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Earley AI Podcast

Seth Earley

In this podcast hosts Seth Earley invites a broad array of thought leaders and practitioners to talk about what's possible in artificial intelligence as well as what is practical in the space as we move toward a world where AI is embedded in all aspects of our personal and professional lives. They explore what's emerging in technology, data science, and enterprise applications for artificial intelligence and machine learning and how to get from early-stage AI projects to fully mature applications. Seth is founder & CEO of Earley Information Science and the award-winning author of "The AI Powered Enterprise." 

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  • #101
    Yesterday · 46 min

    Earley AI Podcast – Episode 101: IoT and OT Security, How AI Erased Security Through Obscurity, and What Organizations Need to Do Now with John Gallagher

    Why the Physical World Is Now the Biggest Cybersecurity Vulnerability in Most Organizations - and Why AI Changed Everything Guest: John Gallagher, VP Viakoo Labs at Viakoo Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: September 28, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with John Gallagher, VP of Viakoo Labs at Viakoo, a company that has spent 12 years building automated cyber hygiene for IoT and OT systems across millions of devices. They explore why the physical world - cameras, building automation, water infrastructure, manufacturing equipment - is now the most underprotected attack surface in most organizations, how AI has eliminated the obscurity that passively protected these systems for decades, why ransomware has shifted from stealing data to shutting down operations, why human-in-the-loop is a hard line that can never be crossed in OT remediation, and what it actually takes to build a digital twin of every device in an enterprise environment and use it to match the speed of AI-driven threats. Key Takeaways: IT security investments do not transfer to OT and IoT environments - the 150,000 operating systems, device types, and tightly coupled application relationships require a completely separate approach. AI has eliminated security through obscurity - threat actors who previously could not justify the effort to attack niche OT systems can now use AI to read manuals, understand device architectures, and find vulnerabilities at scale. Ransomware has shifted from stealing data to shutting down operations - holding a manufacturing line or energy facility hostage is a fundamentally different and more consequential threat than data exfiltration. Organizations typically have 5 to 20 times more OT and IoT devices than IT systems - the attack surface is orders of magnitude larger than most executives realize. Threat detection in OT is now a solved problem - the unsolved problem is remediation at scale, which requires AI-assisted preparation and autonomous execution with a human in the loop for every deployment decision. A digital twin of every device - tracking make, model, firmware, memory state, configuration, and change over time - is the foundational knowledge layer before any security action can be taken. The defense is not a smarter model - it is knowing what you own, what connects to what, what breaks when you touch it, and who is accountable. That is an inventory problem, a normalization problem, and an information architecture problem. Insightful Quotes: "AI has brought what we call the inversion. It's taken things like remediation - firmware, password, certificate updates - and said, if you were okay updating even a few hundred devices manually a few times a year, those days are gone. It's a daily occurrence now, and you have to match AI speed." - John Gallagher "Will we ever put AI in charge of deploying that firmware update? Never. That is a hard line. There is a strong argument that AI never should be put in a decision-making process in this environment without a human in the loop." - John Gallagher "For decades, devices running on the physical side of business were protected by the fact that they were too obscure to be worth an attacker's time. That protection was never a strategy, and AI has erased it. The defense is not a smarter model - it is the knowledge of what you own, the firmware, what connects to it, what breaks when you touch it, who is accountable." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why IoT and OT security is the most consequential and most underestimated cybersecurity challenge in the enterprise today - and what the path from awareness to remediation at scale requires. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/b2bpipelinebuilder/ Website: https://www.viakoo.com/company/ Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #100
    Thursday · 35 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 100: Running a Business on AI, the Three Loop Framework, and Why Organizations Need to Think Bigger with Bryan McAnulty

    Why the Organizations Getting the Most from AI Are the Ones That Stopped Treating It as a Tool and Started Treating It as a Collaborative Partner Guest: Bryan McAnulty, Founder and Product Director at Heights Platform and LatchLoop Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: September 22, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Bryan McAnulty, Founder and Product Director at Heights Platform - a platform that has helped over 10,000 creators build online knowledge businesses - and LatchLoop, an AI agent platform he built to run his own company and is now launching for other teams. They explore why most organizations are dramatically underestimating what AI can do right now, how the gap between idea and execution has collapsed to near zero, why unambiguous outcomes are the difference between an agent that delivers and one that invents its own problems, and what a three-loop framework for automation, goals, and feedback changes about how teams work. Bryan shares candid and specific insights from years of running AI-first operations - including what happens when you give agents too much autonomy and the cognitive load lessons that changed how LatchLoop was designed. Key Takeaways: Most organizations are treating AI as a better search engine - the ones that will win are the ones treating it as a collaborative partner capable of long-running autonomous work. The gap between idea and execution has collapsed to near zero - what previously took months of engineering can now be handed off to a model with a well-defined plan and verified in hours. Three loops structure how AI agents should work: automation loops for recurring well-defined tasks, goal loops for longer autonomous work with verifiable outcomes, and feedback loops for iterative back-and-forth work. Unambiguous outcomes are the most important input to any agent - without them, models will invent tasks, solve problems that do not exist, and add unrequested changes that seemed aligned with the goal. Agent guardrails should be structural, not aspirational - not please do not break production but forcing the agent to operate only in the branch, environment, or scope it is authorized to touch. Agent memory and institutional knowledge should be portable - if it lives only inside a vendor's platform, you are building organizational intelligence you cannot take with you. Your ideas are better than the AI's ideas - the implementation belongs to the agent, but the vision, the why, and the how-it-actually-feels-to-a-human belongs to you and always will. Insightful Quotes: "The companies who are gonna win realize that there's a fundamentally different and better thing we can now offer that we could have never done before. And part of the challenge is we're all looking at the same little chat text input that we had in 2023, but the capabilities of the models and the tools behind them are just so much different now." - Bryan McAnulty "You can't say make me the best website. Because make me the best website will give you the most average website. You need to define what best means to you. And if you don't know how to define that to the model, then ask it - what could we do that could make this verifiably true for what I'm looking for?" - Bryan McAnulty "We have a requirements gap now. Because the tools can build these outputs and perform these tasks, it's really about being crisp and precise about what those inputs should be - defining requirements in as much granularity as possible. That is where the human has to show up." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why running a business on AI requires a fundamentally different way of thinking about work - and what the organizations getting it right have built that most teams have not. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bryanmcanulty/ Heights Platform: https://www.heightsplatform.com LatchLoop: https://www.latchloop.com Ways to Tune In: Earley AI Podcast: https://www.earley.com/earley-ai-podcast-home dLogos: https://dlogos.xyz/podcasts/earley-ai-podcast-271271ce Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1586654770 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5nkcZvVYjHHj6wtBABqLbE iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-earley-ai-podcast-87108370/ Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/earley-ai-podcast Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/18524b67-09cf-433f-82db-07b6213ad3ba/earley-ai-podcast Buzzsprout: https://earleyai.buzzsprout.com/ Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #98
    September 15 · 35 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 98 Agentic AI in Finance, the Trusted Advisor Advantage, and the Pricing Model Reckoning with Nikita Komarov

    What It Takes to Build AI That Is Accurate Enough, Traceable Enough, and Trustworthy Enough for High-Stakes Financial Work Guest: Nikita Komarov, CEO and Founder at Dobs.AI Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: September 9, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Nikita Komarov, CEO and Founder of Dobs.AI, who spent seven years at McKinsey advising Fortune 1000 executives before founding a company that is rebuilding financial due diligence, internal audit, and vendor overpayment recovery from the ground up as agentic AI systems. They explore why financial professionals are the most resistant to AI adoption and why that resistance is rational, how orchestrating teams of AI agents with financial controls built in produces outputs that are deterministic enough for audit, why the difference between an efficiency tool and a production-ready AI system is enormous, and how the trusted advisor status accountants have built over decades becomes a platform for entirely new services in the AI era. Key Takeaways: Financial professionals are among the most resistant to AI adoption for a rational reason - LLMs are non-deterministic by nature, and accounting requires numbers that are 100% accurate and traceable. Building production-grade financial AI requires three levers working together: orchestrating teams of agents with defined roles, building financial controls and guardrails into the pipeline, and solving for data extraction accuracy before any analysis begins. The difference between an efficiency tool like Claude or ChatGPT and a production-ready AI system is not the model - it is the architecture, the controls, and the product thinking required to get from unstructured input to a final output a human can take to a client. DOBS AI compresses financial due diligence from a six-week engagement to 72 hours for the management meeting - cutting the cycle from week and a half to three days on that critical milestone alone. Accounting firms have more trust with clients than management consultants or lawyers, and that trust combined with recurring access creates a platform for expanding into advisory services that AI now makes possible. The pricing model reckoning is real - time and materials no longer makes sense when AI does the work in hours, and firms need to shift to value-based pricing anchored to the outcome delivered, not the hours spent. The long-term trajectory is positive, but the mid-term transition is the risk - AI is compressing decades of technological change into five to ten years, and organizations and individuals who are not adapting will be left behind. Insightful Quotes: "Large language models, they predict the next word. That's why these systems are non-deterministic. You can't say what the output will be next. That's the problem in financial services - you need 100% accuracy, but you don't know what the system is going to tell you." - Nikita Komarov "That's exactly the difference between an efficiency tool and a production-ready solution. When people say we use AI, they most likely mean Copilot or ChatGPT - and that's 5 to 10% of what's actually possible." - Nikita Komarov "You can't automate what you don't understand. The first thing you have to do is say, what is the expected output and the outcome, and then how do I verify that I actually get there?" - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why financial AI is one of the most demanding and highest-stakes applications in the enterprise - and what it actually takes to build systems that are accurate and auditable enough to trust. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikita-komarov/ Website: https://dobs.ai Ways to Tune In: Earley AI Podcast: https://www.earley.com/earley-ai-podcast-home Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1586654770 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5nkcZvVYjHHj6wtBABqLbE iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-earley-ai-podcast-87108370/ Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/earley-ai-podcast Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/18524b67-09cf-433f-82db-07b6213ad3ba/earley-ai-podcast Buzzsprout: https://earleyai.buzzsprout.com/ Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #99
    September 15 · 42 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 99 Data Governance, Business Context, and Why AI Makes the Old Problems Worse with Zoher Karu

    Why the Same Data Problems That Existed Before AI Still Exist - They Just Get Expressed Faster, With More Confidence Guest: Zoher Karu, Founder and President at ZiZi Advisors Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: September 14, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Zoher Karu, Founder and President of ZiZi Advisors, who has spent his career building enterprise data and analytics programs at Sears Holdings, eBay, Citibank, and Blue Shield of California - and building personalization systems before personalization was something a large language model could attempt. They explore why data governance has become the most important discipline in the AI era, why giving an LLM clean data is still not enough if it does not understand your business, why the differentiating factor between organizations will not be the model but the context, and what executives most consistently get wrong when they point powerful new tools at the same old data problems. Key Takeaways: Data governance has become sexy again not because AI demands new governance, but because the cost of skipping the old kind now shows up faster, with more confidence behind the wrong answer. Pointing a more powerful AI engine at ungoverned data does not produce better answers - it produces bad decisions faster, with AI's characteristic knack for sounding right even when it is wrong. Multiple definitions of the same metric across the same organization - different versions of active customer, different versions of sales - are not AI problems, they are governance problems that AI amplifies. Cleaning data is necessary but not sufficient - the model also needs to understand the context of your business, the rules, the exceptions, and the institutional knowledge that lives in people's heads. The AI models themselves are moving toward commoditization; the differentiating factor will be how well organizations have captured and made available their own business context and knowledge. Start with productivity improvements to demonstrate early value, but the real value of AI is business process change - asking not just how to automate the notes after a phone call, but why you are taking phone calls at all. Governance is not internal bureaucracy - it is the brakes in the car. The reason you can go fast around a curve is that you know you have brakes. Controls let you operate at the limit rather than inching along out of fear. Insightful Quotes: "Just because you point powerful AI tools at your data doesn't mean it can figure out exactly what's what. There might be four columns called sales. How does it know which one you actually meant? And the classic problems - data silos, multiple sources of truth, ambiguity about how things connect together - they always existed, and they still exist." - Zoher Karu "You can give an LLM all the data you want, and it can be pristine, but if you don't tell it the context around the way to use that data, that's going to be the next wave of problems to solve. The way you run your business is also your asset - and that is typically captured loosely in documents, Slack messages, emails, or not captured anywhere at all." - Zoher Karu "The organizations that treat AI like magic are the ones that are getting burned. The same old problems - the data silos, the multiple sources of truth, the missing business context - do not disappear. They just get expressed faster, with more confidence." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why the discipline that seemed least exciting in the AI era turns out to be the most consequential - and what it takes to build an AI foundation that actually reflects how your organization runs. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zzkaru/ Ways to Tune In: Earley AI Podcast: https://www.earley.com/earley-ai-podcast-home dLogos: https://dlogos.xyz/podcasts/earley-ai-podcast-271271ce Apple Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/podcast/id1586654770 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5nkcZvVYjHHj6wtBABqLbE iHeart Radio: https://www.iheart.com/podcast/269-earley-ai-podcast-87108370/ Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/show/earley-ai-podcast Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/18524b67-09cf-433f-82db-07b6213ad3ba/earley-ai-podcast Buzzsprout: https://earleyai.buzzsprout.com/ Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #97
    August 14 · 41 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 97: Biological Computing, Brain-Derived Algorithms, and the Future of AI Efficiency with Alex Ksendzovsky

    Why Making AI More Biological May Be the Most Consequential Development in the History of Computing Guest: Alex Ksendzovsky, CEO and Co-Founder at The Biological Computing Company Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: August 14, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Alex Ksendzovsky, CEO and Co-Founder of The Biological Computing Company, a neurosurgeon and neuroscientist who spent nearly two decades studying how the brain processes information - including implanting electrodes into human brains to understand epilepsy and growing neurons in a dish to study them at the molecular level. They explore why the AI field diverged sharply from biology in the 1980s and what was left behind, how TBC grows real brain cells on electrode arrays to derive mathematical principles that improve AI algorithms, what a 13-20% improvement in video generation quality and a 4-5x efficiency gain means against an industry where 1-2% counts as significant, and where biological computing is headed in the next decade and beyond. This is one of the most technically ambitious and genuinely novel conversations the podcast has had. Key Takeaways: AI diverged sharply from biology in the 1980s when backpropagation was introduced - it produced highly performant systems but at the cost of massive energy inefficiency that the brain solved hundreds of millions of years ago. TBC grows hundreds of thousands of neurons on electrode arrays with 4,096 electrodes, encodes information as electrical patterns, and derives mathematical principles from how those neurons actually process and represent that information. The adapter products built from these biological principles plug into existing transformer architectures and produce 13-20% improvements in video quality metrics where a 1-2% improvement is considered publication-worthy. On efficiency, TBC's adapters currently produce a 4-5x improvement in frames per second - and when combined with existing optimization strategies, the two approaches are synergistic rather than conflicting. The catastrophic forgetting problem - AI's inability to learn continuously without losing what was previously learned - is one TBC is directly attacking by studying how biological synapses change during closed-loop learning and deriving new learning rules from that process. The brain is millions of times more efficient than silicon; even capturing a minuscule portion of that through biologically-derived principles has produced gains that suggest the ceiling for this approach is enormous. The ethical framework is clear: the cultured neurons used in TBC's experiments are fundamentally different from a brain - lacking the three-dimensional structure, scale, and emergent properties associated with sentience - and TBC actively works with bioethicists to maintain those guardrails. Insightful Quotes: "Moving forward past the 1980s into 2026, you have extremely performant AI systems, but they're being trained with brute force and they're extremely inefficient. At TBC, we think the reason for this is because they became extremely non-biological." - Alex Ksendzovsky "Just making it a tiny, tiny bit more biological reached these massive gains. It's a testament to the complexity of how the brain operates, and the more of these principles and primitives we can derive and apply, the more improvements we'll get in terms of performance and efficiency." - Alex Ksendzovsky "The gap is not a coincidence. It's a result of hundreds of millions of years of evolution solving the same problems that we are now trying to solve in silicon." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why biological computing may be the most consequential and least-understood frontier in AI infrastructure today - and what it means for the energy crisis that is already shaping every data center investment being made. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexander-ksendzovsky-31732711/ Website: https://www.tbc.co Blog: https://www.tbc.co/blog Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #96
    August 4 · 45 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 96: AI in Clinical Trials, the Vibe Coding Fallacy, and Bending Eroom's Law with Patrick Leung

    Why Applying AI to Drug Development Is One of the Most Technically Demanding Problems in the Industry - and What Is Finally Making It Solvable Guest: Patrick Leung, Chief Technology Officer at Faro Health Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: August 4, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Patrick Leung, Chief Technology Officer at Faro Health, who spent over a decade at Google including working on Google Duplex before bringing that technical depth to one of the most regulated and high-stakes domains in medicine. They explore why generative AI is in the trough of disillusionment in pharma, what the vibe coding fallacy costs organizations that believe they can build clinical software by prompting, how classical machine learning models and modern LLMs are working together to forecast trial outcomes, and why every day of clinical trial delay can cost up to half a million dollars in lost revenue. Patrick shares candid and specific insights on prompt injection as the new SQL injection, why human experts cannot be removed from clinical AI workflows, and what bending Eroom's Law would mean for patients worldwide. Key Takeaways: Generative AI is in the trough of disillusionment in pharma - the initial hype that AI could automate entire clinical processes has collided with the real complexity of the domain and the limits of the technology. Vibe coding hits an event horizon of complexity - demo apps are achievable by prompting, but real enterprise software requires proper engineering, security design, testing discipline, and architectural decision-making that AI cannot replace. Prompt injection is the new SQL injection - any tool that uses AI to process user input is now vulnerable to a class of attacks that did not exist before, and most organizations are not yet protecting against them. Classical machine learning models and modern LLMs are more powerful together than either is alone - survivor curve models from insurance analytics proved directly transferable to clinical trial forecasting with strong results. Every day of clinical trial delay can cost up to half a million dollars in lost revenue - and a typical amendment forcing a trial redesign and resubmission runs three to six months. Generic general-purpose models cannot replace domain-specific knowledge engineering in clinical contexts - the claim that they can is an easy sales pitch that does not survive contact with the actual complexity of the problem. The goal is not to automate clinical professionals out of existence but to remove the rote and repetitive work so they can focus on the judgment calls that only they can make. Insightful Quotes: "There's no escaping the fact that you need to test software. There's no escaping the fact that you need to have specs that are really well thought out. As you add more features to a codebase, it gets more complex and unwieldy and difficult to maintain. You can't vibe code your way out of those key design decisions." - Patrick Leung "I found myself applying models I'd learned about in a completely different domain. Survivor curve models we used for predicting insurance policy claims worked pretty well when applied to clinical trials. Transferability is really a thing." - Patrick Leung "Eroom's Law is not sustainable. Any exponential increase in cost is not sustainable by definition. So we want to bend Eroom's Law - and hopefully reverse it. Why not?" - Patrick Leung Tune in to discover why AI in clinical drug development is one of the hardest and most consequential problems in the field - and what is finally making it tractable. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/puiwah/ Website: https://www.farohealth.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #95
    July 30 · 40 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 95: Contract Intelligence, Context Engineering, and Building AI That Scales with Deepak Bapat

    Why Making Complex Revenue Simple at Scale Requires More Than Throwing Contracts Into a Chat Interface Guest: Deepak Bapat, Co-Founder and CTO at Tabs Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: July 30, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Deepak Bapat, Co-Founder and CTO at Tabs, a revenue and accounts receivable management platform built for B2B companies. They explore why dropping contracts into a general-purpose AI tool is not a strategy for enterprise scale, what generative AI unlocked that OCR and legacy machine learning could never solve, why context engineering beat fine-tuning for contract extraction, and why newer and larger models are not always better for specialized tasks. Deepak shares candid and specific insights on building atomic AI pipelines, the provability requirement that financial compliance demands, and what finance and data leaders consistently underestimate before deploying AI on their contracts. Key Takeaways: Dropping contracts into a chat interface is a reasonable experiment but not an enterprise strategy - doing things at scale requires specific tooling, specific expertise, and integration across systems. The SaaSpocalypse framing misses the point - the more interesting question is not whether chat replaces UI, but how platforms can understand intent and preempt the actions users would otherwise have to click through manually. Generative AI solved the contract problem by reasoning over ambiguous natural language at document level - something OCR and rules-based systems fundamentally could not do. Context engineering beat fine-tuning at Tabs because merchant preferences vary so significantly that fine-tuning per merchant became cost-prohibitive - a well-prompted generalized model proved faster and more elastic. Newer and larger models are not always better for specialized tasks - Deepak's eval sets show that models from six months ago outperform newer versions on certain contract extraction jobs, likely due to overfitting on coding. Provability is the non-negotiable requirement in financial AI - it is not enough to produce correct output, you must be able to prove the output is correct and traceable back to the source contract. Organizations that want to deploy AI on their contracts first need to standardize internally on what outcomes they actually want - two people on the same team asking the same question about the same contract should not produce two different answers. Insightful Quotes: "The misconception is that difficult problems can just be solved by throwing something into ChatGPT and having the answer come out the other side. In our case, the at-scale piece is everything. Those intelligence tools are still individualized tools - to do things at scale for an entire enterprise still takes specific tooling, specific thought, and specific expertise." - Deepak Bapat "What we're trying to do is move from a place of unstructured data to provable and correct structured data. That is what Tabs is built around - and that is what most of these other systems simply cannot handle." - Deepak Bapat "When you think about the legacy players that were more rigid SaaS tools with manual entry and brittle connectors - what was intractable about that model is exactly what generative AI made solvable. The ability to reason over the words in a document, understand what they meant, and understand what the output should be - that changed everything." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover what it actually takes to build AI that is accurate enough, auditable enough, and elastic enough to handle enterprise revenue data at scale - and what most organizations underestimate before they start. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/deepakbapat/ Website: https://www.tabs.inc Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #94
    July 28 · 48 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 94: Cybersecurity, AI Risk, and Why Security Is a Sales Motion with Taylor Hersom

    How the Threat Landscape Is Being Rewritten and What Organizations Need to Do Before It Gets Ahead of Them Guest: Taylor Hersom, Founder of Eden Data and Managing Director at Riveron Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: July 28, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Taylor Hersom, Founder of Eden Data and Managing Director at Riveron, a cybersecurity and compliance firm he built and grew before its acquisition in 2025. They explore why security is still treated as a cost center when it should be treated as a sales motion and competitive differentiator, how AI has exponentially expanded the attack surface, why most organizations have adopted AI with almost no security program around it, and how the subscription model Taylor pioneered is now reshaping how professional services firms price and deliver work. Taylor shares candid and specific insights on AI governance standards, the limits of automated threat detection, and why information architecture is the foundation security professionals are finding missing everywhere they go. Key Takeaways: Security is still treated as a cost center by most organizations when it should be viewed as a trust-building and sales motion that directly impacts revenue and brand reputation. Pre-revenue startups are now arriving with a million lines of AI-generated code - the attack surface has expanded exponentially and security programs have not kept pace. Most organizations have adopted AI across the enterprise without any AI-specific security program, controls around LLM access, or governance over what models are allowed to do. ISO 42001 and the NIST AI Risk Management Framework are the clearest starting points for organizations that want to de-risk their AI environment without reinventing the wheel. AI in security has shifted the human role from doing the work to supervising it - but final judgment on whether a threat is legitimate still requires a human and always will. Unorganized, incorrect, or inaccessible data creates systemic risk in AI environments - poor information architecture is what leads to the snowball effect of cascading security failures. The subscription model for security services - pricing for outcomes rather than hours - has proven durable across market conditions and is now becoming the industry expectation. Insightful Quotes: "We naturally leaned into AI from a technology standpoint, and there is almost no security around it to speak of. If you go ask the average company that's using AI across their enterprise, they probably don't have an AI-specific program where they have controls around their LLM and their processes and their access - and that is terrifying." - Taylor Hersom "Rather than go the FUD route - fear, uncertainty, and doubt - you can look at security as a way to build your brand and make it a part of your identity, and be proactive in how you use this when educating customers about how you protect their data." - Taylor Hersom "There's no AI without IA. Security requires information architecture - access controls, data organization, knowing what you have and where it lives. When you start losing control of your data, you start to create risks you don't even know about." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why cybersecurity in the AI era is no longer just a technical problem - and what organizations need to put in place before the threat landscape gets ahead of them. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/taylorhersom/ Website: http://www.riveron.com Website: https://www.edendata.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #93
    June 17 · 44 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 93: AI Translation, Brand Voice, and Global Content with Olga Beregovaya

    Why the Gap Between an AI Translation Demo and Enterprise Production Is Wider Than Most Organizations Realize Guest: Olga Beregovaya, VP of AI at Smartling Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: June 17, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Olga Beregovaya, VP of AI at Smartling, who brings 25 years of experience across every major evolution in natural language processing - from rules-based systems through statistical models, neural translation, and now LLMs. They explore why plugging into a commercial model at token-level pricing is not a translation strategy, how brand voice fractures at 300,000 employees, why information architecture is just as essential for language pipelines as it is for retrieval, and what it actually takes to deliver consistent, on-brand, multilingual content at enterprise scale. Olga shares candid and specific insights on language complexity, the human-in-the-loop imperative, and why the organizations that are finally succeeding with AI have stopped treating it as art for art's sake. Key Takeaways: The price of a commercial model's tokens is not the cost of enterprise AI translation - data integrity, pipeline architecture, linguistic assets, and human review are the real cost drivers. Brand voice fractures the moment every employee can generate content autonomously - a Fortune 10 company discovered it had 300,000 voices overnight after deploying a co-pilot tool. Information architecture is equally essential for language pipelines as for retrieval - nested HTML tags, tokenization failures, and unstructured content break translation before the model ever sees the text. LLMs unlocked context that neural machine translation never had - resolving pronouns, disambiguating terminology, and working at document level instead of sentence by sentence. The assumption that AI translation works equally across all languages is one of the most dangerous misconceptions in the space - morphological complexity, writing systems, and training data representation vary enormously. Human review is not optional even in fully automated pipelines - it is how models learn, how ground truth is established, and how brand consistency is maintained over time. The organizations now succeeding with AI translation have moved from implement-and-fail to measured deployment - defining use cases, respecting prerequisites, and matching tooling to actual requirements. Insightful Quotes: "Yes, you can totally consume your million tokens at a super low price point, but what exactly are you buying for this money? Everybody can totally produce a translation or generate copy, but is it going to represent your brand? That's a different question." - Olga Beregovaya "He installed a co-pilot tool and said, it's great, except my company has 300,000 employees and now my company has 300,000 voices. That's not necessarily what I was prepared for in different countries." - Olga Beregovaya "If you want your models to evolve, and if you want your models to learn, you obviously need somewhere for these models to learn from - and this is where human review comes in. It is always twofold: guaranteeing the quality to your customers, and helping your models evolve." - Olga Beregovaya Tune in to discover why AI translation at enterprise scale requires far more than a model and an API key - and what the organizations getting it right have built that their competitors have not. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/olga-beregovaya-04b5/ Website: https://www.smartling.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #92
    June 1 · 40 min

    Earley AI Podcast – Episode 92: Supply Chain Intelligence, Knowledge Graphs, and the Limits of the Easy Button with Ilya Levtov

    Why Supply Chain Visibility Is One of the Most Consequential and Underestimated Applications of AI in the Enterprise Guest: Ilya Levtov, Founder and CEO at Craft.co Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: June 1, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Ilya Levtov, Founder and CEO of Craft.co, a supplier intelligence platform that uses AI and knowledge graphs to give enterprises and government agencies visibility into their full supply networks. They explore why most organizations believe they have adequate supply chain visibility when they do not, why a simple risk score will always mislead, and how cross-correlating data streams surfaces risks that no human - and no generic LLM - would ever find alone. Ilya shares candid and specific insights on building knowledge graphs for mission-critical infrastructure, why only one percent of enterprise knowledge exists inside today's LLMs, and how the give-to-get model is turning supply chain intelligence into a shared strategic asset. Key Takeaways: Most enterprises believe their top-supplier relationships give them adequate visibility - but the middle and long tail of a supply network, which can run to 20,000 or 30,000 suppliers, remains almost entirely opaque. Supply chain is a misnomer - it is a complex, multi-dimensional network where companies are simultaneously suppliers, customers, and competitors to each other. A simple risk score is not meaningful and not actionable; supplier risk is deeply contextual and requires human judgment to weigh cost, probability, and consequence together. Cross-correlating data streams reveals hidden risks that no single source can surface - including correlations between employee morale and cybersecurity vulnerability that have proven highly predictive. Only approximately one percent of enterprise knowledge exists inside today's LLMs - which is exactly why a specialized knowledge graph grounded in proprietary data is essential before applying AI. AI has compressed analyst work on a supplier report from eight hours to under 30 minutes - but the decision of what to do with those findings still requires human judgment and always will. The give-to-get model and supplier passporting allow enterprises to share intelligence across a shared supply network without compromising their own competitive position. Insightful Quotes: "Only 1% of enterprise knowledge approximately exists inside the LLMs today. Companies don't want to give all of their data to the LLMs. Data providers don't want to give it for free either. That's why you need a specialized approach - leverage the power of the models on your own data set and on your knowledge graph." - Ilya Levtov "A financially vulnerable supplier becomes a target for adversarial capital - entities coming in from unfriendly nations looking to survive. You're connecting two different data sets, connecting entities, and getting to a very significant risk insight you need to act on before it becomes a problem for your enterprise." - Ilya Levtov "Organizations compete on their knowledge - knowledge of customers, knowledge of solutions, knowledge of supply chains, knowledge of routes to market. Those are competitive advantages. You do not want those inside an LLM. That is why doing this in a way that is internal and proprietary is so important." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why supply chain visibility is one of the most important and most underestimated applications of AI in the enterprise today - and what it actually takes to build intelligence at the scale the problem demands. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ilya-levtov/ \Website: https://www.craft.co Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #91
    May 26 · 26 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 91: Real-Time Voice Intelligence, Fraud Detection, and AI Guardrails with Mike Pappas

    Why Voice Is Not a Solved Problem - and What Real-Time Audio Intelligence Changes for Enterprise AI Guest: Mike Pappas, CEO at Modulate Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Mike Pappas, CEO of Modulate, whose work began in gaming - one of the most demanding environments for real-time voice intelligence - and has since expanded to enterprise applications including fraud detection, customer abuse prevention, AI agent guardrails, and sales coaching. They explore why transcription is not the same as understanding, what gets lost when audio is reduced to text, and why voice is the most powerful tool fraudsters have. Mike shares candid and specific insights on deepfake detection, the fine line between safety and surveillance, and what organizations need to put in place before deploying voice AI at scale. Key Takeaways: Transcribing voice and understanding voice are not the same thing - intonation, emotion, cadence, and timbre carry information that transcripts cannot capture. Voice AI demos are typically built for pristine environments; the real challenge is building systems that hold up under noise, jargon, and emotional complexity in production. Real-time intervention changes behavior more effectively than after-the-fact review - feedback delivered in the moment produces measurable reductions in repeat offenses. Voice is the most powerful tool for manipulation because it bypasses rational judgment by triggering emotional responses - and AI is now making voice fraud scalable. AI voice agents cannot introspect - they cannot tell when a call is going wrong, which is why a separate supervisory layer is essential for any enterprise voice deployment. The line between safety systems and surveillance systems is real; collecting and storing only what is necessary for the specific risk being addressed is both a privacy and a trust requirement. Before deploying any voice AI, organizations need to define their KPIs clearly - if the system is driving customer satisfaction down, the deployment is failing regardless of what else it is doing. Insightful Quotes: "When you hear a voice, you hear the intonation, you hear the emotion, you hear pregnant pauses - there is so much information being carried in that audio that gets lost when you pull down to a transcript. And whenever we talk to someone who professionally works in a contact center, they are always saying, we know these transcripts are losing tons of good value." - Mike Pappas "If I am actively harassing you and the platform is able to come in and put a stop to it live in the conversation, that feedback actually systematically changes behavior. Getting an email 30 minutes later saying we noticed you did something wrong - that just infuriates people, it does not lead to change." - Mike Pappas "There is a fine line between safety systems and surveillance systems. How do you design voice AI that improves safety and trust but does not cross that boundary that makes users and employees uncomfortable?" - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why real-time voice intelligence is one of the most consequential and least understood frontiers in enterprise AI - and what organizations need to get right before they deploy. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mike-pappas-9a30a858/ Website: https://www.modulate.ai Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #90
    May 26 · 31 min

    Earley AI Podcast – Episode 90: Federated AI, Decision Intelligence, and the Data Architecture Reset

    Why Centralization Is the Wrong Foundation for AI - and What Organizations Need to Build Instead Guest: Todd Barr, CEO at Axonis.ai Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: May 13, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Todd Barr, CEO of Axonis.ai, a company spun out of a government defense integrator that is bringing federated AI and decision intelligence to high-consequence enterprise workflows. They explore why the demo-to-production gap is one of the most costly misconceptions in enterprise AI today, why centralization was built for business intelligence and not for AI, and what it really means to send your AI to your data rather than the other way around. Todd shares a candid and direct perspective on decision artifacts, AI cost exposure, the risks of vendor lock-in, and why enterprises that give away how they make decisions may be giving away the most valuable thing they own. Key Takeaways: The demo-to-production gap is a form of malpractice - polished AI demos built on curated data create executive expectations that production reality cannot meet. Centralized data infrastructure was built for business intelligence, not AI - it is optimized for reporting, not reasoning or prediction. The premise of agentic AI is decentralization - if agents have to wait for data to be synced and centralized before acting, the architecture is working against itself. Data resists centralization for three distinct reasons: technical constraints, regulatory and compliance requirements, and organizational politics. Decision artifacts - cryptographically sealed records of data used, model applied, and reasoning followed - turn AI-assisted decisions into auditable, improvable corporate assets. Enterprises now face a clear choice: pay in tokens, pay in vendor lock-in, or invest in owning their own AI infrastructure through open source models. How an organization makes decisions is its most proprietary asset - giving that context to a third-party AI platform may be the most consequential thing enterprises are doing right now without fully understanding it. Insightful Quotes: "The misconception is really the gap between prototype and reality, and that's where a lot of these things are falling down right now. Getting people excited about something they can't have is almost malpractice." - Todd Barr "Centralization is almost a fallacy in itself. Whenever you are using data you are changing it, enriching it, doing something with it. It is a fractal nature of data that defies the whole concept of centralization." - Seth Earley "If I'm an enterprise, what do I own in this day and age? I own how I make decisions. Which data I use to make those decisions. If we are just going to give that away, that is like giving our brain away." - Todd Barr Tune in to discover why the most important AI infrastructure decision an enterprise can make right now is not which model to use - but whether they are building a foundation they actually own. Links LinkedIn: / tbarr Website: https://axonis.ai Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #89
    May 6 · 34 min

    Earley AI Podcast Episode 89: Memory, Power, and the Hidden Constraints of AI Infrastructure

    Guest: Steven Woo, Fellow and Distinguished Inventor at Rambus Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: May 5, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Steven Woo, Fellow and Distinguished Inventor at Rambus, where he has spent over 30 years at the frontier of memory technology. They explore why memory - not compute - is the binding constraint on AI performance today, how moving data between chips consumes more than half of all power in a high-end AI processor, and what the rise of agentic AI means for infrastructure planning. Steven shares a rare long-view perspective on the innovation curve for memory technology, the supply-demand dynamics driving prices higher, and the questions enterprise leaders should be asking before signing their next infrastructure contract. Key Takeaways: Memory, not compute, is the primary bottleneck limiting AI performance - and the gap between processor speed and memory speed is widening, not closing. Over 50 percent of the power consumed by high-end AI processors is spent simply moving data on and off the chip, not performing computation. Stacking memory components closer together can reduce energy costs dramatically but introduces new challenges around heat dissipation and power delivery. Training and inference have very different memory profiles - understanding both is essential for organizations architecting AI infrastructure at scale. Agentic AI compounds the memory challenge significantly, because one user can spin up multiple agents that each spawn further agents, multiplying context and capacity demands. Memory prices have risen sharply due to supply-demand imbalance - organizations are now signing long-term supply agreements to lock in capacity, just as they do for power. The most important question enterprise leaders can ask their infrastructure providers is how much experience and demonstrated reliability they have - downtime during model training can be catastrophic. Insightful Quotes: "Memory has become a big bottleneck. In many cases, in AI, your speed at which you can actually process information and create new large language models is really gated by the speed and availability of memory." - Steven Woo "More than 50 percent of the power is spent in circuits just trying to move data on and off the processor. It's pretty astounding to think that as companies plan how much power they need, a lot of it is really related to simply moving data back and forth." - Steven Woo "People think of compute in terms of gigawatts. But it turns out it's really the movement of that data - and nobody talks about that. It's the silhouette behind the curtain that's actually constraining everything else." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why the future of AI depends as much on memory engineering as it does on model development - and what enterprise leaders need to understand about the infrastructure constraints shaping every AI investment they make. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/stevencwoo/ Website: https://www.rambus.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #88
    April 27 · 48 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 88: Digital Twins, Agentic AI, and the Future of Work with David Shim

    From Meeting Intelligence to Personal AI: How Digital Twins Are Reshaping How We Work Guest: David Shim, Co-Founder and CEO at Read AI Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: April 27, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with David Shim, Co-Founder and CEO of Read AI, the fastest-growing meeting intelligence platform globally with over 5 million monthly active users. They explore how AI is moving beyond summarization toward recommendation and autonomous action, what it really means to build a digital twin grounded in your actual work history, and why the organizations getting the most from AI are the ones that treat it like a trainable intern rather than an out-of-the-box solution. David shares candid insights on agentic guardrails, data privacy, workforce transformation, and why access to personal AI may one day be considered a basic human right. Key Takeaways: AI is moving from task execution to recommendation - the next frontier is AI that proactively surfaces what you should do next. A digital twin is only as good as its context; weighting recent activity more heavily produces responses that actually reflect how you think and work today. Treating AI like a trainable intern - feeding it your emails, files, meetings, and tools - is what separates high-value users from disappointed ones. Native permissions are the cleanest foundation for digital twin privacy; building new rules for every edge case creates the vulnerabilities you are trying to avoid. Agentic guardrails should be built in from the start, not bolted on - autonomy without oversight erodes trust and adoption faster than it builds them. The tension between organizational IP and individual work style is real; your tone, voice, and preferences belong to you, even when the content belongs to the company. AI is a great leveler - emerging markets and individuals with access to these tools are already competing on equal footing with developed market counterparts. Insightful Quotes: "It's not plug and play today. You have to give it more context - your emails, your files, your CRM, your meetings. When you have all that data, now your intern is learning as you go, and it's pulling from your experience as the mentor." - David Shim "Your digital twin knows I hate meetings after three hours straight. After three hours, my engagement goes down, my sentiment goes down - so it puts in a buffer. That's the first part. Then it starts asking: what happens when people ask you a question?" - David Shim "You can't take the AI's version of the world as a representation of your version of the world. What's more valuable is your secret sauce, your knowledge, your expertise - you have to give it examples of your work, give it your perspective, not just take the LLM's." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover how digital twins and agentic AI are transforming the way individuals and organizations work - and what it takes to get real value from the technology before it gets ahead of you. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidshim/ Website: https://read.ai Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #87
    April 20 · 43 min

    Earley AI Podcast – Episode 87: AI-Enabled Enterprise Data Migration with Dominik Wittenbeck

    Why Knowledge, Not Technology, Is the Foundation of Successful AI-Driven Data Migration Guest: Dominik Wittenbeck, Group CTO at SNP Group Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: April 20, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Dominik Wittenbeck, Group CTO at SNP Group, a 1,600-person global software and solutions firm with 30 years of SAP-centric data migration expertise. They explore why AI is only as good as the institutional knowledge behind it, how agentic AI is transforming high-stakes enterprise migrations, and why organizations must treat data migration as a strategic opportunity rather than a cost-reduction exercise. Dominik shares hard-won insights on semantic architecture, governance, and what executives consistently get wrong when applying AI to critical enterprise processes. Key Takeaways: AI is not a silver bullet for data migration - it requires deep, domain-specific knowledge to produce deterministic, auditable results. Enterprise data migration is a team sport requiring cross-functional specialists; AI accelerates the work but cannot replace that expertise. The real opportunity in migration is not just moving data - it is cleaning it up and optimizing processes while the organization is already changing. Agentic AI is transforming the full migration lifecycle, from pre-sales solutioning and blueprint generation to rule creation and automated testing. Governance established once without ongoing enforcement decays quickly - organizations must build continuous oversight into critical processes from the start. Value mapping, not just structural mapping, is the dominant challenge in SAP migrations, and AI can significantly accelerate semantic alignment work. Executives should focus AI investments on problems that truly matter, not easy wins - meaningful impact comes from finding where differentiation really counts. Insightful Quotes: "In order to run complicated systems which have a critical impact on your business, they need enough grounding. You actually need to feed the knowledge into the agentic system that you're building on top of, in order to make sure that you get deterministic results in the end." - Dominik Wittenbeck "Rather than re-architecting the whole thing, try to identify what the critical processes really are, that if they are not exercised correctly, really hurt your business. Find where the value lies - or if you can't find that, find where your risk lies." - Dominik Wittenbeck "Sometimes cheap is quite costly, and sometimes slowing down speeds things up. If you're moving stuff from one system to another and you say, we'll clean it up later - that's never going to happen. It's like moving from one house to another with an attic full of boxes and junk." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover why successful AI-driven enterprise migration depends less on technology and more on institutional knowledge, governance, and treating transformation as a strategic opportunity. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dominik-wittenbeck-61a64669/ Website: https://www.snpgroup.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #86
    April 17 · 48 min

    Earley AI Podcast – Ep. 86: Open Source, Observability, and AI-Driven Engineering with Tom Wilkie

    How Grafana Labs Built a Competitive Edge Through Openness, Agentic AI, and Engineering Culture Guest: Tom Wilkie, VP of Product at Grafana Labs Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: April 17, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Tom Wilkie, VP of Product at Grafana Labs, a leading observability platform serving 25 million users across 50 global regions. They explore how Grafana's open source "big tent" philosophy creates unexpected competitive advantages in the AI era, why agentic AI is transforming how engineers respond to production incidents, and how the build-versus-buy debate is shifting with AI-assisted development. Tom shares candid insights on engineering culture, remote-first work, and why junior engineers may be more valuable than ever. Key Takeaways: Grafana Labs' open source strategy gave AI foundation models deep familiarity with their software, creating a powerful and unexpected competitive advantage. Agentic AI is transforming observability by automating root cause analysis of production incidents, reducing engineering response time significantly. Adaptive telemetry technology automatically identifies unused data, enabling organizations to cut observability costs dramatically without sacrificing coverage. The build-versus-buy debate is shifting, but the real hidden cost is long-term maintenance - not the initial development effort. Emergent engineering standards outperform top-down mandates; leaders consistently overestimate how much centralized consolidation is actually needed. Remote-first engineering works when companies deliberately engineer collaboration rather than relying on spontaneous hallway interactions that rarely happen anyway. AI-powered LLMs may solve the remote junior engineer onboarding problem by providing a low-ego, always-available resource for learning and guidance. Insightful Quotes: "By having 25 million users worldwide, they're out there blogging, publishing examples, tweeting, publishing videos - generating so much content on the open web about how to use Grafana. These foundation models are trained on that data. They know how to use our software better than proprietary competition." - Tom Wilkie "The cost of consolidation is often underestimated. And it's often dangerous to the culture, because as soon as you start telling engineers that have poured their heart and soul into this project to drop it - that's devastating to people." - Tom Wilkie "Openness - whether it's open source, open standards, open culture - is not just a philosophy. It really is a competitive strategy. It lowers switching costs, builds trust, and in the area of AI, it turns out to be the best way to make sure your models know how to use your technology." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover how Grafana Labs turned open source philosophy into a winning AI-era strategy - and what engineering leaders can learn about culture, observability, and building for the long term. Links LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/tomwilkie/ Website: https://grafana.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #85
    March 27 · 46 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 85: AI Security, Shadow IT, and the Governance Reset with Rob Lee

    Why Security Teams Are Being Asked to Do Three New Jobs - and What to Do About It Guest: Rob Lee, Chief AI Officer and Chief of Research at SANS Institute Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: March 27, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Rob Lee, Chief AI Officer and Chief of Research at SANS Institute, about why AI governance is broken in most organizations - and what it actually takes to fix it. They explore why security teams are being asked to simultaneously govern, adopt, and defend AI, why the default framework of no is driving shadow IT rather than preventing risk, and what a practical reset of AI governance actually looks like. Rob also shares why agents should be treated like workers rather than software, and why executives cannot afford to outsource their understanding of AI to anyone else. Key Takeaways: Security teams are now being asked to do three new jobs at once - evaluate AI tools for the organization, drive their own AI transformation, and manage governance and regulatory compliance. The default framework of no does not prevent AI use - it drives it underground, creating shadow IT that is far harder to monitor and control than sanctioned tools. Governance needs a stoplight model - green means experiment freely, yellow means involve security as a lifeguard, red means stop - with the default answer being yes unless there is a clear reason to say no. AI governance documents written before generative AI arrived are already outdated - most say nothing about agentic workflows, human-in-the-loop requirements, or connector permissions. Agents should be treated like workers, not software - they reason, improvise, and operate 24-7, which means they require the same zero-trust principles, oversight structures, and ethical guardrails as human employees. Executives cannot outsource their understanding of AI to security teams - AI literacy at the C-suite level is a competitive requirement, not an optional capability. Good governance is not about documenting every possible bad outcome - it is about establishing overarching goals and building a culture of trust with enough guardrails to prevent the truly stupid risks. Insightful Quotes: "The framework security teams are using is a framework of no. And that framework of no is causing people to use AI secretly, regardless of what the security team says." - Rob Lee "An agent in the future - and some organizations are already treating it this way - is a worker. Everything you ask about governing agents, replace that with a human who just got hired. The same rules apply." - Rob Lee "You can't automate what you don't understand - and with agents, the stakes are even higher. An agentic mistake isn't a wrong paragraph, it's a blocked critical system." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover how security and executive leaders can move from a governance posture of restriction to one that enables innovation, manages real risk, and keeps organizations competitive in the age of agentic AI. Links: LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leerob/ Website: https://www.sans.org Sponsor: Vector - https://www.vktr.com/ Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #84
    March 20 · 27 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 84: AI in Legal Operations with Mike Anderson

    Accuracy, Trust, and the Interface Revolution: How AI is Transforming Legal Workflows Guest: Mike Anderson, Chief Product Officer, Filevine Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: March 20, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Mike Anderson, Chief Product Officer at Filevine, about what it takes to bring AI into one of the most demanding and high-stakes environments in the enterprise - legal operations. They explore why AI will not replace attorneys but will dramatically extend what legal professionals can accomplish, how real-time deposition analysis is transforming courtroom preparation, and why information architecture remains the critical foundation beneath every AI capability. Mike also shares why the interface - not the model - is the biggest unlock AI offers the legal industry. Key Takeaways: AI will not replace attorneys or paralegals - legal services are already severely undersupplied, and AI's role is to extend what existing professionals can accomplish. The billable hour model is evolving, but the bigger opportunity is eliminating non-billable administrative burden so attorneys can focus on higher-order legal thinking. Real-time deposition analysis - live transcription cross-referenced against case files - is one of the most powerful and practical AI applications in legal today. Boolean search cannot be replaced in legal because accountability for document populations requires transparent, auditable logic that external parties can evaluate. Effective AI in legal requires three information retrieval lenses: semantic search, Boolean search, and attribute-based filtering - all three are necessary. Information architecture - defining the is-ness and about-ness of legal objects like matters, contracts, depositions, and clients - remains the foundation for AI to work accurately. The interface is the single biggest unlock AI offers legal professionals - the ability to ask a question in natural language rather than navigate complex click paths changes everything. Insightful Quotes: "The demand for legal services already outpaces supply, and it has for some time. We should be talking about the productivity and extensibility of legal professionals - not obsolescence." - Mike Anderson "If only I had this analysis of the deposition during the deposition. That one customer comment kicked off an entire depositions platform for us." - Mike Anderson "You still need the is-ness and about-ness. The interface changes, but the underlying information architecture is still what makes AI work correctly." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover how legal teams are moving past AI skepticism and building the foundations that make AI accurate, trustworthy, and transformative in practice. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/michael-anderson-374299163/ Website: https://www.filevine.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #83
    March 9 · 40 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 83: AI, Governance, and the Execution Gap with Brian Stafford

    From Vision to Value: How Leaders Can Close the Gap Between AI Ambition and Operational Reality Guest: Brian Stafford, CEO at Diligent Host: Seth Earley, CEO at Earley Information Science Published on: March 9, 2026 In this episode, Seth Earley speaks with Brian Stafford, CEO of Diligent, a $700 million global software and AI company focused on governance, risk, and compliance. They explore why most organizations understand that AI is transformative but still struggle with the how of actually getting there, and what it takes to move beyond pilots into real operational change. Brian shares how Diligent is helping clients in compliance, audit, and risk functions do more with less through AI-wired software and agents, and why context, leadership, and process understanding are the real drivers of successful AI transformation. Key Takeaways: Most organizations have crossed from asking what AI can do to struggling with how to actually execute and drive measurable transformation. Calling initiatives pilots gives organizations an excuse to fail - framing AI as transformation from the start changes accountability and outcomes. AI maturity is less about sector or company size and more about the quality and commitment of executive leadership driving change. Compliance, risk, and audit functions face a structural mandate - increasing obligations with flat or shrinking budgets - making AI adoption a necessity, not a choice. Agents should be thought of like a smart new associate - trained gradually, checked in with frequently at first, then trusted to operate with more autonomy over time. Context is the key differentiator for AI solutions - partners who already understand your domain, regulatory environment, and workflows will deliver faster, better outcomes. AI-native employees who are intellectually curious and fluent in modern tools can deliver 5 to 10 times the output of peers who resist adopting new capabilities. Insightful Quotes: "I hate the term pilot. Pilot gives organizations the license to call something unsuccessful. You're not piloting a transformation - you're either driving it or you're not." - Brian Stafford "Most of our clients don't care if I ever said the word agent. They care about an outcome. The technology is just what helps deliver it." - Brian Stafford "You can't automate what you don't understand. And once you do understand it, agents change everything - but the process clarity has to come first." - Seth Earley Tune in to discover how forward-thinking leaders are closing the gap between AI ambition and real operational impact across governance, risk, and compliance functions. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/brian-k-stafford/ Website: https://www.diligent.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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  • #82
    February 26 · 45 min

    Earley AI Podcast - Episode 82: Data as the Fourth Pillar: Aligning AI Strategy with Real Business Outcomes

    This episode welcomes Sujay Dutta and Siddharth Ragagopal, co-authors of Data as the Fourth Pillar. With extensive experience guiding global organizations on aligning data strategy with real-world business outcomes, Sujay (based in Stockholm) and Siddharth (based in the Netherlands) offer deep insights into AI adoption, data governance, and scaling artificial intelligence responsibly. Hosted by Seth Earley, the conversation explores how businesses can move beyond AI experimentation and develop a mature, impactful data strategy. Key Takeaways: AI Is More Than Technology: AI impacts people, processes, and data—not just IT. Leaders must approach AI holistically. Not Every Problem Needs AI: Business leaders should carefully evaluate which challenges truly require AI solutions, and distinguish between traditional AI and generative AI use cases. Overcoming Pilot Mode: Successful organizations plan experimentation as part of a longer maturity journey, connecting short-term MVPs to strategic goals. The Supply and Demand Gap: Bridging business needs (demand) and technical capabilities (supply) is essential for effective AI integration. Stages of AI Maturity: The episode introduces a three-stage maturity model—Foundational, Scaled, and Automated—and explains how organizations can assess their position. Data Quality Is Contextual: Data quality requirements should be based on the needs of specific use cases, recognizing dimensions like completeness, timeliness, and relevance. Human Factor Is Crucial: Organizational structure, culture, and incentive models must support AI adoption. Preparing people for AI is as important as preparing AI for people. Cross-functional Collaboration: Embedding AI and data practices into broader business strategy, and fostering collaboration between business and IT teams, helps avoid siloed efforts. Next AI Opportunities: Productivity gains are just the beginning; capturing tacit knowledge and reimagining business processes will drive greater value in coming years. Featured Quote from the Show: "One of the key challenges with AI is not about AI being ready for people, but are people ready for AI? ... Ultimately it will land upon the people of the enterprise. How the leaders are clarifying that incentive model to each individual." — Sujay Dutta Tune in to learn how to build a solid data foundation, avoid common AI pitfalls, and prepare your organization—and your people—for the future of intelligent business. Links LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sujaydutta LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sidd-rajagopal/ Website: https://datathefourthpillar.com Thanks to our sponsors: VKTR Earley Information Science AI Powered Enterprise Book

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