent welcomes Brett Kopf, founder and CEO of Omella to LiberatED. Brett shares how his experiences as a student with learning disabilities inspired him to build tools that make educators' lives easier—from a school communication app that reached 30 million users to a payment platform designed to simplify school operations. They explore Omella's transparent, optional-tip pricing model and its expanding tools for payments, e-signatures, approvals, and registration. Kym also shares her experience using Omella at her homeschool center, where it has helped cut costs and free up time. Whether you run a microschool, homeschool center, or other educational program, this conversation offers a look at making everyday administration simpler and more affordable. *** Check out the Education Entrepreneurship Lab at edentrepreneur.org for a steady stream of new articles and original content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E411
October 6 · 35 min
From Homeschooling to FEE: Hannah Langdon on Learning and Liberty
What happens when education prioritizes mastery and real-world learning? The Lab's Denise Lever talks with Hannah Langdon of the Foundation for Economic Education (FEE) about her K–12 homeschool experience and how it shaped her work. They explore critical thinking, respectful disagreement, and FEE's resources and fellowships for educators—including homeschoolers and school founders. *** Check out the Education Entrepreneurship Lab at edentrepreneur.org for a steady stream of new articles and original content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E410
September 29 · 19 min
Inspiring Youth Entrepreneurs with Lemonade School
Kym Kent, an Entrepreneur-in-Residence at the FEE Education Entrepreneurship Lab, is joined today by Chris Stolte, founder of The Lemonade School, an online curriculum designed to teach children how to build real businesses from the ground up. Chris shares how his own entrepreneurial background and the experience of raising three young kids led him to create a program that takes children from basic business lessons all the way to running a real business with real customers, real products, and real profits. Kym and Chris talk about why homeschoolers and microschoolers are especially primed for this kind of hands-on learning, how the platform builds financial literacy skills like budgeting and reinvestment, and why starting entrepreneurship education early sets kids up for tomorrow's economy. This is a great listen for any parent looking to spark their child's inner entrepreneur! *** Check out the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and original content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E409
September 25 · 55 min
Microschool Makers Series #3: Leading A Thriving School
Welcome to the Microschool Makers Series, a three-part September series in collaboration with KaiPod to equip aspiring school founders with the inspiration and information needed to launch a successful, sustainable school! Our first episode focused on Developing Your Vision, while our second centered around Building A Sustainable School. Be sure to check out those shows for strategies and advice to help get you from idea to opening as quickly and effectively as possible. In this third and final episode, Kerry McDonald, Director of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab, talks with Amar Kumar, Founder & CEO of KaiPod Learning, and three founders about what it takes to lead and grow a thriving school. Our guests for this episode include Mercedes Grant, founder of Path of Life Learning in Virginia; Candice Hilton, founder of Hilton Horizons Academy in Tennessee; Lisa Swinson, founder of Creative Minds Microschool in North Carolina; and Joanna Cervantez, founder of A Fuller Education in Pennsylvania. Visit KaiPod for more information about this episode—and for an abundance of resources and tips to start your own microschool! *** Check out the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and original content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E408
September 22 · 49 min
Saving Recess with Dr. Cathy Ramstetter
What if recess isn't a break from learning, but an essential part of it? The Education Entrepreneurship Lab's Nasiyah Isra-Ul talks with health educator Dr. Cathy Ramstetter, co-author of the American Academy of Pediatrics policy statement on recess and author of the new book Why Recess Matters. They explore how unstructured, child-directed play supports social connection, cognitive performance, academic engagement, and school attendance—and why students need it from elementary school through 12th grade. Dr. Ramstetter also shares practical ideas for creating inclusive play environments, explains the inequities caused by withholding recess as punishment, and invites educators to embrace a more curious and joyful "recess mindset." *** Check out the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and original content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E407
September 18 · 53 min
Microschool Makers Series #2: Building A Sustainable School
Welcome to the Microschool Makers Series, a three-part September series in collaboration with KaiPod to equip aspiring school founders with the inspiration and information needed to launch a successful, sustainable school! If you missed our first episode, Developing Your Vision, be sure to listen to that discussion featuring school founders from Arizona, Texas, and Georgia. In this second episode, Kerry McDonald, Director of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab, talks with Amar Kumar, Founder & CEO of KaiPod Learning, and three founders about what it takes to build a sustainable schooling model. Our guests include Amy Anderson, founder of Wildwood Field School, a Montessori-inspired microschool in Davenport, Florida; Erica Peterson, founder of Endless Possibilities Academy in Humble, Texas; and Yalonda Chandler, founder of Legacy Builders Academy in Gardendale, Alabama. Visit KaiPod for more information about this episode—and for resources and tips to start your own microschool! Tune in next Friday for our third conversation: Leading A Thriving School. *** Check out the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and original content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E406
September 15 · 33 min
Building the School Her Son Needed with Mily Pérez
What does it take to turn more than 20 years in education—and one child's experience of not thriving in traditional school—into a new kind of learning environment? Host Kerry McDonald sits down with Mily Pérez, founder of Athena Micro-Academy of Austin, a microschool serving students in grades 6–12 that just opened last month! Mily shares how her educational background shaped her calling as an educator, why her son's learning experience inspired her to build a school of her own, and how the KaiPod Catalyst program gave her the confidence and practical knowledge to launch. Mily explains why she intends to keep Athena intentionally small, how she is protecting its warm and joyful culture, and how she designs each student's curriculum backward from their college, career, or post-high-school aspirations. This conversation offers an honest look at the challenges, choices, and deeply personal motivation behind building a school where every student can feel seen and supported. *** Check out the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and original content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E405
September 11 · 1 hr 1 min
Microschool Makers Series #1: Developing Your Vision
Welcome to the Microschool Makers Series, a three-part September series in collaboration with KaiPod to equip aspiring school founders with the inspiration and information needed to launch a successful, sustainable school! Every microschool starts with a clear vision — and the clearest ones sit at the intersection of what a founder is uniquely good at, what their community actually needs, and what can grow into something sustainable. In this first episode, Kerry McDonald, Director of the Education Entrepreneurship Lab, talks with Amar Kumar, Founder & CEO of KaiPod Learning, and three founders who had different visions for building their schools. Tom Dowell is the founder and Head of School of Moreana Boys Academy in Gilbert, Arizona, which he launched in 2024. A former public school teacher, Tom created an all-boys model centered on personalized academics, mentorship, hands-on learning, and character development. Gepre Henderson is the founder of BOSS Learning Academy in Douglasville, Georgia, which she opened in 2025. Drawing on more than 14 years of experience in education, she has built a STEM-focused K–5 microschool that emphasizes hands-on learning, student ownership, small groups, and a community that feels like an extension of the family. And Brittany Lopez is the founder of Brighter Futures Microschool in Arlington, Texas that just opened this month! As a certified special education teacher and professional educational therapist, Brittany designed her school specifically for students with learning, language, and social differences, placing targeted and individualized instruction at the heart of the model. Visit KaiPod for more information about this episode—and for resources and tips to start your own microschool! Tune in next Friday for our second conversation in this series: Building A Sustainable School. *** Check out the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and original content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E404
September 8 · 37 min
School's Out: An Interview with Mickey Revenaugh
What changes when the way we think about education starts to shift? The Education Entrepreneurship Lab's Nasiyah Isra-Ul speaks with Mickey Revenaugh, an author, innovator, and co-founder of Connections Academy, about her new book, School's Out: Why Families Are Choosing Unconventional Education, that discusses this very topic. From the early days of Connections Academy to the post-pandemic surge in alternative education, Mickey traces the ideas that changed how families think about school, technology, and success. Together, Nasiyah and Mickey connect the past with the present, answering some of the hot-button questions parents are asking now: What do kids actually need? What counts as a good outcome? And how do we build learning models that keep curiosity alive? Visit the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and fresh content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E403
September 1 · 24 min
School in a Yurt: Building a Co-Learning Community in Maryland
What does it take to build a learning community rooted in support, opportunity, and love? Entrepreneur-In-Residence Kym Kent speaks with educator and entrepreneur Tatiana Alexander about founding the SOL Learning Center, a small, mixed-age co-learning community operating from a backyard yurt in Clinton, Maryland. Tatiana shares how the center combines project-based learning, flexible academic options, family involvement, and community partnerships to serve homeschooling families. She also discusses the SOL Freedom Fund, her efforts to make alternative education more financially accessible, and her advice for parents and education entrepreneurs: seek support, start small, serve your neighbors, and choose collaboration. Visit the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and fresh content—by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E402
August 25 · 28 min
From Teacher to Founder: Creating Limestone Community School
After a decade in public education, Madeline Herrera reached a crossroads: compromise her vision for meaningful, project-based learning—or build a new kind of school. In this episode, Education Entrepreneurship Lab Senior Contributor Kelsy Achtenberg speaks with Madeline, founder and director of Limestone Community School in Lawrence, Kansas. They explore how Limestone combines project-based learning, community service, play, and student agency to help young people become thrive. Madeline shares the experiences that shaped her educational philosophy, the pushback that prompted her leap into entrepreneurship, and how Limestone students collaborate with community partners. She also offers practical encouragement for families defining their educational "non-negotiables" and educators wondering whether it's time to pursue a different path. Visit the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and fresh content by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E401
August 18 · 37 min
Dr. James Tooley on Low-Cost Private Schooling
Education Entrepreneurship Lab Entrepreneur-in-Residence Kym Kent talks with renowned education researcher and author Dr. James Tooley to explore the power of parent-driven, entrepreneurial education. In his acclaimed book The Beautiful Tree, Tooley chronicled his discovery of low-cost private schools serving families in some of the world's poorest communities—schools created by local entrepreneurs and sustained by parents determined to give their children a better education. Now, in his forthcoming book, The Beautiful Tree in America, he turns his attention to a similar grassroots movement unfolding across the United States and how it is impacting American K-12 education. Visit the Education Entrepreneurship Lab for a steady stream of new articles and fresh content by school founders, for school founders.
S6 · E400
August 11 · 3 min
Our 400th episode—and a special announcement!
LiberatED celebrates its 400th episode! Since launching in February 2022, the podcast has featured inspiring conversations with the entrpreneurial parents and teachers who are reimagining K-12 education and building new solutions. We mark this exciting milestone and preview Season 6, featuring a rotating cast of hosts from FEE's Education Entrepreneurship Lab who will bring fresh voices and perspectives to discussions about education entrepreneurship, innovation, and choice. We also tease an upcoming school-starter series launching this fall, made possible through the support of KaiPod. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!
S5 · E399
August 4 · 37 min
Building a Thriving Faith-Based Microschool with Emma Rodriguez
Guest host Denise Lever talks with Emma Rodriguez, a former public school teacher and founder of Lighthouse Christian Academy, a faith-based K–8 microschool in Frisco, Texas. Emma reflects on a remarkable first year in which enrollment grew from 2 to 20 students—and shares the story of one student whose academic progress, behavior, and confidence were transformed by the school's supportive environment. Emma explains how multi-age classrooms, small-group instruction, hands-on learning, and a strong sense of community help students thrive. She also discusses the challenges of balancing a founder's educational vision with parents' expectations, the value of mentorship and peer support, and her decision to move from a two-day program to a four-day school model. The conversation also explores how Texas's new Education Savings Account (ESA) program is expanding access to Lighthouse Christian Academy for families who might otherwise be unable to afford it. You can listen to Kerry McDonald's 2025 podcast interview with Emma here. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!
S5 · E398
July 28 · 26 min
How One Community Is Connecting Schools, Students, and Employers
In this episode of LiberatED, host Kerry McDonald speaks with Melody Rider, president of ConnectED Polk, a Florida nonprofit helping build stronger connections between education and industry. Rather than creating programs in isolation, ConnectED Polk serves as a community intermediary—bringing together K–12 schools, higher education, employers, and civic organizations to better prepare students for success after graduation. Melody shares how ConnectED Polk has reached thousands of students through career exploration events and is expanding work-based learning opportunities, including internships, apprenticeships, and other real-world experiences designed to help students discover their interests and build durable career skills. The conversation also explores ConnectED Polk's partnership with WonderHere to launch an innovative microschool inside a Title I public elementary school in Polk County, which Kerry wrote about at Forbes. They discuss the importance of helping traditional public schools innovate alongside charter and private school growth, and why durable human skills matter more than ever in an AI-driven economy. Whether you're an educator, parent, policymaker, or employer, this episode offers a compelling look at how community collaboration can create more meaningful pathways from education to employment—and better outcomes for students. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!
S5 · E397
July 21 · 36 min
Navigating Legal Challenges as an Education Entrepreneur, with ERC's Lynn Swanson
Starting a microschool or other innovative learning environment is about far more than curriculum and community. Founders also have to navigate a maze of zoning rules, fire codes, occupancy limits, licensing questions, and other regulatory hurdles that can make or break their schools. In this guest-hosted episode of the LiberatED Podcast, Education Entrepreneurship Lab senior contributor and Baker Creek Academy founder, Denise Lever, talks with Lynn Swanson, Chief Counsel, Education at Stand Together, about the organization's Edupreneur Resource Center (ERC) and how it helps education entrepreneurs tackle legal and compliance challenges before they become major problems. Lynn explains the ERC's free resources—including microcourses, state-specific compliance guides, checklists, and personalized coaching—and shares practical advice for founders facing inspections, regulatory questions, or enforcement actions. She also discusses the most common compliance pitfalls, why facilities issues are often the biggest obstacle for new schools, and how entrepreneurs can stay informed as rules evolve. Whether you're launching a microschool, hybrid homeschool program, learning pod, or other education venture, this conversation offers actionable guidance to help you navigate the legal landscape with greater confidence. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!
S5 · E396
July 17 · 35 min
From Democratic School Founder to Urban Nature Educator
For years, Maysaa Bazna led Pono, an innovative outdoor democratic school in New York City, where children followed their curiosity and developed deep connections with the natural world. She saw an opportunity to bring those same experiences to many more children through partnerships with urban Title I public schools. Today, Maysaa is the founder and executive director of City to Sanctuary, a nonprofit that partners with public schools to take students out of the classroom and into nature every month. Through repeated visits to nature preserves, students participate in activities like bird banding, pond ecology, hiking, and ice fishing while building confidence, curiosity, and a lasting relationship with the outdoors. In this episode, host Kerry McDonald speaks with Maysaa about her journey from alternative school founder to creator of a vibrant urban nature education program that is seeing significant, positive results for students and teachers. They also discuss City to Sanctuary's expansion plans, bringing nature-based learning to thousands more students across the country. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!
S5 · E395
July 14 · 47 min
What If Learning Started with Curiosity Instead of Curriculum?
Guest host Jennie Jones, an Entrepreneur-In-Residence at the Education Entrepreneurship Lab, interviews Tanner Bowman, founder of Optio, a quest-based learning platform that helps homeschoolers and microschools document and personalize student-directed learning. After teaching across public, private, charter, online, and microschool environments, Tanner concluded that traditional education's standardized structure made meaningful personalization difficult. Inspired by experiments with increased student autonomy during and after COVID, he left his public school position to build Optio. Tanner explains how Optio grew out of an in-person lab school where students pursued entrepreneurial and passion-driven projects while earning accredited high school credit. He shares how the platform evolved from a one-size-fits-all learning management system into a customizable tool that adapts to each microschool's unique philosophy and teaching style. Throughout the conversation, Tanner argues that teaching is fundamentally an art form, that students are naturally motivated to learn when given meaningful ownership over their education, and that families deserve systems that recognize authentic learning wherever it occurs. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!
S5 · E394
July 7 · 35 min
Inside a Youth-Run Microschool in Virginia
Special Summer Episode! Kym Kent, an Entrepreneur-In-Residence at the Education Entrepreneurship Lab, is the guest host for today's LiberatED Podcast! Listen in as she interviews Catina Sweedy, a staff member at the Embark Center for Self-Directed Education in Leesburg, Virginia. Catina tells us about this unique, youth-led microschool for tweens and teens. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!
S5 · E393
June 30 · 35 min
When A Microschool Founder Has To Step Away
When Niki Harris and her husband launched Farm School on their working farm in Northern California in 2018, they were simply looking for a better educational option for their own four children. What began as a part-time co-op quickly grew into a thriving place-based microschool serving dozens of students through multiple programs. But after nearly a decade of growth, unexpected circumstances forced Niki to make one of the hardest decisions any school founder can face: halting operations in the middle of the school year. On this episode of LiberatED, Niki shares the remarkable story of Farm School's evolution, the emotional and operational challenges of pausing a beloved microschool, and the lessons every education entrepreneur can learn from her experience. *** Sign up for Kerry's free, weekly email newsletter on education trends at edentrepreneur.org. Kerry's latest book, Joyful Learning: How to Find Freedom, Happiness, and Success Beyond Conventional Schooling, is available now wherever books are sold!

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