NewsBusiness NewsTech NewsBusinessManagement

Future Finance

Glenn Hopper & Paul Barnhurst

Future Finance is a podcast that delves into the transformative world of finance hosted by Paul Barnhurst, aka The FP&A Guy, and Glenn Hopper, emphasizing the impact of technology and artificial intelligence within the finance profession. Each episode brings listeners the latest news on AI and financial technology, insightful discussions, expert analyses, and forward-thinking ideas, exploring how AI and technological innovations are reshaping corporate finance as we know it. The podcast will become a must-listen for anyone interested in the evolving intersection of technology and finance

Play

Open in

29 episodes
weekly
Avg 31 min
English

Episodes 29

Newest Oldest Longest

All20 Unplayed20 In progress0 Played0

Counted on this page — what you have heard stays on this device, so it is not something the list can be paged by.

#116
Yesterday · 22 min
Stop Chasing AI Models. Build Better Processes With Glenn
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper discuss how AI is reshaping finance technology, whether traditional SaaS platforms are at risk, and how CFOs should approach software decisions. They explore when to buy existing solutions, build custom workflows, or use AI to improve finance processes without replacing core systems. In this episode, you will discover: How AI is changing the finance tech stack and challenging traditional SaaS. When finance teams should buy software or build custom solutions. What the Finance Stack Survey reveals about AI adoption. Why agentic AI differs from traditional automation. How data quality and integration affect AI success. Paul and Glenn explain that AI can help finance teams automate tasks, connect systems, and access financial information faster. However, businesses still need dependable core software, clear data practices, and appropriate safeguards. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today's Episode: [01:24] - Is SaaS at Risk? [03:38] - Choosing Core Finance Systems [05:52] - Buy vs. Build [07:55] - Finance Stack Survey [10:51] - Understanding Agentic AI [13:57] - AI Adoption & Software Satisfaction [18:36] - Data Plumbing & Integration Challenges [20:52] - Survey Findings & Closing Thoughts
#115
October 21 · 43 min
How to Choose Finance Software Without Waiting for AI to Settle with Glenn Hopper
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper discuss how AI is changing the finance technology stack and what it means for CFOs deciding whether to buy new software, build custom solutions, or improve their existing systems. They explore whether AI could disrupt traditional SaaS platforms, where agentic AI is delivering value, and why core financial systems remain essential. In this episode, you will discover: Why AI is changing finance technology without replacing core systems. What the Finance Stack Survey reveals about AI adoption. The difference between agentic AI and traditional automation. When finance teams should buy software or build custom solutions. Why data quality, integration, and security matter for AI success. Paul and Glenn emphasize that finance leaders should focus on solving real business problems rather than chasing new technology. The key is choosing reliable tools, improving data connectivity, and using AI where it delivers meaningful value. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today's Episode: [00:00] - Trailer [04:21] - Is SaaS at Risk? [10:27] - Buy vs. Build: Filling the Gaps [11:09] - Finance Stack Survey Findings [14:00] - What Is Agentic AI? [18:20] - AI Adoption and Software Satisfaction [23:36] - Data and Integration Challenges [29:41] - Custom AI Solutions [36:17] - The Future Finance Stack [42:51] - Closing Thoughts
#114
October 14 · 22 min
Stop Chasing Every AI Model and Build Better Finance Processes with Glenn Hopper
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper discuss why finance professionals should stop chasing every new AI model and focus instead on building strong processes, durable skills, and better workflows. They also explore the race toward AGI, AI guardrails, and how quickly the technology landscape is changing. Paul and Glenn explain that the real advantage is not knowing every new model or benchmark. It is knowing how to use AI effectively, understand processes, and build systems that can adapt as the tools continue to evolve. In this episode, you will discover: Why keeping up with every new AI model is becoming impossible. Why process design matters more than chasing the latest tool. How AI is changing the way finance professionals work. Which AI skills are likely to remain valuable over time. Why governance and guardrails matter as automation increases. Paul and Glenn explain that finance professionals do not need to master every new AI release. Instead, they should choose useful tools, learn the fundamentals, and focus on building repeatable processes that can work across platforms. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today's Episode: [00:58] - The Race for AGI [04:31] - AGI Risks, Regulation & Uncertainty [07:12] - AI Is Moving Too Fast [10:32] - Astra vs. Claude [15:09] - Secret CFO’s Take on AI Updates [21:38] - Wrap-Up
#113
October 7 · 46 min
AI Is Accelerating Faster Than Humans Can Keep Up: What Should Finance Pros Do
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper discuss the accelerating pace of AI development and why trying to keep up with every new model is becoming a losing battle. They explore what finance professionals should focus on instead, including AI workflows, process design, data, governance, and automation. Paul and Glenn also discuss how AI is changing the way finance teams work. As tools become more capable, they believe the lasting advantage will come from knowing how to structure processes, give clear instructions, manage AI-powered workflows, and apply human judgment where it matters most. In this episode, you will discover: Why finance professionals should stop chasing every new AI model. Which AI skills are likely to remain valuable as tools continue to change. Why process thinking, data, and orchestration are becoming more important. What risks finance teams should consider when using vibe coding and automation. Why governance and human oversight still matter in AI-powered workflows. Paul and Glenn explain that finance professionals do not need to constantly switch tools to gain value from AI. Instead, they should focus on building strong processes that can work across different platforms as the technology continues to evolve. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today's Episode: [00:00] - Welcome [02:21] - The Race for AGI [08:28] - AI Is Moving Fast [17:38] - Stop Chasing Models [19:43] - Durable AI Skills [25:03] - Data & Orchestration [28:08] - Vibe Coding Risks [32:18] - AI Governance [34:42] - The Cost of AI [42:07] - What to Focus On [44:35] - Closing Thoughts
#112
September 30 · 18 min
AI Can Give You the Right Answer to the Wrong Question with Matija Nakić
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Glenn Hopper and Paul Barnhurst sit down with Matija Nakic, CEO and Co-founder of Farseer, to discuss how AI is changing financial planning, enterprise software, and decision-making. Matija shares why asking the right questions matters, how AI can accelerate planning workflows, and why strong data foundations remain essential. Matija Nakic is the CEO and Co-founder of Farseer, an AI-native SaaS platform for business modeling, planning, and analysis. With a background in computer engineering, an MBA, and experience across B2B enterprise software, she progressed from developer to product director before co-founding Farseer. In this episode, you will discover: Why asking the right questions matters with AI. How finance can move toward a decision culture. Why clean data and context still matter. How AI can speed up modeling and planning. When Excel still makes sense for finance teams. Matija also pushes back on the idea that Excel is obsolete. She argues that spreadsheets remain excellent for rapid modeling and individual analysis, but become harder to manage when collaboration, large datasets, version control, and auditability enter the picture Follow Matija: LinkedIn: https://hr.linkedin.com/in/matija-nakic Company: https://www.farseer.com/ Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [02:18] - Why Farseer Was Built [04:12] - Solving Complex Enterprise Planning [05:11] - AI, Vibe Coding & Enterprise Software [06:57] - Building Farseer’s AI Modeler [10:05] - How AI Accelerates Development [11:33] - Building for Technical Finance Users [12:41] - Why Asking the Right Questions Matters [15:37] - AI Context, Guardrails & Governance [17:30] - Why Strong Data Foundations Still Matter [18:23] - Closing Thoughts
#111
September 23 · 41 min
AI, Decision Culture, and the Future of Enterprise Finance with Matija Nakic
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Glenn Hopper and Paul Barnhurst sit down with Matija Nakic, CEO and Co-founder of Farseer, to discuss how AI is changing financial planning, enterprise software, and decision-making. Matija shares why asking better questions matters, how finance teams can build stronger AI workflows, and where Excel still fits in modern planning. Matija Nakic is the CEO and Co-founder of Farseer, an AI-native SaaS platform for business modeling, planning, and analysis. With a background in computer engineering, an MBA, and experience across B2B enterprise software, she has progressed from developer to product director and now leads Farseer’s mission to improve how financial professionals plan, model, and make decisions. In this episode, you will discover: Why asking the right questions matters with AI. How finance can build a stronger decision culture. Why clean data and governance still matter. How AI can speed up planning and forecasting. When to use Excel versus planning software. AI can dramatically accelerate finance work, but speed alone does not create better decisions. Matija explains that effective AI adoption still depends on fundamentals such as clean data, consistent definitions, connected data sources, business logic, and human judgment Follow Matija: LinkedIn: https://hr.linkedin.com/in/matija-nakic Company: https://www.farseer.com/ Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] - Trailer [05:22] - Why Farseer Was Built [08:35] - AI and the Future of Enterprise Software [13:30] - Building Faster with AI [17:24] - Why Asking the Right Questions Matters [22:55] - The Three Levels of AI Adoption [24:57] - Building a Decision Culture [32:04] - When Excel Is Still the Right Tool [35:57] - Governance, Context & Audit Trails [36:37] - Rapid-Fire Questions [39:21] - Turning Frustration with Planning Into Farseer [40:59] - Closing Thoughts
#110
September 16 · 18 min
Why CFOs Should Lead AI Adoption Instead of Leaving It Solely to IT
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Glenn Hopper about his new book, The AI-Ready CFO, and what finance leaders need to do to successfully adopt AI. Glenn explains why CFOs must take a leadership role in AI strategy, how finance can balance innovation with risk management, and why successful AI implementation starts with data readiness, process improvement, and strong governance. In this episode, you will discover: Why CFOs should lead AI adoption. How finance can balance AI, speed, and risk. Why data readiness is essential before AI implementation. How to build trust through governance and transparency. How to create effective AI pilots and scale success. Glenn explains that AI adoption is not just about choosing new tools. Finance leaders need to understand their current processes, establish a baseline, identify opportunities, run focused pilots, and use evidence to decide what should be scaled. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Glenn’s new book: The AI-Ready CFO https://robocfo.ai/ai-ready-cfo Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] - Trailer: The AI-Ready CFO [03:54] - The AI-Ready CFO Explained [08:59] - The Changing CFO Role [13:27] - Why Finance Should Lead AI [16:46] - AI Change Management [21:32] - Building an AI Strategy [27:39] - Trust, Governance & AI [32:32] - Transparent AI Processes [36:30] - AI Build vs. Buy [40:02] - Building AI Agents [43:21] - Closing Thoughts
#109
September 9 · 46 min
The CFO Should Own AI, Not IT | Glenn Hopper on The AI-Ready CFO
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst speaks with Glenn Hopper about his new book, The AI-Ready CFO, and how finance leaders can successfully navigate AI adoption. Glenn explains why CFOs need to take ownership of AI strategy, how to balance speed with risk, and why strong governance, data readiness, and change management are essential for building trust in AI. In this episode, you will discover: Why CFOs need to play a leading role in AI adoption. How finance teams can balance AI speed with governance and risk management. Why data readiness and process documentation are critical before implementing AI. How to build trust in AI through transparency, audit trails, and human oversight. How CFOs can create effective AI pilot programs and scale successful initiatives. AI adoption is not just about selecting new tools. Glenn explains that successful implementation starts with understanding current processes, improving data readiness, creating measurable baselines, and building systems that allow people to trust AI outputs. For CFOs, the future role is not becoming an AI engineer, but becoming the leader who ensures AI is used responsibly and effectively across the organization. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Glenn’s new book: The AI-Ready CFO https://robocfo.ai/ai-ready-cfo Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] - Trailer: The AI-Ready CFO [03:54] - The AI-Ready CFO Explained [08:59] - The Changing CFO Role [13:27] - Why Finance Should Lead AI [16:46] - AI Change Management [21:32] - Building an AI Strategy [27:39] - Trust, Governance & AI [32:32] - Transparent AI Processes [36:30] - AI Build vs. Buy [40:02] - Building AI Agents [43:21] - Closing Thoughts
#108
September 2 · 19 min
Why Better Workflows Matter More Than Better Prompts
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper discuss AI fatigue and why finance professionals should focus less on chasing new models and more on using AI effectively. They share practical ways to improve AI results through better instructions, reference files, context, and data foundations. In this episode, you will discover: Why AI fatigue is becoming a real challenge. Why prompting alone is no longer enough. How context and reference files improve AI results. Why clean data and clear KPIs matter. How finance teams can start using AI more effectively. Paul and Glenn emphasize that finance teams do not need to build complicated systems immediately. Starting with clear data definitions, documented sources, and simple context files can already make AI much more useful. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today's Episode: [00:00] - Introduction [01:07] - AI Fatigue [04:09] - Using AI Effectively [05:44] - The Changing Role of Prompting [07:40] - AI for Financial Modelling [11:37] - AI and Finance Data [14:47] - Building a Data Foundation [18:10] - Practical AI Tips [19:08] - Closing Thoughts
#107
August 26 · 42 min
How Finance Pros Should Manage Data Context and Token Forecasting
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper discuss AI fatigue, better ways for finance teams to use AI, and the growing challenge of forecasting AI costs. They explore why finance leaders should focus less on chasing new models and more on building the data, context, and workflows needed to get real value from AI. In this episode, you will discover: Why finance teams should stop chasing every new AI model. Why context is becoming more important than prompting alone. How better KPIs and data foundations improve AI results. How organizations can forecast and manage AI token costs. Why AI success should be measured by business outcomes. Paul and Glenn explain why effective AI adoption isn't about using the most tokens or knowing every new tool. It's about using AI to help finance make better, faster decisions. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] – Trailer [03:17] – AI Fatigue & Model Overload [09:38] – Beyond Prompt Engineering [16:03] – Building Better AI Context [24:29] – Organizing Finance Knowledge [27:29] – Token Maxing & AI Costs [32:06] – Forecasting Token Spend [38:23] – Focusing on Business Value [41:43] – Closing Thoughts
#106
August 19 · 19 min
Better Data vs Better AI: What Really Matters for Finance with Alex Curran
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper welcome Alex Curran, CEO of Aptitude Software, to discuss AI-native ERP, the changing role of CFOs, and how finance teams can prepare for AI adoption. Alex explains why strong data foundations, flexible architecture, and real-time finance systems are becoming essential. Alex Curran is the CEO of Aptitude Software, a company with decades of experience building finance solutions for complex organizations. After more than 12 years at Aptitude, Alex became CEO in late 2023 and now leads the company’s focus on AI-native finance technology, including the Fynapse platform. In this episode, you will discover: Why CFOs are becoming strategic partners in business decisions. Why clean, detailed data is essential for effective AI adoption. What makes an ERP system truly AI-native. How CFOs can evaluate legacy and newer AI-native ERP platforms. Why flexible AI models and real-time finance are becoming more important. Alex explains that successful AI adoption requires more than adding AI features to existing finance systems. Organizations need the right data and architecture to support changing AI technologies while meeting complex finance requirements. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow Alex: Website: http://fynapse.app/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-curran-9aa593b/ Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:56] – Meet Alex Curran [02:32] – Aptitude Software and Fynapse [05:16] – The Changing CFO Role [07:03] – Finance’s Data Problem [10:53] – AI-Native Finance Systems [14:33] – Evaluating ERP Options [17:32] – The Future of AI-Native ERP [18:59] – Closing Thoughts
#105
August 12 · 41 min
The AI Data Pioneer: Building the Future of Finance with Alex Curran
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper welcome Alex Curran, CEO of Aptitude Software, to discuss the future of finance systems, AI-native ERP, and how organizations can prepare their finance functions for a rapidly changing technology landscape. Alex shares how finance teams can move beyond outdated systems, improve data foundations, and use AI to enable faster, more informed decision-making. Alex Curran is the CEO of Aptitude Software, a company that has spent over 40 years building finance solutions for complex organizations. After joining Aptitude over 12 years ago, Alex progressed through multiple leadership roles before becoming CEO in 2023. She now leads the company’s focus on AI-native finance technology and modern ERP solutions. In this episode, you will discover: Why CFOs are expected to become strategic partners in business decisions. Why clean data and strong architecture are essential for successful AI adoption. How AI-native ERP systems differ from traditional finance platforms. Why real-time finance and continuous close are becoming possible. How AI will change finance roles and create new opportunities. Alex explains why the future of finance is not just about adding AI tools, but about building the right systems, data foundations, and processes to make AI valuable and trustworthy. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow Alex: Website: http://fynapse.app/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alex-curran-9aa593b/ Disclosure: Portions of this episode (such as the introduction or promotional segments) use AI-generated voice narration produced under human editorial review. Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] – Trailer [05:22] – The Modern CFO Role [11:36] – Building Flexible AI Systems [15:16] – Evaluating ERP Solutions [19:08] – Legacy ERP vs AI-Native ERP [23:39] – Real-Time Finance & Continuous Close [27:02] – AI’s Impact on Finance Teams [30:24] – The Future of Accountants [35:44] – AI Questions & Leadership Lessons [36:53] – Finance System Implementation Challenges [38:40] – Alex’s CEO Journey [40:04] – Closing Thoughts on Finance’s Future
#104
August 5 · 21 min
AI, Power BI, and the Future of Finance Work with Rob Collie
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper welcome Robert Collie to discuss artificial intelligence, data analytics, and the future of work. Robert shares his journey from helping build Power Pivot and Power BI at Microsoft to founding P3 Adaptive. He explains how AI is changing the role of finance and data professionals, why strong data foundations still matter, and why continuous learning is essential in an AI-driven world. Robert Collie is the founder and CEO of P3 Adaptive, a Microsoft analytics and AI consulting firm. During his 13 years at Microsoft, he helped lead the development of Power Pivot and Power BI. He is also the author of Power Pivot and Power BI and the upcoming book Fair Game: Customizing AI to Your Business Is Easier Than You Think. In this episode, you will discover: How Power Pivot and Power BI transformed data analytics. Why AI is creating new opportunities for finance professionals. Why adapting skills is critical in the AI era. How businesses can make AI practical and accessible. Robert shares practical insights on combining data expertise, AI, and human judgment to create value in the future of work. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow Robert: Website: https://p3adaptive.com/ Book: https://fairgamebook.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robcollie/ In Today’s Episode: [03:58] - Building Power Pivot and Power BI at Microsoft [08:56] - Leaving Microsoft and Founding P3 Adaptive [13:36] - AI and the Future of Work [17:13] - Introducing Fair Game [19:41] - Making AI Practical and Accessible [21:31] - Helping Everyone Understand AI
#103
July 29 · 41 min
AI Is Already Changing Data Jobs: Why You Must Create More Value Now with Rob Collie
In this episode of Future Finance, hosts Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper welcome Robert Collie, founder and CEO of P3 Adaptive, for a conversation about artificial intelligence, data analytics, and how finance professionals can prepare for the future of work. Robert shares his journey from helping build Power BI at Microsoft to founding P3 Adaptive and explains why AI is creating both disruption and new opportunities for finance and data professionals. Robert Collie is the founder and CEO of P3 Adaptive, a Microsoft analytics and AI consulting firm. During his 13 years at Microsoft, Robert helped lead the development of Power Pivot and Power BI. He is also the author of the bestselling Power Pivot and Power BI book and hosts the Raw Data with Rob Collie podcast. His upcoming book, Fair Game: Customizing AI to Your Business is Easier Than You Think, explores how organizations can make AI practical and accessible. In this episode, you will discover: How Power BI and Power Pivot changed the way organizations use data. Why AI is creating new opportunities for finance and data professionals. Why sitting still with current skills can create career risks. How companies can build AI systems using strong data foundations. Why semantic models are becoming essential for AI adoption. Robert brings decades of experience in business intelligence, analytics, and AI, sharing practical lessons on how finance leaders and data professionals can adapt, learn, and create value in a rapidly changing environment. Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow Robert: Website: https://p3adaptive.com/ Book: https://fairgamebook.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/robcollie/ Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] – Trailer [00:00] – How AI is changing jobs [02:43] – Robert’s Microsoft journey [06:06] – Power BI and Power Pivot impact [11:25] – Leaving Microsoft for P3 Adaptive [15:43] – AI and the future of data work [19:33] – Making AI accessible [25:13] – AI tools and better workflows [31:11] – AI in career planning [33:38] – AI changing finance and consulting [35:16] – Why semantic models matter [38:35] – Building a strong company culture [40:34] – Robert’s AI book and future plans
#102
July 22 · 21 min
Why Forecasting Is Not Broken, but Your Data Systems & AI Misuse Are the Problem with Alex Brower
In this episode of Future Finance, host Paul Barnhurst and co-host Glenn Hopper are joined by guest Alex Brower, co-founder and CEO of QFlow.ai, to explore why forecasting problems often begin with the data layer. They discuss data plumbing, semantic alignment, Model Context Protocols (MCPs), vibe coding, and how finance and go-to-market teams can work from shared definitions to improve forecast quality and analysis. Alex Brower is the co-founder and CEO of QFlow.ai, helping finance and go-to-market teams connect data, improve forecast accuracy, and boost analyst productivity by up to five times. He previously led finance and marketing at high-growth tech firms like AppTelligent (acquired by VMware) and Cloud Academy (acquired by QA). In this episode, you will discover: How data hygiene and shared definitions improve forecasting Why unified data alone does not solve business alignment issues MCP vs semantic layers for reliable analysis The risks of untested AI-generated analysis Why AI cost and governance matter Alex explains how QFlow helps companies prepare data, run planning workflows, and turn analysis into board-ready stories. Follow Alex: Website: https://qflow.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexbrower/ Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow QFlow.ai: Website - https://bit.ly/4i1Ekjg Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] – Introduction [02:15] – Data & Forecasting Challenges [06:43] – MCP vs Semantic Layers [09:55] – AI Coding Risks [15:52] – QFlow Data Preparation [18:10] – Planning & Business Insights [20:51] – Closing Thoughts
#101
July 15 · 44 min
How to Align Marketing and Finance and Fix the Plumbing Problem with Alex Brower
Future Finance host Paul Barnhurst and co-host Glenn Hopper are joined by Alex Brower, co-founder and CEO of QFlow.ai, to unpack why forecasting often breaks down even when teams have plenty of data. The discussion focuses on how finance and go-to-market teams can work from shared inputs, improve planning accuracy, and use AI without losing the structure needed for reliable decisions. Alex Brower is the co-founder and CEO of QFlow.ai, helping finance and go-to-market teams connect data, improve forecast accuracy, and boost analyst productivity up to five times. He previously led finance and marketing at high-growth tech firms like AppTelligent (acquired by VMware) and Cloud Academy (acquired by QA). In this episode, you will discover: Fix data plumbing before system consolidation. Use data dictionaries for consistent definitions. AI helps, but semantic logic is still needed. Vibe coding can create hidden costs if untested. Start with key unanswered questions, then plan solutions. Alex shares lessons from leading finance, operations, and marketing teams at high-growth companies, including what he learned from living the forecast tension on both sides of the table. Follow Alex: Website: https://qflow.ai/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexbrower/ Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow QFlow.ai: Website - https://bit.ly/4i1Ekjg Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] – Trailer [03:44] – Finance-to-marketing journey & QFlow’s solution [07:10] – Data plumbing vs. alignment [11:37] – MCPs, AI, and logic layers [14:50] – Risks of vibe coding & maintainability [21:56] – How QFlow handles data, planning, and storytelling [30:57] – Alignment before strategy & reducing fact-hunting [35:39] – Where CFOs/FP&A should start modernizing [44:03] – Closing & sponsor sign-off
#100
July 8 · 19 min
AI Is Making Mistakes in Finance for CFOs to Fix Data Problems and Improve Analysis with Nick & Jain
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper are joined by Nick Jain and Daniel Settel, co-founders of Eagle Rock CFO. They discuss how AI is changing FP&A, why finance teams still need human expertise, and how their platform helps CFOs automate financial analysis while improving decision-making. Nick Jain is a Harvard MBA and former CEO, CFO, and investor with experience at McKinsey, Bain Capital, and multiple high-growth companies. Daniel Settel is a Stanford engineer, Harvard MBA, former investment professional at Primecap Management, and co-founder of a venture secondary marketplace. Together, they founded Eagle Rock CFO to combine technology with fractional CFO services for growing businesses. In this episode, you will discover: How AI can automate FP&A without replacing finance professionals Why clean financial data is essential for better analysis The role of humans in AI-powered finance workflows How fractional CFOs can use technology to serve more clients Where businesses can uncover hidden value in their financial data AI-powered finance tools are changing how businesses analyze data, but success still depends on combining automation with sound financial judgment. Nick and Daniel share practical insights into how finance leaders can use technology to save time, uncover opportunities, and make better decisions. Follow Nick: Website: https://www.eaglerockcfo.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmjain/ Follow Dan: Website: https://www.eaglerockcfo.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dsettel/ Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow QFlow.AI: Website - https://bit.ly/4i1Ekjg Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [02:24] – Why Eagle Rock CFO Was Founded [04:35] – Building AI for FP&A [09:12] – The Human Role in AI-Powered Finance [10:38] – Why Fractional CFOs Need Better Tools [14:18] – Cleaning Financial Data & Chart of Accounts [16:21] – White-Labeling the Platform [17:17] – Time Savings and Business Impact [19:18] – Final Thoughts
#99
July 1 · 35 min
How to Save Time in FP&A Using Structured AI Analysis with Nick and Dan
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper sit down with Nick Jain and Daniel Settel, co-founders of Eagle Rock CFO, to discuss how AI is reshaping FP&A and fractional CFO services. Nick and Dan explain how their AI-powered system combines structured data processing, automation, and financial expertise to help companies analyze complex financial data faster, reduce manual workload, and uncover hidden value in their operations. Dan and Nick are co-founders of Eagle Rock CFO, a financial advisory firm helping mid-size businesses grow faster and improve profitability. They combine AI and technology to deliver operational finance insights at a fraction of traditional consulting costs. Both are Harvard Business School graduates, with undergraduate degrees from Stanford and Dartmouth. Dan previously co-founded FinTech company Zanbato and worked as a professional investor at PrimeCap, while Nick has experience in private equity investing and scaling companies across SaaS, footwear, and trucking. In this episode, you will discover: AI works best when paired with structured financial data, not raw inputs Why deterministic systems still matter alongside AI in finance workflows How Eagle Rock’s 5-step system improves financial analysis accuracy Why human oversight is still needed in AI-powered FP&A systems How fractional CFOs can save 20–50 hours per month using AI tools Nick and Daniel demonstrate how AI is transforming finance by automating analysis while still relying on structured systems and human judgment. Their approach shows that the future of FP&A is not fully autonomous AI, but a hybrid model where AI enhances decision-making, improves efficiency, and strengthens financial visibility. Follow Nick: Website: https://www.eaglerockcfo.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nickmjain/ Follow Dan: Website: https://www.eaglerockcfo.com/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dsettel/ Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow QFlow.AI: Website - https://bit.ly/4i1Ekjg Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] – Trailer [04:10] – Founding Eagle Rock CFO [06:21] – Deterministic vs probabilistic systems [07:22] – Why agents are not enough [09:13] – Data compression and structuring [10:13] – Human oversight in AI workflows [14:51] – Data mess in SMB finance [18:38] – White-label and consulting model [22:18] – How to start using AI safely [29:36] – CFO vs CEO vs CIO experience [33:45] – Closing thoughts
#98
June 24 · 18 min
AI in Finance for CFOs to Stop Reporting Work and Drive Profit Decisions with Ron Nachum
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper sit down with Ron Nachum, Founder of Sapien, an AI-native company building systems that understand and act on enterprise financial data. Ron shares how his team is redefining finance operations using AI agents that go beyond dashboards and chatbots to actively analyze, optimise, and recommend actions across business functions. Ron Nachum is the Founder of Sapien, an AI-native platform that helps companies run finance and operations through intelligent systems built on top of ERPs, spreadsheets, and enterprise data. With a background in applied AI research at Harvard, Ron focuses on building systems that turn fragmented financial data into real-time business decisions. In this episode, you will discover: How AI agents are reshaping finance and FP&A workflows Why companies need systems that understand their business context How Sapien automates reporting, analysis, and decision support The importance of guardrails, auditability, and financial structure in AI Ron shows how AI agents are moving finance beyond reporting into real-time decision-making. Sapien blends structure, data, and intelligence to turn complex systems into actionable insights. Follow Ron: Website: https://sapien.ai/news LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-nachum/ Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow QFlow.AI: Website - https://bit.ly/4i1Ekjg Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [02:35] – Why Ron left Harvard to build Sapien [05:15] – Founding story and early vision [07:46] – Building AI systems for finance [09:13] – From manual workflows to AI automation [10:03] – Evolution of AI agents in finance [11:29] – How AI is changing FP&A roles [12:45] – Guardrails and system design [13:56] – Financial intelligence in AI systems [16:19] – Opinionated vs. flexible AI systems [18:26] – Closing thoughts
#97
June 17 · 50 min
How Companies Are Losing Millions While Being Data Rich with Ron Nachum
In this episode of Future Finance, Paul Barnhurst and Glenn Hopper sit down with Ron Nachum, Founder and CEO of Sapien, to discuss how AI agents are transforming financial operations and decision-making for companies. Ron shares how Sapien leverages AI to unify siloed financial data, automate workflows, and provide actionable insights, helping companies unlock millions of dollars in hidden value while enabling employees to focus on strategic work. Ron Nachum is the founder and CEO of Sapien, an AI-native platform that deploys agents to understand and act on messy, siloed data across ERPs, data warehouses, CRMs, and spreadsheets. Ron studied at Harvard, where he focused on computer science, statistics, and applied AI research. He has spent years building AI solutions for finance and operational processes, creating systems that help companies make better, faster decisions and optimize their operations. In this episode, you will discover: AI can unlock value from messy, siloed financial data Sapien’s platform automates reporting, forecasting, and operational decisions Human oversight and governance remain crucial for AI configurability Talent density and culture are key to scaling a young, fast-growing company Early entrepreneurial mindset shapes long-term innovation Ron Nachum demonstrates how AI can revolutionize financial operations by turning siloed, messy data into actionable insights. Sapien’s platform empowers companies to automate reporting, optimize decisions, and free employees to focus on high-value work. Ron emphasizes that combining AI with governance, configurability, and a talented team creates systems that not only deliver immediate value but also scale strategically. Follow Ron: Website: https://sapien.ai/news LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ron-nachum/ Follow Glenn: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gbhopperiii Follow Paul: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/thefpandaguy Follow QFlow.AI: Website - https://bit.ly/4i1Ekjg Future Finance is sponsored by QFlow.ai, the strategic finance platform solving the toughest part of planning and analysis: B2B revenue. Align sales, marketing, and finance, speed up decision-making, and lock in accountability with QFlow.ai. Stay tuned for a deeper understanding of how AI is shaping the future of finance and what it means for businesses and individuals alike. In Today’s Episode: [00:00] – Trailer [03:15] – Data-Rich, Analysis-Poor Challenge [06:21] – Harvard & the Leap to Sapien [11:32] – AI Agents in Finance [17:01] – Balancing AI Flexibility & Guardrails [23:19] – Efficient & Secure Data Handling [26:34] – Making Insights Accessible to All Teams [30:45] – Configurability, Forecasting & Learning [38:22] – Real-World Impact & Optimizations [40:25] – Leading Young Teams with Experienced Advisor [46:11] – Early Entrepreneurial Ventures [49:13] – Closing Thoughts & Thanks

Showing 1–20 of 29 episodes