Evolution 2.0

Perry Marshall

The Evolution 2.0 Podcast explores the intersection of art, technology, business, biology and spirituality. Discover new trends in evolution that change the way we think about everything. Host Perry Marshall is author of Evolution 2.0 and founded the Evolution 2.0 Technology Prize, a $5 million quest for the missing link between the information age and life itself.

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Yesterday · 23 min
Biology doesn’t Just Obey Mathematics. Biology Creates Mathematics.
Physics always obeys equations. Biology does not. Sometimes... but not always! There is scarcely any formula in biology that is 100% true. In biology, there is no precise definition of life, species, individual, gene, allele, inheritance,...
August 5 · 1 hr
From the Selfish Gene to the Sermon on the Mount — Andrew Gosler's Journey
I met Rev. Prof. Andrew G. Gosler at a dinner at Oxford a few years ago — he's an ornithologist who spent 30 years in the woods studying birds, and he completely lit up the room. He grew up Jewish, ditched religion at his bar mitzvah to go birding,...
January 27 · 53 min
Anatomy of a Near-Death Experience
Anthony Hilb lives with asthma and chronic respiratory issues. In May 2025, he experienced a medical crisis that caused him to briefly lose consciousness and have a near-death experience. In this conversation, Anthony shares what he encountered during...
Sep 18, 2025 · 1 hr 48 min
There Are No Equal Signs in Biology
Jay Cross interviews me about my new paper, https://evo2.org/mathematics-biology/ (co-authored with Sy Garte and Stuart Kauffman.) Together we explore why “there are no equal signs in biology,” how this revelation redefines medicine as we know it, and...
Sep 15, 2025 · 1 hr 9 min
Thin Places: Where the space between this world and the next is thinner
Perry describes a series of life-changing "thin place" experiences that shifted his reality. This was presented to Adam Safron's Sapience group, followed by a guided meditation and a Q&A at the end. A further expansion on these ideas is online at...
Aug 13, 2025 · 52 min
Beyond Evolution: Purposeful Biology Isn't Just For Christians Anymore
Sy Garte's book, Beyond Evolution, is written for the person who is trying to reconcile their deep yearnings for meaning and significance with the longstanding scientific dogma that nature has no purpose. Not only is the tide shifting dramatically...
Aug 12, 2025 · 46 min
Bridging Evolution: A Conversation Between Intelligent Design and Third Way
What happens when researchers from competing scientific worldviews sit down for an honest conversation? In this dialogue, three thinkers—exploring Neo-Darwinism,Third Way evolution, and Intelligent Design—discover unexpected common ground while...
Aug 8, 2025 · 1 hr 17 min
Bridging Evolution: A Conversation Between Intelligent Design and Third Way
What happens when researchers from competing scientific worldviews sit down for an honest conversation? In this dialogue, three thinkers—exploring Neo-Darwinism,Third Way evolution, and Intelligent Design—discover unexpected common ground while...
Jun 20, 2025 · 46 min
What does it mean to truly flourish?
Andrew Briggs started to write the book Human Flourishing just before COVID and then the world went mad. Since then, the world has gotten even madder and many people are clutching their smartphones, wringing their hands, managing their anxiety, or...
Jun 20, 2025 · 46 min
What does it mean to truly flourish?
Andrew Briggs started to write the book Human Flourishing just before COVID and then the world went mad. Since then, the world has gotten even madder and many people are clutching their smartphones, wringing their hands, managing their anxiety, or...
Jun 11, 2025 · 45 min
When A Christian Insists On A Spiritual Demilitarized Zone
Derek Dearden from the UK and Perry Marshall discuss how to hold deeply held beliefs while also making space for people with widely differing views. Hosted on Acast. See https://acast.com/privacy for more information.
May 9, 2025 · 50 min
Life doesn’t merely obey rules. Life CREATES them.
Tim Howard interviews me and Sy Garte about our new paper with Stuart Kauffman, https://evo2.org/mathematics-biology/. Join us for a fascinating discussion about a new revolution underfoot in biology: Hosted on Acast. See https://acast.com/privacy for...
Apr 2, 2025 · 59 min
New Theory & Practice for Cancer – Azra Raza and Michael Levin
Two of my favorite scientists, Michael Levin and Azra Raza with Aastha Jain Simes, put their heads together in this provocative and touching interview. Azra describes the technology of our new company PredictRX that detects cancer at Stage Negative...
Dec 21, 2024 · 1 hr 5 min
Donna Meyers is STILL beating cancer after 35 years
She's 86, yet she looks like she's in her 60s. After 35 years of Myelodysplastic Syndrome, she is still beating the odds every day. In our conversation, she explains her radical outlook and her success under the watchful eye of oncologist Dr. Azra...
Aug 19, 2024 · 1 hr 5 min
Irreducible Mind: Why the Current Paradigm is passed its expiration date with Edward Kelly
Edward Kelly is a neuroscientist whose research overturns the current popular definition of the mind. We had a fantastic conversation about his non-traditional path in scientific research. He is a scientist at the University of Virginia. Hosted on...
Aug 7, 2024 · 1 hr
Courage Fueled by Curiosity = Love
Why are important conversations so difficult, and why is curiosity the greatest virtue? Dov Baron from British Columbia describes the emotional source code rules that govern our discussions about politics, religion, evolution, cancer, and...
Jul 29, 2024 · 1 hr 2 min
Discussions About Science, Philosophy and Theology (interview by Subboor Ahmad)
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May 28, 2024 · 18 min
Detecting Cancer at Stage Negative One - Perry Marshall at SBMT
Perry Marshall spoke at the Society for Brain Mapping and Therapeutics 21st annual conference in Los Angeles, 16 March 2024. He describes how outdated textbook evolution is inhibiting research and keeping us stuck in the old, gene-centric paradigm,...
Apr 23, 2024 · 1 hr 18 min
Brothers Reunite: The Story Behind Evolution 2.0
EXACTLY 20 years ago this week, I flew to China to see my brother Bryan.We got into an argument on a bus (a story I’ve told 1000 times). He wasbailing on his missionary career and his entire Christian upbringing, and I found this deeply upsetting....
Apr 10, 2024 · 1 hr 3 min
The Reasonable Ineffectiveness of Mathematics in the Life Sciences
Well-known biologist and author Sy Garte, author of the new book “Science and Faith in Harmony” joins Perry. They explore the alignment between science and faith and probe purpose in biology. They discuss the challenges of applying mathematical...

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