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  • S2 · E11
    August 19 · 46 min

    Vodafone's El-Sayed on insourcing software development

    In this episode of Inside Out, Mark Newman and Willie Stegmann speak with Vodafone Group CIO Ahmed El-Sayed about the transformation of the technology function in the AI era. Topics covered include how to bring AI across the entire software development lifecycle, people transformation and the changing roles of software engineers and architects, and building AI into customer journeys.

  • July 13 · 9 min

    DTW26: AI moves to deployment at scale

    TM Forum members at this year's DTW Ignite 2026 demonstrated many examples of how AI adoption and autonomy have entered a new phase of adoption. They also debated how to address the challenges of effecting organizational change and implementing trustworthy AI at scale, as you will hear in this summary. In keeping with the theme of AI deployment, TM Forum's AI agent, AIVA, drew on dozens of presentations and debates from the event to produce the summary. Meanwhile, Aaron Boasman-Patel, Vice President Innovation, TM Forum is the 'human in the loop' providing the curation and narration.

  • July 13 · 9 min

    DTW26: AI moves to deployment at scale

    TM Forum members at this year's DTW Ignite 2026 demonstrated many examples of how AI adoption and autonomy have entered a new phase of adoption. They also debated how to address the challenges of effecting organizational change and implementing trustworthy AI at scale, as you will hear in this summary. In keeping with the theme of AI deployment, TM Forum's AI agent, AIVA, drew on dozens of presentations and debates from the event to produce the summary. Meanwhile, Aaron Boasman-Patel, Vice President Innovation, TM Forum is the 'human in the loop' providing the curation and narration.

  • S2 · E10
    July 9 · 40 min

    BT's Leukert on future IT skills

    Peter Leukert, Chief Digital Officer at BT, discusses with TM Forum how an AI-native future depends of nurturing future skills and building strong foundations in data management, cybersecurity, testing and software engineering

  • S2 · E9
    June 4 · 33 min

    How Telstra is putting knowledge in the network

    Mark Sanders, Chief Architect, Tesltra, discusses with Guy Lupo, Executive Vice President, AI & Data Innovation, TM Forum, how the operator is addressing security, governance and trust as it builds the next phase of network autonomy on a foundation of a composable architecture Sanders and Lupo explore Telstra's vision of a knowledge plane, which transforms data into structured, machine-readable intelligence that enables autonomous network systems to make trusted decisions. Alongside this, they address the concept of model-as-a-service and why it is emerging as a critical capability, helping telcos harness rapidly evolving AI models without being overwhelmed by complexity, cost or risk. The also focus on the importance of trust as telcos evolve their architectures, operations and use of AI to create autonomus operations that deliver new customer experiences.

  • S2 · E8
    May 21 · 23 min

    Telefónica's foundations for AN Level 4

    Telefónica has set ambitious goals for network autonomy in Spain, Brazil and Germany, as the group's Global Chief Technology and Information Officer, Andrea Folgueiras, discusses with George Glass, TM Forum's CTO. Folgueiras explores how and why the company is taking a holistic approach to delivering autonomous networks, from redesigning processes end-to-end, through to rethinking organizational structures, addressing governance and reskilling people.

  • S2 · E7
    May 6 · 44 min

    How Swisscom is approaching AI-driven transformation

    In early 2026 Swisscom started a multi-year effort to modernize the digital software core that powers its B2C and B2B businesses. In this webinar we talk to CTIO MarkDusener about the role of AI in the transformation and how it offers CSPs the possibility of transitioning to an open, composable architecture even across those applications, which until now have remained dependent on legacy systems.

  • S2 · E6
    April 15 · 50 min

    6G, AI, and the transatlantic investment divide

    Few people are better qualified to reflect on the future of our industry than former T-Mobile USA President of Technology Ulf Ewaldsson. In this podcast Ulf explores how the mobile industry can catch a ride on the AI wave as it transitions from 5G to 6G, the future path to relevance and prosperity for mobile operators, and the growing investment gap between the USA, Asia and Europe. Guest Speaker: Ulf Ewaldsson, Former CTO, T Mobile USA Host: Mark Newman, Chief Analyst, TM Forum

  • S2 · E5
    April 1 · 35 min

    Colt's Chief Digital Information Officer on adapting to AI disruption

    Ashish Surti, Chief Digital Information Officer, Colt Technology Services, discusses how AI is accelerating software development and the challenges of developing longer-term technology strategies in a swiftly changing environment. Among the topics he covers is the changing relationships with vendors; how AI is impacting internal software development, as well as measuring the business value of AI. Guest speaker: Ashish Surti, Chief Digital Information Officer, Colt Technology Services Hosts: Mark Newman, Chief Analyst, TM Forum Joanne Taaffe, Editor in Chief, TM Forum

  • S2 · E4
    March 18 · 45 min

    Howard Watson on AI and telco foundations

    Howard Watson, who is retiring from his role as BT's Chief Security and Networks Officer, shares his perspective on today's telecoms industry gained from more than 40 years in the technology and telecoms space. Guest speakers: Howard Watson, Chief Security & Networks Officer, BT Host: Mark Newman, Chief Analyst, TM Forum Joanne Taaffe, Editor in Chief, TM Forum

  • S2 · E3
    March 4 · 36 min

    Axiata CIO on how software platforms are transforming its business

    Axiata Group is one of the most innovative operator groups in Asia. Its Ideamart API monetization platform is the most successful of its type in the global CSP community. In this podcast we talk with Axiata Group CIO Anthony Rodrigo and TM Forum Executive Vice President Willie Stegmann about the external and internal forces that are forcing CIOs to "reinvent" the IT function in the AI era. We also hear from Anthony about the emergence of Axiata Digital Labs as the software engineering function that is transforming IT operations across Axiata opcos. Discussion points What are the most important business drivers for the "reinvention" of the IT function? What are the key dimensions of your transformation journey? How do ensure successful achievement of benefits/ outcomes? As Co-Chair of the CIT&E Mission, is ODA still relevant? What must change ? Why do you think Axiata is so much more advanced in its thinking - and its implementation of modern, open, cloud-based approaches to enterprise architectures? Have you been able to measure / track the benefits of an open digital architecture? Tell us about Axiata Digital Labs and its relationship / synergies with the group IT organization and opco IT functions. How does the "group" IT function work with the opcos across the Axiata group. Platform / API monetization. Where we are at and where we are going. Where are you in terms of leveraging AI within the IT organization? Guest Speakers: Anthony Rodrigo, Group CIO, Axiata Willie Stegmann, EVP, Composable IT & Ecosystems, TM Forum Host: Mark Newman, Chief Analyst, TM Forum

  • S2 · E2
    February 19 · 47 min

    IOH's CTO on building trusted AI at scale

    Indonesia's IOH is seeking to change how it serves customers and runs its business by becoming an AI-native techco. This entails building sovereign AI solutions for enterprises; supporting the country's efforts to democratize the use of AI tools by Indonesians for Indonesians; and using AI to enhance its network and business operations. A central concern for IOH and other telcos is trust, particularly in complex, multi‑agent AI environments where autonomous agents can generate code, create other agents, and change behavior in real time. Both speakers stressed that traditional governance, security, and monitoring models are no longer sufficient for these dynamic systems. Linked to trust is data sovereignty and security. Cheung emphasized the importance of keeping sensitive data and AI models within national borders, noting that enterprise and government customers require strong assurances that data remains under local jurisdiction. Ensuring sovereignty across increasingly global and software‑driven AI supply chains adds further complexity. They also discussed how audits and procurement reviews are too slow and costly for an AI ecosystem that may involve thousands of agents and suppliers. Instead, they argued for platform‑based governance, continuous monitoring, and industry‑wide trust frameworks that treat trust as an ongoing business capability rather than a one‑off compliance exercise. Finally, both acknowledged the difficulty of demonstrating near‑term value from AI investments while simultaneously building long‑term foundations, highlighting the need for shared case studies and reusable platforms to balance cost, risk, and innovation. Guest speakers: Desmond Cheung, CTO, IOH Guy Lupo, EVP - AI and Data Innovation, TM Forum Host: Joanne Taaffe, Editor in Chief, TM Forum

  • S2 · E1
    February 5 · 44 min

    Orange Group CIO on why speed is a matter of survival

    Orange Group CIO Koen Vermeulen is in no doubt about the impact of AI on the telecoms sector, Rather than viewing it merely as a tool to accelerate transformation, Vermeulen reckons that AI represents a transformative force that is changing how industries are operating. In this podcast we explore how and where AI is already being adopted within Orange's IT organization. The use of AI to drive greater speed in the IT organization is a theme comes up regularly in our discussion and Koen speaks with huge enthusiasm about using the power of AI to fundamentally transform the Software Development Lifecyle. Guest Speakers: Koen Vermeulen, Global CIO, Orange Willie Stegmann, EVP, Composable IT & Ecosystems, TM Forum Host: Mark Newman, Chief Analyst, TM Forum

  • S1 · E21
    January 20 · 26 min

    TechCo, people and culture: reskilling and leadership for the AI era

    Rene Felber is Chair of the TM Forum TPAC (TechCo, People and Culture) Collaboration Project, and he is joined by Ishari Siriwardane, General Manager for Transformation at SLT and key member of the group. In this podcast they speak to TM Forum's Principal Analyst Dean Ramsay about group's aims and progress. The conversation focuses on the impact AI is having on telecoms people and culture and what strategies the group are seeing from a leadership perspective. Are telco leaders making the right decisions on reskilling?

  • S1 · E20
    Sep 23, 2025 · 39 min

    Building a telco API business for Africa

    Saad Syed, CEO of Chenosis — MTN's API monetization venture — reveals how the company is shaping the future of Africa's digital economy. From a bold start-up culture to focused vertical strategies and early market wins, discover how Chenosis is unlocking new opportunities and driving innovation across the continent. Guest Speakers: Saad Syed, CEO, Chenosis Host: Mark Newman, Chief Analyst, TM Forum

  • #19
    Sep 11, 2025 · 41 min

    RAN market dynamics and the future mobile landscape

    Veteran analyst Stéphane Téral, Founder & Chief Analyst at Téral Research, joins TM Forum Senior Analyst Richard Webb to discuss the 5G landscape, drawing on historic CSP investment cycles, the role of AI and automation in RAN, and what the future may hold with 6G.

  • #18
    Aug 21, 2025 · 30 min

    How AI is changing the role of telco-to-telco services

    In this episode, we explore how AI is reshaping telco-to-telco services and transforming the way operators collaborate. Tom Loozen, Managing Partner at Telco+, NCS, and Mark Newman, Chief Analyst at TM Forum, share their insights on the opportunities, challenges, and future of AI in the telecoms space.

  • #17
    Jun 17, 2025 · 15 min

    DTW Ignite: Judging telco Excellence

    This year's judges of TM Forum's Excellence Awards give a behind the scenes glimpse into how they choose the winners and why.

  • #16
    May 13, 2025 · 40 min

    Who owns telco innovation?

    During more than 20 years as CTO of Telus Ibrahim Gedeon played a large role in shaping change in both the company where he worked and the industry. Now, as CTO Emeritus of Telus he shares a frank assessment of the telecoms landscape in a discussion with Mark Newman, Chief Analyst, TM Forum.

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