Into The Wilderness with Byron Pace

The Pace Brothers

The world is so much more than what we know, and only through understanding it better can we make informed decisions. This podcast aims to bring impactful, entertaining and insightful conversations from a global array of guests. Some famous, some you won't have heard of. From famous explorers, to renowned scientists and just good people, all have a story to tell which we can take something from. Topics are wide ranging, with a backbone centred on conservation, including hunting, fishing, expeditions, environmental and wildlife management. This is a podcast for everyone who enjoys the great outdoors in any form. It's for those who care about safeguarding the planet and wildlife we share this land with.

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Jul 15, 2020 · 26 min
#153 Behind The Lens: Elias Carlson & Tito West
In Behind The Lens I have the privilege of getting into the heads of some incredible creatives. From filmmakers to designers and writers, we hear the stories behind the stories. In this episode, I am joined by Tito West, Art Director of Modern Huntsman, and Ellias Carlson the driving force behind the design of the publication. We get into their minds by looking at two stories published in volume 5. If you want to get a sneak peek at the articles we are talking about, head over to the Modern Huntsman Instagram, or mine @byronjpace where you can get an insight into the spread and imagery. For more podcast info and links visit www.thepacebrothers.com Tito West: https://titowest.com/ Elias Carlson: https://eliascarlson.com/ www.moderhuntsman.com
Jul 9, 2020 · 1 hr 28 min
#152 Catherine Semcer: Wildlife trade, incentives for conservation & free-market environmentalism
My interview today is with Catherine E. Semcer, a research fellow at the Property and Environment Research Centre. Most of her work there focuses on rights and market-based solutions to policy challenges in environmental security, conservation finance and sustainability. This really is a deep dive into the cogs which make conservation work, and by cogs, I mean how we fund conservation. We look at the interplay between private and public land ownership, how these models work and the complexities of migration corridors cutting across different types of land use (an issue we are dealing with in deer management right now in the UK). We go on to discuss incentivizing conservation in the public good, and how important knowledge exchange is between countries. Towards the middle of the show we dig into the global wildlife trade and what we mean by that, and how harnessing regulated trade can help address social inequality and prevent viral spillovers into humans. We touch on carbon credits, clean water initiatives and the consequences of potential new regulations on wildlife products in California. https://www.perc.org/ https://www.perc.org/people/catherine-e-semcer-2/ Podcast partner: www.modernhuntsman.com www.thepacebrothers.com Patreon support: www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
Jul 2, 2020 · 35 min
#151 Science Shorts: Alaska opens hunting for bear cubs and wolf pups. Jess Johnston reports.
In this episode, I talk with Jess Johnston about the recent headlines seen around the world, highlighting the legislative changes in Alaska which would allow for the hunting of bear cubs and wolf pups in dens. This was obviously met by a widespread outcry against the move. However, as we always try to do on the podcast, I was keen to take a step back and really understand what had happened. The same day the news broke I called Jess to get more information, which sent her down a rabbit warren for an entire week. Normally I would cut these shows down and insert concise summaries, but Jess does such a great job, I have left the show as recorded: the full 30mins around the topic. Jess is the Legislative Liaison and Advocacy Coordinator at Wyoming Wildlife Federation and also sits on the board for directors for 2% For Conservation. She is my go-to person for policy implications to wildlife in North America, and I am really pleased to have her back on the show. If you want to support the show, head over to patreon.com/pacebrothers. If you want to get your hands on the traditions volume of Modern Huntsman, head over to www.modernhuntsman.com For related links head to www.thepacebrothers.com Artwork credit Sergei Ivanov
Jun 25, 2020 · 1 hr 21 min
#150 Dr Amy Dickman: Humanity and sustainability in conservation, lions, National Geographic, trophy hunting & women in conservation
This is an eye-opening discussion to the very heart of what makes conservation work. Dr Amy Dickman is a Caplan Senior Research Fellow at Felid Conservation in the Department of Zoology at Oxford University, as well as sitting on the IUCN Cat Specialist Group, so much of our chat centres around her work with big cats, but we dig deep into how conservation can be made sustainable in the long term, as well as the complexities of human-wildlife conflict, and the common insensitivity of conservation interactions with local communities. We talk about the importance of compassion and humanity in our efforts to conserve wild spaces, and the necessity to implement an international value to resources if we want to protect them. We finish up our chat talking about the famous picture of Amy holding her young child on stage at a National Geographic conference, and what challenges she faced being a woman in the conservation. Amy: https://www.zoo.ox.ac.uk/people/dr-amy-dickman Amy on Twitter: @amydickman4 Support the show: www.patreon.com/pacebrothers Modern Huntsman: www.modernhuntsman.com Website: www.thepacebrothers.com
Jun 18, 2020 · 32 min
#149 Behind The Lens: Derek Malou
Welcome to the into ITW podcast, and our monthly series Behind The Lens, where I speak to photographers, filmmakers and creatives from around the world about breathtaking imagery and film, and the stories behind them. In keeping with the nature of this podcast, much of these conversations are focused around the intersection between wildlife and humans, but occasionally we will expand outside this realm looking at expeditions, human conflict, and social struggle. In this show, I speak to Derek Malou. His work has captivated me for quite some time and as someone who enjoys country pursuits, much of his imagery is focused on the natural world, with an incredible eye for colour, composition and design. You can find him @D_malou on Instagram and the images we talk about in this show on my account, @byronjpace. To see the images we talk about visit: www.thepacebrothers.com/intothewildernesspodcast This podcast is supported by www.modernhuntsman.com To support this show: www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
Jun 18, 2020 · 32 min
#149 Behind The Lens: Derek Malou
Welcome to the into ITW podcast, and our monthly series Behind The Lens, where I speak to photographers, filmmakers and creatives from around the world about breathtaking imagery and film, and the stories behind them. In keeping with the nature of this podcast, much of these conversations are focused around the intersection between wildlife and humans, but occasionally we will expand outside this realm looking at expeditions, human conflict, and social struggle. In this show, I speak to Derek Malou. His work has captivated me for quite some time and as someone who enjoys country pursuits, much of his imagery is focused on the natural world, with an incredible eye for colour, composition and design. You can find him @D_malou on Instagram and the images we talk about in this show on my account, @byronjpace. This podcast is supported by www.modernhuntsman.com To support this show: www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
Jun 18, 2020 · 32 min
#149 Behind The Lens: Derek Malou
Welcome to the into ITW podcast, and our monthly series Behind The Lens, where I speak to photographers, filmmakers and creatives from around the world about breathtaking imagery and film, and the stories behind them. In keeping with the nature of this podcast, much of these conversations are focused around the intersection between wildlife and humans, but occasionally we will expand outside this realm looking at expeditions, human conflict, and social struggle. In this show, I speak to Derek Malou. His work has captivated me for quite some time and as someone who enjoys country pursuits, much of his imagery is focused on the natural world, with an incredible eye for colour, composition and design. You can find him @D_malou on Instagram and the images we talk about in this show on my account, @byronjpace. This podcast is supported by www.modernhuntsman.com To support this show: www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
Jun 11, 2020 · 1 hr 25 min
#148 Merlin Becker: Otterburn research, fire ecology, mountain hare populations & sustainable land management
I sit down with Merlin Becker, who previously worked for the GWCT at their model research farm in Scotland. We discuss methods of sustainable land management tackling a wide spectrum of topics: from the Otterburn research project to the use of fire for ecological sustainability; we delve into the crossover between traditional knowledge and science and talk through the new hare counting methodology, curlew conservation and raven control. More information on papers mentioned in this show can be found at: https://www.thepacebrothers.com/intothewildernesspodcast Podcast partner: www.modernhuntsman.com Patreon support: www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
Jun 4, 2020 · 21 min
#147 Science Shorts: Mercury in our oceans with Professor Yanxu Zhang
In this week's show, digging into the science of conservation, we look at the environmental issue of mercury in our oceans. Speaking with Professor Yanxu Zhang, we discuss how mercury gets into our atmosphere eventually becoming the bioaccumulative toxin methyl mercury, and this impacts oceanic food webs ending with human consumption. For full show notes visit: https://www.thepacebrothers.com/intothewildernesspodcast Support the show at patreon.com/pacebrothers
May 28, 2020 · 1 hr 31 min
#146 Ryan Youngblood: Dodging bullets, civil war, conservation conflict, documentary film-making & charging elephants
Oh my, what an amazing conversation. I chat with filmmaker Ryan Youngblood as we journey through just a little bit of his life and career. From hunting and conservation in the Central African Republic, to working in India, Nepal, Tanzania, DRC, to dodging bullets and bombs in Iraq, you will be left in awe of what this guy has done. You will also hear me talk for the first time about an elephant charge last year, and we both discuss the moral conflict of documentary film making and the consideration of risk and our own mortality. It gets deep. https://www.ryanyoungblood.com/ For more show notes visit: www.thepacebrothers.com Show partner: www.modernhuntsman..com Support the show on Patreon www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
May 21, 2020 · 32 min
#145 Behind The Lens: Max Lowe
Joined this episode by the extraordinarily talented film director and photographer Max Lowe, we start by discussing his current film project: a documentary of his families story in a way never exposed before. Then, we take a behind the scenes dive into some of his recent fine art prints on the Modern Huntsman website. From polar bears to bison, the highest mountain on earth to the most southerly landmass on the planet, it's an audio expedition around the world. To see the images: https://modernhuntsman.com/standard-edition?category=Max+Lowe To support the show visit: https://www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
May 14, 2020 · 1 hr 17 min
#144 Conor Knighton: National Parks, John Muir, bison, Alaska & finding yourself
I am joined by Conor Knighton, who has just released his book Leave Only Footprints, chronicling his journey of discovery through the National Parks of North American. After learning about his background in TV, we dig into the origins of the National Parks, starting with John Muir and Teddy Roosevelt, and go onto discuss bison, hunting caribou, the rare pupfish, the recovery of the channel island fox populations and speculate as to why people move to Alaska. It is a story of self-discovery as much as it is about the experiences. If you are even remotely interested in the outdoors, this is an interview not to miss. http://www.conorknighton.com/ Conor's book: https://www.amazon.com/Leave-Only-Footprints-Acadia-Zion/dp/198482354X/ Podcast partner: www.modernhuntsman.com Visit: www.thepacebrothers.com for more show notes Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
May 11, 2020 · 30 min
#143 Science Shorts: Marine conservation & fish stocks with Daniel Skerritt
We dive into the complex world of marine management and conservation, discussing fish stock declines with Postdoctoral Research Fellow, Daniel Skerritt, from the Fisheries Economics Research Unit at the University of British Columbia. We talk about the role of science and how society values resources; critical elements for successful conservation outcomes. Visit www.thepacebrothers.com for more information and links.
Apr 30, 2020 · 44 min
#142 Professor Adam Hart: The Trophy Hunting question.
This week we go trophy hunting with a scientist. Well, not really, but we certainly dig into the complex nature of conservation, and discuss the realities implementing mechanisms for environmental protection in Africa, and discuss if trophy hunting can play a role in this. What are the alternatives and what does the science tell us? Support the podcast: https://www.patreon.com/pacebrothers Podcast partner: www.modernhuntsman.com Professor Adam Hart on Twitter: @adamhartscience More info: www.thepacebrothers.com
Apr 17, 2020 · 36 min
#141 Behind The Lens: Tito West & Tyler Sharp
In an introduction to a new series, taking a behind the scenes look at images, film and writing, with the creatives who made them happen, Byron Pace sits down with Tyler Sharp and Tito West. This honest, reflective discussion presents what we see in a new light. Podcast partner: www.modernhuntsman.com Print shop: https://modernhuntsman.com/print-shop Visit: www.thepacebrothers.com Support on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
Apr 16, 2020 · 1 hr 38 min
#140 The great lead debate: lead ammunition, toxicity, birds of prey, shooting community
Pulling in interviews with multiple guests, I dig into the great lead debate. Some weeks back the UK shooting organisations announced a planned phase-out of lead ammo for shotguns within the next five years. The backlash was swift, but what is the truth and what does the science say? I chat with avian vet Tom Dutton, falconer Roy Lupton, Vintage gun specialist Diggory Haddoke, Danish hunter David CP, Dan Reynolds from the British Association for Shooting and Conservation, and hear from Professor Debbie Pain from Cambridge University, to provide a comprehensive view on the subject. Information on scientific papers: https://science.peregrinefund.org/legacy-sites/conference-lead/2008PbConf_Proceedings.htm Podcast supporter: www.modernhuntsman.com www.thepacebrothers.com Support on patreon: https://www.patreon.com/pacebrothers
Apr 9, 2020 · 14 min
#139 ITW Shorts: COVID-19 support exclusions for fieldsports
Ross Ewing joins me from the British Association for Shooting and Conservation to discuss the current support available for the shooting industry in the UK during the COVID-19 pandemic, and how the Scottish Government have excluded all support for businesses involved in shooting and fishing. More info: https://basc.org.uk/ www.thepacebrothers.com
Apr 9, 2020 · 24 min
#138 ITW Shorts: Tyler Sharp. Freelancer Fund, Mission for Masks, COVID19, Modern Huntsman
With Modern Huntsman launching two initiatives to help people during this time of crisis, Editor in Chief, Tyler Sharp, joins me on this week show to talk about establishing the Freelancer Fund, and a joint initiative to help Mystery Ranch fund medical mask production. We also find time to discuss the upcoming publication of volume 5, with a sneak preview into what you can expect. For more info visit: www.modernhuntsman.com www.thepacebrothers.com
Apr 2, 2020 · 1 hr
#137 Levison Wood: The Last Giants, isolation, elephants, poaching, terrorism & African conservation
Renowned British explorer, Levison Wood comes back on the show to talk about his new book, The Last Giants, chronicling the evolution and history of elephants, examining the challenges they face today through poaching, terrorism and land-use changes in Africa. We also find time to talk about how he is using his current time in isolation and shed some light on his photography process as a Leica Pro-Photographer. Book: https://www.waterstones.com/book/the-last-giants/levison-wood/9781529381122 www.thepacebrothers.com Podcast partner: www.modernhuntsman.com
Mar 26, 2020 · 14 min
#136 Science Shorts: Sea otters return. Western science meets indigenous knowledge.
Welcome to ITW shorts, the first in a new series of short shows, diving into the world of wildlife science and conservation. We are escaping today, in our minds at least, to the coast of British Columbia, to the archipelago of Haida Gwaii. I pick up a story with Dr Jason Goldman, looking at the re-introduction of expatriated wild sea-otters, and the implications of their return on local communities and the eco-system. Article: https://www.biographic.com/restoring-harmony-in-haida-gwaii/ Jason Goldman: http://www.jasonggoldman.com/ www.thepacebrothers.com www.modernhuntsman.com