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Retired Navy SEAL, Jocko Willink and Director, Echo Charles discuss discipline and leadership in business, war, relationships and everyday life.

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  • Wednesday · 3 hr 9 min

    558: What We Can Learn From John Spencer Almost Dying 20 Times.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Urban warfare expert and retired Army officer John Spencer returns to share stories from 20 Times I Almost Died, from Ranger School and Iraq to Ukraine, Gaza, and some incredibly close calls. Along the way, John and Jocko break down leadership, intuition, modern warfare, resilience, and the importance of developing a personal code to live by. 00:00 – John Spencer: 20 Times I Almost Died 02:53 – Kashmir: India, Pakistan & Modern Warfare 05:10 – Lebanon, Hezbollah & the Changing Battlefield 11:17 – Ukraine, Drones & the Future of War 15:54 – Inside a Hamas Tunnel Under Gaza 24:43 – Iraq: Common Sense, Orders & Leadership 39:08 – The IED Trap: Trusting Your Intuition 45:28 – “Pepper”: The Fight That Cost John His Ear 1:08:27 – The “Sopranos of Baghdad” & Humility 1:29:02 – Ukraine, Bucha & the Will to Resist 1:38:00 – Ranger School: “You Can Always Quit Tomorrow” 1:44:03 – The Best Ranger Competition & a 40-Foot Fall 1:55:48 – Iraq: A Deadly Humvee Crash & Duty 2:01:31 – Azerbaijan’s Special Forces & the Battle of Shusha 2:11:08 – Going Full Rambo as an OPFOR Soldier 2:16:01 – The Mission to Capture Saddam Hussein 2:27:05 – The Current Situation in Gaza 2:42:38 – Who Are You? Building a Code to Live By 2:53:21 – Closing Thoughts With John Spencer 2:54:19 – Jocko & Echo Closing / Supporters Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • Monday · 10 min

    Jocko Underground: This is How to be a Dependable Warrior.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< How to be a dependable warrior. At what point does being ultra competitive become a weakness? How to mentally get back on track in life. How to kick the remaining vices in your life. How to guide a 3 year old in life. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • September 9 · 1 hr 37 min

    557: Stop Waiting for the Perfect Answer. Go.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Every decision has consequences—and the small decisions made repeatedly can eventually shape your entire life. Jocko and Echo break down how to make better decisions under uncertainty, when to trust experience and intuition, how to avoid paralysis through analysis, and why effective leaders take action, learn, and adapt. 00:00 — Decisions: The Choices That Shape Your Life 03:33 — How the Marine Corps Teaches Decision-Making 11:50 — Take the Initiative: Keep Them on Their Heels 18:14 — Logic, Intuition, and Emotion 24:57 — Analytical vs. Instinctive Decision-Making 26:28 — Stop Overthinking. Take a Small Action. 34:26 — Detachment: The Decision-Making Superpower 41:34 — The 70% Solution: Stop Waiting for Perfect 46:07 — The OODA Loop: Observe, Orient, Decide, Act 58:46 — Adapt Faster Than the Situation Changes 1:01:23 — Failure, Fear, and Learning Through Action 1:06:13 — Small Decisions, Fast Feedback, Constant Adjustment 1:15:37 — When Being Too Adaptable Becomes a Problem 1:17:59 — Wargaming: Prepare for What Could Go Wrong 1:20:38 — Jocko’s Extreme Ownership Leadership Loop 1:22:29 — Don’t Get Stuck. Make the Decision. Act. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • September 7 · 20 min

    Jocko Underground: The Guy Who Called Out Rener Gracie's Purple Belts and Got Embarrassed.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< The Guy Who Called Out Rener Gracie's Purple Belts and Got Embarrassed. Maxed out for time, but training for a personal challenge. How to solve a problem riddled worker on your team. When a workout partner doesn't have as much dedication. Got beat up by my wife's guy friend. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • September 2 · 1 hr 20 min

    556: The World Belongs to the Brazen and The Brave.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Continuing examination of René Quinton's Maxims on War, exploring courage, danger, ambition, leadership, obedience, and the randomness of combat. The discussion ultimately comes back to a powerful principle for war and everyday life: learn to distinguish real danger from the danger created by your imagination. 00:00 — Maxims on War: Extreme Views and Human Nature 05:34 — War, Death, and the Randomness of Combat 16:57 — Courage, Promotion, and the Danger of Ambition 23:27 — Bravery, Jealousy, and the Power of Example 28:51 — When Danger Becomes Real 34:22 — Real Danger vs. Imagined Danger 40:20 — Courage vs. Recklessness 48:44 — The Leader Multiplies the Team 51:07 — Why It's Easier to Obey Than Decide 57:25 — Questioning Orders and the Burden of Command 1:04:55 — Cowardly Leaders and Decentralized Command 1:11:25 — Do Hard Things. Don't Let Fear Stop You. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • August 26 · 1 hr 29 min

    555: The Nature Of Man Is War

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< René Quinton’s extreme ideas about war, human nature, struggle, and heroism. They examine why humans are drawn to conflict and why a life of comfort may be something worth fighting against. 0:00 – René Quinton & Maxims on War 4:21 – Does Human Nature Love War? 13:22 – Competition vs. Collaboration 16:10 – The Male Psyche: Friend or Foe 24:05 – Why Men Seek Risk, Combat & Danger 31:00 – Tribalism, Fighting & Understanding Jiu-Jitsu 37:04 – Service, Sacrifice & the Nature of Heroes 49:44 – Success, Wealth & Why the Process Matters 58:57 – What Makes a Hero? 1:07:02 – War, Hardship & Why We Reject the Easy Life Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • August 24 · 12 min

    Jocko Underground: The Safety Protocol for Your Kids When They're On Their Own.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< What is the safety protocol for your kids when they are on their own. Training Jiu Jitsu with limitations. The difference between a leadership failure and a hiring failure. How to eliminate crippling doubt while achieving your goals in life. What to do if you suspect your leadership is working against you . Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • August 19 · 1 hr 45 min

    554: Maximum Efficiency On The Front Lines of Battle and Life

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down raw, firsthand combat lessons from U.S. Army soldiers fighting their way through World War II—lessons written in the field by men who had just experienced the consequences of good decisions, bad decisions, aggression, hesitation, discipline, and leadership. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • August 17 · 25 min

    Jocko Underground: Jonah Hill's Tough Talk About His Jiu Jitsu Skill.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Jonah Hill's Tough Talk About His Jiu Jitsu Skill. The best way to get forgiveness after terrible behavior in the past. Thoughts on the worries of climate change and the worlds problems. How to save your marriage if it's on thin ice. Sacrificing sleep for more time during the day. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • August 12 · 3 hr 22 min

    553: Becoming Brothers Through Battle, Death, and Honor in Ramadi. With Miguel "Pitbull" Santana.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Book: Unheard Voices The Fight For Ramadi: A Soldier’s Memoir From Combat Outpost Falcon In 2006, Miguel “Pitbull” Santana and his soldiers entered Ramadi, Iraq—a city many believed was already lost. What followed was months of relentless combat, sacrifice, loss, and brotherhood. Miguel joins Jocko to tell the story from the ground: the firefights, the men who saved each other's lives, the leaders who went first, and the bonds that remain unbroken twenty years later. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • August 10 · 13 min

    Jocko Underground: Why Do People Refuse to Learn or Talk About The Future Of The World Around Us?

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< People don't want to learn about what's coming in the future. The differences in our definition of "Leadership". How to get your kids to take on interests that stick. What to do when you've outgrown the drinking crowd. What to do if you have trust issues with women. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • August 5 · 2 hr 18 min

    552: How The Mindset of A Sniper Apply to Life. With JP Dinnell.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Being a sniper isn't just about shooting. It's about observation, patience, preparation, adaptability, and making the right decision at exactly the right moment. Jocko and JP Dinnell explore the unseen skills behind elite snipers, telling stories from combat while revealing how those same habits create success in leadership, business, and life. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • August 3 · 9 min

    Jocko Underground: If Someone Is From Iran and Wants to Move to The USA?

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< If Someone Is From Iran and Wants to Move to The USA? How to earn respect from people with more experience in life. How to be excellent while balancing family, health, and life. How to be more of an action-taker. How to make things happen when you don't think you have the power or authority. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • July 29 · 2 hr 4 min

    551: Relationships Over Rank. Trust Over Authority

    >Subscribe to Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Breaking down why strong relationships consistently outperform rank, how great leaders develop confident teams instead of micromanaging them, and why every interaction is an opportunity to train. From chain of command to building trust, this episode is a practical guide to creating teams that win under pressure. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • July 27 · 11 min

    Jocko Underground: Keep Your Insanity In a Frustrating World

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< How to Keep Your Insanity In a Frustrating World. Uncontrollable hygiene issues on the Jiu Jitsu mats? Moral-driven altercations in public. What to do. Feeling aimless in life, here's what to do. Rebuilding your life after you messed it up. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • July 22 · 2 hr 10 min

    550: The Company Commander's Playbook for Leadership

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Using the Marine Corps Company Commander's Handbook as a guide, Jocko and Echo discuss what every leader should know before taking over a team: setting expectations, establishing a command philosophy, earning trust, leading through influence, and creating a culture where people thrive. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • July 20 · 10 min

    Jocko Underground: Break The Cycle - Getting Over The Trauma of An Abusive Parent.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Getting Over The Trauma of An Abusive Parent. Should you get in shape before starting JiuJitsu? What to do when your ex is publicly smearing your reputation. How to get two groups to work together who don't like each other. How to handle people around you who don't seem to care about your emotions. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • July 13 · 10 min

    Jocko Underground: Is It Possible to Get The Actual Truth From Modern Media?

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< Is It Possible to Get The Actual Truth From Modern Media? How to prepare for a baby on the way. Getting the most out of learning Jiu Jitsu moves as a beginner. How to motivate a complacent person. Chasing a risky dream when you have a stable job. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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  • July 8 · 1 hr 30 min

    548: The Importance of Morale and How to Develop It.

    >Join Jocko Underground Full Episodes< The military review US Army Command and General Staff College, Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, again, November 1960Drawing from rarely discussed military journals written during the Cold War, Jocko and Echo explore the timeless principles behind morale, trust, courage, and why some leaders inspire extraordinary effort while others don't. Support this podcast at — https://redcircle.com/jocko-podcast/exclusive-content

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