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Lawyer 2 Lawyer

Attorney J. Craig Williams and Legal Talk Network

Lawyer 2 Lawyer is an award-winning podcast covering relevant, contemporary news from a legal perspective. Host J. Craig Williams invites industry professionals to examine current events and recent rulings in discussions that raise contemplative questions for those involved in the legal industry. Launched in 2005, Lawyer 2 Lawyer is one of the longest-running podcasts on the Internet.

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August 28 · 45 min
The Top Seven Legal Issues of the Current Administration
As we approach the midterm elections, we wanted to spend this episode reviewing the most controversial ways that the current Administration has interacted with the law. We’ve had no shortage of choices to pick from, but we’ve narrowed it down to the top seven headline-grabbing issues over the last two years that stood out to us. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, producer Kate Nutting highlights the top 7 and turns to past episodes to cover the legal issues at the forefront of the nation today. Mentioned in this Episode: Trump’s Tariffs: SCOTUS, and the Impact on International Trade Law & the American People The Legalities Behind ICE, The Constitution, Minnesota, & the Impact on the Rule of Law Voting & Election Law: Current Issues Ahead of the 2026 Midterm Elections Birthright Citizenship, a SCOTUS Ruling, & the Impact on Immigration Policy The Summer of SCOTUS: Big Decisions & Impact RFK Jr. and Public Health: Vaccine Policy, Outbreaks, and Funding Cuts Actions of the DOJ, Threats to the Judiciary, & Judicial Independence
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August 14 · 40 min
Federal Judges: The Birthplace Controversy, the Constitution, and the Fight Against Rhetoric
Naturalized citizens have served as federal judges, including as Justices of our Supreme Court, for more than two centuries, many with great distinction. Recently Representative Nancy Mace introduced a joint resolution calling for an amendment to our Constitution that would require that federal judges, alongside members of Congress, be born in the United States. Previously, Representative Pete Stauber proposed legislation requiring that all American judges be “natural born citizens” and require sitting judges with dual citizenship to renounce foreign ties. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes Judge Jeremy D. Fogel, formerly of the United States District Court for the Northern District of California, as they discuss these proposals that would require federal judges to be born in the United States or qualify as “natural born citizens, and the opposition by a group of bipartisan judges, Keep Our Republic's Article III Coalition, who are leading the charge against these proposals which create hateful rhetoric and go against the framers of our Constitution’s ideals. Mentioned in this Episode: Keep Our Republic's Article III Coalition
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July 31 · 33 min
RFK Jr. and Public Health: Vaccine Policy, Outbreaks, and Funding Cuts
Since the appointment of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to serve as Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS), public health has been surrounded by controversy. To start, billions of dollars in public health funding were slashed by the Trump administration. With Kennedy at the helm, and these cuts to federal funding, the handling of vaccine recommendations, food safety, and the restructuring of federal public health agencies have all been impacted. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes Michael R. Ulrich, an Associate Professor at Boston University’s School of Public Health and School of Law, as they spotlight the current state of public health under RFK Jr.'s leadership. Craig & Michael take a look at HHS' overhaul of the childhood vaccine schedule, current outbreaks (measles & cyclospora), and the impact of federal funding cuts to public health.
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July 17 · 32 min
Lawyers: Defending the Constitution & Fighting for our Democracy
Lawyers. Defenders of our Constitution, but in our current political climate, they are fighting more than ever. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes Lauren Stiller Rikleen, executive director of Lawyers Defending American Democracy. Craig & Lauren spotlight the legal community and how lawyers are defending our democracy through initiatives and how they are seeking accountability for those in our profession who have violated their ethical obligations.
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July 3 · 43 min
The Summer of SCOTUS: Big Decisions & Impact
Summer is upon us and the Supreme Court of the United States is set to rule on a number of landmark cases including birthright citizenship, transgender athletes, campaign finance limits, and mail-in ballots. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes Steven D. Schwinn, professor of law at the University of Illinois Chicago School of Law, as they spotlight the summer of SCOTUS. Craig & Steve discuss the major SCOTUS decisions happening this summer and the potential impact of these rulings.
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June 19 · 33 min
Birthright Citizenship, a SCOTUS Ruling, & the Impact on Immigration Policy
At the end of June, early July of 2026, the Supreme Court will make a decision on President Donald Trump’s executive order attempting to end birthright citizenship. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes Paul Finkelman, legal historian and professor of law at Albany Law School, as they spotlight birthright citizenship. Craig & Paul discuss the Trump administration’s efforts to end birthright citizenship, the legality of the executive order, the 14th amendment, amicus briefs, and the potential impact of the upcoming SCOTUS ruling on immigration policy. Mentioned in this Episode: Brief for Professors Gabriel J. Chin, Paul Finkelman, and Erika Lee as Amici Curiae In Support of Respondents
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June 5 · 39 min
National Monuments, Public Lands, & Presidential Power
Back in 2025, the Department of Justice issued a legal opinion stating that presidents may have authority not only to create but also to revoke national monuments established by prior presidents. So what does this mean for protections for national monuments and public lands like the Grand Staircase and Bears Ears National Monument? On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes professor of law, Mark Squillace from the University of Colorado Law School, as they spotlight national monuments, public lands, and presidential power. Craig & Mark discuss the DOJ’s legal opinion on national monuments, monument and public land protections, Congressional authority, the Antiquities Act of 1906, conservation law, and federal land management.
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May 29 · 33 min
Actions of the DOJ, Threats to the Judiciary, & Judicial Independence
On July 4th, 2026, the United States will celebrate its 250th anniversary. Americans will reflect not only on our history, but on the institutions that have carried us through. Among the most important of those institutions are our courts and the justice system. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes Judge Jeremy D. Fogel, the first Executive Director of the Berkeley Judicial Institute. Craig & Judge Fogel discuss the Department of Justice’s recent overall actions, threats to the judiciary, judicial independence, and why this all matters as we approach our nation's 250th. Mentioned in this Episode: Keep Our Republic
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May 15 · 32 min
Taylor Swift, Trademark Law, & AI
The rise of artificial intelligence has created new legal challenges around identity and consent, especially for public figures like Taylor Swift. In response, Taylor has recently taken matters into her own hands by filing trademark applications to protect her voice and image from AI. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes Attorney Daliah Saper, Principal at Saper Law Offices. Craig & Daliah discuss spotlight trademark law, AI, trademarking voice and image, and how AI has changed the game when it comes to trademark protection for celebrities and non-celebrities. Mentioned in this Episode: Legal Issues Surrounding Social Media Featuring Daliah Saper (2010) Attorney Daliah Saper is Principal at Saper Law Offices. Daliah’s practice focuses on a number of practice areas including trademark, copyright, and entertainment law.
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April 24 · 35 min
Voting & Election Law: Current Issues Ahead of the 2026 Midterm Elections
As the 2026 midterm elections inch closer and closer, controversial issues surrounding voting have become the focus of a national debate. Voter identification laws, mail-in voting, redistricting, and election security are just some of the current issues ahead of the elections. On this Lawyer 2 Lawyer episode, Craig welcomes Nicholas Stephanopoulos, Kirkland & Ellis Professor of Law at Harvard Law School and Director of Strategy of the Election Law Clinic. Craig & Nick discuss mail-in voting, redistricting, the Voting Rights Act, gerrymandering, the electoral college v. popular vote, SCOTUS' potential influence on elections, and other various voting issues leading up to the midterm elections. Mentioned in this Episode: PlanScore
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April 10 · 43 min
Law School Accreditation: Shaping the Future of the Profession
Law school accreditation is an essential component in shaping the future of our legal profession. The Council of the American Bar Association Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar, which operates independently of the ABA, is the only national accreditor of law schools. where they set the standards for curriculum, faculty, and facilities to ensure quality legal education. Craig welcomes Daniel R. Thies, Chair of the Council of the American Bar Association Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar. Craig & Daniel discuss law school accreditation, misconceptions, accreditation at the state and federal levels right now, the value of a single national accreditor, and the impact on the legal profession. Mentioned in this Episode: Council of the the American Bar Association Section of Legal Education and Admissions to the Bar
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March 27 · 36 min
Citizens United: A Strategy to Take Dark Money Out of Politics
Back in 2010, in the campaign finance case, Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission, SCOTUS ruled in favor of Citizens United stating that the First Amendment prohibits the government from restricting independent political expenditures by corporations and unions. This then opened the door to unlimited political spending by corporations and outside groups, ultimately reshaping our elections. Craig welcomes Tom Moore, Senior Fellow for Democracy Policy at the Center for American Progress, to discuss the 2010 Citizens United v. Federal Election Commission decision. Craig & Tom take a look at the impact of this SCOTUS ruling over 16 years, and in an election year, how a state's authority over corporations can take out dark money in politics. Mentioned in this Episode: Transparent Election Initiative The Montana Plan
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March 13 · 37 min
Celebrating Women’s History Month: Trailblazers Who Paved the Way for the Women of Today
March is Women’s History Month where we pay tribute to all of the women who have made a difference and shaped our political and legal landscape. Pioneers like Susan B. Anthony, Sojourner Truth, Eliza Harriot, Belva Lockwood, Alice Paul, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg are a number of women who have made a difference and continue to inspire the women of today. Craig welcomes Mary Sarah Bilder, historian and the Founders Professor of Law at Boston College Law School, to celebrate Women's History Month. Craig & Mary discuss trailblazing women throughout history, like Eliza Harriot, the barriers they faced, and the impact these women pioneers had on the founding era. Mentioned in this Episode: Female Genius: Eliza Harriot and George Washington at the Dawn of the Constitution by Mary Sarah Bilder
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February 27 · 38 min
The SAVE America Act: Mission, Constitutionality, & Potential Impact
The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility, better known as the SAVE America Act, is a 2026 bill designed to tighten federal election integrity by requiring proof of U.S. citizenship for voter registration, and photo proof when voting in federal elections. Recently passed by the House, this bill has created quite the stir, igniting debates in the Senate with bipartisan opposition to registering and voting through documentation requirements. So if passed, will the SAVE America Act change elections going forward? And how will this impact who votes in future elections? On this episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, Craig joins John J. Martin, Assistant Professor of Law at Quinnipiac University School of Law, as they explore the SAVE America Act and voter ID requirements. Craig & John discuss the origin, constitutionality, and potential impact on the people of the United States. Mentioned in this Episode: Citizenship Voting Requirement in SAVE America Act Has No Basis in the Constitution – and Ignores Precedent that Only States Decide Who Gets to Vote by John J. Martin
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February 13 · 42 min
Mental Health & the Legal Profession
The legal profession can be a stressful one. Whether its workload, the demands of clients, financial pressure or long days and nights, it can be overwhelming to many. So what kind of toll is this stress having on lawyers? And where can you get help? On this episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, Craig joins Attorney Jason Ward, public speaker on mental wellness and addiction, as they discuss mental health & the legal profession. Craig & Jason talk about the stressors that come with the profession, the impact, how to alleviate the day-to-day stress of the occupation, and where to get help. Mentioned in this Episode: Litigation Radio: The Toll It Takes: Litigation, Substance Abuse, And (Maybe) You ABA’s Well Being Toolkit
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January 30 · 40 min
The Legalities Behind ICE, The Constitution, Minnesota, & the Impact on the Rule of Law
The recent fatal shootings of Renee Good & Alex Pretti in Minneapolis, Minnesota shook the nation and the world. In recent months, the tactics and actions of the U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, better known as ICE, have reached a boiling point in communities and have come under scrutiny for the treatment of civilians. In response, many have taken to the streets to protest. With the Trump administration's mission to deport dangerous criminals, a recent internal ICE policy specifically allowed agents to go door to door without a judicial warrant, in direct contradiction to the Fourth Amendment (unreasonable searches and seizures by the government). As protestors lined the streets, an individual’s First Amendment rights—freedom of speech and assembly in particular—were also under attack. Are we currently witnessing the shredding of the U.S Constitution and the rule of law? Will there be investigations into the actions of ICE? Will the legislative branch step in? On this episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, Craig joins David Cole, Professor in Law and Public Policy at Georgetown Law and former National Legal Director of the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). Craig & David discuss the legalities behind the actions of ICE, the constitutional rights of individuals who encounter ICE agents, the recent tragedies in Minnesota surrounding ICE agents and civilians, and the overall impact these actions are having on the rule of law and the U.S. Constitution.
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January 16 · 50 min
The Venezuela Invasion, the Monroe Doctrine, International Law, and Trump Takeovers
On January 3, 2026, the U.S. military captured Venezuela’s president Nicolas Maduro and his wife and brought them back to the United States where they faced criminal charges related to drug trafficking. Many questioned the legality of the invasion and a policy from the 1800s called the Monroe Doctrine was being alluded to by the current administration. Trump’s reinterpretation of the Monroe Doctrine nicknamed “The Donroe Doctrine” by Trump himself, was originally a policy created back in 1823 by then-President James Monroe to oppose European interference in the Western Hemisphere. Trump reinvoked Monroe in his decision to take over Venezuela and publicly made threats to take over other countries. On this episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, Craig joins Claire Finkelstein, Professor of National Security Law and faculty director of the Center for Ethics and the Rule of Law (CERL) at University of Pennsylvania Carey Law School. Craig & Claire discuss international law, the Monroe Doctrine, the legality of the Venezuela invasion, and the threats from the Trump administration of possible takeovers of other countries. Mentioned in this Episode: The Monroe Doctrine In Dispute: Why John Adams Defended the British Soldiers During the Boston Massacre Trials
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Dec 19, 2025 · 44 min
Cox Communications, Inc. v. Sony Music Entertainment: SCOTUS & Copyright Law
On December 1, 2025, the Supreme Court of the United States heard oral arguments in the landmark copyright case, Cox Communications, Inc. v. Sony Music Entertainment. This case centers on whether Cox, an internet service provider, can be held legally liable for copyright infringement committed by its subscribers when those users downloaded and shared thousands of copyrighted songs without permission. On this episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, Craig joins Professor Christopher Jon Sprigman, Co-Director of the Engelberg Center on Innovation Law and Policy at NYU Law, as they spotlight Cox Communications, Inc. v. Sony Music Entertainment. Craig & Chris discuss this SCOTUS case, oral arguments, the friend-of-the-court brief, copyright law, and the potential impact of a future ruling. Mentioned in this Episode: Cox Communications, Inc. v. Sony Music Entertainment Brief of Amici Curiae ACLU et al. in Support of Petitioners
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Dec 5, 2025 · 46 min
Illegal Orders, Military Law, and Investigations
Last month, six Democrat lawmakers, all with military or intelligence backgrounds, released a controversial video urging service members to refuse illegal orders set forth by the current administration. In response, the Defense Department said it would investigate these lawmakers, while President Donald Trump chimed in accusing them of “seditious behavior,” a charge “punishable by death. On this episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, Craig joins Professor Victor M. Hansen as they spotlight the controversy over the "illegal orders"video. Craig & Victor discuss what constitutes illegal orders in the military, the FBI/DOD investigation into those involved in the video, and military code and law.
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Nov 21, 2025 · 34 min
Alienation of Affection: Litigation and the Treatment of Intimate Deception
Recently, in the state of North Carolina, a judge ordered a Tik Tok influencer to pay 1.75 million for destroying her manager’s marriage citing a common law tort called alienation of affection. Alienation of affection lawsuits are still legal in a few states, including Hawaii, Illinois, Mississippi, New Mexico, North Carolina, South Dakota, and Utah. On this episode of Lawyer 2 Lawyer, Craig joins Professor Jill Hasday from the University of Minnesota Law School, as they spotlight the tort of alienation of affection. Craig & Jill discuss litigation, states that recognize alienation of affection, and the law's treatment of intimate deception.

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