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Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast

Karen McMahon

The Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast is your trusted companion through every stage of divorce—emotional, legal, financial, and parental. With over nine years of impactful episodes, this top-ranked podcast supports men and women navigating the challenges of divorce, especially those facing high-conflict dynamics, co-parenting struggles, emotional overwhelm, or legal uncertainty.

Hosted by Karen McMahon, Certified Divorce Coach® and founder of Journey Beyond Divorce, the show offers strategic guidance, expert interviews, and real-life stories designed to help listeners move from confusion and chaos to clarity and confidence. Each episode is packed with insight and inspiration to help you make informed decisions, protect your children, safeguard your finances, and heal emotionally—so you can create a life you truly love post-divorce.

If you're on the fence about whether to stay or go, have just been told your marriage is ending, or are actively working through the messy middle of litigation, negotiation, or co-parenting, this podcast meets you where you are. You'll learn how to emotionally regulate through triggers, explore your divorce process options (mediation, collaboration, litigation, arbitration), and prepare to work effectively with legal and financial professionals. Topics include how to gather your financials, navigate custody issues, and negotiate complex decisions around property, retirement assets, and business valuations.

For those already in the process, episodes offer real-time guidance on how to cope with personality disorders in your co-parent, how to protect your children from toxic dynamics, and how to negotiate settlements strategically. You'll hear from certified divorce financial analysts, attorneys, parenting coordinators, therapists, and coaches who share proven tools and tips. Professionals in the divorce field—including family law attorneys, therapists, and financial experts—also listen in to better support their clients and stay up-to-date on best practices.

And when the divorce is final? The podcast continues to serve as a roadmap for building your next chapter. Learn how to close out the financial and legal loose ends—such as QDROs, life insurance, beneficiary changes, and estate updates—while beginning to design a life aligned with your values, goals, and inner peace. Episodes cover healing from betrayal trauma, understanding your emotional patterns, rediscovering your identity, and navigating the complexities of post-divorce dating and parenting.

This podcast also answers the most searched divorce-related questions, including:
How do I co-parent with a narcissist?

What are the steps in the divorce process?

Should I litigate or mediate?

What is a QDRO and do I need one?

How do I protect my kids emotionally?

What is the role of a certified divorce financial analyst?

How do I move on after infidelity or betrayal?

Listeners benefit from expert-vetted strategies, free resources, and supportive insights grounded in both experience and compassion. The Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast is more than just content—it's a lifeline. Whether you're seeking calm in the storm, tools to advocate for yourself, or support rebuilding your life, each episode helps you grow stronger, wiser, and more empowered.
Subscribe today and begin your journey beyond divorce with guidance you can trust.

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Yesterday · 32 min
Signs Your Spouse Is Hiding Money in Your Divorce with Krista Shelton, CFE, Founder and President of Focused Forensic Solutions, LLC
Is your spouse hiding money during divorce? Maybe the spending doesn't match what you're being told, bank statements go missing, or simple questions about money get brushed aside. In this episode, Karen McMahon talks with Krista Shelton, a former IRS Special Agent with more than 20 years of experience and the founder of Focused Forensic Solutions. Krista walks through the five red flags forensic accountants look for when a spouse is hiding money or assets in a divorce. Krista explains why owning a small business gives a spouse room to underreport income and run personal expenses through the company. Missing financial documents deserve a closer look too, especially when a month or two disappears from the middle of a stack of bank statements. She describes how income controlled by a parent or sibling can suddenly drop once divorce is filed, and how "nominees" are used to move a business into a relative's name while the original owner keeps control. She also explains why one spouse holding full financial control leaves the other exposed. Along the way she offers a reassuring point: every transaction today leaves a third-party record, which makes hidden assets in divorce far easier to uncover than most people fear. Krista shares the story of Kate, a stay-at-home mom married 36 years, whose gut told her something was wrong. The evidence Krista's team found led to an additional $250,000 in the settlement and a significant increase in the income used for child support, without anyone taking the stand at trial. Karen and Krista also talk about when to use subpoenas to get bank records. They cover how a business valuator differs from a forensic accountant, and how to vet a forensic expert by reviewing their CV and speaking with former clients. Krista explains why bank statements are the single most important document when you suspect hidden money in divorce. Cost keeps many people from getting help. Krista's firm works on flat fees based on the volume of documents, with most cases around $5,000 and a range of $2,500 to $10,000. That way you know the cost of a forensic accountant before the work begins. If your gut is telling you your spouse is hiding money during divorce, this conversation will help you understand what to look for and what to do next. Connect with Krista: LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/krista-shelton-cfe-ea/ Instagram - https://www.instagram.com/krista.shelton.cfe/ Website - www.focusedforensic.com Connect with Karen: Book a FREE Coaching Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call Join Divorce Support Network: https://bit.ly/jbdpod
November 4 · 39 min
Divorce and the House: What You Want vs. What You Can Afford with Divorce Mortgage Specialist, Tami Wollensak
The marital home is usually the biggest asset in a divorce, and it can also be the biggest blind spot. In this episode, Karen McMahon sits down with divorce mortgage specialist Tami Wollensak, who brings 30 years in lending and has helped more than 1,000 divorcing homeowners answer one pressing question: can I afford to keep the house after divorce? Together they explore how to close the gap between wanting to keep the marital home and being able to afford it. Tami explains why agreeing on how to value the home matters more than agreeing on a number, why an appraisal gives you neutral data that a realtor's market analysis or Zillow can't, and how home equity becomes part of the marital balance sheet when one spouse buys out the other. She walks through the ways a buyout can be funded, from a refinance to family help to trading other marital assets like retirement accounts, and why the decision rarely has to be all or nothing. Karen and Tami also dig into the costs many divorcing homeowners overlook, including property taxes, homeowner's insurance, association dues, utilities, and the 2 to 3 percent of the home's value you should budget each year for maintenance. Tami breaks down how lenders treat alimony and child support as qualifying income for a mortgage, including the six months of court-ordered payments and 36-month continuance underwriters look for, why voluntary payments into a joint account won't count, and how vague settlement language can cut your qualifying income in half. She also shares the housing budget ratios that keep you from ending up house rich and cash poor. Both Karen and Tami open up about their own decisions around the marital home, and why renting after divorce turned out to be one of the best choices either of them made. Tami closes with three steps to take before you sign a divorce settlement involving the house: agree on how the home will be valued, gather your mortgage statement so you know exactly what you owe, and track the monthly costs of running your household so you can build a post-divorce budget that holds. Connect with Tami: Take the Free Quiz: The Divorce Housing Clarity Quiz - https://empowereduncoupling.com/assessment/ Website: https://www.empowereduncoupling.com Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/tami_wollensak Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tamiwollensak Substack: https://tamiwollensak.substack.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@empowereduncoupling Connect with Karen: Book a FREE Coaching Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call Join Divorce Support Network: https://bit.ly/jbdpod
October 19 · 31 min
10 Year Anniversary Episode: Surviving a High Conflict Divorce Without Losing Your Sanity with Karen McMahon
To celebrate a decade of Journey Beyond Divorce, we're sharing a special collection of episodes featuring Karen McMahon as a guest on some of her favorite podcasts. Over the years, Karen has joined incredible hosts across the divorce, coaching, and personal growth space to share her story and her expertise. This collection brings those conversations together in one place, offering a look at Karen's voice and message from a different angle, through the eyes of the hosts who welcomed her. Thank you for being part of this journey, and for helping Journey Beyond Divorce grow into what it is today. Karen McMahon on Last First Date Radio with Sandy Weiner In this episode, originally recorded for the Last First Date Radio podcast, host Sandy Weiner sits down with Karen McMahon, High Conflict Divorce Coach and Strategist with Journey Beyond Divorce, for a candid conversation on surviving a high-conflict divorce without losing your sanity. Karen shares why powerlessness shows up so often during divorce, and why shifting the focus back onto yourself, rather than what your ex is doing, is the fastest path back to feeling empowered. She walks through the internal and external boundaries that got her through her own high-conflict divorce and co-parenting relationship, why trying to change your ex almost never works, and how men and women often face very different challenges in a high-conflict split. Karen and Sandy close with a conversation on rewriting the stories we tell ourselves about our divorce, and what it really takes to have your "last first date" and build something healthy the second time around. Sandy is a certified life and relationship coach who helps midlife women heal from heartbreak and find lasting love. She is the host of Last First Date Radio and founder of Last First Date, a coaching practice and community for women navigating dating and relationships after divorce or a painful breakup. Learn more about Sandy Weiner and her work at https://lastfirstdate.com, and listen to Last First Date Radio: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/last-first-date-radio/id586220219 Connect with Karen: Book a FREE Coaching Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call Join Divorce Support Network: https://bit.ly/jbdpod
October 16 · 32 min
You Can Insure Your Divorce Settlement. Here's How, with CEO/Founder of NASDF Ronald Platt
You spend months, sometimes years, negotiating child support and alimony. Then a layoff, a disability, a business bankruptcy, or a death can stop those payments overnight, and most people have no idea there's a way to protect that income. In this episode, Karen McMahon sits down with Ron Platt, founder of the National Association of Single and Divorced Families (NASDF) and creator of Support Insured, the only policy on the market that covers child support and alimony together. Ron shares how an idea he and his father developed 30 years ago was turned down by carrier after carrier because of the word "divorce," and how it finally found an underwriter willing to take the risk. Karen and Ron walk through how the coverage works when the paying spouse loses a job, becomes disabled, files for business bankruptcy, or passes away, with payments continuing for up to a year so the receiving parent isn't left scrambling or paying an attorney to go back to court. They cover how premiums are calculated by age and support amount, why the receiving spouse can purchase the policy on behalf of the paying spouse, what happens with renewals and repeat claims, and why it's never too late to apply as long as a settlement is in place. Ron also explains why the policy is offered through NASDF membership and what members can access for $19 a month, including mental health sessions, childcare enrollment discounts, realtor referral rebates that can reduce closing costs, career services for parents returning to work after time at home, and a concierge service to help match members with attorneys, mediators, and coaches. He closes with the deeply personal reason he built the association, rooted in his experience as a foster parent and his goal of advocating for children caught in the family court and foster care systems. If you've ever lain awake wondering what happens if the support stops, this conversation offers a practical next step to protect what you fought so hard to secure. Connect with Ronald: JBD Gift: 10 free memberships to NASDF for one year!! Email: info@nasdf.org and tell them Karen McMahon sent you! Learn more about Support Insured and NASDF membership at https://www.nasdf.org Follow NASDF on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/nasdforg/ Follow NASDF on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/NASDF.org Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Join Divorce Support Network: Back to school offer, 80% off a full year for $99, plus two strategic calls at no cost, one with a coach and one with a financial specialist: https://community.divorcesupportnetwork.com/back-to-school/?utm_source=JBDPodcast&utm_medium=RonaldPlatt&utm_campaign=BTS Free Rapid Relief Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call Join The Steady Circle: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/hcdsg The Steady Circle is a 12-week group coaching program for women navigating high-conflict divorce. Divorce coach Karen McMahon leads six live, bi-weekly Zoom sessions, where women learn to calm emotional triggers, set boundaries that hold, and respond to a difficult ex with strategy. Each member begins with a Personalized Support Blueprint. She stays connected between sessions through a private peer community, and she gets session recordings, a resource library, and two skills courses: Reclaim Your Mind and Boundary Bootcamp. Members leave steadier, clearer and more confident, with a circle of women who understand exactly what they're facing.
October 13 · 6 min
Should I Stay Together for the Kids?
Should you stay for the kids? Karen McMahon opens this solo episode with a composite scene drawn from moments she has seen over and over in her work: a dinner table, a parent's jaw tightening, and a silence that lasts a beat too long. Two children respond in two different ways. Nine-year-old Emily fills the quiet with bright chatter, and five-year-old Jake gets smaller, hoping to take up less space. Their parent watches it happen across the table and recognizes the same fear in both of them. From there, Karen explains what those moments teach. Children who grow up around tension build coping strategies like people pleasing, hypervigilance, and codependence, and they carry those patterns into their own relationships. The research Karen draws on points to ongoing conflict as the source of harm to children, and staying in the house does not shield them from what the marriage looks like. She leaves you with a question many parents never ask themselves: if I stay, and this is my children's picture of intimate relationship, is that what I want to create in them? Leaving an unhealthy, high-conflict marriage can begin to break generational chains, because you show your children what healthy love can look like. Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Join Divorce Support Network: Back to school offer, 80% off a full year for $99, plus two strategic calls at no cost, one with a coach and one with a financial specialist: https://community.divorcesupportnetwork.com/back-to-school/?utm_source=JBDPodcast&utm_medium=Podcast&utm_content=Stayforthekids Mend or End Playlist: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/mend-or-end-your-divorce-free-gift?utm_source=Libsyn&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=Stayforthekids Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call
October 10 · 41 min
AI and Divorce: What Your Chatbot Could Cost You in Court with Amanda DuBois
Everyone is turning to AI to get organized, prepare for attorney meetings, and make sense of divorce. Seattle family law attorney Amanda DuBois, founder of DuBois Law Group and 30 years into practicing, explains why that instinct can backfire. Amanda walks through why conversations with a chatbot have no attorney-client privilege, which means your prompts and the AI's answers can be requested in discovery or subpoenaed. She connects it to something she has seen for decades: journals and diaries are discoverable too, unless you are keeping them at your lawyer's direction for the case. Amanda shares examples that show how a casual comment to a chatbot can carry major legal weight, including how a remark about when your marriage ended could affect a date-of-separation argument worth a million dollars in stock. You'll also hear where AI genuinely helps, like sorting credit card statements or calendars, and why it is usually better to hand that work to your attorney, where it stays privileged. Karen and Amanda talk about the hidden cost of AI-generated questions and AI-edited legal briefs, including hallucinated case citations that your attorney's team then has to untangle at your expense. The episode closes with practical steps: ask your attorney what they are comfortable with you using AI for, and ask any attorney you are considering how they use AI in their own practice. Amanda also shares more about her firm's Seattle, Edmonds, and Port Townsend offices. Karen will revisit this topic every few months as the rules evolve. This conversation was recorded in July 2026. Connect with Amanda: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@AmandaDuBois206 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@amandaduboisauthor Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/amanda.dubois.author, Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amanda-dubois-2b46071/ Websites: www.duboislaw.net, www.amandadubois.com Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Join Divorce Support Network: Back to school offer, 80% off a full year for $99, plus two strategic calls at no cost, one with a coach and one with a financial specialist: https://community.divorcesupportnetwork.com/back-to-school/?utm_source=JBDPodcast&utm_medium=highearningwomen&utm_campaign=back-to-school-2026 Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call This episode is for education only and is not legal advice. Consult an attorney in your state.
October 4 · 37 min
When Women Out-Earn their Spouse: Navigating High-Conflict Divorce with Divorce Coach, Ksenia Muench
High-achieving women often carry the whole household on their shoulders. They build the career, bring home the bigger paycheck, and still come home to the kids, the laundry, and a spouse who assumes they can handle it all. When divorce enters the picture, and especially a high-conflict divorce, that weight doubles overnight. In this episode, Karen McMahon sits down with fellow high-conflict divorce strategist Ksenia Muench, founder of Thrive Again Divorce Coaching and creator of the High Conflict Playbook, who lived her own high-conflict divorce as the higher-earning spouse. Karen and Ksenia start by drawing an important distinction between couples who intentionally chose a stay-at-home dad arrangement and marriages where one partner simply stopped showing up, leaving her to fill every gap. From there, they unpack what makes a divorce truly high conflict: the endless stalling, withheld financial disclosures, petty battles over a single picture on the wall, and a court system that too often looks at two exhausted people and calls them both difficult. They also talk honestly about how the high-conflict spouse knows exactly which buttons to push, why the kids become the bait, and how even the most composed professional woman can get pulled back into the chaos. The conversation then turns to money. Paying alimony as a woman can feel like a deep injustice, especially after years of carrying the load, yet a judge's job is to look at the present numbers and leave the past alone. Karen and Ksenia share how radical acceptance, the choice between a lump sum and monthly payments, and reframing support as the cost of freedom can help women release the bitterness and reclaim their energy. They close with what comes next: dating after divorce. Ksenia explains why high-achieving women often lead with masculine energy, why learning what safety feels like in your own body is the first sign you're ready, and Karen shares a powerful client story about how two very different husbands created the same experience of emotional abandonment. When you do the inner work, you stop attracting the same person in a different face. Connect with Ksenia: Free Guide - Seven Myths of High-Conflict Divorce: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NHnFRsAtF-L5rHdq13ZaQZpdKuwoX4zy/view?usp=share_link Podcast - Uncoupling Unfiltered: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/uncoupled-unfiltered/id1820205268 Website: https://www.thriveagaindivorcecoaching.com/ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thriveagaindivorcecoaching/ Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Join Divorce Support Network: Back to school offer, 80% off a full year for $99, plus two strategic calls at no cost, one with a coach and one with a financial specialist: https://community.divorcesupportnetwork.com/back-to-school/?utm_source=JBDPodcast&utm_medium=highearningwomen&utm_campaign=back-to-school-2026 Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call
September 26 · 14 min
How to Prepare for Divorce: 5 Steps to Take Before You File
Whether you've decided to divorce and haven't told your spouse yet, or the decision has been made for you, the first weeks can bring a wave of fear, guilt, overwhelm and uncertainty. In this solo episode, Karen McMahon, high-conflict divorce coach and founder of Journey Beyond Divorce, explains how to prepare for divorce in a way that protects your emotional health, your finances and your children. After 16 years of coaching, Karen has seen that how you handle the emotional side of divorce shapes how well you handle the legal, financial and co-parenting decisions that follow. She explains why staying present, focusing on what you can control and taking one baby step at a time will serve you better than trying to solve the whole divorce in a single day. Karen then walks through five steps from her free Smart Start Pre-Divorce Checklist. First, she explains why a one-time consultation with a family law attorney matters, even in a high-conflict marriage where your spouse threatens to go scorched earth. She also covers the differences between a litigator, a collaborative attorney, a mediator and an advising attorney. Next she covers how to plan telling your spouse you want a divorce and how to reset your home environment, from separate sleeping arrangements to shared spaces and household tasks. She explains how setting boundaries while you still live together shows you how your spouse is likely to negotiate. She shares guidance on how to tell your kids about the divorce, including when telling them together may not be best. She closes with how a temporary parenting schedule before separation can show you how shared custody might work. Download the free Smart Start Pre-Divorce Checklist here: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/pre-divorce-checklist Feeling overwhelmed and ready for support? Book your free one-hour Rapid Relief Call at https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call to get a new perspective and a clear action step from a Journey Beyond Divorce coach. Join Divorce Support Network with our back-to-school offer: 80% off, a full year for $99, plus two strategic calls at no cost, one with a coach and one with a financial specialist: https://community.divorcesupportnetwork.com/back-to-school/
September 23 · 46 min
10 Year Anniversary Episode: How to Thrive After Divorce: A Midlife Survival Guide with Karen McMahon
To celebrate a decade of Journey Beyond Divorce, we're sharing a special collection of episodes featuring Karen McMahon as a guest on some of her favorite podcasts. Over the years, Karen has joined incredible hosts across the divorce, coaching, and personal growth space to share her story and her expertise. This collection brings those conversations together in one place, offering a look at Karen's voice and message from a different angle, through the eyes of the hosts who welcomed her. Thank you for being part of this journey, and for helping Journey Beyond Divorce grow into what it is today. Karen McMahon on Confessions of a Freebird with Laurie James In this episode, originally recorded for the Confessions of a Freebird podcast, host Laurie James sits down with Karen McMahon, High Conflict Divorce Coach and Strategist with Journey Beyond Divorce, for a candid conversation about thriving after a midlife divorce. Karen shares her own raw divorce story and the mindset shifts she has gained over 15 years, from moving through the emotional rollercoaster and practicing self-compassion to setting boundaries that actually hold. She offers three neutral statements for communicating with a difficult ex without giving in, strategies for co-parenting without becoming emotionally drained, and ways to heal your triggers so toxic patterns don't follow you into future relationships. She also walks through her 3 A's as a path to building a life that aligns with who you truly are. Laurie is a mother, divorcée, recovering caregiver turned author, certified somatic practitioner, and coach who helps people divorce, heal, and date differently in midlife. She is the author of Sandwiched: A Memoir of Holding On and Letting Go, and her podcast is its sequel, a space for women navigating divorce, empty nesting, loss, and reinvention. Learn more about Laurie James and her work at https://www.laurieejames.com/, and listen to Confessions of a Freebird: https://www.laurieejames.com/podcast2 Connect with Karen: Book a FREE Coaching Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call Join Divorce Support Network: Back to school offer, 80% off a full year for $99, plus two strategic calls at no cost, one with a coach and one with a financial specialist: https://bit.ly/jbdpod
September 21 · 40 min
The Divorce Digital Blind Spot: What Your Lawyer Isn't Warning You About with Jonathan Steele, Esq.
Changing the locks is no longer the same thing as changing the access. In this episode, Karen McMahon sits down with Jonathan Steele, a Chicago based family law attorney and certified cybersecurity professional, for a conversation Journey Beyond Divorce has never had in over 425 episodes. Jonathan has spent more than a decade litigating high conflict, high net worth cases, and he brings a layer of technical expertise that most family lawyers simply do not have. Karen opens with the uncomfortable truth that almost nobody going through divorce thinks of themselves as a cybersecurity target. Jonathan walks listeners through what a spouse may still be able to see long after someone has moved out: the Ring camera, the Nest footage, the Gmail account still signed in on an old iPad, the shared iCloud photo album, the luxury car app that logs where the car has been and how fast it was going, the location sharing nobody remembers turning on. He explains why the smart devices that were supposed to make life easier, the robot vacuum, the smart refrigerator, the video doorbell, are often running years old software while sitting on the same Wi-Fi network as every device that holds something sensitive. The front door may have an excellent lock on it. The window screen is full of holes. When Karen asks when in the process people should start addressing this, his answer is immediate. Before you file. Before discovery. Before trial. As soon as you possibly can. Then the conversation gets closer to home. Jonathan describes how children become tracker beacons without anyone intending it, how a single mutual friend inside a list of eight hundred followers can hand a spouse the photograph that ends spousal support, and how one of his own cases terminated a maintenance obligation of more than a million dollars a year because a woman's adult children were quietly feeding her social media posts to their father. She was simply living her life and posting about it, the way everyone does. He also answers a question a growing number of listeners are asking. Conversations with AI about a divorce are discoverable, and lawyers have already started requesting the logs. Karen asks him to triage the overwhelm into a short list, and he does. Move sensitive communication to a more secure messenger. Open a brand new email address. Run the Safety Check tool already built into the iPhone, which was designed for exactly this situation and walks you through revoking access in plain language. Prune the follower lists, including the connections that feel harmless. Cut off camera and car app access. Pause the next time an app requests a permission it has no legitimate reason to want. And for every listener who has been told by friends that she is paranoid and ridiculous, Jonathan offers the line worth the entire episode. It is only paranoia if you are not right about it. One small step a day still counts. This is a marathon, and every setting you turn off is protection you did not have yesterday. Connect with Jonathan Steele: Website: https://steelefamlaw.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/steelefamlaw/ Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Join Divorce Support Network: Back to school offer, 80% off a full year for $99, plus two strategic calls at no cost, one with a coach and one with a financial specialist: https://bit.ly/jbdpod Free Rapid Relief Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call
September 14 · 48 min
How to Stop Anxiety from Controlling Your Divorce Decisions with Mindful Drinking Coach, Colleen Freeland Kachmann
If you've ever felt like you can't think straight, can't stop second-guessing yourself, or can't figure out why you keep making decisions you regret, this episode is for you. One of the most damaging and least talked about effects of divorce is what anxiety does to your decision making. Fear takes over, your nervous system goes into overdrive, and suddenly you're not making choices from a clear, grounded place, you're reacting. Most people don't even realize it's happening until the damage is done, and for many, anxiety and alcohol end up feeding each other during this exact chapter of life. Karen sits down with Colleen Freeland Kachmann, a mindful drinking coach, host of the globally top ranked It's Not About the Alcohol podcast, and founder of the Accelerated Recovery Process, to talk about what anxiety is actually doing to your brain during divorce, why so many people reach for alcohol to cope with that anxiety without realizing that's what's happening, and how to get clear, get grounded, and start making decisions you can trust, with or without a drink in hand. They dig into why anxiety and fear take over during divorce and what's actually happening in your nervous system when they do, how anxious drinking during divorce becomes a coping mechanism for dysregulation rather than an actual solution, how to recognize when anxiety is making your decisions for you even when it doesn't feel like anxiety, and what it feels like to make a decision from a calm, grounded place instead of a fearful or alcohol-numbed one. They also talk about the role of emotional sobriety, a concept that applies whether or not alcohol is part of your story, in rebuilding self-trust during and after divorce, and what Colleen's work helping women change their relationship with alcohol taught her about fear, the nervous system, and self-trust that applies directly to divorce recovery. Colleen Freeland Kachmann is a mindful drinking coach and host of the globally top ranked It's Not About the Alcohol podcast. She helps high-achieving professional women reduce their alcohol consumption using holistic, evidence-based strategies in neurophysiology, nervous system regulation, and growth mindset, without willpower or an all-or-nothing approach to alcohol. Colleen is an addiction and recovery-certified master life coach with an MSc in health coaching, a BS in biology and chemistry, and certification as a women's functional and integrative professional. She founded Recover with Colleen, an intensive group coaching program built around her Accelerated Recovery Process. If this conversation resonated, whether it's the divorce anxiety, the drinking, or both, and you're wondering whether coaching support could help, Karen's Rapid Relief Call is a free way to find out. You can also connect with Colleen through her podcast, It's Not About the Alcohol, and her program, Recover with Colleen. Connect with Colleen: Free Gift: COMING SOON TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@hangoverwhisperer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thehangoverwhisperer Website: https://itsnotaboutthealcohol.com Resources Mentioned in this Podcast: Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: http://rapidreliefcall.com Free Divorce Support Network Gift: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/jbdpod
September 8 · 36 min
10 Year Anniversary Episode: High Conflict Relationships: Self-Love Deficit, Delusions & Boundaries
To celebrate a decade of Journey Beyond Divorce, we're sharing a special collection of episodes featuring Karen McMahon as a guest on some of her favorite podcasts. Over the years, Karen has joined incredible hosts across the divorce, coaching, and personal growth space to share her story and her expertise. This collection brings those conversations together in one place, offering a look at Karen's voice and message from a different angle, through the eyes of the hosts who welcomed her. Thank you for being part of this journey, and for helping Journey Beyond Divorce grow into what it is today. Karen McMahon on the Self-Love Recovery Podcast with Ross Rosenberg In this episode, originally recorded for the Self-Love Recovery podcast, host Ross Rosenberg, M.Ed., LCPC, CADC sits down with Karen McMahon, Chief Visionary and High Conflict Divorce Coach with Journey Beyond Divorce, for an in-depth conversation on high conflict relationships. Together they explore the behaviors and reactions that define these dynamics, from a self-love deficit at their root to the delusions that can keep people stuck, and why setting boundaries is so essential to breaking the cycle. Ross brings decades of clinical expertise in codependency, trauma, and narcissistic abuse to the conversation, while Karen offers her perspective on how these patterns show up in divorce and relationship transitions. Ross is a psychotherapist, educator, and author of The Human Magnet Syndrome, and founder of the Self-Love Recovery Institute, which he created in 2013 as a hub for personal development, workshops, and professional training. Learn more about Ross Rosenberg and the Self-Love Recovery Institute at selfloverecovery.com, and listen to the Self-Love Recovery podcast on all major platforms. Podcast: https://www.selfloverecovery.com/pages/podcast YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/RossRosenberg Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/TheCodependencyCure Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/rossrosenberg_slri Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/RossRosenberg1 TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@rossrosenberg
August 31 · 47 min
The Masculine Dilemma: Why Divorced Men Keep Repeating the Same Mistakes with, Relationship and Men's Work Coach, Geoff Laughton
What if divorce wasn't really about her? That's the question Karen McMahon poses to open this episode of Journey Beyond Divorce, and the question at the center of her conversation with Geoff Laughton, a Relationship and Men's Work Coach with 33 years of experience, 300+ workshops, and thousands of clients. Geoff calls the pattern the "Masculine Dilemma," a set of unconscious traps that quietly erode men's marriages long before divorce ever becomes a possibility. He's also 44 years into his own marriage, so he's not just teaching this work, he's living it. Karen and Geoff dig into what actually drives men toward disconnection: confusion about what masculinity even means today, growing up without strong masculine models, and the gap between who a man was trained to be and who he actually is underneath the training. Geoff unpacks the real differences between masculine and feminine energy, not as stereotypes, but as wiring, and explains why so many marriages die from a thousand tiny paper cuts rather than one big blowup. One of the most useful moments in the episode is Geoff's breakdown of "MSU" (making shit up) and "MUS" (made-up shit), the stories partners tell themselves about what the other person is thinking, without ever actually asking. Karen and Geoff both push back hard on the idea that a partner should "just know" what you need, calling it a setup for failure in any relationship. The conversation also tackles the "Sir Lancelot syndrome," the nice-guy pattern of trying to rescue and fix a partner's every feeling, at the cost of a man's own needs and boundaries, and why that pattern so often ends in resentment rather than intimacy. In the back half of the episode, Geoff walks through what he calls a relationship postmortem: a brutally honest look at what worked, when things started to break down (often, he notes, right around the arrival of the first child), where a man went out of integrity with himself, and what he's committed to doing differently before jumping into the next relationship. Karen and Geoff agree this kind of self-honest inventory, done without self-blame or shame, is essential before dating again. Connect with Geoff: Free E-book: The Masculine Dilemma - https://theundauntedman.com/path Linkedin: www.linkedin.com/ln/theundauntedman and www.linkedin.com/li/yourrelationshiparchitect Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: http://rapidreliefcall.com Free Divorce Support Network Gift: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/jbdpod
August 25 · 43 min
How High-Conflict Childhoods Shape Adult Children with Dr. Sharon Martin, DSW, LCSW
High-conflict divorce doesn't end when the papers are signed. It lives on in the next generation, and often in the very patterns adults bring into their own marriages. In this episode, Karen McMahon sits down with Dr. Sharon Martin to unpack how growing up in a dysfunctional or high-conflict home quietly shapes the adults those children become, showing up years later as codependency, people-pleasing, perfectionism, and conflict avoidance. Karen and Dr. Martin trace how a child's instinct to stay safe around unpredictable or explosive parents can calcify into lifelong habits of self-abandonment, and why so many adults find themselves recreating the very dynamics they swore they'd leave behind. The conversation moves into practical territory, too, exploring what healthy boundaries actually look like, how they differ for a difficult parent versus a difficult boss or friend, and why self-compassion is the starting point for breaking the cycle rather than the reward at the end of it. Karen shares personal stories from her own divorce and parenting journey, and listeners walk away with concrete ways to spot these patterns in themselves and in their children, and real tools to begin interrupting them now. Dr. Sharon Martin is a licensed psychotherapist with over 25 years of experience helping adult children of dysfunctional families untangle the long-term effects of their upbringing, and the author of several self-help books along with a free re-parenting guide available on her website. Connect with Dr. Sharon Website: https://livewellwithsharonmartin.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/sharonmartinlcsw/, Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/dr_sharon_martin/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@SharonMartin Free Gift: 12 Tips for Overcoming Perfectionism (one of over 30 self-help tools available in my free resource library): https://www.livewellwithsharonmartin.com/free/ Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: http://rapidreliefcall.com Free Divorce Support Network Gift: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/jbdpod
August 19 · 30 min
How to Start the Divorce Process... What Most People Get Wrong
You've made the decision, or maybe it's been made for you. Either way, most people do what feels urgent: call a lawyer in a panic, tell their spouse too soon, move out of the house without thinking it through. Those early moves can follow you through the whole process. In this episode, Karen McMahon shares the five essentials to get right before you file, so you move forward with clarity and a plan instead of fear. First, investigate your legal rights, talk to a matrimonial attorney in your jurisdiction before you do anything else, so you understand where you stand on finances, assets, and custody. Second, share the decision strategically, using the BIFF approach (brief, informative, firm, friendly) and a real plan for timing and safety. Third, redefine home life, someone moves out of the master bedroom, and new household rules go into place so your actions match your words. Fourth, tell the kids with a simple, age-appropriate message: we love you, it's going to be okay, you'll still see both of us. Fifth, create a temporary parenting plan and trial a shared schedule, which becomes valuable data for negotiating custody later. Karen also covers whether you actually need a lawyer (almost always, yes) and how to file. Resources Mentioned in This Episode: Smart Start Pre-Divorce Checklist: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/pre-divorce-checklist Explore Divorce Support Network: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/ Book a Rapid Relief Call: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/rapid-relief-call
August 14 · 43 min
Gray Divorce: What Every Man and Woman Over 50 Needs to Know About Retirement, Social Security, and Spousal Support with Certified Divorce Financial Analyst, Andrew Hatherley
Divorce after 50 looks nothing like divorce in your 30s or 40s. Custody battles and parenting plans give way to a different kind of high-stakes negotiation, one centered almost entirely on money: retirement accounts, pensions, Social Security, and spousal support. And with gray divorce rates doubling since 1990 for people over 50, and tripling for those over 65, Karen McMahon believes this is a conversation more couples urgently need. In this episode of the Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast, Karen sits down with Andrew Hatherly, a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), trained mediator, and founder of Transcend Retirement and Wiser Divorce Solutions. Andrew is also the host of The Gray Divorce Podcast, and after navigating his own midlife divorce, has made it his mission to help others understand exactly what's financially at stake before they sign a settlement. Karen and Andrew unpack why gray divorce carries a far higher financial risk than divorce earlier in life, since there's simply less runway to rebuild retirement savings after a late-life split. They explore why bringing a financial expert to the table, alongside an attorney and a divorce coach, is essential in any high conflict divorce, and especially critical when a marriage has spanned decades and retirement accounts, pensions, and home equity are all on the table. The conversation covers what men and women both need to understand about marital property, why "his" retirement account is actually a shared marital asset, and why spousal support calculations vary so widely from state to state. Andrew breaks down a critical but often-overlooked Social Security rule: spouses married 10 years or longer may be entitled to claim benefits based on their former spouse's earnings record, without reducing what their ex-spouse receives, and why couples approaching that 10-year mark should think carefully about timing. They also discuss the tax implications of dividing different types of retirement accounts, why a $500,000 Roth IRA and a $500,000 traditional 401(k) are not actually worth the same in a divorce settlement, and why remarriage can affect spousal support and estate planning decisions down the road. Karen and Andrew close with a candid discussion about what comes after the financial settlement is finalized, and why gray divorce, despite its financial complexity, can also become a powerful catalyst for reinvention, purpose, and a stronger, more intentional third act of life. Whether you're facing high conflict divorce, navigating gray divorce later in life, or are a man trying to understand your financial rights and responsibilities in divorce, this episode offers the financial clarity and strategic insight needed to protect your future and negotiate from a place of knowledge rather than fear. Andrew Hatherly is a Certified Divorce Financial Analyst (CDFA), mediator, and founder of Transcend Retirement and Wiser Divorce Solutions. He is the host of The Gray Divorce Podcast and author of The Gray Divorce Phenomenon, a free guide available at transcendretirement.net. Connect with Andrew: Free Gift: The Gray Divorce Phenomenon, a free guide available at transcendretirement.net. Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/andrewhatherley/ Podcast: https://www.transcendretirement.net/podcast Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: http://rapidreliefcall.com Free Divorce Support Network Gift: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/jbdpod
August 11 · 43 min
Divorce Without Court: Choosing the Right Approach - Mediation, Collaborative Divorce, and Settlement Negotiation with Collaborative Divorce Attorney, Cary Jacobson
Most people assume divorce means courtrooms, legal battles, and losing control of the outcome, but Karen McMahon knows that's not always true. In this episode of the Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast, Karen sits down with Cary Jacobson, a collaborative divorce attorney, mediator, and child advocate, to break down every path to divorce outside of litigation and help listeners understand which one actually fits their situation. Karen and Cary walk through the full spectrum of options, from do-it-yourself kitchen table agreements and settlement negotiation between attorneys, to mediation, to the collaborative divorce process, where both spouses commit to a team-based approach with collaboratively trained attorneys, financial neutrals, and mental health professionals working together toward resolution. They explain how each option works, who it's best suited for, and the real risks of going the DIY route without legal guidance, especially when children, retirement assets, or property division are involved. The conversation dives deep into what makes collaborative divorce unique, including the participation agreement that requires full transparency and commits both parties to staying out of court, and why Karen believes collaborative divorce can be especially powerful in high-conflict situations, cases involving substance abuse, or divorces involving young children. Karen and Cary also unpack how mediation works, when a consulting attorney should be brought in alongside a mediator, and how power imbalances between spouses can shape which process will actually lead to a fair outcome. Karen closes the conversation with a reminder central to everything Journey Beyond Divorce stands for: every person going through divorce is the CEO of their own case, with the right and responsibility to understand their options, ask questions, and choose the process, whether that's mediation, collaborative divorce, settlement negotiation, or litigation, that will protect their family's future. Cary Jacobson is a collaborative divorce attorney, mediator, and child advocate, and the founder of Jacobson Family Law. Connect with Cary: Email:cary@jacobsonfamilylaw.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jacobsonfamilylaw, Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jacobsonfamilylaw/ Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caryjacobson YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC1vZ9kkhd4LPpB1yEqK7U9w Website: https://jacobsonfamilylaw.com/ Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: http://rapidreliefcall.com Free Divorce Support Network Gift: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/jbdpod
August 6 · 41 min
Divorcing with a Special Needs Child: 5 Critical Considerations with Mary Ann Hughes
Parenting a neurodivergent or special needs child already takes constant coordination and advocacy. When divorce enters the picture, Karen McMahon believes those needs don't get simpler, they become the center of every decision. In this episode, Karen sits down with Mary Ann Hughes, founder of Special Family Transitions and a certified special needs divorce coach, mediator, and co-parenting specialist. As the mother of sons on the autism spectrum, Mary Ann brings both lived experience and deep expertise to a conversation most divorce professionals aren't equipped to have. Together they cover five critical considerations for parents of autistic or special needs children going through divorce: managing the emotional overwhelm, understanding the language around autism and neurodiversity, hiring an attorney who truly understands your child's needs, protecting government benefits through first-party and third-party special needs trusts, and navigating high-conflict negotiations without losing sight of what your child actually needs. Mary Ann also shares how she helped her own kids process her divorce, and how that experience led her to co-author My Parents' Divorce Through My Eyes: Helping Children With Autism Understand Divorce. If you're parenting a neurodivergent child through divorce, this episode offers the strategy, language, and reassurance to help you protect your child's future, and your own. Connect with Mary Ann Free Gift: Chapter on Special Needs Divorce in bestselling book, "The Other Side of Divorce" email maryann@specialfamilytransitions.com for your copy TedTalk: https://youtu.be/BW6RWN-k65s?si=d4GO7rLKzjZKB7GQ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/specialfamilytransitions YouTube: https://youtube.com/@specialfamilytransitions TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@SpecialFamilyTransitions Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mary-ann-hughes-special-family-transitions/ Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: http://rapidreliefcall.com Free Divorce Support Network Gift: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/jbdpod Previous Special Needs episode - from the attorney's perspective: Journey Beyond Divorce Podcast: Divorce Roadmap: Children and Divorce: When Special Needs Kids Are Involved on Apple Podcasts
July 31 · 56 min
Healthy Masculinity After Divorce: The Skill Men Were Never Taught with Brent Perkins
Karen McMahon sits down with Brent Perkins, founder of 3x Bold and director of leadership at Front Row Dads, to unpack a pattern she sees constantly in her work with high-achieving men going through divorce: they know how to control themselves, but they were never taught capacity, the ability to stay present in emotional, messy, or uncertain moments without fixing or shutting down. Brent built seven and eight-figure companies, led global teams, and did everything right on paper, until his marriage ended and forced him to confront the patterns his success had never solved. In this conversation, he and Karen explore why divorce becomes a mirror that reveals exactly where a man was performing instead of feeling, controlling instead of trusting, and fixing instead of listening. Together they break down what capacity actually means, energy, attention, and presence, and why building it changes everything from a marriage to a business to a relationship with a teenager. Brent shares the men's work he's done through Front Row Dads, why giving advice almost always makes things worse, and how learning to sit in silence with his own daughter transformed their relationship. He also introduces two practical tools listeners can use immediately: the 60-second timeout and the shift from expectations to agreements, both simple, both surprisingly powerful. This episode is for any man who has felt the ground shift beneath him during a divorce and sensed there was a deeper pattern at play, and for any woman who wants to understand what that experience looks like from the inside. Karen McMahon is the founder of Journey Beyond Divorce and a high conflict divorce strategist who has spent years helping men move through high-conflict divorce with clarity, steadiness, and strength. Connect with Brent Free Gift: Capacity Strategy Session: You couldn't see the pattern that's stealing your capacity while you're still in it. Nobody can. This 20-minute complimentary session shows you what's actually happening, so you have the power to write your next chapter differently. https://www.3xbold.com/strategy Website: www.3xBold.com Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brentrperkins/ Resources Mentioned in this Episode: Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: http://rapidreliefcall.com Free Divorce Support Network Gift: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/jbdpod Curated Podcast Playlists: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/
July 22 · 43 min
When Co-Parenting Isn't an Option: A Trauma-Informed Path to Protecting Your Child with AJ Gajjar, Trauma-Informed Parenting Consultant
Co-parenting is often held up as the gold standard after divorce. But that advice assumes two emotionally healthy, cooperative parents. In high-conflict divorce, and especially in situations involving coercive control, manipulation, or post-separation abuse, that assumption can do more harm than good. In this episode, Karen McMahon is joined by AJ Gajjar, Parenting & Trauma Consultant, child development specialist, and creator of Trauma Healing Parenting, for an important conversation about what children truly need when co-parenting isn't possible. Together, they explore why many parents feel pressured to make co-parenting work, even when ongoing conflict continues to impact both them and their children. They discuss how chronic stress affects a child's developing nervous system, why emotional safety matters more than forced cooperation, and how parents can shift from reacting to conflict toward creating stability and security. Listeners will learn: Why co-parenting isn't always the healthiest option in high-conflict divorce. How to recognize signs that a child is being affected by ongoing relational stress. The difference between co-parenting and parallel parenting—and when each is appropriate. How Trauma Healing Parenting helps parents become the steady, emotionally safe presence their children need. Practical strategies for reducing conflict, strengthening boundaries, and parenting with greater confidence. Whether you're navigating high-conflict divorce, post-separation abuse, or simply questioning whether your current parenting approach is serving your children, this episode offers a compassionate, trauma-informed perspective that replaces guilt with clarity and empowers parents to make decisions rooted in safety rather than obligation. AJ Gajjar is a Parenting & Trauma Consultant, child development specialist, children's advocate, and creator of Trauma Healing Parenting. With more than 18 years of experience in early childhood development and children's mental health, she helps parents navigating high-conflict divorce and post-separation abuse create emotionally safe, healing environments where children can thrive. Connect with AJ Free Gift: "Is It Healthy Co-Parenting?" Quiz: https://www.thetraumahealingparent.com/freegift Explore AJ's Trauma Healing Parenting resources and programs: https://www.thetraumahealingparent.com/kmcmahon Website: www.thetraumahealingparent.com Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/aj.thetraumahealingparent Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/aj-gajjar-50b3b3221/ Resources Mentioned in this Episode: The Steady Circle for Women Navigating High Conflict Divorce: https://www.jbddivorcesupport.com/hcdsg Book a Free Rapid Relief Call: http://rapidreliefcall.com Free Divorce Support Network Gift: https://divorcesupportnetwork.com/jbdpod

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