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Finding Nancy: The Nancy Guthrie Investigation

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An 84-year-old woman vanishes from her Tucson home. No witnesses. No ransom call that makes sense. And a family waiting in the kind of silence that breaks people.

Nancy Guthrie—mother of Today Show anchor Savannah Guthrie—disappeared on January 24, 2025, setting off a national investigation that has exposed deep dysfunction between federal and local law enforcement, raised more questions than answers, and captivated a country watching in real time.

This is Finding Nancy—the only podcast dedicated entirely to this case.

Hosted by Tony Brueski, veteran true crime podcaster and Court TV legal analyst, this channel delivers what mainstream coverage can't: daily monologues breaking down every development as it happens, multi-part expert interview series with former FBI agents, behavioral analysts, and criminal defense attorneys, and unflinching analysis of the investigative failures, jurisdictional conflicts, and unanswered questions surrounding this case.

We don't do speculation dressed up as insight. We don't recycle what you've already heard. Every episode is built on verified reporting, primary sources, and expert perspective—delivered with the kind of clarity and directness this case demands.

You'll hear from voices like Robin Dreeke, former chief of the FBI's Counterintelligence Behavioral Analysis Program, and Jennifer Coffindaffer, retired FBI Special Agent, breaking down what the evidence actually tells us—and what it doesn't. You'll get real-time analysis of Sheriff Chris Nanos's public statements, the FBI's involvement, and the contradictions piling up between them.

This isn't entertainment. This is accountability journalism in podcast form.

Whether you're following because of who Nancy's daughter is, or because an elderly woman deserves answers regardless of her family's fame, this is where you come to understand what's really happening—not what someone wants you to believe is happening.

New episodes drop daily as the case develops. Subscribe now.

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August 15 · 47 min
Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapper Knew WHAT Inside Her Home?!
The first Nancy Guthrie ransom note contains details that only someone standing inside her house could have known, and Tony Brueski, retired FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke, and retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer lay out exactly what those details are and what they mean six months into this investigation. Released by the Pima County Sheriff's Department on July 31, the first letter opens with 'Hello Savannah,' demands four million dollars in Bitcoin, and references a white smart watch on the floor by the bed and a destroyed flood light out back. It reads like a script. A second note, arriving with no demand at all, claims Nancy died shortly after she was taken, says she's buried in nature, and hopes her children find peace, reading more like a confession than a threat. The team weighs whether the same person wrote both. Coffindaffer's trace of the alleged kidnapper's Bitcoin wallet shows the only money that ever moved into it was roughly three hundred dollars, sent by the FBI itself on February 10 and never touched again. No ransom was ever paid, despite Savannah Guthrie's public statement that the family did their part. Messages written directly to the wallet include the exact words Savannah said on camera, meaning a direct line to whoever controls it has existed the entire time and was never answered. Sheriff Nanos calls his relationship with the FBI great while thousands of hours of video remain unreviewed, and search teams have returned to the brush behind Nancy's own home since the monsoons. Every thread, traced in one place. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #RansomNote #TrueCrime #Tucson #FBI #Bitcoin #MissingPerson #PimaCounty
August 11 · 20 min
Why Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapper Stopped Asking For Money
You've followed the Nancy Guthrie case from the first night, so you know what the July 31 release of the ransom notes actually changed: for the first time, the public can read the writer's own words. Tony Brueski and retired FBI behavioral analyst Robin Dreeke spend this episode inside them, guided by your questions. The details you've been waiting to discuss are all here. The 'Hello Savannah' opening. The $4 million Bitcoin demand and the promised safe drop-off. The white smart watch and the destroyed flood light, the two proof points that made the FBI take the letters seriously. The second note's total retreat from money, its heart-related explanation, the 'buried in nature' line, and the apology. Plus the timeline you memorized months ago: camera down at 1:47, a person detected at 2:12, the pacemaker offline at 2:28. Robin's behavioral read covers what the tone shift between letters suggests, what kind of writer wishes a family peace, and whether one person produced both notes. And the closing question — why federal agents went back into the brush behind her home — gets the serious treatment this audience deserves. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #TrueCrimePodcast #RansomNote #Tucson #FBI #MissingPerson #PimaCounty
August 10 · 26 min
Why Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapper Never Touched the Money
Sheriff Nanos sat down for his six-month message on the Nancy Guthrie case and called his office's relationship with the FBI great. In the same stretch, the ransom letters were finally released, and Nanos acknowledged thousands of hours of video still haven't been reviewed. Six months into the disappearance of a 74-year-old woman taken from her own Tucson home. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer joins Tony Brueski to say what most people watching that message were thinking, and to bring receipts nobody else has. Her receipts come off the blockchain. After the Pima County Sheriff's Office accidentally printed the alleged kidnapper's Bitcoin wallet address on a media release, Coffindaffer traced every transaction on it. The demand was allegedly four million dollars. The wallet's entire history is one deposit: roughly three hundred dollars in Bitcoin, moved by the FBI on February 10, never touched again. No ransom was ever paid — which sits uneasily beside the family's public statement that they did their part. The wallet also carried messages, written directly onto the blockchain, including the exact words Savannah Guthrie said on camera about being willing to pay. An open channel to the alleged kidnapper existed for six months. It was never answered. Coffindaffer explains what that silence tends to mean, and why the answer changes depending on whether Nancy's captors were organized professionals or a hired man in over his head. That split is her other headline: she believes the two ransom notes came from two different authors. One wrote threats on a schedule. One wrote an apology that reads like it was drafted with a death penalty statute in mind. This channel exists to keep Nancy Guthrie's case from going quiet. This episode is the loudest it's been in months. LINKS Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod DISCLAIMER This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #Tucson #FBI #Bitcoin #RansomNote #MissingPerson #JenniferCoffindaffer
August 8 · 44 min
What Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapper REALLY Proved With That Note
Nancy Guthrie's kidnapper had every opportunity to send real proof she was alive — her voice, a photo, anything with her in it — and instead described a smartwatch on the floor and a broken floodlight. Pima County released both ransom notes in full, and this episode is a complete breakdown of what's actually in them and what the investigation has gotten wrong since. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott, author of The Minds of Mass Killers, goes through the first note line by line: the four-million-dollar bitcoin demand, the deadline set for Savannah Guthrie, the proof-of-presence details, a revealing slip from "we" to "me," and a line about Nancy's mother written to put the outcome squarely on the family. Then the second note: it states Nancy died shortly after she was taken. If the notes are accurate and in order, the ransom demand went out for someone who was already gone. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer breaks down the investigation from the outside. Sheriff Chris Nanos told cameras Derrick Callella — the only person charged in connection with this case — received ten years. He hasn't been sentenced. The real plea agreement is five years of probation on two counts of harassment by telecommunications device. Coffindaffer explains what it means that the man running this investigation can't accurately describe his own case's only conviction, and why the FBI director and Pima County's sheriff still haven't spoken directly, reward money on the table and no named suspect. Savannah Guthrie's latest statement. A nearby attack with an eerily similar suspect description. And a ransom note that never once proves what it claims. Every detail, laid out in order. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #ShavaunScott #JenniferCoffindaffer #RansomNote #PimaCounty #SheriffNanos #TrueCrime #Kidnapping
August 6 · 15 min
What Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapper Did AFTER Savannah Said She'd Pay
Eight sentences. No location. No demands. The second note told the family Nancy died shortly after she was taken, said it was heart related, and ended with an apology. The writer walked away from six million dollars and a family that had already publicly said they would pay. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott examines the second note line by line — the phrase buried in nature, the claim about her condition from someone who was inside her house, and the question that sits underneath all of it: is this a man feeling guilt, or a man who never had anything to sell? Tony Brueski and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott, author of The Minds of Mass Killers. END LINKS Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod DISCLAIMER This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #ShavaunScott #RansomNote #Kidnapping #PimaCounty #ForensicPsychology #TrueCrime #DeathNote
August 5 · 20 min
What Nancy Guthrie's Kidnapper Knew That Nobody Else Did
The entire first ransom note uses we. We have your mother. We will be holding her. Then one sentence: You will not be able to contact me from here on out. One me sitting in the middle of a wall of we. The sheriff's department has said it has not ruled out that one person did this alone. Psychotherapist Shavaun Scott breaks the first note down line by line with Tony Brueski — the demand structure, the proof-of-presence, the moment the writer puts the outcome on Savannah and makes sure Nancy knows it, and the question of whether we was ever real. Tony Brueski and psychotherapist Shavaun Scott, author of The Minds of Mass Killers. END LINKS Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod DISCLAIMER This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #ShavaunScott #RansomNote #Kidnapping #PimaCounty #ForensicPsychology #TrueCrime #CriminalProfile
August 4 · 23 min
The Sheriff Told the Public WHAT About Nancy’s Only Arrest?!
Sheriff Nanos went on camera and stated what happened to the only man convicted in Nancy Guthrie's disappearance — and he got it wrong. The actual plea deal for Derrick Callella is probation on harassment charges. He hasn't been sentenced yet. Jennifer Coffindaffer, retired FBI, breaks down what it means when the lead investigator can't describe the outcome of his own case. This conversation covers the FBI-sheriff communication breakdown, Savannah Guthrie's latest plea and the shift in her language from hope to something closer to demand, and a disturbing home invasion thirty miles from Nancy's house where the suspect matches the porch figure's height. Six months into this case, the reward sits at over a million dollars. No one has been named. No one has been arrested. And the man in charge just got his own scoreboard wrong. Links Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod Disclaimer This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PimaCounty #SheriffNanos #Tucson #FBI #JenniferCoffindaffer #MissingPerson
August 2 · 34 min
Savannah Guthrie Believes THIS About Her Mother's Fate
For six months, Savannah Guthrie has spoken to the camera the same way every time: proof of life, an open line, a family ready to negotiate. On July 27th, for the first time, she didn't. The new message dropped every demand she'd made since January and replaced it with something that sounded less like a negotiation and more like a woman who has made peace with an answer nobody has confirmed publicly. It came the same week three separate FBI sources gave three different answers about whether the case's ransom notes are even real — one report calling all of them fake, another saying some may be legitimate, a third ranking the original two as credible. This episode is for everyone who has followed every tip, every press conference, every twist in this case since January. It covers exactly what changed in Savannah's language, lays the FBI's contradicting statements next to it, and walks through Jennifer Coffindaffer's ten-point challenge to investigators — including why the enhanced photo of porch guy has never been released and why Nancy's face is on the billboards instead of a suspect's. Six months. 150 agents. Over 13,000 tips. A $1.2 million reward. And a daughter whose words just told us something the case file hasn't. Links Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #Tucson #FBI #PimaCounty #RansomNotes #JenniferCoffindaffer #Missing
July 30 · 15 min
Why Savannah Guthrie Offered Forgiveness To Nancy's Kidnapper
Anger didn't work. Reward money didn't work. The biggest law enforcement mobilization in the country didn't work. So on July 27th, Savannah Guthrie tried the one thing she had left. She recorded a video, addressed it directly to whoever took her mother, and offered something that nobody in this family has offered before. Not a deal. Not a demand. Something harder than both. The video arrived the same week the first ransom note was read publicly for the first time — on Crime Junkie, with details about the inside of Nancy's house that reportedly hadn't been released. It arrived days after the FBI director accused the Pima County Sheriff of costing the investigation critical evidence, and the sheriff's office responded by redirecting all ransom questions to the FBI. This episode walks through every word of Savannah's plea, what it tells you about what this family believes happened to Nancy, and the institutional failure that left a daughter with no option except a camera and a prayer that someone's conscience still works. END LINKS: Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod DISCLAIMER: This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS: #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #Tucson #FBI #PimaCounty #Missing #CrimeJunkie #Kidnapping
July 27 · 19 min
Three Agents Gave Three Answers On The Same Day
Three FBI sources. Same day. Three different answers about whether the ransom notes in this case are real. Reuters was told every note is fabricated. The Phoenix field office said some may be legitimate. TMZ's sources said the original two carry more credibility than not. The agency investigating Nancy Guthrie's disappearance cannot agree internally on the nature of its own central evidence. Nancy has been missing from her Tucson home for nearly six months. No suspect publicly named. No arrest. A former FBI agent told Brian Entin's audience the case is completely cold and predicted that fresh agents would eventually rotate in. Derrick Callella has already pleaded guilty to impersonating a kidnapper and contacting the family with fake ransom demands while the real case remained open. A separate individual sent TMZ twelve emails demanding Bitcoin. The investigation has been forced to pour resources into distinguishing genuine evidence from manufactured interference. Genetic genealogy testing began five months ago using DNA collected from inside the house. The enhanced photo of the masked figure captured on the porch camera has never been released to the public. If the FBI has DNA results from the genetic genealogy testing that started five months ago, they have not shared them. If they do not have results after five months on a DNA sample in an active kidnapping, that raises its own questions. The enhanced photo of the masked figure on the porch has never been publicly released. Nancy's face is on the billboards. The suspect's is not. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer has publicly challenged investigators on a ten-point list. One question on that list remains unanswered: do they already know who porch guy is? Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #FBI #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #JenniferCoffindaffer #Tucson #PorchGuy #RansomNotes #PimaCounty #ColdCase
July 19 · 43 min
Nancy Guthrie's Fake Ransom Man Got Just WHAT?!
Every new development in the Nancy Guthrie case seems to raise more questions than it answers, and this one might be the most infuriating yet. The man who sent the Guthrie family fake bitcoin ransom demands has been sentenced, and Tony Brueski breaks down why the punishment doesn't come close to matching what he put this family through. The charge: harassment, reduced down from something far more serious. The sentence: five years of probation, with every count running concurrently instead of stacking up. Retired FBI special agent Jennifer Coffindaffer called the result a travesty, warning it could embolden the growing list of copycats agents are now tracking under one name, the TMZ Twelve. Underneath that plea deal sits a four-million-dollar ransom note with an escalating threat, and a second, colder letter sent only to local television stations, apologizing and calling Nancy's death an accident. Both were reportedly traced to the same IP address, one of the few concrete threads investigators have. Porch Guy, a figure tied to the case, is still out there, unidentified. And the case keeps producing friction beyond the hoaxer. Sheriff Chris Nanos has faced pointed questions about discrepancies in his own record, at one point telling a reporter to enjoy his hit piece rather than answer. The FBI and the Sheriff's Department can't agree on jurisdiction, can't agree on which ransom notes are genuine, and a retired agent says there's real internal disagreement over whether some of the evidence is even legitimate. Kash Patel told a podcast his agents were locked out for days, yet one of his own special agents had already appeared beside Sheriff Nanos at a press conference, with a plane reportedly fueled and waiting. Nancy Guthrie is still missing. Here's everything on the record. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #NancyGuthrie #ChrisNanos #JusticeForNancy #MissingPerson #FBI #RansomNote #TrueCrimePodcast #CrimeNews #TrueCrime #TrueCrimeCommunity
July 17 · 18 min
How Nancy Guthrie's Sheriff And The FBI Lost Four Days
The first forty-eight hours are the only hours that really belong to you. Everything after that is archaeology. In the Nancy Guthrie case, the two agencies responsible for those hours cannot agree on what happened during them. FBI Director Kash Patel says the Bureau was kept out for four days. Sheriff Chris Nanos says he was on scene the night it happened, an FBI task force member was present, and coordination began without delay. The acting attorney general went on television and denied any friction at all. Three officials. Same side. Same four days. Three different versions. And on the third of February, Patel himself told a national audience the FBI was already on the ground in Tucson. Tony Brueski lays out every contradiction on the record in the disappearance of Savannah Guthrie's eighty-four-year-old mother. Statements released forty-five minutes apart where each agency pointed at the other. The ransom note reporting the Bureau publicly reversed inside a day. The glove that went to Florida and came back before it was ever run. The partial DNA profile that cannot be entered into the national database at all. And a sheriff who spent the search answering for discrepancies in his own record, took a no-confidence vote from his own deputies, and told the reporter asking about it to enjoy his hit piece. Nancy Guthrie is still missing. Nobody has been charged, and no suspect has been publicly named. END LINKS Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod DISCLAIMER This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #NancyGuthrie #ChrisNanos #NancyGuthrieCase #KashPatel #FBI #PimaCounty #SavannahGuthrie #Tucson #TrueCrime #MissingPerson
July 14 · 23 min
Nancy Guthrie: The Note That Confirmed The Worst
Six months into the search for Nancy Guthrie, this episode goes deeper into the one piece of evidence that may matter more than everything else combined: a note her family received that investigators still won't rule out. She was eighty-four, last seen the night blood was found on her porch and a masked figure appeared on her own doorbell camera. Since then, more than one note claiming responsibility has surfaced. Most have been confirmed as hoaxes. The one that hasn't is reportedly the one that changes how this entire case should be read, including what it may confirm about her fate. Tony Brueski and the Hidden Killers team break down what that note reportedly says, how it lines up against the blood evidence and the doorbell footage, and why the FBI continues to publicly frame this as a kidnapping-for-ransom case even as the physical evidence complicates that theory. The show lays out a detailed theory of what happened that night, built entirely on what's been confirmed so far, including the possibility that whoever was involved never intended for the night to end the way it reportedly did. This episode also looks closely at the toll six months of uncertainty has taken on Savannah Guthrie, who has continued to appear on national television throughout the search for her mother, and asks what the public owes families like hers when a case is this drawn out. For everyone who has followed Nancy Guthrie's case from the beginning, this is the update that finally moves the timeline forward. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #NancyGuthrieCase #TrueCrimePodcast #MissingPersons #FBI #Arizona #UnsolvedCase #ColdCase #HiddenKillers
July 13 · 24 min
Nancy Guthrie's Hoaxer Walks With THIS Sentence
Six months into the search for Nancy Guthrie, one case tied to her disappearance is finally over — and it's not about finding her. A California man pleaded guilty to sending the Guthrie family fake bitcoin ransom demands while agents were still actively searching. The sentence is what has people talking. His charge was pled down to harassment, which caps at two years federally, and the final sentence was five years of probation, both counts running concurrently. Retired FBI special agent Jennifer Coffindaffer called the outcome a travesty and warned it could set a precedent for the copycats still sending in fake notes — a group nicknamed the TMZ Twelve, which the FBI has reportedly signaled are likely not legitimate. Two other communications are being treated as potentially real. The first is considered the actual ransom note — four million dollars, an escalation threat to six million, and a threat on Nancy's life. The second is an apology letter sent only to local television stations, expressing remorse and describing her death as accidental. Both notes reportedly trace back to the same IP address, one of the few consistent threads investigators have to work with. We also dig into Porch Guy, someone tied to the case who remains unidentified publicly and hasn't been taken into custody, despite tools like highway checkpoints that have worked in similar cases before. We lay out the sentence, the notes, and exactly where this investigation stands six months in. New episode is up now — link below. Social Links & Legal Footer Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags #NancyGuthrie #RansomHoax #NancyGuthrieCase #TMZTwelve #Bitcoin #FBIInvestigation #TulsaOklahoma #PorchGuy #TrueCrimePodcast #UnsolvedMystery
July 12 · 1 hr 1 min
Nancy Guthrie's Two Notes Don't Add Up to One Kidnapper
Nancy Guthrie has now been missing for five months, taken from her Tucson home at 84 years old, and the case has produced more written communications than actual leads. Start with the notes. One reportedly came from the man who took her, describing her as at rest somewhere in nature. A second, sent to a Tucson television station days later, was described by law enforcement as a legitimate communication from the actual kidnappers, and reportedly claimed she had died shortly after being taken. If real, it may be the closest thing to a written confession this case has produced. Then there's TMZ. One tipster emailed the outlet claiming urgency had passed. A separate, repeat emailer has claimed to have a phone containing video of Nancy and her alleged kidnapper from what was probably her last day. The FBI has already arrested multiple people for sending fake ransom notes tied to this case, and Sheriff Nanos has dismissed the newest claim as likely another one. But the FBI is reportedly investigating that same emailer at the same time, a contradiction no one in law enforcement has explained. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer and criminal defense attorney Bob Motta break down what each communication actually proves, how investigators try to authenticate a note when there's no body, and why efforts to independently confirm Nancy's death have reportedly failed. A first note demanded millions. A second offered her body back for close to the same amount. Whether that points to one plan falling apart or two people working the same case is still an open question. All claims here are reported and unconfirmed, and no one has been charged. This is everything filed and reported so far, laid out in order. SOCIAL LINKS & LEGAL FOOTER Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #RansomNote #FBI #JenniferCoffindaffer #BobMotta #Tucson #PimaCounty #TrueCrime
July 1 · 36 min
Nancy Guthrie: The Note That Might Be a Confession
Five months after Nancy Guthrie was kidnapped from her home, a detail that had been kept private was finally made public. A second note sent to a Tucson station days after the abduction claimed Nancy died shortly after she was taken. The senders expressed regret. They made no more demands. Investigators have reportedly described the note as a legitimate communication from the actual kidnappers. For the case-specific audience following every development: criminal defense attorney Bob Motta evaluates what that note means in a courtroom. If investigators can link the note to a suspect through forensic or digital evidence, the content alone may function as an admission. The claim that Nancy died in their custody, combined with regret and cessation of demands, carries legal weight that goes beyond a ransom communication. The discussion also addresses the anonymous emailer’s latest demand to TMZ — claiming to possess a phone with video of Nancy and an alleged kidnapper — and Harvey Levin’s challenge for the emailer to produce a single screenshot, which was refused. The FBI continues investigating while Sheriff Nanos has publicly dismissed the emailer as likely fraudulent. Tony Brueski and Bob Motta. End Links: Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod Disclaimer: This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. Hashtags: #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #NancyGuthrieCase #BobMotta #DefenseDiaries #RansomNote #Confession #FBI #Tucson #TrueCrime
June 30 · 27 min
What the FBI Did About Nancy Guthrie’s Fake Ransom Notes Changes This Entire Case
Five months after Nancy Guthrie was allegedly taken from her Tucson home, the sheriff leading the case went on local radio and said he thinks the FBI has made “a number of arrests” for fake ransom notes. He thinks. The lead investigator doesn’t know the details of what the FBI has done inside his own investigation. Tony Brueski and Robin Dreeke take apart the listener questions that keep flooding the comments — starting with what the sheriff’s uncertainty tells you about the gap between these agencies. Nanos is dismissing the TMZ emailer as a fraud while the FBI is reportedly spending resources to identify that person. Harvey Levin offered to pay the Bitcoin and follow the money. The FBI ghosted him, then told him to stop. The arrests, the agency friction, the emailer who keeps coming back, the million-dollar reward nobody claims — and a sheriff under recall pressure who sounds like he’s learning about FBI activity from the same news cycle as everyone else. Tony and Robin push into all of it. A Hidden Killers investigation. Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #RobinDreeke #FBI #ChrisNanos #HarveyLevin #PimaCounty #JusticeForNancy
June 29 · 18 min
Nancy Guthrie's 'Porch Guy' — One Agent's Bombshell on the Arrest
After a long stretch of silence, the Nancy Guthrie case got a surge of confidence from an unexpected place. On Megyn Kelly's show, retired FBI agent Maureen O'Connell said her sources tell her investigators are closing in on "porch guy," the masked man recorded outside the 84-year-old's home the night she vanished. She placed her confidence at 75 percent and said his identification would open the floodgates. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer weighs whether the claim holds. She explains what a confidence level is worth from outside the case, how anyone names a man who hid his face — reportedly from eye shape and DNA — and whether one masked figure can really crack the whole thing open. She also takes on the slow-pace explanation: a case built to beat an elite defense. Is an arrest close, or is this optimism with nothing under it? And how does it square with reporting that the trail's gone cold? All claims are reported and unconfirmed; no one has been charged. A Hidden Killers conversation on the Nancy Guthrie case. LINKS: Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod DISCLAIMER: This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS: #NancyGuthrie #PorchGuy #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #FBI #MegynKelly #Tucson #PimaCounty #SavannahGuthrie #JenniferCoffindaffer
June 29 · 15 min
Nancy Guthrie's Investigators Won't Say the One Thing Everyone's Waiting For
Behind the headlines, the Nancy Guthrie case may be quietly stuck. Air Mail's Howard Blum reports that the investigators themselves fear an early mistake cost them their best chance to solve the abduction of the 84-year-old grandmother. Suspects reportedly hauled in and released. Leads going nowhere. The task force back on the ransom notes because the trail offered nothing newer. Brian Entin's sources describe the same vanishing act. Retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer takes it apart. She explains what it signals when agents admit fear about their own case, whether clearing suspect after suspect is real movement or none at all, and how a Bitcoin misstep can hobble an investigation. And she confronts the piece that won't add up — a kidnapper who demanded millions and never touched the money. If cash was the goal, why abandon it? How do cases like this actually end? And is "nobody knows" the truth, or just the public version? All claims are reported and unconfirmed; no one has been charged. A Hidden Killers conversation on the Nancy Guthrie case. LINKS: Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod DISCLAIMER: This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS: #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #FBI #PimaCounty #MissingPerson #Tucson #Bitcoin #JenniferCoffindaffer
June 29 · 58 min
Nancy Guthrie: The Note, the Doubt, and the Arrest That Might Be Coming
The Nancy Guthrie case refuses to settle into one story. The notes contradict each other. One set of reporting says investigators are stuck; another says they're nearly there. Both can't be right — so this full conversation with retired FBI Special Agent Jennifer Coffindaffer takes on all three threads at once. The notes: a message reportedly claiming the 84-year-old is "buried with nature," a separate TMZ tipster's "time is no longer of the essence," and an apology one outlet reported and TMZ disputes. The stall: Air Mail's reporting that agents fear they blew it early, and a ransom of millions never collected. The possible break: Maureen O'Connell's claim to Megyn Kelly that the bureau is 75 percent of the way to identifying "porch guy." Coffindaffer separates fact from noise, explains how two former agents disagree so sharply, and confronts the question at the heart of it — is this case dead, or about to break wide open? All claims are reported and unconfirmed; no one has been charged. A Hidden Killers conversation on the Nancy Guthrie case. LINKS: Join Our SubStack For AD-FREE ADVANCE EPISODES & EXTRAS!: https://hiddenkillers.substack.com/ Want to comment and watch this podcast as a video? Check out our YouTube Channel. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8-vxmbhTxxG10sO1izODJg?sub_confirmation=1 Instagram https://www.instagram.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Facebook https://www.facebook.com/hiddenkillerspod/ Tik-Tok https://www.tiktok.com/@hiddenkillerspod X Twitter https://x.com/TrueCrimePod DISCLAIMER: This publication contains commentary and opinion based on publicly available information. All individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. Nothing published here should be taken as a statement of fact, health or legal advice. HASHTAGS: #NancyGuthrie #SavannahGuthrie #HiddenKillers #TrueCrime #PorchGuy #FBI #RansomNote #Tucson #PimaCounty #JenniferCoffindaffer

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